The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 01/13/2021 - HOUR 2 - NFL, Harden

Episode Date: January 13, 2021

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So there's seven job openings in the NFL. Philadelphia Chargers, Jets, Jets, Houston, Lions, Atlanta. And there's about 15. This morning we got to about 13, 14, 14, 15 candidates. I won't waste your time with all of them. But there's some good, some not as good. And I thought, you know, let's play. I'm not making a prediction here.

I'm not being an NFL insider here. I'm just telling you, what do I think, fits the best. The city, the owner, the coach, his strengths, his liabilities. Again, this is not a prediction. This is Collins coaching carousel. These are the guys that I think fit the current NFL openings. Now, this is not college football where there's 160 Division 1 jobs or 130. There's 32 of these babies, and they're all good. If you get the right quarterback, they're all great lifetime. The NFL pension for coaches is amazing. It pays great. You're getting coaches now making $9, $10, $12 a year in the NFL.

Urban Meyer reportedly could make $12. Joy, here we go. All right, let's start with the Los Angeles Chargers. All right, I think it's the best job. So let's go get the best candidate, Brian Daibald. He's the Buffalo Bills offensive coordinator. Here's why it works. He worked under Sabin. He worked under Belichick.

He's had hard driving people above him. We know he can play well with others. He was successful at both. The other thing is we've seen the development of Josh Allen. Well, Justin Herbert doesn't need the development. So he's inheriting a guy that looks like Josh Allen without his coaching. So to what level can they take that? He also went to the same high school as the Chargers general manager Tom Telesco.

So they know each other. Anthony Linolko also came from Buffalo. So these organizations work well together. Brian Daybell Chargers, to me, is the fit. All right, the Jacksonville Jaguars. I would say Urban Meyer, they need a shot of relevance. he's it. Listen, it's an apathetic market. It's a college market, and he's a college icon. Cap space, draft picks. They don't have a general manager, and he's going to want some say in

personnel. He probably needs somebody to know the cap, not the players. He has a house in Florida. He previously called Trevor Lawrence, the best college quarterback he's ever seen, and this feels like a fit to me. He's going to have the power. He wants power. He is a culture changer. This franchise needs a cultural change, not just a play caller. Urban Myers the best fit. The New York Jets. Despite my staff's misgiving, Jason Garrett,

a very highly functional man, a little boring, but a highly functional man in a highly dysfunctional organization. He went to Princeton, Columbia. He grew up in New Jersey. He just spent the year in New York. He gets the media. He's got an Eli Manning, Derek,

Jeter quality. He talks but says nothing. That's true. So he never creates fires. He just puts them out. The Cowboys had the number six scoring offense when he was there. He had a winning record, but what I really like about it, he is a teacher. He is not a hype master. He's the opposite of Rex Ryan, who burned really hot in New York for about three years and then was sort of an eye roll. He's a grown man, Ivy League educated, played in the league, and whether they stay with Sam Donald or go to Justin Fields, both have consistency issues. I think he can shore that up Jason Garrett Jets. Atlanta Falcons.

To meet Arthur Smith works. First of all, he has a house in Nashville, Southern guy, his dad, of course, the founder of FedEx in Memphis, knows the South. The Falcons are the team in the South. And by the way, Matt Ryan's there for the next two, three years anyway. So this is a guy that makes quarterbacks better. Look what he did with Ryan Tannihill. The other thing is he runs a similar offense to cut.

Kyle Shanahan. Matt Ryan knows the offense and flourished under the offense. I think he wants to stay this, you know, that's out of the Mississippi. I think he has family there. In fact, I kind of know somebody in his family. I think this is a perfect fit. And by the way, it's nothing against Rahim Morris. But can we give Matt Ryan an offensive head coach for a change? He's had a couple. He's had Dan Quinn. He's had Mike Smith. I think it's time to give Matt Ryan, who you're going to be stuck with for a couple years. And there's worse guys to be stuck with. But I think he deserves an offensive head coach. The Detroit Lions.

