The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 02/02/2021 - HOUR 3 - Tom Brady The Beloved Superstar, Trent Dilfer and Danny Amendola

Episode Date: February 2, 2021

In this hour of The Herd with Colin Cowherd, Colin welcomes in Super Bowl champion and NFL analyst Trent Dilfer and he discusses the NFL’s best all-time play callers. Free agent wide receiver Danny ...Amendola also stops in and talks about how hard it was to leave New England and his lasting friendship with former Patriot teammate Tom Brady. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:18 Find your local station for the herd at Fox Sports Radio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Herd. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Trent Delfar, Super Bowl, Pro Bowl played in the NFL for 15 years. I covered him when he played in Tampa. He has been around a long time, and he is now joining us live in Nashville, where he's the football coach at Lipscomb Academy. You know, Tampa is such a funny place because they've had so much dysfunction. They've had a lot of great players.
Starting point is 00:02:53 You can't dispute that. They've had Leroy Selmans, the Saps, Warwick Dunn. But it was always just a little loose, you know, just. It was a little loose. Maybe the front office wasn't right of the roster. And then Tom comes in and cinches it all up. You know, I was saying this week, there are some things I look at after that Saints loss and I thought, this just isn't right.
Starting point is 00:03:16 It's just not right. And then something happened. And I don't know exactly what it was. What was your moment with Tampa that you kind of bought in? Because it was real late for me, like maybe three weeks ago. mine was maybe a little earlier than that but all the boring stuff started coming into play you could tell that after that seven and five start they had the buy week and and bruce aaron's even said it last week after the game one man right one man kind of just
Starting point is 00:03:45 changed the moral authority of the locker room and started speaking up on all the boring little things that actually equal wins their special teams got better you know it's yesterday in the press conference tom was asked about kansas city and all the qualities they had. And the second thing he mentioned was the kicking game. Like he values the kicking game. So all of a sudden, Tampa's kicking game gets better. Their coverage teams get better.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Fill positions better. Protection. 20% more six, seven man protections, more play action, running the ball more. Let's be more committed to the run. And then you got to imagine that just in the course of the culture, there was a lot of little things that may have been slacking that he's like, listen, guys, the way we do small things, the way we do all things. So a guy like Tom Brady, he's not just the greatest player that's ever played,
Starting point is 00:04:32 but he's the greatest moral authority of locker rooms ever had. And he can immediately start interjecting his point of view, his perspective, and all the pelt's on the wall in how you run your program. And I think all that stuff helped them start changing who they were, changing their identity, and then all those small things start adding up into wins. Next to you know you're 7 and 0, and you're playing in the Super Bowl. Yeah. We were talking off the air, and I'm going to set you up for this. You like Tampa more than most. A lot of the media people, I'm one of them. I just kind of feel like, boy, this Kansas City team's won 25 of 26, and you've got to pick your poison and the big play.
Starting point is 00:05:12 You can play them smart, and they hit you for two big plays. And San Francisco outplayed them 75% of the game last year and lost. And that was a team of the great lineup. But what is the way Tampa is going to win? Like in your mind, wrap your head around some stuff that we could see that you think is very highly probable. Well, and it's a brutal pick. I'm not a betting man. I wouldn't bet on this one. I think Kansas City is so hard to bet against because their floor is so high, right? They can play bad and still beat you.
Starting point is 00:05:42 They can play bad for three quarters of the game and still beat you. So for that reason, if I had to make a pick, I would go with Kansas City to win the game because they don't have to be at all cylinders. they'll be firing all cylinders to beat you. But you can think of from the football sense a million reasons why Tampa could win this game. I think it starts with the line of scrimmage. Like this time of year we're always talking about the flash and sizzle, all the sexy things of football.
