The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 01/13/2021 - HOUR 3 - Watson

Episode Date: January 13, 2021

Watson or Watsoff: Colin gives the best NFL teams for Deshaun WatsonGuest: Brian Billick Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privac...y information.

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Starting point is 00:02:59 in the NFL, but as he has told me, it is a young man's game. He's an NFL network analyst. His name is Brian Billick, and he's joining me now live. So let me start with this. I look at Urban Meyer to the Jaguars. What do you think right now, Brian, is going through his mind because he's on the fence with this job? Well, Urban obviously is a good coach, and there's always the question, can a college coach make that transition? in the NFL? And yeah, the answer is yes. A good coach is a good coach. Now, someone that's never had any NFL experience, that is a transition. And I think that's probably what he's thinking about. One, do I want to come back and coach? Because it is a grind, you know, and secondly, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:46 will what I do work in the NFL and can I put the right group together? That those are all questions that he's got to have legitimate questions for having never done it in the NFL and knowing exactly how that fits. So I'm sure these are some real questions for him, probably as much as anything, can I put the right people around me? And, you know, can I get the right people in to make this thing workable? You know, it's interesting. I would want him to have some personnel say because Brian, this NFL draft, he's recruited most of the top players. Wouldn't you, if you were a GM and you took the job, wouldn't you, like Pete Carroll when he came out of USC, his first three drafts, just mopped up. So, so I mean, I guess if I owned, if I own the Jags, don't I want Urban to have
Starting point is 00:04:35 say and personnel? Yeah, you want your coach. I don't care whether it's Urban Meyer, whoever. You want say, obviously you have to have a certain structure as to who, just like play calling. At the end of the day, there's a lot of opinions, but someone has to be vested in say, yes, this is what we're doing. The same with the draft and put it together. You want input. You want all the input you can get. But at the end of day, there has to be that singular voice. Now, that can be your voice. It can be the GM's voice. You know, that's all well and good. And you're right, he's going to bring a perspective with it. The hard thing for Urban will be, you know, he was at Ohio State, just like a Nick Saban in Alabama. You look at the top 150 high school
Starting point is 00:05:14 players in the country. You can say, okay, I want these 20 or 30. You're going to look at that, you know, you're going to have 150 guys on your board on draft day, and they're all going to look good. But you're going to get, and that board empty is quick, and you're going to get, three of them. So, you know, it's a little bit different dynamic, particularly when you've been someplace where you can kind of pick and choose the talent you want like you could at in Ohio State. Jacksonville, they'll do a good job and they'll do a great job evaluating it. But at the end of the day, you know, your top three picks. After that, it's, okay, you're like everybody else. Take a flyer on this guy or that guy. But clearly that structure has to be in place, and he has to be comfortable with
Starting point is 00:05:50 how that's going to get done. Because at Ohio State, it was one-stop shopping. You know, he was everything. Final say, didn't really even have to answer to the president or the AD, a little bit different in the NFL. So stories out of the Miami Herald today as multiple dolphin players question the coaching staff's loyalty to Tua. Now, years ago, Brian, obviously you would give a young quarterback at least a year and a half before of assessing him before you really made judgments. But Brian, over the last 15 years, the high school quarterback industry has exploded. These kids have 10,000 snaps for the time they're 12 years old. Two has got nine games, 600 snaps, 300 passes. I mean, can you see them with a number three picks saying,
Starting point is 00:06:35 we got enough footage? We're not into them. I mean, what would you do if you read in the Miami Herald today and you coached the dolphins, a lot of these veteran players are like, he's not nearly as good as Ryan Fitzpatrick? Well, that's got to be a concern. You wonder where that's coming from. But clearly job won for them, and it was unique.
Starting point is 00:06:52 situation for them because they had to do it while they were trying to make a playoff run. Typically when your young quarterback comes in, your first round pick, you have the second half of the season, get them some seasoning, you're playing for next year. That's all good, well and good. And it really doesn't matter. You know, if he throws an interception, who cares? We're just going to lose another game. We weren't going to go to the playoffs anyway. But Miami had to walk that walk where, you know, we're still kind of a playoff team. I thought they did a pretty good job with it, brought Fitzpatrick in when they needed to. They clearly have enough to know whether Tua is the guy or not.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Plus, they're sitting there with the third overall pick. That's some pretty good collateral, either to get one or get trade in and get some more. So if they can convince themselves that Tua is the guy, they got some capital there at the number three pick where they can really parlay that into something else. But the bottom line question is, do they think he is the guy going long term? Or is one of these other guys maybe more attractive to them? So the Browns go in as a 10-point underdog to well-rested Kansas City. Obviously, if you're a 10-point favorite, you have better personnel that's largely understood.