I'm going to go with Robert Sala. I don't think it's a great job. He has a history in Michigan. First of all, their defense is terrible. And so they hire a defensive guy who knows defensive personnel. He is a motivator. I think he has a chance to be a culture changer. He's a big personality, good-looking, big energy guy.

This is not an organization that just needs a play caller. They need somebody to shake stuff up, walk into a room. He's a man's man, very alpha. And the Lions, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, He began his coaching career in Michigan, so he's got history there. He's close friends with Matt Lafleur, the Packers head coach. So I'm sure they've been talking for years about the division. It feels like a good fit.

It's not a great job, but it feels like a good fit. Houston Texans. Eric Bienemy seems obvious. First, Deshaun Watson, Watson. He wants him. Secondly, this is an organization where he's apparently not going to have, the coach is not going to have a ton of power. But what you're looking for is a bit of a play caller. I don't need a GM here.

That's not what BNME does. He dials up plays. And when Deshawn Watson, I think offensively, the Houston Texans led the NFL in yards per play. They've got a Kansas City field to them. They've got a star quarterback. They have good offensive line, at least on the left side. And the feeling is you're not going to have power there as a coach.

But can you have a working relationship with your star player and elevate him? And I think he can't. Remember, you just brought a Patriots guy down. So you're not going to have say in personnel. And by the way, Bienemy doesn't want that. Bienemy also worked with Patrick Mahomes, a young quarterback who likes to play sometimes off script, and Bienemy is a former player who can handle the ego of a player, handle the independence of a star quarterback.

I think he works. Finally, the Philadelphia Eagles. I'm going to go with a wild card. I'm going to say 31-year-old Joe Brady. Now, he feels young, but so did Sean McVeigh. Here's what I would say. You're going to get no personnel say here. True.

Joe Brady's fine with that. Urban wouldn't be. Doug Peterson wasn't. There's a lot of coaches that want personnel say. You're not going to get it in Philly. And this is what Joe Brady is. By the way, Sean McVeigh, we never hear about him wanting personnel say with less need. He's a coach.

Brady's a coach. The other thing is they're really bad at wide receiver and they have a quarterback controversy. His strength is quarterback wide receiver symmetry. That's what he does well. Right now, the Eagles need to draft quarterbacks, wide receivers better. They were last in the NFL, lowest graded wide receiver group. And I know people freak out he's young. But Joe Judge is pretty young, and Sean McVeigh is pretty young.

Lincoln Riley's up for jobs. He's really young. Remember, we always say this. My son's much smarter than I was at 14. 31 is kind of the new 39 or 41 and I think he works he doesn't bring the ego and the cachet of other

coaches and I think right now that team just needs somebody that can fix the offensive side of the ball because they got two stars on defense they got fix the quarterback fix the receivers so there he go those are my NFL fit these are not predictions by the way

I'm just playing matchmaker it's really strong you might have a future in that not terrible I think that was pretty good, to be honest. Philadelphia is the wild card. I just thought to myself. Well, no, it makes sense because he is young.

You're not going to come in with the same cachet as a coach who has either been a head coach before or has been working through the coaching ranks for a very long time to get this opportunity and wants more say. It makes sense because you're right. You're not going to get any control there. No. So you have to be completely cool with it. And the coolest guys, young people getting an opportunity, Sean McVeigh, Sean McVeyas never once pushback on personnel.

We've never even heard that story. Sean wants to coach. He wins a Super Bowl. Maybe he wants more save, but he hasn't gotten there yet. So, okay, so James Hardin, situation's interesting. I've always, I didn't like Hardin when he came in the league initially. I think he's kind of a one-trick pony. I do think he moved his game a little to try to be a little better defensive player.

But it is remarkable. Last night, he's gone for about four. five, six games. He's not in shape. He's dogging it. He's not putting up the numbers. And last night, it came to an end after their blowout loss to the Lakers. He finally admitted, I'm out of here. Which is not good enough. You know, we just, we don't, we don't, obviously chemistry, talent-wise. It's just everything. And it was clear.

