The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 01/19/2021 - HOUR 3 - In need of a QB?

Episode Date: January 19, 2021

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Starting point is 00:02:35 January 24th, the deadline. Fox Sports Radio's ultimate tailgate rig sweepstakes. Darrell Moose Johnson, three rings. He was 12 and 4 in 16 playoff games. First fullback ever invited to a Pro Bowl. Now everybody, all those Kyle Shanahan's, they all want their fullbacks now. Fullbacks make money now. How about that?
Starting point is 00:02:58 And Fox Sports NFL analyst, he was doing the Rams Packers game this week, Darrell Moose Johnson, kind enough to join us live now. You know, it's interesting. I was saying yesterday, Green Bay had all these offensive pieces two years ago. And then so the explosion of Aaron Rogers has to be somewhat linked to Matt Lafleur in the offense and the new culture. and when I was watching that game against the Rams, Moose, 71% of the time, Green Bay was in motion. It was so multiple.
Starting point is 00:03:30 And I looked at it and I thought, so this is what Aaron wanted. You know what I mean? Push, push, more. And I just, you talked to him before the game. He just feels so much more challenged and comfortable when I watch Aaron Rogers. Your thoughts? I think he has more ownership in what the construction of that
Starting point is 00:03:49 offense was going to be. And it was kind of cool this week for the first time you kind of heard them say, we've taken the Shanahan McVeigh system and we've made it into our scheme. And that was what the process was after year one through a very challenging off season, be able to do that virtually. But they were able to get to a point where Matt Lefleur, Aaron Rogers, Nathaniel Hackett, everybody's on coach getsy, everybody's on board with what they're doing in this offense. Hey, let's get rid of the things that Matt liked that didn't work. Let's get rid of the things that Aaron liked that didn't work. Let's put our heads together on the things that all three of us really liked and try that. And this is what they've come up with. And I think the confidence he's
Starting point is 00:04:28 playing with because he has ownership and was a part of constructing this offense is one of the big reasons he's playing as well as he is. You know, Moose, last year, I watched them get steamrolled twice by San Francisco physically couldn't answer the bell. I saw him get pushed around by the chargers, you may remember that, they came out west and just got pushed around. Philadelphia, I believe it was last year, early in Lambo. Hit them right in the neck, pushed them right back. And so there was this feeling, at least I had it, is, boy, this team is a ways off. They got to fix this stuff.
Starting point is 00:05:03 And then you watch them this year and you're like, oh, no, they got five offensive pro bowlers. And I'm looking around the NFL right now, and you did the game. I don't see a hole with the Packers. I could argue the Chiefs can't stop the run. The bills don't run. Tampa Special Teams are across your fingers unit. You're watching the Packers. Do you see a weakness today with them?
Starting point is 00:05:26 Because I can't see it. I would go with special teams as well. They were 29th in Rick Gosselin's rankings that came out last week. So there's room for improvement. They talked about it hard in the off week. Let's get back to our fundamentals. Let's make sure we're assignment true. I thought they did a nice job with special teams.
Starting point is 00:05:44 teams. Now, the Rams were not a challenge. They were 30th in Rick's ranking. So they haven't gone up against that third phase that's elite like they're going to see, you know, on Sunday. So, you know, I think if there was any weakness, it would be that. But the areas that I've always, you know, kind of wondered about them, their offensive line is outstanding. Oh, yeah. And John Jenkins and Aaron Donald going at it, you know, that was great to see. There's so much versatility in that front because of some of the injuries that have happened. You know, it's the best offensive line I've seen in Green Bay in some time. And the stability that's, that's come into the linebacker position, one of the small stories that probably won't get a lot of discussion this
Starting point is 00:06:21 week is how effective can Chris Barnes be with that club on his left hand. He heard his thumb in the game and had that cast put on. That'll make a big impact because, you know, Mike Patton, the defensive coordinator told us, you know, his, his emergence really allowed us to take the green dot off of Christian Kirksey and give it to Chris Barnes. And now Christian's playing fast doing the things that we expected him to do. And then they've got Kamal Martin who can go to either side. So there was a stability at the inside linebacker position that happened about the midpoint of the season that kind of coincides with them being able to shut down the run.
