The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 02/10/2021 - HOUR 2 - Mahomes, Eagles

Episode Date: February 10, 2021

Patrick Mahomes hasn't played well during the Super BowlThe Eagles have messed up their QB situationGuest: Daniel Jeremiah Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Speaking of seven, seven Super Bowl wins for Thomas Edward, Patrick Brady, Jr. His competition this past year was Pat Mahomes, who's been to two soups in the NFL, three years of the starter, and frankly, was one play away. It felt like from being in a third Super Bowl three years ago. So, look, I don't know anybody who doesn't like Mahomes. He has an incredible arm, remarkable escapeability, and when he escapes, it's not necessarily to run, although he was leading them and rushing.

It's to throw. He's got a crazy quick release, big hands so he can change arm ankles. Like there's nothing feel like he can't do. And it's reasonable to think that he's still, he's still refining his, his skill set. And the more he sees, the better he'll adjust and the better a quarterback he will be. Right. Like all of these things are reasonable.

Daniel Jeremiah is going to join us up coming in 10 minutes. And I have a thought for you. I have a legit, honest thought for you. And it's, it's this. Can we just for one second admit that Pat Mahomes has been in two Super Bowls and he hadn't really played all that well on them? Do you guys remember, do you guys remember when Peyton Manning won the Super Bowl? You guys remember that? Okay, so when Peyton Manning won the Super Bowl, his first time with the Indianapolis Colts, who did they play?

in the Super Bowl, they took on the Chicago Bears. This is in January of 2007. It's the 2006 season. The Bears were 13 and 3 on the year. The Bears were quarterbacked, well, by Rex Grossman and for a short period of time by Brian Gracie. So Grossman, though, started all 16 games, all 16 games. but he had 23 touchdowns and 20 interceptions on the season.

And leading up to that game, leading up to the game, Lovie Smith continually had to answer the question of who his starting quarterback was. And the famous quote was, you know, Lovie Smith saying like, Rex Grossman is my quarterback, Rex Grossman is my quarterback, Rex Joneson is my quarterback. Grossman in the game, two picks, 20 of 28, 165. If you remember, it was pouring rain, terrible weather in my, Miami, I believe what the game was. Even Peyton threw a pick, 2.47, but they end up kind of gutting out a win.

And they got it. They were actually trailing in the game, trailing in the game 14-9 in the second quarter before they marched down the field, scored, and never looked back, had a 16-4 lead at the half, kicked a field goal early in the second half, and won 29 to 17 going away. The point is that when I say the name Rex Grossman, you're like, and then I'd remind you that he was very much on the hot seat as the starter in the Super Bowl. And they played in a rainstorm at Dolphin Stadium. And he threw for 165 yards, one pick, two interceptions.

So when I mentioned the name Rex Grossman, I know that there's lots of Bears fans. to go, Ging, Ging. Rex Grossman a higher pass rating in the Super Bowl

that Pat Mahomes has had in his two Super Bowls. Look, I'm not comparing him to Marino in a loss. I'm not comparing him to Brady

in any of his losses. I'm not comparing him to Fav, to Rogers, to Russell Wilson when they, when they lost to the Patriots. I'm,

I'm comparing him to Rex Grossman. And it's not that quarterback, that, passer rating is the end-all be-all. Okay. But if we're honest with ourselves, and I think Mahomes has been honest, he didn't play well. I didn't like their game plan. I didn't like their adjustments. No one did.

It's really interesting, right? Like when things are going great, it's like, man, Andy Reid, that offense, amazing. Mahomes, incredible. Things go poorly. Man, Andy Reid didn't. And I agree. He did not adjust. Or whoever is making. the calls or whatever, there weren't the proper adjustments. And he was under duress. But, yikes. This is two years in a row. He made some incredible plays to beat the Niners.

