The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 01/18/2021 - HOUR 3 - Touchback Rule, Tony Gonzalez, 3-Word Game

Episode Date: January 18, 2021

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Starting point is 00:01:40 I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild. It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.
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Starting point is 00:02:39 He is joining me now live. So I'm saying this about the Chiefs is that, you know, for every other team in the league, you know, you can tell they're in a real struggle that both Breeze and Brady last night. Not everything works. You know, you're struggling. And then you watch Kansas City's first six. six, seven drives with Mahomes, and he's limping around, and it just looks so easy. And maybe it's because the speed, but in your entire NFL career, was there a season
Starting point is 00:03:06 where you felt like, yeah, we got better players? This is just pretty easy. Yeah. Yeah, well, my 16th year in the league with Matt Ryan and Roddy White and Michael Turner and Julio Jones, that's when we stepped out on the field. I was like, there's nothing you can do to stop us. If we don't beat ourselves, then you're at the mercy of what, I don't care what defense.
Starting point is 00:03:34 And we did that. I mean, we pretty much did that until we lost, and we didn't lose because we couldn't move the ball. We moved the ball up and down the field. And I think that's kind of what's going on in Kansas City right now. They are so much faster, so much quicker, efficient. You got Andy Reid, he's on his game right now. We talked about it.
Starting point is 00:03:54 He's like a Willie Wonka. There is no place I know that could compare to pure imagination. He's coming up with these plays that guys are coming wide open because they have the speed. They have the talent. They've been together. That's another thing. Continuity. Togetherness.
Starting point is 00:04:11 These guys are all on the same page. It's like a great basketball team where they're together so long. They know each other's moves. There was a play in the game in Kansas City. And I think you showed it where. Patrick Holmes comes off the receiver and it was Kelsey. And Kelsey dips in and goes back out. It wasn't part of the play.
Starting point is 00:04:31 This is all adlet. This is all ad lib. It's just like playing pickup basketball, but they read each other's thoughts. And that's why they're so dangerous. That's why I still have them in the Super Bowl and win in the Super Bowl. Because I don't know who's going to be able to stop them for four quarters straight. So when you watch Buffalo and Lamar Jackson, What are we now to make a Lamar?
Starting point is 00:04:53 You know, I said earlier that nobody bailed on Philip Rivers. We knew he wasn't athletic. We knew there were things he couldn't do. And so you just kept building around Philip Rivers. James Harden, we've watched him in the playoffs. Like there's things he can't do. And I look at Lamar and I'm like, boy, there's a lot he can do. I know maybe, you know, his receiving corps is not real good.
Starting point is 00:05:16 What do you make when you watch Lamar average 30 a game in the regular season and now through four playoff games, average 13. It doesn't look quite the same. What do you do? You know, I've been thinking about that too because he's such a talent. But I believe right now, right now in his career, when there's a cap to what he can do.
Starting point is 00:05:36 I mean, obviously he needs to keep working on his mechanics and throwing the ball down the field, throwing the ball to the outside of numbers. He has to become that complete player. When you get to the playoffs and you play against, these really good defenses, you know what they're going to. They know what Lamar is going to do. For him to be really successful, and I don't knock him for this. It is what he does. He has to run the football. He has to run it with his legs. He is not particularly a top line passer, not a slicer and
Starting point is 00:06:07 dicer. He needs to keep working on that. He needs to keep getting better at that, and he can during the golf season, because we know what he can do with his legs. And he will do that with his legs, but I think it's going to be this way. This is going to be the recipe for his career until he can go out there and start making those throws down the field and maybe they get them better players. Maybe they can get him another tight-in
Starting point is 00:06:31 or whatever it is, another receivers. But right now the way it looks, I think this is going to be a repeat pattern. He's going to be a good quarterback. He's going to be a great quarterback. He's going to get you to the playoffs. But when you get to the playoffs, you play against those really good teams,
Starting point is 00:06:44 it's about winning Super Bowl for him. He's a strong. superstar. I judge him now. You got to go win a Super Bowl, Lamar, and I think he can. He just got to keep working on his game during the offseason. So Breeze yesterday looked old, Big Ben looked old, Philip Rivers looked old, Brady doesn't, but when you
Starting point is 00:06:58 watch Breeze play, do you remember your last game? What did you feel like? What did you look like? I mean, give me your because I kind of feel like we've seen this coming for about two years with Breeze, but I mean, go back to the end of your career. What was it? What did you know?