Like I said, these last few games. I love this city. I literally, you know, I've done everything that I can. you know, I mean, this situation is crazy. You know, it's something that I don't think can be fixed. So, yeah, thanks. Okay, this is not in Houston a Deshawn Watson situation where you've got like this weird cult-like sensibility. They've made really bad trades.

The roster is uneven. You let go of a star. No, no, no, no. That's not the Rockets. The Rockets had the 65 wins and 17 losses just three years ago. Their roster was stacked. James Hardin, Chris Paul, Clint Capella, P.J. Tucker, Trevor Arisa, Eric Gordon, Gerald Green, with a guard-friendly head coach.

James Hardin had a perfect NBA coach and back court for him. Chris Paul's the guy that wants to defend. Clint Capella wants to defend. Trevor Arisa wants to defend. PJ Tucker wants to defend. Eric Gordon will defend. You didn't even have to defend much. This is not Deshawn Watson.

Deshawn Watson's unhappy because weird stuff is going on. They built him the palace to win. And he can't work with anybody. Nobody's ever called him out. Like, I'll say it again. James wants a title, but doesn't want to put the work in for the title. Whenever you win in the NBA, you got to sacrifice something. Kevin Durant goes to the Warriors, you sacrifice shots.

LeBron goes to Miami. It's his city, not really yours. You got to sacrifice something. James, what are you giving up? Because you want a title, what are you giving up? Because LeBron has had to give things up. He gave up money in Miami. he went to, by the way, he gave up a roster and went to a,

a free agent deathbed in Cleveland, then a dysfunctional Laker franchise. You think LeBron's going to the best place? No, he's not. LeBron's got Miami was good. Okay, I'll give you that. But Cleveland and the Lakers, LeBron sacrificed things. He didn't go to the best roster in L.A. He didn't go to the best roster in Cleveland.

So what are you willing to give up, James? Because I've seen Steph Curry sacrifice shots and money. I've seen Kevin Durant sacrifice money. I've seen LeBron sacrifice money and functional franchises. They did everything for him. Everything for him. They built the palace and he's not willing to give up the ball or give up the attitude. This is on James, not everybody else.

Warren Moon, Chris Broussard, Brian Billick, we got a lot of stuff today. There's stories developing. The Urban Meyer thing may break before the end of the show. Want more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.

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Warren Moon's in the Hall of Fame and the Canadian Hall of Fame. He's their greatest player as well ever. I grew up watching him at the University of Washington. 17 years. He played as he got up there around 40, nine of them a pro bowler, and he is now joining us, the Pro Football Hall of Fame or Warren Moon. So it's interesting. I'm not generally more than a huge fan of quarterbacks demanding a trade,

but I do think Houston has shown an inability to function and even an average level for the last couple of years. And you do get to a point where, listen, pro athletes got about 10 years to hit it. He's had two ACL surgeries. He may be halfway home. Were you ever in an organization where you felt you just didn't have support? I got to get out of here because that's kind of what I feel with Deshaun right now. You know, I felt that way when I first went to Houston after they fired Hugh Campbell, who was my Canadian Football League coach and they hired him as the coach in Houston. They got rid of him after a year and a half. And I just felt like there wasn't enough time for him to turn things around because we took over a pretty bad franchise at

that time. But they eventually got things turned around and we became a pretty good football team. But yeah, you have those days where you don't know if you're going to get the support that you need moving forward so you can be a successful football team. And I'm sure that's what Deshaun feels right now as he's had a couple of good years there winning the division. But this year, they just didn't put out a very good product on the football field in Houston. And he had legitimately some MVP numbers this year. You know, he threw for 33 touchdowns, over 4,800 yards, 70% completion. But you'd never know it because they didn't win any football games.