Starting point is 00:08:01 But go back to your career, Brian. Did you ever go in as a significant underdog and did it work? And did you play that to your advantage? Did you let it be known among players? Did you talk a lot about it like Cleveland Space this week? Oh, sure. You get that chip on your shoulder, us against the world. Nobody believes in us. You hear that all the time, whether it's legitimate or not. And even if it's not true, you make it up as a coach and try to get your team to believe it, you know, just to get, try to get that edge. You know, Cleveland, clearly because they're the newbie to it and they're playing the reigning Super Bowl champ, are they capable of beating Kansas City? Yes. Do they have an offense that can be explosive at times?
Starting point is 00:08:43 Baker Mayfield can be efficient if he doesn't turn it over. They've got a really solid running game. And the defense is. solid. So can they beat Kansas City? Yes, but the number of things they've got to do, not give up the big play, rally up and tackle and minimize yards after the catch, run the ball, keep time of possession, getting the red zone score, touchdowns, not field goals. Can they do that? Yes, but the card part, when you play Kansas City, you got to do it all. You can't do three out of the five. You can't do four out of the five. You've got to do all five, or Patrick Mahomes and Kansas City is going to beat you. So are they capable of doing it? Sure, they are. They've got to the talent. Will they do it? It's a tall order. So I remember Jimmy Johnson talking to me once about,
Starting point is 00:09:27 you know, at the end of Dan Marino's career, you get into kind of uncomfortable conversations with rich iconic, I mean, Miami was Dan Marino's town. And Big Ben kind of runs Pittsburgh. And if I'm Mike Tomlin, after what I saw at the second half of the year, I think it's time to have one of those uncomfortable conversations with Ben about how hard is he willing to commit in the offseason. Brian, he looked tired. He looked old. He didn't move well. If you were in that room in Pittsburgh and you fought him for years, how do you broach that conversation with a star, with a lot of power, and you know when you look at film, we may not have a guy that can get us to the next level? Yeah, that's not a conversation.
Starting point is 00:10:15 You don't have the conversation. You just have to make the decision. Either you're coming back or you're not. Because if you ask the player, the player is always going to think they can go a little bit longer. And Ben can go, wait a minute, I had 35 touchdowns, 10 interceptions. The thing that was going on in the last quarter of the season wasn't all me, which is legitimate to a degree. The fact that Pittsburgh can't run the ball still fathoms me with that offensive line. Conner's a solid.
Starting point is 00:10:37 So I don't know what's going on that way. But Ben can certainly play. The next question has to be asked, okay, we've decided he can't do it. We're going to move on. Now what? You've got to have that next. You've got to have the answer to the next question. There's going to be a few interesting options maybe in free agency.
Starting point is 00:10:55 You're not really in the position draft-wise unless you want to spend a whole lot to move up. There's a lot of open ends to this conversation in terms of, because it go, like I said, there's two parts to it. Can he still play? And if he can't, what's our best option? Yeah. That's interesting stuff. So we have seven different job openings right now.
Starting point is 00:11:17 And this morning I went out and I kind of speculated. I don't have any inside information on him. It was more, for instance, Brian Daibol, the coordinator for the bills, went to high school with Tom Telesco, the Chargers, GM. I think he's a good candidate. He's got a quarterback. Like that fits feels good to me. Sure.
Starting point is 00:11:33 I thought Jason Garrett, a very mature, functional man in sometimes a little chaotic organization, and the Jets. I thought that felt like he grew up in New Jersey. I thought that kind of feels right. Urban to the Jags, I get why they'd want him. He's kind of a, he's a little juice to an organization that doesn't have a ton of juice. Yeah, so here's my, I had Urban, Jason, Garrett, Arthur Smith. When, when, some of these guys, by the way, are going to have more than one option.