If Garapolo connects to Emmanuel Sanders, if Garapolo maintains his poise, they lose to the Niners, they lose to the Patriots. And we're having a different discussion. I understand that's not how the world works. We are result-oriented, and he did step up and make big plays last year. And they did win the Super Bowl. But his combined pass rating is bulletings. below that of Rex Grossman, who's not a great quarterback and was playing in a rainstorm

in the exact same game. It's okay to say, hey, Pat Mahomes is a great player. He's going to have a great career. You love him. But he's played bad. And if you think there's not precedent for it, go back and look at John Elway and how he played in his first two Super Bowl's. Boat blowout losses. So there is precedent for it. and there is a bounce back possibility. But it's just like, let's be honest. Even Mahomes owned it after the game. Like, you know, it's not all the offensive line.

A lot of it's me. I got to make my reads better. I got to get rid of the football quicker. That stuff that he was doing, he didn't always have to run. And that's what happens when guys get hit and get hit early and get uncomfortable. They run when they don't have to.

They start hearing footsteps. but he did hear footsteps. And it's very, very reasonable to say, I love Pat Mahomes. I think he's a great quarterback. I think there's a good chance. It's a better than average chance that they're going to get back to the Super Bowl

and compete sometime within this next big contract. Maybe even next year because the AFC is still not great, not deep, and they have Mahomes and they have Kelsey and they have Tyree Kill and they have Chris Jones and they have Tyra Matthew. Like all of that is fine. But if you're going to say that, use the same exact energy to admit that Pat Mahomes, through two surpoles, hasn't played particularly well through most of them.

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and pundants alike. And I'll ask him, what does he think Russell Wilson's trying to accomplish? And will Carson Wendt be moved? Will Deshawn Watson be moved? And how long did Tom Brady keep this up? You'll find out next. Daniel Jeremiah joins us.

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Now, it's always interesting on how. how things are portrayed, okay? Because we all like Pat Mahomes. I like Pat Mahomes. I remember seeing him in college, and I talked with Darren DeGriamia, who joins us now in the herd on Fox Sports Radio, Doug Gottlieb filling in.

DJ, you and I had a discussion, I think off air about Mahomes where, like, you know, I'm a big 12 guy. I'm like, dude, this guy is ridiculously talented, but, you know, a little loose with the footwork, sometimes moves when he doesn't have to move. and unbelievably talented, but a little bit unrefined, and sitting that first year, learning from Alex Smith,

really refined him as a pro. In the Super Bowl, afterwards, he's like, look, we weren't on the same page. I was holding the ball too long. The receivers weren't where I thought they were going to be. The offensive line sometimes blocked. We didn't execute as a team. What are your thoughts on Mahomes making those comments after the Super Bowl?

Well, I was actually impressed with the way he handled himself after it was over. I thought there was some self-awareness that, you know, there are times he needs to get the ball out quicker. There's times where he'll bail out of some clean pockets. Now, there weren't a ton of clean pockets in that game, but there were a few. So I think he realized some things he needed to clean up. And you go back to Texas Tech, Doug, it was why to me it was such a difficult evaluation. He was kind of that classic boom bust. Now, when you get to know him as a kid,

and as we've all got to know him, about how intelligent he is and how his work ethic, character, all that stuff should have led you to bet more on the boom than the bust. But it was all screens and scrambles when you watched him in college. That's what it was. Was him running around like crazy,

kind of what we saw in the Super Bowl? And you make some unbelievable throws and some reckless throws. They're all kind of mixed in there together. And then when you even talk to everybody in Kansas City, when he first got there, I think Tyrie Kill said something kind of on the record. Like after the first couple practices, he was like, we took this guy in the first round because he was so raw. But, man, he worked his butt off during that time. And Alex Smith, Andy Reed, and everybody else that was there, did a great job of developing him.

But I think, you know, because of some of the injuries up front and because I think he, you know, they just got, they lost their way a little bit in that game. you saw some of those old things kind of come out in that game. Yeah, no, no, those bad habits came out. That's really kind of what happened, right? During adversity, some of those bad habits came out. Okay, what's more disappointing to you as a football guy? The game plan lacking the proper amount of protection or the lack of adjustments when it was pretty obvious that they could not protect with five.