So I'm sure he's a little bit soured about that and the fact that they just haven't put a very competitive football team on the field. And he wants to know what they're going to do going forward as they need to, now they feel the general matter. role, but they also need to feel this coach's role. They're the opposite of the Miami Dolphins. Miami did everything right but struggled at quarterback. Houston does nothing right except the quarterback. So let's shift to Miami where there are a story today in Miami where three players told the Miami Herald, they don't see anything special with Tua.

And with Josh Allen in their division and Belichick in their division and maybe soon Justin Fields in their division, Tua doesn't feel like it's a, there's a lot special. there. So you tell me, is it too soon? Or with all the coaching, kids get now at 13, 14, 15, 16 years old, do we have to be more demanding your first 10 games as a pro? You know, they do expect a lot more out of you as a high round draft pick, especially as a quarterback. But I think in two a situation, he deserves a little bit more time because, one, this is a guy who most people didn't think maybe would ever play again. Now all of a sudden he comes into this. season, people didn't think he would play at all this year, if at any, at the end of the season.

So they put him on the field pretty early. And he has some success early, but he's still a rookie. And I think he still deserves a chance to go out there and show what he can do, fully healthy, not coming off of an injury and having an offense that's more catered to what his abilities are. I don't know if that offense was catered to what his strengths are into this season. But I think with the new offensive coordinator, whoever they hire, that should be a guy who can take advantage of what his strengths are, and then we'll be able to see who the

true tour he is. So it's interesting. Kansas City made a very interesting decision. They didn't play Warren particularly well in December. They were rusty. And then they gave Mahomes week 17 off. And with a buy. So here comes Cleveland.

Cleveland's feeling themselves. They're playing every week. They got momentum. So I want you to go to your career. You would think, you know, Mahalms, Warren Moon, you never lose confidence. But I sit there and I think 20 days, that's a long time not to play. Are you a little worried about rust and trouble for the Chiefs? You know, I do worry about that with most teams because that is a long time to be off.

And as a football player, you want to get into a rhythm and you kind of want to stay in that rhythm. And I even remember when I was with the Oilers my last year, we want to. 11 games in a row. And then we had the overall best record. So we had to buy that first weekend. And we stood around for two weeks waiting to play. And we were a little bit stale when we came in against the Kansas City Chiefs in Joe Montana. And they had already had a game and they were in a rhythm. So I think it does play a part depending on how well you manage that time when you

are off. But three weeks is a long time. And you do worry about rust. You do worry about a team not being sharp when they first come out. And you don't want to let an underdog on the road get ahead in a game like that because that's going to make it that much tougher to beat them if you come out a little bit stagnant offensively or defensively. So, yeah, that's the only thing that worries me about the Chiefs. The good thing is that they're rested. They're pretty healthy. And Andy Reid has a great record coming off of by, so I think he knows how to handle his football team. But it does bother me a little bit. Yeah, that is a long time for anybody to be off from playing football.

So we're both. We have a history in the Pacific Northwest, and the Seahawks just were an enigma wrapped in a riddle. They got healthier at the end of the year offensively, and somehow got significantly worse. They fired their offensive coordinator yesterday. It looks like a power struggle that one of them wanted to run. Maybe one didn't.

I don't know if Pete Carolyn Russ are the perfect combination. I think Pete likes defense and running games to win, and Russell wants to get out on the edge. and do amazing things, but how do you explain the erosion of Seattle's offense post- Thanksgiving? Well, I think a lot of it has to do with what they said they fired Brian Schadenheimer about philosophical differences. I think, like you said, Pete wants to run the football. He wants to be a little bit more balanced than what the Seahawks were at the beginning of the season, even though they were throwing the ball all over the place.

but they were winning football games, but you just knew that somewhere along the line that was going to slow down. It always does. Every team starts out the season, throwing the football all over the place, and it's somewhere during the season, maybe fifth, sixth game into the season,

you settle down into the season and people kind of figure out who you are, how to stop you and stop the best things that you do. And now you've got to become what your bread and butter is. And they didn't really have a bread and butter after that. They wanted to be more of a running foot. football team, but their running backs tended to be nicked up. And they didn't have that one bell cow that they could just really rely on

weekend and week out like they did when they had Marshawn Lynch. So if they want to become a more balanced football team going forward, they need to find out who that bill cow is going to be, that they can rely on each and every week that's going to give them somewhere between, you know, 80 and 110 yards a weekend and then have a passing game that complements that. But they didn't have that this year. Finally, Warren Moon joining us. you played until, how old were you?