Starting point is 00:06:07 But you go into the buildings and they're talking about line of scrimmage playing, front seven play and the old school things that actually win consistently. And you look at Tampa's front seven, especially the front four versus an offensive line that's going to be missing two, starters and you're like the defensive line alone could simply ruin this game for Kansas City. And then people go, oh yeah, but Mahomes is magical. Yes, he is. But they're at their best when he's only only has to be magical four, six, seven times a game. He may have to be
Starting point is 00:06:38 magical 15 to 25 times a game if they can't block Tampa. I would think in the course of that with him moving around and playing off platform and throwing the ball sidearm and no look and all the things he does when it's chaotic that he's also going to make a couple of mistakes. And if you make a couple of mistakes, whether it's a strip sack, whether it's a ball bounces off a guy because he's not looking, a ball's overthrown and a safety
Starting point is 00:07:01 catches it, two of those when you're giving them all back to Tom Brady and this explosive offense can cost you the game. So if one position group could ruin this game for the other team, it's Tampa's defensive line could absolutely ruin this game for Kansas City.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Yeah, I want to talk about something we're seeing in the NFL. I saw a story yesterday. Kyle Shanahan, considering a trade Kirk Cousins for Garoppolo and the Rams bailed on Jared Goff. You know, we're a year removed from a Super Bowl from Garoppel and two years or so
Starting point is 00:07:34 removed three years from Goff. And we just, is it because football's now worth so much money? People don't have patience. I mean, it did look like Goff struggled with confidence. Like when you saw that move, Stafford Goff, what did it say to you the Rams bailed on a kit they used six picks to get him
Starting point is 00:07:52 and three more to bail on him and they still paid him I mean what did it say to you? My head's spinning a little bit I just think it's fascinating how the NFL wins like we'll get into this but at the end of the day
Starting point is 00:08:05 the NFL wins because you're leading your shows the worldwide leaders leading their shows everybody's leading their shows with the NFL and it's going to continue it's going to be quarterbacks
Starting point is 00:08:14 or the draft nobody's talking about the NBA nobody's talking about golf Nobody's talking about hockey. Maybe we're talking about quarterbacks. Quarterbacks are on the move. And then there's a trickle-down effect, right? We had Stafford, Gough, where's Deshaun going? Where's D'Shaun going to go?
Starting point is 00:08:27 Where's Sam Donald going to go? Now Trevor Lawrence versus Justin Fields. Oh, what about Wilson from BYU? Where is that dominoffield? Oh, Tua. We got to talk about Tua. Is he going to be the quarterback in Miami, or is he going to be the quarterback in Houston? And the NFL wins.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Park City wins over and over because it's Park Avenue, excuse me, because we're talking about this. Yeah. And the golf, Stafford thing is mind-boggling. It really is, to a certain degree, for all the reasons you said. And nobody, everyone says, who won, who lost? Because we have to have a winner. We have to have a loser.
Starting point is 00:09:00 And I'm sent back going, can the answer be both? Can both win? I can give you a really good argument to why the Rams, it's justifiable for the Rams to do this. They definitely get an upgrade with a quarterback that has better movement qualities. they're going to be more explosive offensively. He's going to play in muddy waters a little bit better. I think he's going to challenge the coaching staff.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Now think about Matt Stafford going in with Kevin O'Connell's one of the best young coaches in all of football. Sean McVeigh, who obviously has pelts on the wall already young age. But now they're talking to a peer. Now they're talking to a dude that has a lot of pelts on the wall that's played offense a lot of different ways. That's had a lot of fourth quarter comebacks. That has strong opinions on what he likes to do and what he doesn't like to do. It's going to challenge the coaching staff. I think that's going to make them better.