Yeah, I was thinking about this the other day and thinking about the way to say it. And I said, okay, if you had to break it down the three keys to this game, And to me, I use three S words, right? You've got the studs up front for Tampa on their defensive line. You've got the subs tackle. And then you've got the stubbornness of the game plan. Like to me, it was those three things coming together. And it was absolutely stubborn.

And it wasn't, you know, we talk about the number of times they didn't help those tackles. But simplistically, when you see that many too high safety looks, they're just begging you to run the football. You have to run the football. And Kansas City did that. When they played Buffalo in the regular season, Buffalo played with that too high shell the whole time. And it wasn't an exciting game. It was kind of boring.

I think the weather was a little bad. But if you remember, I think they ran for 250 yards. By the Edwards where I think might have had a buck 50 by himself in that game. Mahomes took off and ran. And they just said, you're going to play in that. We'll just run you out of it. And if you don't want to ever leave it, then we'll just run right to victory. And even when they ran the ball, they were successful.

They just didn't do it. why I mean and and are we only blaming are we only blaming Andy or are we blaming anybody else like you know it's always interesting to me like is it is that Andy Reid that's stubborn I you know yeah I mean Andy's got the he's got the come like he's got the full control there so and I think he even said as much after the game that you know he'd like to like to have a do over on that one

but you know I just I thought they completely went away from the run and I get it at the throwing league and analytics this, that, and the other. But if they're going to give you that look, they are daring you to run the football, you have to run the football, and they just didn't do it. This is the herd on Fox Sports Radio and the IHeart Radio app. I'm Doug Gottlie filling in for Colin Cowherd.

Okay, let's go to the other side with Tom Brady and with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. It felt like they had a great game plan. It felt like he, it felt like Brady had a lot more input put on that game plan, right? They didn't really take deep shots. It was fairly conservative. They just didn't lose the game and they let the offense win the game. Is that a fair assessment? It felt like having done these charger games, Doug. I don't know if you remember that playoff game going to New England, what was the 2018, I guess, and seeing that up close and personal.

And I was sitting there going, okay, the chargers with Bosa and Ingram and their defensive front, they can give this offensive line trouble. I think both of them might even have been miced up for the games. I remember seeing something after the fact.

It's like the ball's gone. You can't get to them. The ball is gone. And it was, that's what it was. There were, as good as that Buck's offensive line was, there were some one-on-ones that favored the chiefs.

And when you watch the tape, you'll see Chris Jones win right away. But the ball's gone. It doesn't matter. They screened them. They got the ball out right away, and they ran the football. And you just felt like you could not get to them.

And it felt very, much like a New England game more so than a Tampa game. Okay, so we make this assumption. Maybe it's because the AFC. Maybe it's because Mahomes have been the AFC championship game, Super Bowl, Super Bowl in three years. We make the assumption that they are more likely to be back. But are we missing what Tampa has built?

Because that defensive front is not going anywhere, right? The offensive line has been built. Brady is seemingly ageless. You know, running backs, they keep for it. replaceable. They got studs at wide receivers and Mike Evans has said you can take some of my money and spread around and keep everybody together. Are we missing the fact that we can have a little run here in Tampa as opposed to

the assumption that Kansas City will be back? Yeah, I mean, look, they've got to resign Shaq Barrett. They've got some other free agents. Levante Davis, even though he's gotten a little older, still fantastic player. So they have some key guys, they need to resign. I'll say, I think Tampa's path to the division, I mean, remember, they didn't even win the divisions last year. Their path in the division, I think, is going to be a lot easier. When you look

at the Northern Orleans Saints, no more Drew Brees, they're going to be having to trim some salary, other places to get under the cap. So a lot of changes there. Carolina's probably going to have a new quarterback. Atlanta's got a new coaching staff. I think their path to get to, you know, 12 wins is probably going to be a lot smoother. And then you get into the postseason. The thing about it when you get into the postseason, though, Doug, is I'm just, I'm looking at that NFC West. And I'm saying, man, if the 49ers can ever just stay healthy, that's a, that's a difficult team. And I really think Stafford to the Rams makes them a dangerous team. So, you know, not to mention Seattle's always going to be there. Arizona's got some, you know, exciting young

players. So to me, that's the division I keep an eye on. But, you know, I think Tampa's going to be right back in a good position next year. Who is, who is the Niners quarterback next year? I'm going to say let's go Sam Darnold Sam Darnold is to the Niners that's my that's my whatever date it is February 10th prediction Okay so then where does Garoppolo play next year