Starting point is 00:07:14 Well, I knew my skills were starting to diminish a little bit, and I knew I could still play. And I think that's probably where Drew Breeze is. We're kind of similar to that. And I was watching that game yesterday. And I remember my last game. I was playing against the Carolina Panthers. And honestly, it was the worst game I've ever played, meaning I'm not from a physical
Starting point is 00:07:33 standpoint. Just mentally, I did not like it. I didn't enjoy myself because I knew this was it. And I think towards the end of that game, that second half, especially when the inevitable look like, okay, shoot, they're probably. going to lose here, that whole fourth quarter, I could picture in his brain, he's thinking, this is it. I bet he was, when he's putting on his helmet, he's like, this could be the last time I'm ever going to put on my helmet. And now you're worried about that. And it takes you out of the
Starting point is 00:07:59 focus of the game. And that's what happened to me, my last game. I did not particularly play well. I miss some assignments. I just, I just did not enjoy it. I couldn't wait to get off the field, even though it was my last game and they had the press there. I had my family there. And he knew that's the, that's the problem with, if I could go back, I would never have told everybody that I'm going to retire that year. I would have just came out and retired at the end of the year because that gets in your your head psychologically. Maybe that's part of the reason why he wasn't able to make the plays that he normally does.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Yesterday, he did not play as well as he played all year. And maybe that had something to do with it. Well, it's interesting because I remember talking to you when you were in Atlanta, you just arrived there, and I'd bring you on my show. And you're very much in a nutrition, taking care of yourself. So you're a lot like Brady. You didn't have injuries. You played forever.
Starting point is 00:08:47 You played a high rate forever. But yesterday I was watching Tom and I'm like, God, his velocity, there were times I was like, dude, scale it back. The ball's coming out too hot. Are you, even with your standards and the way you take care of yourself, do you kind of look at Brady and kind of just like think, what is it? It's a LeBron thing. What is it?
Starting point is 00:09:09 He's taking it the whole mental game to the next level. he eat, sleeps, and breeze winning. And he's always done that. And I think as he's gotten older, he's realized that he has to even take that to another level. He's the Jedi master. I'm telling you, the way he can get centered and focused on what matters, it's so impressive to watch.
Starting point is 00:09:32 And I think any player out there watching, I don't care, even if it's just fan, he's always constantly thinking how he can get better. He's never satisfied. I love his answer to the question, what was your favorite Super Bowl? He says the next one. And that's the mentality that he takes,
Starting point is 00:09:47 and he'll keep doing that for as long as he can. Is he going to come back and play next year? I have no doubt now. Even if he wins a Super Bowl this year, I bet he comes back in place because he's got the teammates. He's mastered the take less money. I mean, he's making only, when I say only, comparatively speaking, $25 million to go get players surrounded him.
Starting point is 00:10:08 This guy is just in complete control of what it takes. to be the greatest quarterback of all time or at least one of them. So we're seeing a lot of these coaching hires, Tony, and it's a lot of young guys, Chargers, Brandon Staley, Sean McVeigh, Zach Taylor, Cincinnati, Cliff Kingsbury. You know, your career, I mean, go back to your career. Do young coaches in the locker room at enthusiasm? Would you worry?