Starting point is 00:09:48 I think they're going to be a better offense with Matthew Stafford. But Gerald Gough was one in 10. Cal was one in 10 when Jared Gough got there. He's not a stranger to rebuilds. Now he feels appreciated. They have extra picks. They have Anthony Lynn, Dan Campbell combination, which is going to be old school, hard nose, run the football,
Starting point is 00:10:06 and then play action. I mean, I think there's a lot of things where you can say, you know what? Both won. And that's okay. I know that's not play. correctly correct at any level to say they're both can win. We always have to have a winner and a loser these days. But I think in this situation, both won. You know, I had Andy Reid on earlier, a great play designer. You know, I said, you know, Walsh was known, Sean Peyton. I don't think of the NFL, I don't think of great play designers very often. I don't. I just don't. I should. You think there's a lot of great ones out there? Oh, no, I think the great ones differentiate themselves really quick. You know, I think that they're set apart.
Starting point is 00:10:47 So Andy Reid, is he the best? He's one of the best. I put Sean Payton there. There's other great one. Sean McVeigh is a very good one. I think Lefleur is a very good one. This new generation, I think, puts a lot more emphasis on it. Here's what I always say, when you get your contacts, when your sources and their coaches tell you,
Starting point is 00:11:05 oh, we all run the same stuff. We're all designed the same place. Immediately, I'd probably stop listening to that person. Because there is definitely a. upper crust of football minds that fit their personnel with play designs that put more conflict on the defense and make the position easier to play for the quarterback. And the only people nodding their heads right now are those elite play callers and all those quarterbacks and offensive players that have experienced that.
Starting point is 00:11:35 There is just such a gap between your average offensive play designer and your elite play designer. And the quarterbacks that are going to the Hall of Fame, the quarterbacks that consistently throw 40 touchdowns a year and put up mind-boggling numbers, they usually benefit from those elite play callers. It's why there's so much theft in the NFL, play theft. You see so many coaches that don't have the creative mind to come up with their new way of doing things that's elite. So what they do is they go to tape because we'll have access to the same tape and they study the Andy Reeves. they study the Sean Payton's. I remember Mike Marks. Mike Mark's one of the greatest play designers of all time.
Starting point is 00:12:18 And you started seeing him come in the league, and you started seeing these things the Rams were doing. And then all of a sudden, every team was trying to do them. But they didn't do them quite as well because they didn't know the why behind them. And then you talked to the Kurt Warner's, the Trent Greens, the Isaac Bruce's, Marshall Falk, who knows as much football as anybody on the planet. And they start telling you the why their version of it worked, but yet our version didn't work wherever I was playing at the time.
Starting point is 00:12:45 We didn't know the why. We didn't know the genesis of the play. We didn't know the exact nuts and bolts behind it and what came out of the lab with it. So you're looking at, let's call it 20 on the Mount Rushmore of the best play callers of all time. And then there's about 500 that sit notches below them. And that's why they have mediocre offenses. Yeah, Trent Daufer is joining us. Lipscomb Academy head football coach in Nashville,
Starting point is 00:13:11 Tennessee, a great place to live. Good seeing you on Super Bowl Week, Trent. Appreciate it. Thanks, brother. I saw it so long winner with those answers. You got me fired up today, baby. No, I love it. Thanks. I love having you on the show. By the way, Trent, for years and years talked about coaching, and my guess
Starting point is 00:13:27 he's going to stay in it for a while. He has had great success. But I will say this about Andy Reid, is they do stuff that you've never seen. And it's not Andy's unique. He didn't have a system. They just do plays that nobody's seen. Like, McVeigh, the Rams always look the same. they have a system. I can look at a game and go. That's that's Sean McVey's footprint. With Andy,
Starting point is 00:13:47 not really. He's just, he just kind of doesn't have a system. He just, here's my personnel and I'm going to change it. Right now he's got the fastest receiver and the best tight end. So he's got a surplus of speed. So he builds an offense based on speed and a quarterback that can move around with a huge arm. So they do a lot of over-the-top stuff. I never felt in Philadelphia. They did that as often because they didn't have a guy with that arm. They didn't have speed wide receiver in Philly. Well, I think that's a sign of a great leader and coach, though. Yes. That you're flexible and that you understand your personnel.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Of course, yeah. And put them in positions to do what they do best. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds.