Starting point is 00:06:55 So I think that that's going to be one of the things that you'll have to keep an eye on this Sunday when they're going up against Ronald Jones and Fournette. Yeah. And by the way, when Ronald Fournett, I thought, last couple of weeks, Daryl's played really well, very complimentary to a big back to Ronald Jones more explosive style. And I want to talk about
Starting point is 00:07:17 Brady because I, you know, Grong didn't play well. Chris Godwin was off. Mike Evans was stopped. A.B. got hurt. So you can't tell me it's all the weapons that won that game. A lot of it was just the power of influence of Tom and decision making. And there's a little bit
Starting point is 00:07:33 there's a little bit of Akeman to Tom where Tom will deliver uncomfortable news to teammates and sometimes with volume. And that's not, I can remember earlier this year, Tom's barking at guys in Chicago and the media is crushing them and they're like, hey, why don't you worry about yourself? You're 43. But as I was watching that game, you know, I was sitting to myself thinking, Tom has just got a way to frame games as they're going on. And I think Troy definitely had that talent. That it was interesting to me that his weapons really, bait, his tight end was his leading receiver. It was not an ideal
Starting point is 00:08:10 Sunday. It did not work out the way you'd want it in paper. And from what you saw of that game, what were your interpretations of Tom, finally beating the Saints, and, you know, the entire festival for four hours. Yeah, that was the big thing. I'm not a big believer in the idea that it's hard to beat a team three times in one season. If you're the better team, it shouldn't be hard at all. Now, what happened with New Orleans and Tampa Bay is Tampa Bay was growing all season long. New Orleans came out of the gates hot, played really good football. After the breeze injury, things kind of shifted a little bit. And they just weren't playing as good a football in the month of December as Tampa Bay was. So that was the big concern coming into this game.
Starting point is 00:08:49 In my opinion, not because it's hard to beat a team three times in one season, because Tampa Bay was the better team. And you could see that all throughout the month of December. And a lot of that has to do with Tom Brady. He was much more comfortable in the system. He was understanding the subtleties and the nuances of all those playmakers that you just mentioned. And And who would think that Evans on an off day, Godwin on an off day, you know, Grancowski not really a contributor. And yet it's Anthony Miller and Cameron Bray, who are the guys. But that's Tom.
Starting point is 00:09:17 You know, Tom is going to, he's going to go through his progression. He's going to get it to the guy who's supposed to be there. He doesn't force anything. And I think for everybody on Tampa Bay's team, when they come to the sideline, and whether it's the fiery, you know, challenging perspective that you mentioned and he's got to get after some guys on the sideline or just that calm, confident demeanor, because he's been they've done that a number of times and there's nothing to worry about. I think what he brings to the sideline of Tampa Bay is irreplaceable.
Starting point is 00:09:43 So, you know, I think that they're dangerous right now. And we had them late in the year. And we saw how well they played offensively compared to when we saw them earlier in the year. And we were all in our group. We're like, wow, you know, this is going to be a dangerous team when we get the playoff time. And I can't wait for the game on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:10:00 I think it's going to be, I think it's going to be outstanding because you can talk about the weather and everything that goes on there. but the guy controlling the football on every snap, you know, comes from an area where he's used to play in the cold and the wind and the snow. So that's not going to be all that big a deal for Tom. And I'm sure he'll have all of his teammates in that same frame of mind. You played in four conference championships, Daryl, and you were three in one. And Tom's been there before and Aaron's been there before. And Mahomes has been there before.
Starting point is 00:10:30 And the bills haven't. And I can, I've talked to players about this. They're like, you know, there's regular season games. And then, you know, you need to playoff games. And then conference championship games, this is the world. The league is watching, everything riding on it. And I look at Buffalo this weekend and I'm like, oh, boy, this is a big step. This is a big step up.