Starting point is 00:12:01 What would you say to a young coach who may get more than one NFL option? What are the one or two questions or concerns for a young coach going to a new place? You know, at the end of the day, and I'm always asking which of these are the best jobs? And yeah, there's a lot of factors. But at the end of the day, what's the quarterback situation? That's the unique thing about these seven jobs. You're looking at five of them with legitimate, notwithstanding where you think about Carson Wentz, but legitimate quarterbacking off, you're going to start with a top-tier quarterback.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Oh, by the way, the two that don't have it, Jackson's. in New York have the number one and two draft, and as you said, a quarterback rich draft looks like right now. So this is a unique year. All of these jobs, to me, this is as an attractive job fair, as I've seen in a long time, because they all have quarterback options. You're not going to have to go in and solve the quarterback question right now. So it really is, how do I rank them? Well, how do you rate the quarterbacks? You know, if you think Justin Herbert's the best quarterback of that group or do you think Deshaun Watson's the best quarterback in that group, then that's probably the best job. Now, certainly you've got to pair it with, well,
Starting point is 00:13:12 what is their cap situation? Are they in good shape now? Are they heading towards a crash with the cap? Ownership to a degree, but that is kind of hard to put your finger on as to this is a good owner. That's a bad owner. So at the end of the day, it's what's the quarterback situation and how quickly can I wrap things around it? By the way, your jacket, ex-tech equipment I see you have on there, That's the shoulder pad company, right? Yeah, we are. Been together. I've been with them for eight years, one of the original investors,
Starting point is 00:13:42 Bob Broderick and Teddy Monica, done an incredible job. It's the number one pad in the National Football League. You know, they've got to take the head out of the game. We know that. Right. That means it goes to the pads. And we've got the number one pad in the NFL, replete through the college game, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:56 whether it's Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Ohio State, all the top NFL players, Kittle, DK. METCAF, Josh Allen, Aaron Donald. all in ex-tech pads. They're available at the high school level because you've got to protect these young people. I'm coaching my third grade grandson's team right now,
Starting point is 00:14:15 which is kind of not right now, but I did in the fall. It's kind of interesting, a little bit different coaching that group than the group I have. I always say, you know, well, one group's immature, doesn't know what they're doing and hard to focus,
Starting point is 00:14:26 but working with the third graders isn't easy either. But yeah, this is where the safety of our kids is head in X-Tac pads. Brian Billick, NFL Network, Decker in the NFL and a Super Bowl ring. Thanks, coach. Appreciate it. Sounds good. All right, good stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:42 That dolphin situation is really interesting. Nine starts, has not been a bust, six and three, accurate, mature, coachable, good, good, good like adult personality. What do you do with that third pick? See, the other thing, here's the other thing. I could make the argument with Tua. So here's my argument. If I'm Brian Flores and I want him to win. Brian can say, one, he costs me nothing for the next three years.
Starting point is 00:15:13 He's free. That's a big deal. We know that rookie contracts allow you to go out and spend money on Byron Jones, the Great Corner, Kyle Van O. The second thing is my defense is so good here. I don't need him to be great. If he's B, we can win the division and then it's a roll of dice in the playoffs. The counter to that to a player that's talking to Miami Herald is
Starting point is 00:15:36 Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen are in the AFC. You're not going to hold them to 17 points. They're scoring 28 if you give them eight possessions. And how do you only give them eight possessions? We've got to have the ball and pick up first downs. I don't even know if Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen are the argument. I think it's Justin Herbert and Joe Burrough. Those are his contemporaries.
Starting point is 00:15:57 I mean, yes, you're going to have to beat Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes if you want to win the AFC. but I mean, Justin Herbert looks great. Joe Burrow looks great. By the way, just think of the young quarterback. Herbert Burrow, Mahomes, Josh Allen. Let's put Baker in there. You're going to have Trevor Lawrence, probably Justin Fields. Lamar Jackson.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Oh, yeah, Lamar Jackson last year's MVP. Yeah. That's the next 10 years in the AFC. Does Tua compare to any of them? Not really. I mean, Lamar has developed a lot over the past couple years. Obviously, Josh Allen as well, but Josh Allen had the physical features. They're all dynamic, except to it.
Starting point is 00:16:40 There's a dynamic, you can't say accuracy. They're all dynamic somewhere. The counter to the argument about Tua being a B and making it work is kind of what I think happened with Trabiski in Chicago. They had a great defense. They have a good defense now. You had a moment where you had a Super Bowl-level defense and you had a B-to-C quarterback. And you can't. You can get some playoffs.
Starting point is 00:17:05 You can get there. That's not good enough. Not in Miami or Chicago. Those places have had, you know, Super Bowls. Yeah. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.