43? How old were you? 44. Oh, my Lord. I thought Ben, I thought Philip Rivers played well. Breeze and Brady looked good. I thought Ben looked old. I thought he looked tired. It just, it's not there.

I thought in his last seven, eight games, he had one great half. That was against the Colts in the second half, where I really felt something happened at halftime. Maybe it was a Red Bull. He had a lot of juice. But he looked old this year at the end. when did you know I'm done

like was it practice your legs when did you know it was off-season training for me I just didn't want to train and get myself back in that type of shape because as you get older you have to put more time in to get yourself ready to play and that's when I knew I didn't want to play anymore when I didn't have that

same desire to go out there and you know and run the bleachers and you know run run 200 yard dashes and all the different things that I did to get myself ready to play all the weight training and that. So I knew I had had enough. And I don't know if Ben is at that stage right now, but he did look tired towards the end of the season. And you can't expect a guy who was coming off of a major injury like he had with his arm last year to throw the football 68 times in a

playoff game and expect to win. So the Pittsburgh Steelers have to figure out how they can become more of a balanced team next year and be more of that power and physical running team that they've always been known for in the past. They've got to get back. back to that so they can protect whoever their quarterback is from not having to throw the football that many times to stay in a football game. Yeah. What's the most you ever throw through the ball in a game? What was the most attempts?

I think I threw it 61 times once against the Dallas Cowboys, but we won that football game. Did you have to ice your arm, or was that – I mean, does it feel different? No, it didn't feel any different. If anything, I love throwing it, but I like throwing it when you want to throw it, not when you have to throw it. That makes a lot of sense. A lot of sense. Hall of Fame or Warren, Moon, friend of the show.

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Well, the Eagles fired Doug Peterson on Monday and have already contacted a potential replacement. Philadelphia reportedly reached out to Oklahoma head coach Lincoln Riley to gauge his interest in the job. Riley's been at Oklahoma since 2017 with a record of 45 and 8, and he coached Jalen Hertz during his one season as a sooner. And obviously, Jalen was pretty successful there with his time with him and finished second. into Joe Burrow and the Heisman voting in 2019. He can do a lot very quickly. He turns guys, you know, like Parcells and Urban Turnaround Teams. He can take a quarterback.

Remember Jalen Hertz was a little bit of a reclamation project. He takes a quarterback. Spring practice, fall practice, Heisman level. He's incredible as a coach. If he's going to make the jump to the NFL ranks, I don't necessarily know this would be the time to do it. That's right. This is the position that you're looking at.

Philadelphia is a disaster. More and more, the information that we get from what actually went down over this past year in Philadelphia, it's terrifying if you want to go in there and have any level of success. Here's the good news. Oklahoma is a top five college job. No, he has no reason to leave there. Yeah. Outside of Texas, you line up every game with better players.

In the SEC, you can be Alabama. you still have to deal with Florida, Georgia. They got real NFL, LSU. Two years ago, LSU had better players than Alabama. Oklahoma faces one team on their schedule every year that is close to having their level of players. No, he can have a really nice legacy there and continue on doing that for as long as he wants to

and make the jump to the NFL pretty much at any moment. That's what he's built is in his reputation there. The situation in Philly, to your point, you have to bring a young guy in or somebody who has been waiting for an opportunity, to be a head coach for a very long time who's not going to want control. I don't know why this happens, but we see it all the time in organizations, generally organizations that haven't done a lot of winning before,

where you win a Super Bowl and then all of a sudden it becomes a scramble for the credit, which is always one of my mind because no one person made this happen. And if you're not actually on the field, you really don't deserve that much credit anyway. Right. Because you didn't do it. Right. You physically did not make this happen. Plenty of credit to go around, but then the next year comes around, someone pushes for a little more power.