Garopolo I would say How about we could go back to New England Or if somehow a Watson trade were to happen It would make sense with him in Houston I mean I'm hope And some of this is wishful thinking I'm hoping for major quarterback carousel This offseason

Speaking of quarterback carousel, okay, so what happened in, tell me the real football guy story to Jamie Roots resigns as president of the Houston Texans today. He'd been there like 20 years, right? He came home from soccer. He's the president of the organization. What's that about? Why did he resign today? Well, you know, I just read the story like everybody else did. And I saw, I don't know, if somebody maybe was on social media or if it was in an article that I

read and talked about his frustration with with the way the GM search went and he had you know he was part of the committee they hired the firm they recommended the five names and then they went and hired uh nick serio outside of that so it sounded like that was maybe a source of frustration there but man when is the next when is the first piece of good news going to come out of houston i mean it has been a while now let's go to seattle yesterday on the dan patrick show russell wilson um we have that guys. Russell Wilson had this to say about what he'd like to see happen in the future. I think that ultimately, for me personally, I think that I want to be able to be involved because in the end of the day, it's your legacy. It's your team's legacy. It's, you know, it's the guys you get

to go into the huddle with. And at the end of the day, those guys, you got to trust. Are you involved in personnel decisions? Have you been involved in personnel decisions? Not as much. I don't, you know, I think that, you know, for me. Do you want to be involved, Russ? Yeah, I think it helps. I think it helps to be involved more. But I think that's, that dialogue should, should happen more often in my thinking. Okay, so he used the term dialogue. He tries to be politically correct.

But then afterwards, he's like, look, I'm tired of getting hit. He told reporters he's tired of getting hit. What's the win for Russell Wilson in saying what he's saying? Well, I think that it was, and this is just my opinion of it, because I've been around different teams. And guys, you will solicit, you know, information from players and players will sometimes offer it. I think when people hear that the sound bite, Doug, I think they go to the place where they think that Russell Wilson wants to be sitting in the draft room and saying,

we're going to pick this guy, not that guy. Like I think that's the image that they have, that he wants that type of power. Whereas I look at it and I've been around teams where I gave this example the other day where, you know, a quarterback on the team said, hey, you know, came up to upstairs and said, hey, in the offseason, guys, we've got to get some more mature people. You've got to bring me some more mature guys. Like there's too many guys that aren't self-starters. Like, this is the team. You know, I'm in the locker room. I'm around these guys every day, all day.

I can feel that the team kind of drifting, you know, a little bit. So we need to bring in some stabilizing forces in the off season. Like that's very constructive. I don't know a personnel department that wouldn't want that type of input. You know, it could be something, you know, everybody thinks about the guys coming in. It could be guys that Russell could come up there and say, hey, you know, player X is, he's, He's late to meetings. He doesn't know his assignments.

Maybe it's an offensive line, and the guy next to him is trying to tell him what he's doing every single play. Like, we can't play with this guy. We've got to get somebody better. And that's where to me, I think it's valuable to have that information exchange between your quarterback and your front office. I don't get on board if you're saying, oh, he wants to go up there and rank your free agent board and all that kind of stuff.

But I do think there should be some interaction there. Yeah, but should you air it publicly? Yeah, I mean, I think Dan, sound like Dan asked him the question and would you like to be involved and he, you know, gave a pretty straight answer. Yeah, he would like to be a part of the process. You know, I remember in Baltimore,

we, you know, we were a 3-4 team for a couple of years under Mike Nolan and, you know, Ray Lewis didn't love that. And we ended up, you know, kind of going back to a 4-3, but he wanted to make sure we could try to have some size up front because the Syragusa and Sam Adams were gone. even though Ray was playing at a very high level,

he wanted to make sure we had some size to cover him up, right, to protect him so that he can range in Rome and make plays. And I'm not saying that we drafted Helodianada because of that, but I think that factored in, absolutely. The Philadelphia Eagles haven't gotten an offer that they feel like is worthy of trading Carson Wenz. What are your thoughts on the negotiation in public

that Philly seems to be going through to get rid of Wenz? Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I can't really figure out what the benefit is of having, you know, anything out in the public. I don't see how it helps you in any way. I don't know where the information is coming from. But when I look at it from the outside, I think people are, I tweeted out like what my guess would be. Like, what does the compensation look like? Where could you get to a good place?