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Starting point is 00:18:06 This is the Herd Line News. Tom Brady has said many times that it was his goal to play football until he was 45 years old. Seems old. He's 43 and he's about to play in another Super Bowl, but he's open to extending his career even further. I would definitely consider that. And, you know, again, I think, again, it's a physical sport and just the perspective I have on that is, you know, you never know kind of when, you know, that moment is. just because it's a contact sport and there's a lot of training that goes into it
Starting point is 00:18:40 and again it has to be 100% commitment from myself to keep doing it. I don't know when that time will come but I think I'll know. We have an obsession with asking Tom Brady when he's going to retire. He looks happy. He's tan. His skin is glowing.
Starting point is 00:18:57 It's easy. He looks younger, weirdly. He does. When you go, when you live in a cold weather place and you just deal with it. And then you go live in a warm place. It's so much harder to go back to the cold place. Correct.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Like he lived in New England forever. Now he's jet ski Tom. Jet ski Tom is living a different life. And he said twice this year, oh God, I could never go back. But it's like that was who he was just a year ago. I mean, he was living up there in January. One year ago today, he's living in Foxborough, which had 15 feet of snow this week.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Some people are wired that way. They like the seasons. Yeah, I like the warm one. James Harrison still lives in Pittsburgh, and he likes the seasons. I like looking at the seasons on pictures on Instagram. Yes, right. But I prefer seasonless existence.
Starting point is 00:19:48 I'm the same one. It's just like sunshine and nice weather every day. But everyone's different. When you get older, though, it definitely does matter. My grandmother used to say she always knew when it was going to rain because all of her, like, knees started aching. Yeah. There's something to it.
Starting point is 00:20:01 But if he wins this Super Bowl, though. Oh, God. Monday's headlines. I don't even know what I'm. Amazing, but like, it's similar to like the Bradley Bill situation we were just talking about. Like, we can't put our aspirations onto other people. But, like, it feels like, you just go out on top. Like, it's just the perfect storybook ending.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Oh, he'd not quit. But because it's Tom, we know that's not what he's going to do. Yeah. No, I mean, like, like LeBron James. NBA careers don't look like LeBron's. He should be done. But LeBron's whole thing is, I'm fun, I'm getting paid a lot. It's also still a best player.
Starting point is 00:20:35 And we're winning. Like, I don't know. I think what's happened in America due to nutrition and training, 43 is 38, and in the NBA, 36, is 31. Well, still outliers. I still think Brady and Barb are major outliers. But, like, I could see someone like Russell Wilson. I could see Aaron Rogers, you know, some of the top tier guys playing well into their 40s.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Yeah, I mean, Aaron's. And it not being, and not looking like their deterioration. But it's just like we always want things to just be sewn up in this perfect little package. Like we all thought he was going to end his career with the Patriots. And now he's with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers playing in a Super Bowl. Like who would have seen this coming? I mean, him probably. You know, listen, everybody, you know, every year I think we've hit a saturation point.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Like only three teams need quarterbacks. But the reality is it feels like every year we replace seven coaches and eight quarterbacks. Every year. So the Chiefs have plenty of offensive weapons. you did your top 10 list of the Super Bowl, best players. Travis Kelsey, obviously very dangerous. Another talented tight end playing on Sunday is Rob Grankowski. And he thinks that Kelsey is the player to watch on Kansas City's offense.
Starting point is 00:21:43 I think he's, you know, the best player in the Chief's offense. What's one thing that's very intriguing about Travis Kels? And I never really seen this with any other player in the NFL ever before. is that Kels gets better every single year that I've seen him play in the NFL. What he has done for the position of the tight end, like I can only have respect for that. He has Kelsey from 2016 to 2020, has had over 1,000 yards receiving,
Starting point is 00:22:19 scored at least four touchdowns, and made the Pro Bowl in each season. He has 105 receptions, a little over 1,400 yards, and 11 touchdowns all career. this season. Just hard to guard. I mean, it's, when I go back to my childhood, I remember the Raiders had a
Starting point is 00:22:36 tight end named Dave Casper. And I remember, I don't even remember, I grew up with the Seattle Seahawks. I don't remember our tight ends. And believe me, I had the roster memorized. I remember Steve Hutchison on the offensive line and Steve Largent. I don't remember the Seahawk tight ends.