Starting point is 00:10:34 How are young coaches viewed compared to veteran coaches? How did you view it? You know, when I look back at my career, I've never had, a young coach ever. Every position coach I've ever had was way old when I say way older than me at least 10 years and shoot my my rookie year I came in my think my position coach was 72 years old or 73 a great guy. So I've never had the experience with the young with the young coach but I've talked to players that have had that and they love it. They love it because you feel like hey that generation like that gap is not there and they can communicate along the same lines
Starting point is 00:11:12 But I see the youth movement. It's the hot thing right now. Go get yourself a young guy. They feel like they have better ideas or whatever it is. I think Arthur Smith is a great hire for a guy like Matt Ryan. I believe they're close to the same age. They can communicate a little bit better, I guess. But whatever it is, they want to bring these offensive coaches in
Starting point is 00:11:34 because of the way the rules are set up now. It absolutely favors the offense. And you put more points up. You see a team like the chief. Chiefs putting up all these points and they're winning Super Bowls with it. I think that's the direction a lot of these teams want to go. Yeah, I mean, the four best quarterbacks are the four guys left and the four teams. So it's just people, it's self-fulfilling.
Starting point is 00:11:56 If you think quarterbacks matter, now you're watching it. You know, as you look at Green Bay, final question, 71% of their plays had motion. They had all these offensive guys two years ago, but they didn't look like this. Mike McCarthy's offenses now in Dallas were much more static. And I think to myself sometimes, you know, Aaron's obviously a very heady guy. But there's so much offense and so much movement with Green Bay. And I think, I'm surprised they don't have more penalties. And it feels so elaborate to me.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Go back to the most complicated offense. Did it matter to you? Did it force you out of a comfort zone? Because when I watch Green Bay, they are moving. Constantly, nothing looks the same. Did you ever plan an offense like that? Yeah, I did. Going from the West Coast offense to the, I think they call it,
Starting point is 00:12:49 Don Eric Correale, Al Saunders was our offensive coordinator, came in with Dick Rameel, with Priest Holmes. I don't you guys remember, Eddie Kinnison. And we did movement every single play, it seemed like we were, I'd start to the right, jump over to the left, come in motion, solar right, double trouble, all, whatever, jet tube, motion, all this stuff. And the reason the coordinator, Al Saanus, would say, the reason we do this is to trick, to get an advantage. We want the defense constantly on his heels, but it does
Starting point is 00:13:22 create a lot more confusion for the offensive players. You have to be absolutely dialed in. It was the hardest offense I've ever been in because everything changes too. When you flip-flop, for instance, if they say 363 F-shoot post, and you're on the right and you hear a three, it's a different route than if you're on the left and you hear a three. So you really have to be dialed in and it takes a heady quarterback. It takes heavy players. Those players have to be tuned in, tapped in and ready to go. And if you're not, you're going to have penalties.
Starting point is 00:13:54 And I love what LaFour has done there. Obviously, they've handled it well. They're dialed in now. I think it's part of that maturation of last year they were struggling. Remember the last couple of years? But now LaFore and Aaron, they're on the same page. and maybe it wasn't a difference of personality. It was just a difference of letting the ingredients come together,
Starting point is 00:14:14 letting everything settle so we all get on the same page. And now you're seeing it where they're all tuned, tapped in and ready to rock. Yeah, this offense, by the way, works significantly better in year two than year one. And to your point, it's so darn, it's heavy for players to figure out. So this Matt Lafleur offense, you get Kyle Shanan offense, it takes like a year for even the quarterback to figure out,
Starting point is 00:14:36 not just the language, but the speed and the tempo. And it has paid off big dividends for Green Bay. Tony Gonzalez, the Hall of Famer, Fox NFL kickoff. Good seeing you, bud. Good seeing you. Take care. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.
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Starting point is 00:18:30 USA.com slash AMG. Joy Taylor with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Well, the Rams season ended Saturday with a 32-18 loss to the Packers. Immediately after the game, Sean McVeigh said Jared Gough was their quarterback for now, and he committed to be non-committal, continued to be non-committal to Gough when he was asked about it yesterday.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Everything's being evaluated. I'm not ready to make any sort of statements with regards to any. starting position or not, we're going to have a level of competition at everything that we do. And so that's where we're at. And I think, you know, being able to take a step back, catch our breath and evaluate everything as we move forward and try to be at our best, that's my answer to the question. Oh, boy. That was interesting. Well, four seasons are left on Gop's $110 million guaranteed contract. But Gough looked a little off this season. This is starting to feel like.