Starting point is 00:10:55 And I also think they're probably roster-wise, maybe the least talented team. going back on your conference championships, did you ever get matched up against the team? And you just felt like we've been here before, they haven't been here before, and did it matter? Unfortunately, no, because it was always us in San Francisco or us in Green Bay. So, you know, everybody had been there.
Starting point is 00:11:21 So we never felt like we had an advantage. I think that first time we played San Francisco, there were a lot of people in the football world that felt we were still a year away. You know, it was still San Francisco's conference. for instance, to rule. You know, we were the youngest team in the NFL at that time. And maybe that was a good thing.
Starting point is 00:11:36 We didn't know what we were walking into. I mean, that was an incredibly talented roster. And I tell people all the time, that was the best game. I think that that group played as a team in all three phases. We were plus four turnover margin and we were still hanging on at the end of that game to win. So once we had that one under our belts, then there was a tremendous amount of confidence. Even when we went out to San Francisco and fell behind 21-0 in that championship. game. You know, we just, we felt we could get back into it and we could just never get inside
Starting point is 00:12:06 double digits. We couldn't, we couldn't go from 13 to 7. We couldn't, you know, we could get inside a 10. If we ever would have gotten that lead down to single digits, I think that not only would we have had the confidence that we could have finished that, there would have been some, some doubt in San Francisco. You know, our third championship, or our last championship game against Green Bay, you know, we were down 14, you know, late third, early fourth quarter. So again, that confidence, our abilities to come back and even with Brett Farr of leading that team, you know, you've got that been there, done that. So we've had both experiences. And it's going to be interesting, in my opinion, to see how Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills do. Because like you
Starting point is 00:12:44 pointed out, that maybe not as talented across the board as the other three, a young quarterback that's trying to prove himself to all the other quarterbacks in the NFL on that big stage. I'm really excited to see Josh Allen play. I know Sean McDermott's going to have him ready. He's he's an outstanding coach defensively. You know, Kansas City better be ready to play. That's going to be a physical game on that side of the ball. And that, that to me is going to tip
Starting point is 00:13:10 it. You know, I think that the bills will be able to score some points, but it's how does Buffalo's defense slow Patrick Mahomes down and how well is Patrick Mahomes going to be able to play. Yeah. Moose, great talking to you. As always, Fox Sports NFL analyst. Have a great rest of the week, and we'll talk soon. Thank you,
Starting point is 00:13:26 sir. You got it, Colin. Take care. Yeah, it's I honestly feel like Green Bay right now is playing the best. Buffalo is the hottest, but the least talented team left. And then Kansas City has the highest ceiling, but unlike Green Bay, they're not doing it as consistently. And Tampa Bay has got a puncher's chance, but I feel like they're a little, they've met their ceiling. But of all the teams, they've all got kind of an issue. boy, Green Bay is just rolling.
Starting point is 00:14:01 And it's interesting with Green Bay. I said this last week. There's always this perception. It's Aaron Rogers sort of pulling the franchise. Their offensive line is stacked. Pro Bowl receiver. Pro Bowl running back. Three Pro Bowl offensive linemen.
Starting point is 00:14:19 A tight end that should be a Pro Bowl or 11 touchdowns. Pro Bowl or Kenny Clark. Adrian Amos, Safe. two good linebackers. Green Bay is a stacked roster. An absolutely more talented roster than the Rams' past weekend. I think it's more talented than Tampa's,
Starting point is 00:14:38 but I think the margin shrink a little bit. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes,
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Starting point is 00:18:09 Open your free, Our Heart Radio app. Search Learn the Hardway and listen now. Joy Taylor with the news. No, no, no, no, turn on the news. This is the herd line news. It's no secret to Sean Watson is unhappy with the Texans organization right. now. He's not officially asked for a trade yet, but teams have reportedly been calling the Texans to ask about him anyway. Okay, so they have. Yes, despite the fact that the new GM, Nick Casario is saying Deshaun is their quarterback. According to Fox Bet, if he is traded, the Jets are the favorite to have him on their week one roster next season. These are just the odds if he
Starting point is 00:18:49 is moved. Yeah, you know, throw those up again. I actually agree with all these. Jets are the best than the Bears, Broncos, Colts, and Patriots are tied at plus 800. See, you know, John Elway can say what he wants. Trulock has had like, we got how many starts for Drewlock? He's completing 55% of his throws. I think most people are going to take Deshawn Watson over Drewlock if they can make the hot. This guy's completing almost 70% of his throws, and I get all the athleticism. I get all the upside, and he's accurate.