And I just look at a team like the Colts. They make by far the most sense for both, you know, for Carson Wentz and for the Colts. and then you say, okay, well, if we can agree the Colts are the best fit, then what's the compensation look like? And the Colts are ready to win right now. They want to insert a quarterback. So you've got somebody that knows the system they're familiar with. He makes the most sense of all their quarterback options. You want to still have a first round pick to add to your group to help you win right now.

No problem. If I'm Philadelphia, I'm saying I'd like to get a one out of this deal, but I'm not married to that one being a 2021 one. You know, if you want to put a one out in the future and give me a mid-round pick this year, to me, that's something that makes sense for everybody. It's interesting. Like, there's the Bears and the Colts, and there are people like, well, if the Bears get them, they know what they're doing, right? Whereas they come from kind of same, similar school of thought. You know, they obviously try to get Foles last year. Whereas the Colts get them like, they're geniuses.

You know they have the, in the last three seasons, they have the exact same records? How about that? And the Colts, two playoff appearances, one playoff win. The Bears, Pace and Nagy, 28 and 20, same record, one division title, two playoff appearances, no playoff wins, but one was the double dinker, right? So, I mean, it's really interesting on how those appear to be the two teams. Okay, so let's say Philadelphia moves off of Wence. Is Jalen Hurts the quarterback, or do they draft one?

Well, that to me is why I think it makes sense to try and accumulate assets. year, right? So you kind of give yourself a chance to see, you know, what you have in Jalen Hertz for a year, you know, roll it out there, see what it looks like. And then you'd have multiple ones in the following year. If you needed to go back into the quarterback market, you'd have some ammunition to move around to potentially do that. So that to me makes some sense. I think they're kind of, you know, where they're position in the draft, you know, Trey Lance, Justin Fields, but the chance they get there. But, you know, I, you know, I've been. To me, it makes sense just to kind of see what you have with Jalen Hertz for a year.

Dallas Cowboys, Troy Aikman thinks they're close. Are they? I said this other day, Doug, because we just saw Tampa win a Super Bowl, right? Because they had a major upgrade at the quarterback position. So when you look around the league and look at the changes of the quarterback, now I think that Stafford is an upgrade over Jared Goff, no doubt. But when I look at the Dallas Cowboys, just having. DAC back, I think is a massive, is a massive upgrade for them.

When you look around the league, I'd say no team has gotten better at quarterback than they would with Dack. And I, look, I appreciate the couple good starts that you had there from Andy Dalton, but he's not nearly as talented as Dack Prescott. I understand, but they haven't been a good team in two years with him, without him. You know, it's like even before he got hurt, they came back against the Falcons or a bad team. So I'm not saying that Dack is terrible. But their defense, when Dak was playing last year, that was the beginning of the Mike Nolan defense that was atrocious.

I mean, they were awful. Agreed. And Dak, Dak was throwing it all over the place. We've only got to see him with that group, right? With C.D. Lamb in the mix there, we've only got to see that a little bit. I'm telling you, C.D. Lamb is going to be a monster with him with that Prescott for a whole year. So, you know, look, they have other holes in their roster. I don't think they're a complete team by any stretch.

but I do think Dak being healthy for a whole year he's going to throw for 5,000 they've got to fix their defense that's their challenge okay your challenge covering the upcoming draft Dana Jeremiah joining us

NFL Network he became a draft superstar last year those of us who follow football have known he's a superstar long before that but last year your name became synonymous with the draft

how challenging is it this year considering you know some of the best players opted out so you got some of those guys you have to evaluate, they didn't play a season of football. And so the ones that did play aren't playing against sometimes the elite level of talent. You don't have the same volume of reps to look at.