Starting point is 00:19:30 like a little like the Todd Gurley situation where it's like all season long. It's like everything's fine. Everything's good. The Rams are like that. Like they're not going to let anything disrupt. Well, it's just, they're just not going to confirm anything. It's almost very like patriot-like. Like it's kind of in quiet in-house.
Starting point is 00:19:50 And then once they move on from a player, we kind of see what the situation was. I will say this. I did think, like I thought they needed, I thought they were overpaying Brandon Cooks. But boy, I thought in the last month, they have no over-the-top receiver. So the offense is a series of like four to 11-yard. They don't have a pop play. They don't have any. You know, Buffalo brings to Fawn.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Remember, Buffalo last year didn't have a deep threat. Look at the four teams who are still in the playoffs. Pop play. We're talking all about quarterbacks. All of them have playmakers that they can get big chunk yardage like that with. Now, obviously, they have the quarterback that can get it to them. but I don't think that Goff isn't that quarterback. He's lost a little bit of confidence.
Starting point is 00:20:33 They don't have an over-the-top threat. They don't. I mean, we watched him out-dule-mohms on a Monday night football game. They really do. It's a very good organization, and they've drafted very well. Their secondary is full of talent. They need to go out, and they've got good receivers, but either Van Jefferson can run,
Starting point is 00:20:50 and they're not asking him to run deep, but they've got to get Goff's deep ball back. He throws a beautiful deep ball. He needs to get, not every drive, can be 11 plays. That's one of the things with Cleveland is they don't really have a burner. Like Jarvis Landry's on a burner.
Starting point is 00:21:07 They have good tight ends. You can't make Baker have 13 play drives. It's just you've got to give him an occasional over-the-top play. Well, also that works during the regular season, but when you're getting into shootouts in the playoffs and you need to score in 30 seconds. And you have the best coaches
Starting point is 00:21:20 and best coordinators and best defensive backs. You don't, you know, you need the occasional free touchdown. I don't think that we are not going to see golf, though. that's a lot of money. 110 million. We're going to figure this out. They're going to try to solve it for two years. As they should.
Starting point is 00:21:35 And some of that's going to be, and if it doesn't work. We've seen him do it. Yeah. So we've seen him have the capability of taking a team to the Super Bowl, so figure it out. Okay. The Eagles. So they have committed to Wentz moving forward, obviously moving off of Doug Peterson. But there's a lot of noise in Philadelphia about him not being the easiest quarterback to work with.
Starting point is 00:21:56 According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, he does. did not like being coached hard and had trouble taking blame for any of his mistakes. And the disconnect between Wentz and Doug Peterson was there even before he was benched for Jalen Hertz. There were reportedly times when Wentz would change a play for no other reason than he didn't like it. You're not Aaron Rogers. And with one source calling it a pissing match between coach and quarterback. Wow. Another quotes from the source said, every great quarterback wants to be coached and they want to be coached hard.
Starting point is 00:22:25 And by the best, it doesn't seem like Wentz wants that. It's kind of like whoever's coaching him is working for him, but it can't be that way. That's interesting. Well, you know, well, it's probably the man in North Dakota. And then you get to the NFL and you're just one among men. And you've got to be coached sometimes. I told you when Doug Peterson was fired in this first, this conversation first came out that they weren't getting along. I don't know what that's about.
Starting point is 00:22:51 I don't understand that. I don't have time for it. If I was writing the checks there, I would have a real serious problem with. why you guys can't get along. Like, you make millions and millions and millions of dollars. Get along. Well, guys are different. I mean.
Starting point is 00:23:05 We like to get our way occasionally. Ridiculous. What do you mean you don't want to be coached? So you have all the answers? No, we don't think like that, but sometimes. No, what I'm saying? Like, in this Wendt's situation, like, I don't want to hear that you can't be coached. That's absurd.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Yeah, I mean, listen, it's, if these are true, he's going to have to figure that out. Get a therapist. Figure that out. You've got to be coachable. You have to. So the line. are expected to hire Saints assistant head coach and tight ends coach, Dan Campbell, as their new head coach.