Starting point is 00:19:20 I love Deshaun Watson. I wish that the Texans were able to put pieces around him. to allow him to be successful there. And I wish they hadn't completely botched this transition situation as well. Because as Jay Slate said earlier, and as we've been saying all week, don't make promises you can't keep. You had no need to tell Deshawn Watson that he was going to be involved.
Starting point is 00:19:40 You did, and then you didn't involve him. And now everything you're doing is just seeming like you're making it up. It doesn't feel authentic. Yeah, that's what Anne and I argue about the most. What? I'll say something over a cocktail. I get a little loose. And then she'll say, well, you said last night,
Starting point is 00:19:54 And I said, that wasn't a promise. That was just gin talking. You know, you get a, you get, what happens is you have a, you have a margarita. Mm-hmm. And you get a little loose. Yeah. And Anne will interpret that as, well, you said last night, we were going to do this. Yeah, I do that except for, it's for, it's for making plans.
Starting point is 00:20:11 So you make a, don't trust me if I make plans if I've had a cocktail. I don't mean it. I'm not coming. I do that all the time. So you say, oh, see you next. Oh, yeah. Like, oh, it's totally this weekend. We'll get together.
Starting point is 00:20:21 We'll do this. And you don't. I'm lying to you. Yeah. It's not true. I'm not going. The NFL has informed teams that the format for the combine is changing this year. There will be no in-person workouts.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Wow. Instead, they will take place at the college's pro days. The leaks that it would work with schools to have consistency in the drills and the testing it takes place with each organization having access to the videos of the workouts. All interviews and psychological testing will be virtual and there will be limited in-person medical exams later in the spring. Schools will also be asked to conduct virtual media availability with combine invitees to help promote the players. NFL Network just lost a week of their programming because that's like a big deal for them. This is a very big deal. This is especially big deal for any players that opted out because if you weren't a player that was automatically or presumed to be drafted high and then opted out,
Starting point is 00:21:19 you're trying to make a, you would have needed to make a splash this year if you're one of those. those lower level players and a lot of players pop at the combine or have great 40s or great performances and it puts them kind of on the radar or raises their draft stock. This is going to be a little difficult. They're going to rely a lot on tape from games this year, I imagine. I mean, the combine doesn't play, I don't think it plays as big of a role for most players as people think it does. Like I think the tape kind of matters more.
Starting point is 00:21:51 The combine matters and I think the interviews matter. but it's all just like a piece of the puzzle. I think it just hurts lower level players and players who opted out more. I would say, I mean, I think it's the senior bowl is the same thing. It's not everything, but it's a good 15%. If you have a great senior bowl, there's no, listen, Justin Herbert was the best player at the senior bowl.