Yeah. Who probably doesn't need it. That's guys. And then there's a little more struggle over this side, even though they don't really know what they're talking about. Guys. And then it just snowballs into this power war. And the reality is the way that you won was everybody did what they do to the best of their ability without egos. Organizations that are consistently good to great.

Have a hierarchy. Have a hierarchy. And they stick to that. It's not about, oh, I get the credit for this. No, my credit rolls into your credit and we are a team. That's not the way guys work. The Ravens, Eric DeCosta, well, Ozzie Newsom when he was doing it. The Steelers, despite what happened that disaster, they are consistently a good team.

Joy, we're men. We want power. I'm going to stop trying to understand the male ego. All I'm saying is, this is not how it works. What worked for you? Why are you changing what clearly works? You're stealing my wife's copy. You literally take what you.

she says and bring it to my show. We're brilliant women. This is what we do. We're born in the same day. I don't get a break between you and Anne. I hear the same messaging. You're very lucky. You are surrounded by brilliance at all moments. So the bears announced that they will keep head coach Matt and Aggie and GM Ryan Pace for the 2021 season, which I think is the right thing to do. However, they will not receive contract extensions, which is not my favorite. I will say this. I don't have to love something. Like Ryan Pace, I have questions about. But if I think it's the better thing to do, like, I don't have to love every decision a team makes. Sure.

But I think stability is the winner here. I still have major issues with Ryan Pace. But to his credit, he's built a hell of a defense. So what you and I don't have to love a decision, but sometimes it's the best option currently available going forward is okay. The only thing I don't like about people that are coaching or working on a final year of their contract with that. an extension is they tend to make decisions for now instead of for the future. So even a tiny extension since sometimes gives someone a little more flexibility and stability in those positions and then they make better macro decisions.

And sometimes that's what you need. Like if you're coaching to try and keep your job right now or you're in GM and you're just trying to keep your job right now, you're going to make immediate decisions. That's fair. That may affect the future. Yeah, no. So Nagy has two years remaining on his deal. Paces expires after this season.

but they're also losing Chuck Bagano, who has decided to retire after two years with the Bears. That's a major loss. Yeah, Chuck's a very good defensive coach. Yes. I didn't love him as a head coach, but I thought he was a very good defensive coach. Their defense was fourth in the league and points allowed per game and eighth in the league and yards allowed per game this year. They take a little step back, but that's a really good defense that he built there that they have

in Chicago. They need a quarterback and they need to get everybody healthy. You know, he's got a house up in Idaho. what I would do, the Boise State's got a new football coach. I'd have Pagano stop by twice a week, like Marvin Lewis did at Arizona State. Twice a week, come coach my coaches over at Boise State. That's what you do with these NFL guys. They got a lake house up in Idaho.

Just cut him a little consulting check. Just say here, pay $150 a year. Come twice a week to practice. Just talk to our players about the NFL. That's what Marvin Lewis did in Arizona State. Coach my coaches. Because I'm a head coach. I can't.

That's where, if I're NFL guys, just watch our practice. just kind of sit around. Marvin Lewis, Arizona State, just kind of hovered around the practice. And it's like, that young coach here, it's like head coach has got a recruit NCAA, he's got a chance for to deal with.

I thought Herm Edwards was brilliant. Just, I want to bring Marvin, I'll give you free golf at the local golf course and a small salary. Watch my coach's coach. Finally, Kyrie Irving has already missed four straight games for personal reasons. He reportedly won't be back with the Nets

anytime soon and is expected to tonight and Saturday's game as well. The NBA is also reviewing a video where Kyrie was at a family member's birthday party without wearing a mask. Then last night he was spotting attending a virtual event for the Manhattan District Attorney candidate while the Nets were about to start playing. We're showing some of the video that the NBA is investigating to see if this was recent. Yeah, I don't know what to say about Kyrie anymore.