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Starting point is 00:20:51 So James Harden had remained silent about his reported desire for a trade, but after a 117, 100 lost to the Lakers last night, he spoke about his feelings on the Rockets right now. We're just not good enough. You know, we just, we don't, you know, obviously chemistry, talent-wise, just everything. And it was clear, like I said, these last few games. I love this city.
Starting point is 00:21:15 I literally, you know, done everything that I can. You know, I mean, this situation is crazy. You know, it's something that I don't think can be fixed. So, yeah, thanks. Well, Rockets coach Stephen Silas said James Hardin was not at practice today. He said we felt it was best for the group and best for James not to come to practice. According to Woge, the Rockets are planning to keep Hardin away until a trade is done with the front office weighing the best offers from Brooklyn and Philadelphia. And the process is now moving quickly.
Starting point is 00:21:48 the Sixers and Nets gathered momentum in the recent days even before that news conference from James Hardin. He hasn't scored more than 20 points in four straight games. That's his longest streak since 2012. Yeah, I really, first of all, unhappiness aside, not being in shape. I mean, if I trade for him in Brooklyn, I still got three weeks where he's got to get in shape.
Starting point is 00:22:11 I think he's doing himself a disservice. I mean, maybe Brooklyn's mentality is, unlike Kyrie, at least he's there. And we can win half our games. So he's at an actual body that's there. Like Kyrie is not even in the buildings. It's not like he's going through something. He's not even there.
Starting point is 00:22:27 And maybe this will, this move will re-inspire James Hardin to get back to what he was. I, again, I don't think that the situation in Houston can be blamed on anybody but James Hardin. You've brought in a new coach. You've brought in different number two guys. Like, at the end of the day, you're the consistent piece. If there's one consistent piece and one consistent outcome,
Starting point is 00:22:49 I tend to lean towards the piece that has been consistent as the root of the issue. Now, maybe he feels differently. He's in the building and there's some deeper issue there. I don't know how him going to Brooklyn is much different. But, and the Sixers really either. I don't think the Sixers is the right place for him either. I just, I don't know at this point what else Houston can do. What else can they possibly do?
Starting point is 00:23:14 I'm not all I know is this I take Ben Simmons I'm not taking Kyrie no way I'm taking Kyrie in a trade if I'm Houston no way not even can say I just like hang the phone up I mean but like what Houston doesn't have a choice at this point they have to make a trade I mean he doesn't want to play he's showing up he's out of shape he's it doesn't even look like he's trying if you gave me Ben Simmons and draft picks for Hardin I take it now I'm not going to get the scoring but I then it's up to me to if I had Ben Simmons give me shooters
Starting point is 00:23:44 Ben will give me 19 a night, 12 assists, give me shooters. But I feel like Ben is young, he's healthy. There's some limitations to him. But there was limitations to Hardin, and he's out of shape. So you have Hardin and Joel Embedde? Yeah, and I think that's the bad. I think I've said this from the beginning. Does it win championships?
Starting point is 00:24:01 I don't know. But the styles fit. It's a more realistic situation than Kyrie and John Wall, I think. Yeah, no, I think Hardin and Embed, dominant interior force, a hardened dominant perimeter force. I think it works. That's a 50-win team if they're healthy. So for the second straight season,
Starting point is 00:24:21 the Packers finished with a 13 and 3 record and are looking to make a deep run in the playoffs. They were stopped short of the Super Bowl last year. But Aaron Rogers thinks their offense is ready to take the next step this season. We thought we could win it last year. You know, the Niners were such a dominant team last year. I think that kind of hit our confidence maybe a little bit.
Starting point is 00:24:47 I feel like we have a lot of confidence this year. We believe in ourselves. Offensively, we're just a much better team than we were. We're a much more efficient team. We're playing with a lot more confidence. They are a better team. They led the league in points per game this season. They were 15th in 2019.
Starting point is 00:25:00 And they were fifth in yards per game this season. They were 18th in 2019. Rogers had the second highest completion percentage of his career and the most touchdown passes of his career this season. So their offense is definitely better. We better our second year together or our first. Our second year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:15 So let's be fair to Aaron Rogers. If you get a new system, Brady's probably, now his age is a factor, but he'll probably be better next year. I mean, you look at Brady in December's better than Brady in September. So like fairness, it takes almost everybody a year in a system so that you don't, like, if you look at Kyle Shanahan and Matt Ryan, I think it was year two that it was incredible. It just takes time. So you don't have to think about plays.