Starting point is 00:22:15 And everybody. No, it definitely matters. There's a reason why they go. I know somebody that saw him at the senior bowl and went, okay, this is going to work in the NFL. Well, you're around all the best players. And you're dominating them? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:25 You're like, okay, he's going to work. You're not playing for, you know, a championship, but you're playing amongst the best players in college football. I do think this will help with the interviews, though, because now since everything is virtual, it'll help kids to be a little more comfortable. Like sometimes when you're, especially like you're younger, you're in your first, like, really big interview.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Oh, of course. You get, you know, you're nervous, obviously, and which is completely understandable. You're talking to head coaches and coordinators and, you know, it's a lot. So I think that that part actually will be. will be easier for these guys. So the Warriors rallied from a 14-point fourth quarter deficit to beat the Lakers 1-15-113 last night.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Good NBA last night. Steph Curry had a game high 26 points with eight coming in that last quarter. LeBron did have a chance to get the win for L.A. in the final seconds, but he missed the three-pointer. Steph has been playing incredible. They have their seventh win of the season. Watch this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:19 I think Steph. Kelly Ubrae Jr. has been great for them as well, 23 points. last night. Weisman's actually going to be a really good player. He's bizarrely long. Wiseman just needs time.
Starting point is 00:23:31 He was the most talented player in the draft. We just didn't know how long before he was good. And this is a perfect landing spot for me. So the Lakers have dropped to 11 and 4. There's still a half game ahead of the Clippers for first in the West and the Warriors are 7 and 6th. 7th in the West. Steph is starting to get a little drumbeat
Starting point is 00:23:49 for MVP. If they're consistent throughout the year with this, see that happening, but he's playing great. It just, you know, it makes you all the more sad that Clay is not out there because Steph is looking incredible. I know. Wiseman's a good draft pick, though. It's going to work. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. To quarterback or not to quarterback? That, of course, is the question. We look at the draft board. Who do I think we'll take a quarterback today? A lot of discussions about the Jets going out and getting Watson,
Starting point is 00:24:25 Houston then getting their number two pick. We'll talk about that coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all,
Starting point is 00:24:48 embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th.
Starting point is 00:25:10 You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment. And the next, we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast.
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Starting point is 00:26:44 So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games. And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking. Trip Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we
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Starting point is 00:28:08 Supplement I take every morning, powerful ingredients back by science. Go to mDrive from N.com. Today, it's good to have you in. So it's very interesting. You've got all sorts of teams. We're looking at quarterbacks. And in Best for Last, we're going to play a game today, Joy. It's called to quarterback or not to quarterback.
Starting point is 00:28:28 To QB or not QB? That is the question, whether tis nobler in the mind of cowherd. All right, Jaguars, to QB or not to QB? To quarterback. Okay, you got Urban Meyer. He's dealt with Alex Smith. He worked with Cam Newton at Florida. He's dealt with Joe Burrow at Ohio State.
Starting point is 00:28:51 He's very good. Alex Smith, Tebow. He knows the young quarterback game. He's been great with it. This is a perfect fit for him. Urban Meyer more than anything is known as taking quarterbacks, developing them to the next level. It's a great fit.
Starting point is 00:29:09 All right, Jets, to QB or not to QB? I would QB. Robert Sal is the new coach. The reality here is, want a fresh start. I think Sam Darnold needs a fresh start. I think Joe Douglas wants his own guy. Now, it may be a Deshawn Watson over a Justin Fields move, and we know Sala and Dishon Watson are fans of each other. But my guess is if I ran the Jets right now, this is no shot, but I've given Sam a couple of coaches, probably not going to give him a third. And according
Starting point is 00:29:40 to reports, you can get a second round pick for Sam Darnold. I'd probably move on. The dolphins to QB or not to QB? Well, I would use the pick and I would get a quarterback. And my reasoning is you've also got the 18th pick. So you can keep rebuilding that offensive line. I don't see the juice with Tua. If he throws off platform, he doesn't have the arm strength. I know he's got a winning record and I know their GM and their coach like him.
Starting point is 00:30:06 And I get it, there are things to like. But when I look in that division and I look at a potential, Deshawn Watson's with the Jets and Josh Allen's with the bills. I don't think you can have a quarterback deficit minimum four times a year in your division. He would be at best, the third best quarterback in the division. I'd go get a quarterback with that third pick. Falcons, to QB, not to QB. Actually, not to QB.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Matt Ryan's 35. I just watched 43-year-old Tom Brady chop it up. He's got two huge years left on his contract. And also, I don't know if Arthur Smith is going to work as a head coach. I don't know. But I do think it's fair to finally give Matt Ryan an offensive head coach. He's had several defensive head coaches. Let's give him an offensive guy.