Gotta be honest with you. I don't, I can't relate to this. Yeah. I think in the beginning, you know, anytime you hear personal. reasons. Everyone's a little cautious. You don't want to say too much. If it turns out it's something that they're dealing with, it's very serious. Right.

You know, you get a little bit of grace that, okay, you didn't contact this coach, but maybe it's just like too dramatic to have gotten to that point yet, and they'll sort it out. It's pretty clear at this point that that's not the case. I know everyone like immediately rushes to mental health and all these other situations.

I don't know about that stuff. I don't have any opinion on that. Nobody wants to speculate on that. Yeah, that's bad. But you like to Nick Wright's point earlier, and to really where everybody has landed with Kyrie at this point, you have to go to work. And if you're not going to go to work, you have to communicate why you're not at work.

And that's the key. You've got to give us a heads up on this. I can't disappear from Fox for a week. If I did and said, I need a break. Yeah. But you got to call people. You got to give them a heads up. But yeah, you have to call and say, I need a break.

And then that's it. Like you're an adult, you're responsible. You're there. You're every single day. You're on time. You will get the grace. period, let's take the time, whatever you need to sort it out. But this is just, this is spiraling very quickly. And unfortunately for Kyrie, because he's built the reputation that he has, a lot of

people aren't surprised. And this is an opportunity for people to come at him. But you're creating the situation. Yeah. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Live News. Chris Brouss are will answer some of these questions. He's tied in. He's neck. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHard Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.

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It's not waste any time. Let's go to him live. He's on the East Coast. He's our Fox Sports NBA analyst. Chris Broussard is now joining me live, a crisis with Kyrie Irving and the Brooklyn Nets. Let me start with this. Everybody's walking on eggshells. I don't know what it is.

But let me just ask you a pointed question. Does Kyrie want to play pro basketball anymore? Look, Colin, I think that's the main question. That's what this boils down to. The evidence would tell you no. It looks like Kyrie. Irving no longer wants to be a professional basketball player and all that comes with being a pro. I was told Colin a few years ago, I think it was a few months before he and KD went to Brooklyn

by a couple of executives. We're just talking and they told me, they said, don't be surprised if Kyrie Irving just shocks the world one day and decides to retire out of the blue. Now they were speculating, but they were doing it based on his personality. and the moves he's made in the NBA. Then in 2017, he was on the road trip and podcast with Channing Frye, his former teammate, and Kyrie said that one of his best friends has told him he will be the Lauren Hill of basketball, meaning he'll retire before he's through with his prime. And then in June, about six weeks before they go into the bubble,

remember what he said on this big call with all the other players, over 100 players. He said, I'm willing to give up everything for social justice and social reform. So I really think that Kyrie Irving, it seems like he no longer wants to be a professional basketball player. What the Nets have to do is get to the bottom of this as soon as possible. I'm sitting him down, talking to him on Zoom, whatever it takes. And I'm asking him that question pointedly. Obviously, if he says, no, he's going to retire.

But if he says, yes, I still want to. to be a pro player. I'm taking that. And then as soon as I'm done talking with him, I'm on the phone calling teams trying to trade him. Because you can't, I'm sorry, as great as he is, I can't trust him. I don't, is this going to happen again?

I can't trust him as my leader. Kevin Durant, does it look like this morning he made a massive mistake leading a more selfless star in Steph Curry? What KD did, and he would deny it, I believe, is that he let all of the talk. He let the narrative get to him. And that's one thing he didn't do when he went to Golden State.

Remember, he didn't care about what people said. People were going to rip him for going to the Warriors, the 73-win team. He didn't care. He did what he wanted to do. I think, my opinion, is that he let all the talk about, oh, they were cheap championships.