Starting point is 00:25:39 They're just like muscle memory. I also think that that's the reason why they're better, not because they drafted Jordan Love. I think that's fair. I'm not giving Jordan Love. I don't think it has anything to do. A lot of credit with Jordan Love. Yes. And that's no disrespect to Jordan Love.
Starting point is 00:25:54 It's just that Aaron Rogers is great. And now he's in the same system for another year. And everyone's a little bit better. And everyone's a little bit more comfortable. And they were a great team last year. They just needed to get a little more physical. Like, they're better. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:26:06 It has nothing to do with him needing motivation from Jordan Love. By the way, he's also going to be a guest host. on Jeopardy, which he revealed yesterday, and he was a contestant in 2015 and said that Alex Trebek was one of his idols growing up, so that, like, took the internet by so. People loved Alex Trebek. I mean, an unbelievable television legend. He loved. So Lamar Jackson has accomplished a lot, but one thing he's never done is playing in the snow. Texas got hit with a lot of snow this past week. There's a 40% chance of snow up to an inch on Saturday night in Buffalo, and he has admitted he's a little concerned. Zero experience.
Starting point is 00:26:40 I never got to plan the snow. Except my first time since snow in Louisville, but we had a snowball fight, so that's totally different from planning it. But, yeah, that definitely would be my first time planning football in snow. Let me taste something. If it does, hopefully it don't.
Starting point is 00:26:55 By the way, you think he's fast. You think he makes you lose your footing on grass. The advantage is to Lamar. As long as you don't get wind. If you just get snow, if it's just slippery, he's going to go crazy. Buffalo is a very cold. I mean, we're showing some video of it now.
Starting point is 00:27:13 That's a place that gets next level cold. It's like Lambo. Like, it gets really cold. Now, an inch is not that dramatic. Yeah. But his press conferences are so great. He's so hilarious. He has such a good energy to him just all around the game.
Starting point is 00:27:27 I find him on the field in press conferences. I find him really easy to root for. Yeah. I mean, listen, we had the Kyrie's Irving story. Some guys are hard to root for. Even if you think they're great, you're like, that's hard to root for him. Lamar's easy to root for. So fun.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Justin Herbert with his little boy haircut. Some guys you're like, I want that guy to do well. Yeah. I like it. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lye News.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Watson or Wattsoff, where does he fit? We'll put the uniforms on. You tell us the look right, the aesthetic, the optics, the fit for Deshawn Watson, who wants out. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win.
Starting point is 00:28:41 I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment. And the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music.
Starting point is 00:29:17 The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tapped Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs?
Starting point is 00:29:45 Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. be clear, 84 was big to me not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so you all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast. or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jared Adano.
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Starting point is 00:31:54 That's Mike's 25 to save 25%. Mike's 25. Go to their app through January 17th. Good to have you in. So Deshawn Watson is unhappy currently with the Houston Texans organization. there have been rumors that Miami would be willing to trade Tua and some draft picks. And we thought, let's just take a look at all the teams, put him in a uniform for Dishon Watson. Watts on or Watts off?
Starting point is 00:32:21 Where does he fit and where doesn't he fit potentially? Watson. I'm definitely not going to get this right. What's on, what's off, Chicago Bears. So I would say Deshawn Watson to the Bears, Watts off. First of all, high school in Georgia, college in Clemson, Houston, Texan. Warm weather kid, you'd be asking him to go play in the coldest NFL city. Also, Matt Nagy, and Ryan Pace, the GM are on the hot seat.
Starting point is 00:32:51 So in one year, Deshawn Watson could have coaching instability. I don't think it fits. What's on, what's off, Niners. I think people will be surprised. He doesn't look right in that jersey. I'm going to say, what's off. First of all, he's got a history of injuries, so did Jimmy G. So I think San Francisco would prefer to get a player who, without the big contract, with a little injury concern.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Also, this feels like an offense that is so run-centric that Shanahan has a ton of control and doesn't want his quarterback doing too much playmaking. I think he likes a quarterback that does what he wants. And sometimes Deshaun, you got to let him be Deshawn. What's off. What's on, what's off, Miami Dolphins. What's on? This is one of the easy ones.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Who's he screaming at? Brian Flores has a five-year contract, coaching stability. The defense is good already. You don't have to win by shootout. And I actually don't think the offense, Devonte Parker's 27, left tackle Austin Jackson, 21, Mike Aseki, the tight ends 25, Miles Garrett, the running back is 23.