Starting point is 00:22:51 There were teams that literally didn't use tight end. The Raiders had Dave Casper. The Steelers had Benny Cunningham. They didn't use him a ton. They didn't have to. They had Franco and Lynn and Stallworth. And then you started getting into a generation of like, Kellynne Winslow, Ozzie News, and we're like,
Starting point is 00:23:05 oh, these guys are real athletes. They don't just block. But now we've reached the point where, like Gronk says, is that the best football player on the team? Well, the tight end positions, just to your point, developed so much that they are, and Gromk played a big role in this. And we've seen, obviously, amazing tight ends over the years.
Starting point is 00:23:22 But Gronk was so big and so fast and so dominant There was just no one that could tackle him. How about this? The Patriots at one point had Aaron Hernandez and Gronk. Aaron was the fastest tied in. I just watched that documentary. A sad, sad story. Aaron was the ultimate chess piece.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Literally, I remember asking Patrick Chung, former Patriot one time, who's the best player in the league? He goes, he's on my team. I practice against him every day. Aaron Hernandez. He goes, he's faster than me. I'm a safety. How is he faster than me?
Starting point is 00:23:52 Yeah. And then they had Gronk. And so teams now often have, look at Cleveland. David and Joku and Austin Hooper. They have two great tight ends. I mean, it changes the game, especially if you can block. It's an additional offensive line. Chelsea's not a great blocker, but he's okay.
Starting point is 00:24:07 He's fine. Well, the Cardinals had a very up and down 20-20 season, finished on a sour note, losing five of their last seven games. And Kyle Murray explained that the team's unpredictable performance is why he thinks they struggled. He said, you just didn't know which team you were getting. That comes down to us being inconsistent organizations that win they do everything right.
Starting point is 00:24:25 I've said how do you do anything is how you do everything. We've got to get to the point where we do everything the right way. We don't take any stuff for granted. I think that'll change the narrative or feel around the organization. Well, he was better this year than last. So the bottom line is he's in a really tough division. They were inconsistent. But he was better.
Starting point is 00:24:43 There's no question he was better. How much longer does Cliff Kingsbury have? About a year. He's 13, 18, and one. One more year. I think so, too. I think if they have another disappointing season, or don't take a significant step up this year.
Starting point is 00:24:57 It could be... Listen, it's not like he walked into an easy place to coach. Pete Carroll twice, Sean McVeigh twice, Kyle Shanahan twice. You get no breathers. Every week you're facing a top five coach in the league. Yeah, I mean, life's not fair. I know, but it's just like brutal. No, I get it.
Starting point is 00:25:13 I'm just saying we are very impatient with everything now. Kyler Murray is still a young quarterback on his rookie deal. Like, how much longer do you have there to get things going? The division is the division. Obviously, we know, but you have your quarterback. back now. I think they have to take a significant step up next season. Yeah, they're not rebuilding, but they still need. I mean, they got a great safety in Buda Baker. They're good at wide receiver. Offensive line was actually better than Arizona's
Starting point is 00:25:40 offensive line actually improved. It kind of feels like a little bit like an Anthony Lynn situation, though. You lose five of your last seven games. You have your starting quarterback. You have an A plus wide receiver. You have some pieces in place there. It's not a dysfunctional organization. Matt Stafford of the Rams, does Arizona? have no favors. No. I mean, the division. It's just getting better.