There's an asterisk there. Anybody could have won those rings. And I was in that boat, too. I believe those. he was great but you know that team was stacked without him uh i think he let that get to him and want to go somewhere else where it was his team and prove that he could win rings on his own again i think he'd deny it but i think that's the case and here's the thing colin k d as great as he is he is not a leader he's a follower and he picked the wrong guy to follow

he's five kate kairie's the leader of that team you watch him on the court kairie's more vocal Kyrie's got the ball in his hands. Kyrie's determining who gets the last shots. You can tell. And he's the leader, but KD picked the wrong guy to follow. James Harden. I actually think it works in Philadelphia. Ben Simmons trade.

It kind of feels like it works. What is your gut feeling we see in the next, well, before the trade deadline with James Hardin? Well, you've got to trade him. I mean, it can't drag out that long anymore. I thought it could because I thought Hardin would have enough pride to go out and play at this best even though he wants out of Houston. I thought he wanted to get his 30 points a game. I thought he wanted to still be, you know, play like one of the best players in the

world. But he's tanked. I was wrong. He's out there playing at half speed and not being himself. So they have to trade him as soon as possible so they don't poison the locker room with his attitude and his apathy. There's reports coming out now that their last, they're talking now with Brooklyn and Philadelphia.

I'm with you. If I'm Philadelphia. See, Philly, don't play the long game. First of all, who knows how long Joe L.NB is going to be healthy and playing at this level. Okay? Trade Ben Simmons for James Hardin right now. Yeah. When you have a chance to win a championship in the NBA, you can't wait.

You can't talk about the future. Go for it now. So they need to make that move. If I'm Brooklyn, now I don't think Houston would do this, but I'm offering Kyrie Irving for James Hardin. I don't think they do. that, but that's where my talk, my conversation is starting. Boy, how about Steve Nash? Steve Nash lived out here in L.A. on the beach, got beautiful house, got a great life. He said, I'm going to go into coaching. Oh, my lord. I mean, I, seriously, I look at that situation,

and I just think, I think you put it best. I think sometimes in life, who do you, who do you choose as your running mate? And I think some guys choose the wrong running mate. I mean, it's as simple as that, right? It's the way it works in basketball. Yeah. No, absolutely. Absolutely. And look, we'll see how this plays out with the Nets. I don't know. I don't know when we're going to see Kyrie Irvin on the court again. I think the challenge for the Nets is if you did try to trade him, he might just walk away from the game. We don't know. And I don't think it's a mental health issue. I think Kyrie is different. And I think some of it's admirable. Like he does, you know, do a lot of charitable stuff that people don't give him credit for or talk about.

I think he really is all in on the social justice fight. Here's what I would say to Kyrie, Colin. He can do more for social justice and reform as a superstar NBA player with all his fame and his platform and all of that than he can as just a rank and file activist out in the streets. Yeah. And then when you retire, you're only 35. So he'll be young enough to dedicate all of his time to the cause or whatever he wants to do.

So I would say he needs to think about that because he does sincerely seem all in on the activism, which I like. But you have to keep the main thing, the main thing. And his first thing is to be a professional basketball player. Chris Bruce Sard. Where to go. That's that soft, cushy NBA media. You came with a little attitude today. I appreciated that.

Thank you, Chris. You stirred me up. You stirred me up. All right, Chris Broussard. Life-changing sleep. It's about what's underneath. That's why you go to casper.com. Only a Casper mattress gives you all those cooling, supportive gel pods.

Casper.com. So we got our NFL. I love today. I did my NFL best candidate, my perfect candidate for every NFL job. The more I looked at it when you put it on the screen, the more I liked it. Cupid Colin. Yeah. Like love connection. And now I'm not making predictions.

I'm not saying these will happen. Right. But I think there's certain, I mean, fit matters. Like Jason Garrett to the Jets. He's a grown-up. He's from the area. They need quarterback and offensive line elevation. That's kind of what he does. Like Brian Daibel,

he went, he was a high school teammate of Tom Telesco, the GM. And what they need is a guy that can guide a young quarterback. Some of these jobs, some of these fits. Arthur Smith, Southern guy wants to stay there. Matt Ryan knows his system, flourished under his system. Hour three next, I heard. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite.

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