Starting point is 00:23:33 He's never been a coordinator in the league, but he did fill in after the Dolphins fired Joe Philbin in 2015. He also played 10 seasons in the NFL, including three years with the Lions. I have to be honest, I don't get it. But it's the Detroit Lions. Would not have made this higher. I don't get it either. I just, you know, and it's funny because all the cliches I hear,
Starting point is 00:23:56 oh, the man's man. He's alpha. All right. That's great. That's kind of like you've got to be a little bit of an alpha. That's sort of like the foundation of the house and the roof. That's where you start, but you have a kitchen and bathrooms. Let's have a little bit more nuanced discussion beyond.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Players kind of coach. Enough. The Lions have won one playoff win in the Super Bowl era. They have one playoff win in the Super Bowl era. And last one, the division, in 1993. Stop hiring people that make you feel good and hire someone who needs. knows how to build a culture in an organization. They want to hire someone who's a motivator. Get a psychologist. Get like a pep guy to come in and, I don't know, paint some murals on the
Starting point is 00:24:39 wall. What are you talking about? Like Tony Robbins is a great motivational speaker. But in the end, he doesn't take over the companies. He gives advice to elevate the companies. Motivation's great. Give me your playbook. That's my issue with everyone fell in love with Dan Campbell in Miami when he came And it was a bit of an overcorrection for fans because you had Joe Filbin, who's a very, like, quiet, methodical guy, good man, not a big over-the-top speaker, not dramatic, not enthusiastic. And then you have Dan Campbell coming in, you're like busting out of his medium shirt and screaming about running through a wall. And, like, that's great, but you have to have more than extra motivation to win games. Yes, motivation has a ceiling. And I don't even think that he shouldn't get another job.
Starting point is 00:25:19 I'm just saying the lions need so much. Listen, Tony Robbins, the late George Carlin used to always joke about Tony Robbins. If you have the motivation to get in your car and go see him, you don't need Tony Robbins. If you can say, I'm going to go to Pensacola this weekend to watch Tony Robbins and drive six hours. George Carlin said, you're motivated. You just got to get off the couch and stop eating Doritos all day, but you got some motivation in you. You just want to feel good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:43 All right, Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Lye News. Our final football three-word game of the season. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.
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Starting point is 00:26:29 I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, CliverTaylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment,
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Starting point is 00:27:44 I'm Sam Jek. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84's big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack, so I'm starting to see that there's a through line.
Starting point is 00:28:09 We also have AIDS on the table right now, so. Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games. And in recognition of mental health awareness month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking, Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark, Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing. And we're still chasing it. And we don't know when we've done enough. Because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Steve Burns, Dustin Ross, because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth. Are you a good person because you're afraid? Because that's two different intentions, bro. Absolutely. And that's two different levels of trust. I want you to just really be a good person. person. Join me, Keir Gaines, as we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast, Learn the Hardway. Open your free Our Heart Radio app,
Starting point is 00:29:28 search Learn the Hardway, and listen now. And finally today, we do our best for last. It's our final three-word NFL game of the season. We are running out of games and running out of teams. We do believe that three words can succinctly describe and forces to describe the playoff action this weekend. Here we go with our three-word divisional round. Rams.