Starting point is 00:25:59 So Garoppolo comes back, Matt Stafford, Seattle gets a new offensive coordinator. It's rough. It's a rough. It's, listen, man, it's like being Florida football. And you got Bama and you got LSU and you got Auburn. And you can be good. And fourth. You could be a really good. You could be a really good team next. You could be eight and eight. And eight. Is that good enough for your organization? Eight and eight. He keeps his gig. Eight and eight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Joy of the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lye News. Got two rings, Danny M. And Dolla.
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Starting point is 00:27:42 and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right what you need to be. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tapped Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs?
Starting point is 00:28:15 Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do you? to do a little kill. Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down,
Starting point is 00:28:30 and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS.
Starting point is 00:28:51 on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games.
Starting point is 00:29:16 And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking. Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing. And we're still chasing it.
Starting point is 00:29:37 And we don't know when we've done enough. Because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross. Because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth. Are you a good person because you're afraid? Because that's two different intentions, bro. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:29:53 And that's two different levels of trust. I want you to just really be a good person. Join me, Kear Gaines, as we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose. On my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Learn the Hardway and listen now. Danny Amandola, 12 NFL seasons. Tom Brady's buddy, by the way, you've been in these Super Bowl weeks with Tom.
Starting point is 00:30:19 So you tell me, is he a little more loose? Is he a little more intense? Does it change? Or is Tom, Tom, Tom, man. He's the same. He's been preparing for this, you know, his whole life, this whole year, especially with this group of guys he's with. And he's the same guy.
Starting point is 00:30:36 You know, it's funny. I defended him when he got the divorce with Ian Belichick. I said, listen, man, when you get older, you want to be the man, you don't want to be the only man. And he feels like the only guy left in New England. There's no receivers. Nobody can separate. So when he left and chose Tampa, did it surprise you?
Starting point is 00:30:52 It was a little bit shocking. You know, in my mind, when I was there, I always felt like Tom was going to end his career there. I mean, business is business. And, you know, Tom was, you know, ready for a transition. And he took it. So, you know, I'm obviously excited to see where he is now. And I'm always going to be rooting for him. Listen, you left New England.
Starting point is 00:31:14 You got tired of it. It wore you out. You know, they ask you constantly. Danny to sacrifice money, sacrifice individualism. You know, listen, I get it. Like when you left there, were you worn out a little bit with New England? Well, I was an extreme, you know, I was a huge fan of Bill and the way he coached and his tactics and what he did to prepare us for the game.
Starting point is 00:31:38 I loved playing for Bill. In a lot of cases, it was the same reason why I went to Detroit and got to play for coach Patricia. but the fact that he also wore the GM hat and I had to negotiate my my contract with him three years in a row by myself and take pay cuts to you know help from you know help him and put rings on his finger kind of wore me the wrong way so I felt like it was a best it was in best interest for me to to move on do you think do you think in the end Tom leaving and succeeding like this as a player does it make you happy
Starting point is 00:32:16 it's not anti-bill but it's more that Tom's kind of proving it was about the player not the coach yeah I'm definitely not anti-bill man I love what he's done and how he approaches the game as a head coach again business is business and
Starting point is 00:32:32 you got to be doing and I learned from Bill you got to do business as business is being done and you know if he wants to cut your pay in half and you can get more on the street and you can go somewhere else and help provide for your family then that's what you got to do And I feel like, you know, that's the same reason why Tom is out in New England and he's on to Tampa. You talk to Tom anymore?
Starting point is 00:32:54 Yeah, I talked to him four days ago. But we keep in touch on social media and in tech. So he's a, yeah, I talk to him a couple times a week. Yeah, you had a great relationship. You guys hit it off early. Why do you think that is? You know, it's, it was, I get an emotional charge. from him. He has the ability to obviously play good football, but he can really raise the level
Starting point is 00:33:21 of his teammates in the locker room. This is a guy that is at the top of his game, but with his lifestyle, with the way he approaches the game, he can lift the rest of his teammates to play at a higher level. And that's what I loved about him. That's what I loved about training with him and playing with him. And I knew that we would get into the nitty gritty into the playoffs and into the Super Bowl that, you know, we could relate and we could communicate, talk to each other and get the job done. So he's just a great teammate. Yeah, he trusted you.