Starting point is 00:30:58 You can't get rid of his contract for two years anyway. And by the way, he's not a disaster. Matt wins the games. Their offense is not the problem. They had the worst past defense in the league. They're scoring points. That's not their issue. she was the other side of the ball.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Bengals to QB, not to QB. That's an easy one, not to QB. I thought their question is, is Zach Taylor the right coach? Could be, could not be. Joe Burrell's the right quarterback. I thought he was way better than expected. I projected he'd be a Tony Romo. I think he's a better version of Tony Romo,
Starting point is 00:31:30 and I defended Romo for years, no quarterback. Eagles. Not the quarterback. You got two of them. One of them's got to work. He already, you know, by drafting Jalen Hertz, you already made Carson Wentz insecure. So you got rid of the coach.
Starting point is 00:31:45 We don't need to go down the quarterback. Jalen Hertz is shown he can win games. Carson wins his show he can win games. Go get a coach like Josh McDaniels and figure it out. Don't add another guy to the room. You got talent. Figure out which one you want to keep. The Detroit Lions to QB or not to QB.
Starting point is 00:31:59 So I went back and forth on this. And I'm going to say, first of all, how old is Matt Stafford guess? Because I was shocked. 33? Good guess. He's 32. I thought he was like 34. He's 32. He's really talented. Their issues are they're terrible defensively. I think I'd stick with Stafford. I think I'd give him another run with another
Starting point is 00:32:25 coaching staff. I could make an argument today. He's your first or second most talented player. You're not in the business of trading if you're the Detroit Lions, getting rid of your most talented players. I would not quarterback. I'd stay with Stafford. How about the Panthers? See, this is an easy one. This is an easy one. Quarterback. Why? Teddy Bridgewater is the classic Alex Smith.
Starting point is 00:32:50 You can win a bunch of games as you rebuild. But go get a Zach Wilson. Go get somebody that's not quite ready. Keep rebuilding. Again, I thought Carolina losing McCaffrey was still a tough out. Bridgewater is the classic quarterback you want when you draft a quarterback and don't want to play him for two years. Don't get a bunch of ego. he plays quarterback the smart way.
Starting point is 00:33:13 He makes the quarterback room smarter. So whoever you bring into that room, it's a master's class on how to quarterback in the NFL. So to me, Carolina is, and by the way, as you recall, last year, they all went defense on the draft. So let's go address the quarterback. We're in no hurry to make it work. But what we are in a hurry is that kid to get in a room with Bridgewater,
Starting point is 00:33:34 soak up the information. That's what Mahomes did with Alex Smith for a year. We play in a year or two. You're ready to go. The Broncos to QB or not to QB. To QB. I don't buy the Drew Locke thing. He's not my cup of Joe, a little too hip for the room.
Starting point is 00:33:49 By the way, worst completion percentage among all qualified quarterback. This is my knock. He's too casual for me. I don't know if you can coach out of that. It's very J. Cutler. It's just kind of like, hey, when you watch the great quarterbacks, you can sense the urgency. You can feel it with Brady.
Starting point is 00:34:08 They're always just a little irritated. With even like an incomplete butt, Drew is like, hey, it's not the NBA dude. 50% doesn't work on shots. He was a very good basketball player. He's too casual for me. I'm moving on and getting a quarterback. The Dallas Cowboys. Not to quarterback.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Listen, you're not going to. My issue with DAC is the money. Dak can win games. I just worried that paying him $37 million, you've really closed the door. on your championships. But, you know, roll with Dak. They're not moving off him. I like Dak. I don't like his contract, but I like him. He is productive. The New York Giants. Not to quarterback. One more year of Daniel Jones. He's got a fumble issue. I did think he had a sense of urgency as the year progressed. He had a game this year where he really lost it for him
Starting point is 00:35:05 with fumbles. And I think there was kind of a moment, an epiphany for Daniel Jones. He, He's only 23. He only had one pick in his last six games. Barkley missed the entire year. He didn't have a ton to work with offensively in terms of skill people. Evan Ingram's good, but not as reliable. I think you have to draft a wide receiver, give him one more year in the system. And if it doesn't work with Jason Garrett, then you move on.