Starting point is 00:29:54 McVeigh, a McProblem. They have the fifth least salary cap space in the league next year. Four years remaining in cap hits with Jared Goff who had 13 interceptions this year
Starting point is 00:30:09 broke his thumb late in the season. So they got to figure out some things. They've got to get faster at wide receiver, and they've got to get Jared Gough his confidence back. Quarterbacks who are losing confidence who are expensive, get people fired. Packers, a welcome Matt. 16 and 2 now at home with Matt LaFleur, best in the NFL, 28 and 7 overall. They did not have a turnover against the Rams, so this offensive system carved. by Matt Lafleur, 11 total turnovers, fewest in the NFL this year. It is efficient. It is multiple. 71
Starting point is 00:30:51 plays by Matt LaFleur had motion, and at this point they look like the best team left. Ravens. Lamar unravels again. Four touchdowns and seven giveaways in four playoff games. Found himself in a lot of second and 15s and third and nine's. Third straight season with Lamar and the Ravens had their season low in points in a playoff game. You're facing better defenders and you're facing better coaches. I would also like to add they've got to get better wide receivers. It is, in my opinion, the team's weakness. Bills.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Flawed, but fantastic. First team in NFL history without a rushing attempt in the first quarter of a playoff game. Brian Davel went heavy with the path. The Ravens out. Gain the bills, dominated time of possession, converted more third downs. But the bills are a Hail Mary away from a 12-game winning streak. They don't run the ball. Sometimes they don't defend the run, but they got playmakers and they're well-coached.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Browns, the right direction. First playoff wins since 94. First winning season in 13 years. Most wins since 1986. They have the number one graded offensive line. They have the right coach. Baker Mayfield played with poise and maturity. They're headed in the right direction.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Chiefs, Hennie thing is possible. Chad Henney came in. You know, when you go back to the Browns and the Chiefs, what is remarkable about this is how early Mahomes went out. He left the game, Joy, with almost eight minutes left in the third quarter. not like he was gone for a series. How do you win a playoff game when you lose your star quarter? What if Baker would have left the Browns with eight minutes?
Starting point is 00:32:47 And the third, they lost by four touchdowns. But Andy Reed, this was the gut check call of the year. Henny had a couple of nice scrambles. He had one really awful pick. But in the end, 35 years old, first career playoff game. Good for Chad Henney. And good for Andy Reid calling it. Bucks.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Tom versus time. He's going to start a conference championship game in three different decades. Didn't even sound right. Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Rob Gunncrowski, Antonio Brown, combined for just 61 yards. It was not pretty. They beat the Saints. Rough times ahead. Listen, they're projected to be $95 million over the cap.
Starting point is 00:33:35 95 million. They got to make some trades. What they have to do is get rid of some big contracts and hit about four or five home runs on the draft because my guess is for at least a year, it's going to be pretty lean. And finally, your two matchups, Bucks and Packers only gets tougher.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Listen, the Rams defense, number one in the league, got cut up into pieces. And the Bucks and Brady did score all of their touch. touchdowns off four turnovers. You're not getting four turnovers at Lambo from Aaron Rogers. So the going is only getting tougher for Tom Brady and the Bucks. And Lambo's weather, go check out weather.com could be an issue. And Bill's Chiefs, Mahomes, be healthy.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Listen, 15 T's no picks in five career home playoff starts. 24 and 1 in his last 25 starts. even though I said the bills were the better football team all year. If he's healthy, it is hard to bet against Kansas City. That was a very interesting concussion. To Tread Dofer's point, he did not slam his head down. It was almost like a chokeout or something. Like a little bit of a chokeout.
Starting point is 00:34:53 So a lot of people were on Jim Nance. They said, hey, you're not a doctor on the concussion. But when your quarterback gets up and wobbles like that, that's that's that's that's west welker at a couple of those end of his career you're like all right let's just get him off the field that's not what we want so if he plays uh the line is basically kansas city's favored by a field goal if behalms plays and erin rogers and the packers fox bet are favored by three and a half over Tampa i would bet green bay green bay was my favorite bet this weekend uh green bay would be my favorite of the two this weekend all right for
Starting point is 00:35:30 Join everybody here in John Goulet. Nice Monday. Back tomorrow. Be safe. That's a heck of a weekend. It's going to be hard to duplicate that. We'll try. In L.A.
Starting point is 00:35:41 It's the herd. One more herd. The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week, within the IHeart radio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between
Starting point is 00:36:09 songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged.
Starting point is 00:36:27 It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotes. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:36:50 or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's good, y'all? You're listening to Learn the Hard Way with your favorite therapist and host Kier Games. This space is about black men's experiences, having honest conversations that it's really not safe to have anywhere, but you're having them with a licensed professional who knows what he's doing. How many men carry a suit or armor. It signals to the world that you're not to be played with. And just because you have the capability that does not mean that you need to.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Listen to learn the hard way on the AHA radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. On the Look Back at a podcast. For 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 is big to me. I'm Sam Jay And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down,
Starting point is 00:37:34 and try to make sense of how we survived it with our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year. It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.
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