Starting point is 00:33:53 He had 152 passing yards to you alone against Philadelphia. You got almost 300. He trusted you. I was a system guy calling. You know what I'm saying? So I was running around trying to do my job, brother. We're all just doing our job, brother. We're all doing it.
Starting point is 00:34:09 By the way, Maddie Stafford goes to the Rams. Aaron Goff, who throws a pretty good ball as well coming to you. Tell me about Stafford, what I don't know. What's Matt like behind the scenes? What's Stafford like? Man, he's a Texas boy throwing through high school football player, went to Georgia, loves football, loves playing quarterback. He prepares just as good as anybody else in the NFL, if not better.
Starting point is 00:34:32 And he's a great teammate. He's obsessed with the game. You know, he has an amazing arm. Obviously, he has great talent. and he gets every question right on Jeopardy. So he's smart. He is a great player, man. I'm really excited for him, his family,
Starting point is 00:34:53 and I know they are excited to be in LA. Hey, listen, you've been in three Super Bowls. You played in a lot of football games. You're not the kind of guy. You've been a big game player. Is the Super Bowl different? Do you have a little butterflies playing in them? You do, yeah, no doubt.
Starting point is 00:35:07 The first one I went to, I was nervous. You know, I returned the opening kickoff to the first Super Bowl I played in. And I told myself, regardless of whether he kicks it five yards deep, six yards deep. So I'm going to take it out. I think I got it to the 19. I wasn't too happy about that. But it was nervous, man. I got to see all the lights go off in Arizona when we're playing the Seahawks.
Starting point is 00:35:29 And I caught the ball. And I ran it. It was a dream come true. Yeah. Yeah. Who do you like Sunday? Man, I'll tell you what, they're two great, two great teams. I feel like it's going to be an offensive showdown.
Starting point is 00:35:41 I feel like they're going to score a lot of points, and I truly feel like the last team with the ball is going to win, whether it's by a field goal or by a touchdown. So, you know, two great teams, man, a lot of speed with the Chiefs, you know, a lot of talent with the Bucks, but what did you have to see? Yeah. Okay, he is a free agent. He's been in three Super Bowls.
Starting point is 00:36:05 He's still productive, undrafted in 2008 out of Texas Tech, and he made playoffs in each of his five years with the New England Patriots. He's Danny Amandola and he's on the market, ladies and gentlemen. He is on the market. Good luck to you, man. Thank you, sir. It's a pleasure to be on your show, man.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Huge fan. Thanks, Danny Amandola, who he was a go-to guy. Brady trusted him. Brady doesn't throw to guys he doesn't trust. He's like very much Aaron Rogers there. He just won't throw to you. If Tom didn't trust you, he won't throw to you. He didn't throw that last year in New England.
Starting point is 00:36:36 There was a lot of... He was throwing the ball. He was throwing the ball. away a lot. Yeah. Everybody wants to keep their home and family safe. Go to SimplySafe home security. Simplysafe.com slash Colin.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Get a free security camera today. So Danny, Trent Dillfer, Eric Dickerson, Peter King, and Andy Reed all stopped by the show today. That's good stuff. So we got busy week. We got a lot of stars coming on the show. We got Stefan Diggs later this week. Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson.
Starting point is 00:37:07 I think Terry Bradshaw's on tomorrow. The supplement I take every morning is MDrive. Go to MDrive for Men.com today, free shipping, moneyback guarantee as well. Keep you lean, keep you strong for joy. Greg Tooey, everybody here. We'll see you tomorrow live in Los Angeles. It's been in the hurt. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform?
Starting point is 00:37:44 We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win.
Starting point is 00:38:25 A win is a win. I don't care which I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that experience. excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfilled of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.
Starting point is 00:38:48 So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. On the Look Back at it podcast. For 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84's big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors, like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year. It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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