Starting point is 00:35:31 But he is 23. You can't lose a superstar running back and not take a step back. The 49ers. Really hard. I've gone back and forth. I'd probably say no. Listen, there's 7 and 26 when Garoppolo doesn't play. And they've got a Super Bowl roster.
Starting point is 00:35:52 So what I think you do is if you can't engineer a deal, you play Garoppolo and you just keep your eye. You know, this sounds crazy, but do you engineer a deal for Darnold at some point, maybe at the trading deadline? Let's say you go through the course of a season. You have Garapolo. He's playing and you're winning.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Because if he plays, they win. And at the trading deadline, you know, you call up a team and you make a deal. But I always go back to this. As great as Kyle Shanahan is, there's 7 and 26 when he doesn't play. So you could quarterback here, but you don't have a good enough draft pick to get a top three or four quarterback. Yeah, so why? So I'm not sure, unless you want to swap Stafford for him, I just don't think there's anything on the market available that wins like Garoppolo wins.
Starting point is 00:36:40 And Jimmy G. knows the system. He know, you're going to start week one. He knows what he's doing. The Los Angeles Chargers. No, let's get over it. Justin Herbert's great.
Starting point is 00:36:51 The Vikings. No, simply because two years left on the contract, the cap hits over 30 million. They're screwed. Like, there's nothing they can do. So, first of all,
Starting point is 00:37:09 they have massive. needs defensively. They have the number 14 picks, so what are you getting? Cousins is clearly, he's Derek Carr. You win a lot of games with Kirk Cousins. If you go look at their issues this year, they couldn't stop people.
Starting point is 00:37:24 They were losing close games early. Kirk's not the issue. But you can't quarterback at this point because you're stuck with him. Mike Zimmer's a defensive coach. You've got to be able to, if you start looking at their defense, they had the fewest sacks in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:37:40 They had 23. You have got to get a pass rusher. This draft has about three of them early. Get a pass rusher. Live with Kirk Cousins. You're not a championship team, but you're in a bad space with him. The Patriots. To quarterback.
Starting point is 00:37:56 They need. And what's interesting. Zach Wilson, I'd even think about moving up a little bit. They're just not dynamic enough. So they have to engineer either a trade. they've got to find like I'll tell you the team that Tray Lance is the kid from Dakota all I've seen him is on YouTube I don't watch their games
Starting point is 00:38:15 he didn't play this year when you watch him play you're like oh that's New England that's exactly what they need a kid that can move get out they need a lot everybody keeps saying Mac Jones Alabama that's not what they need they don't need a distributor yeah I keep hearing Mac Jones too
Starting point is 00:38:32 it's like that's not what they need they need a playmaker and they brought Cam in for a year so they experimented with that offense To me, Trey Lance, that's exactly what they need. And they need the quarterback. To quarterback or not, to quarterback, most life-changing sleep is available. It is called Casper Mattress, 86 supportive gel pods.
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Starting point is 00:39:03 I believe so. There's also that thing. We'll talk about it later. There's just stuff. Sometimes you get up, you're feisty. You're spicy, right? It is. When you get a good night's sleep, you feel like, you know.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Take the world on. Yeah. I can handle it today. Yeah. You ever have one of those days, Goulet, when you're spicy, when you really feel it, when you really want to punch the sky? You ever have one of those? I work for you, so, yes.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Okay. All right. Well, I know it was the easiest guy to work with. That's okay. All right. So I think the lead story in America today is the Deshaun Watson stuff. reportedly, Joy said it earlier, teams are calling the Texans. So if they're doing it, and I think this is one of those rare deals, it gets done fast.
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