Starting point is 00:34:01 I don't think the offense is in a rebuild. I think they need to improve the interior of their offensive line. And I think they have enough draft picks they could give some up. What's on, what's off New York Jets? This is a go back and forth. I'd say what's on because they have a bunch of cap space and a bunch of draft picks. And Denzel Mims does look like a star at wide receiver. They do need, though, they're not strong at running back.
Starting point is 00:34:26 They could use a little bit of a playmaker at quarterback. they have money to spend on offense to bring him a veteran-wide receiver along with Denzel Mems. So it feels like he's what they need. Now, for him, he may argue about it, but he would stay in the AFC or he's more familiar. How about the Las Vegas Raiders? Watts on, what's off. What's off? First of all, defense is bad, and they're one of 11 teams entering next year,
Starting point is 00:34:59 the cap. So they have to hit a bunch of home runs in the draft or they can't fix their defense. I don't like quarterbacks going places where they've got to throw 48 times. And by the way, this is a power running offense with a great tight end. Derek Carr is not the Raiders issue. He's thrown for 4,000 yards three straight years. Their issue is outside of Max Crosby, they have no pass rush and they're not very good and they've got to hit a bunch of home runs. They don't have cap space. So I think the Raiders are going to remain even with him, highly entertaining and an average team. Watts on,
Starting point is 00:35:31 Watts off, Denver Broncos. Watts off. Kind of looks good in that uni, though. I'll be honest with you. First of all, Vic Fangio's on the hot seat. So you have coaching instability there. Secondly, the way they're built, I feel like,
Starting point is 00:35:50 I don't know, I feel like it's a power running game and some nice receivers. I think they're regressing defensively, which concerns me. They were 25th in defense last year. I also, is it really a great idea for Deshawn Watson and his agent to send him to the same division as Patrick Mahomes twice a year and Justin Herbert twice a year? Like you're getting to a point where not that you'd ever duck competition, but there's places
Starting point is 00:36:14 I'd rather compete that division, like the NFC East. That division's not it. How about New England Patriots? What's on? Now, this is the obvious one, Watts on. He even looks like a Patriot. I mean, seriously. First of all, they don't draft.
Starting point is 00:36:28 They have a great coach. She's going to get great coaching. And the defense is always fine. And the ownership's great. He didn't have good ownership. So he gets all this stability he never had. They have an inability to draft dynamic offensive players. So New England needs a playmaker at quarterback.
Starting point is 00:36:44 He is. So I really think he's the exact. Their backs are okay. Their old lines good. He's not going to be running for his life. But they've shown an inability to go to the draft and get dynamic players. He'd be a perfect fit. The Indianapolis Colts, Watson, what's off?
Starting point is 00:36:58 Close, I'd say, what's off. Reason being is Frank Reich, I think has a better connection to Carson Wentz. I think that's obvious. Colts number one receiver, T.Y. Hilton now is in his 30s, getting a little old. Michael Pittman doesn't believe he'll be the next star. I don't think it's bad with this O-Line. He knows the division. I just don't think it's perfect.
Starting point is 00:37:22 The Pittsburgh Steelers, Watson, what's off. Now, this is a home run for me. This is Watson. This one makes a ton of sense. First of all, they have tremendous wide receivers, and they're all young. He can grow with them. And they got more than one.
Starting point is 00:37:35 So they could trade one. And they got Juju Smith, Deontay Johnson, Chase Claypool. Secondly, the defense is taken care of. It's the most stable organization, one of the most in the NFL. You have a head coach who takes care of the defense. This is a home run.
Starting point is 00:37:54 The New Orleans Saints. What's on, what's off? What's off. First of all, they're way over the cap. They are way over. So if there was an injury or an inefficiency, it got no money. Secondly, you got the Taseham Hill thing, the James Winston thing. It just feels like it's a crowded quarterback room with different pieces.
Starting point is 00:38:13 I don't think it works. I think honestly, Dolphins, Steelers, Patriots, three home runs. We'll see you tomorrow. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite, unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their Between Songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smygle
Starting point is 00:38:46 and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds.
Starting point is 00:39:11 I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep. That's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th.
Starting point is 00:39:27 You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Cliford Show. This is a place for raw, unfills of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Cliford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on
Starting point is 00:39:55 TikTok. On the Look Back at it podcast. From 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 was big to me. I'm Sam Jay. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it with our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year. I mean, it was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to Look Back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.

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