How challenging is this year's draft in comparison to previous year's drafts? It's really hard. It's really hard for me, you know, selfishly because, you know, I didn't get a chance to see any college games. Normally I'll get out to a handful of games and see these guys in person. So you miss that. There's no East-West game, which is kind of more of those mid-round guys, but don't get a chance to see those guys in person. Not going to get a chance to see everybody at the Combine,

which for me was valuable because that's not going around to schools as a scout to be in one building and body type. These guys see quarterbacks throw lives, see guys move around through DB drills. That's valuable to have that in-person experience. And then pro days, like we'll cover pro days from home. So, and now that's just me selfishly, okay, who cares about me? But the teams, they don't get a chance to these guys as a combine. They're going to be limited in the number of people they can get out to these pro days.

So I think to me, Doug, this year, the character and some of the background on these players is going to carry more weight. I was talking with the GM about this the other day. He said, look, this year, we're going to be a little bit more focused on the floor than the ceiling. You know, like this guy, okay, this guy's, this guy's, this guy played. this fall, so we saw him, let's say he played in the SEC, so we saw him played this year, we saw him played a significant number of games. We know that he's a great

kid. Maybe he's not an A player, but we're not going to miss on him, so maybe that pushes some of those guys up the board. Trevor Lawrence, your expectations in the pros is what? Is he Andrew Luck? He's a different style. He's a different style of Andrew Luck, and I think you'll

see more in a design quarterback run game that he'll be able to use with his speed. I think you'll see him a little bit. I think Andrew hit the ground running pretty well. I think you'll see a little bit more of an adjustment period there with him. It's just, you know, not all the bubbles and

tunnel screens that he got that he had at Clemson. So there'll be a little bit of an adjustment period there. But I think he's going to emerge within a few years. It's one of the top, you know, top five to ten guys in the league. He's that talented. DJ, great stuff. Go get prep for the draft. We know that's what you'll be doing, locking yourself

in. Maybe getting some shots up outdoors in the backyard. And we appreciate join us. That's the plan, buddy. Appreciate you. All right. Noted Padres Homer and NFL analyst, and of course, he's the analyst for the Chargers Radio Network, Daniel Jeremiah, joining us in the herd. Let's get to Ryan Music with the news. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Always good to have Daniel Jeremiah on the show, Doug. Let's turn to some NBA real quick before we get back into the NFL. The Brooklyn Nets are a fascinating team for several reasons.

including a 122-11 loss to the Pistons last night, which makes the Nets 7 and 11 against teams with a record below 500, the most losses in the league. Kyrie Irving on the team's third straight loss, I don't think we go out every single day of our lives and sacrifice the time in order to be average at anything, and we look very average, and we have the talent that the eye test presents that we should be dominating.

They were once again without Kevin Durant, who going back to the beginning of this three game, losing streak has been out due to the league's COVID protocols due to an exposure. He could potentially return by Friday. Look, I mean, the Pistons have five wins, but over five of the best teams in the NBA. So that's not surprising. I think now that they don't take everybody seriously. I think it's hard to change a team on the fly. They don't really have practice time.

They didn't have a preseason together. And oh yeah, by the way, they're not particularly, when two of your three best players are terrible defensively, that's going to be hard to navigate. But I also don't think this roster is complete. I think there's plenty of time for them to figure it out. Yeah, we'll wrap it up here with a story out of the NFL that you had mentioned with Daniel Jeremiah. Something very interesting as all interesting stories continue to come out of Houston and the Houston Texans. Team president, Jamie Roots, who has been with the team for a long time. He oversaw the start of the expansion franchise and had a great deal to do with their financial success since becoming a expansion franchise in the NFL has resigned.

And as pro football talk has reported, it has to do with his displeasure regarding their search for a new general manager. He was a part of hiring the search committee. And then they ultimately ignored the recommendation of the search committee when they hired Nick Casario. he was persuaded by now team owner Cal McNair to stay in order to try and maintain the perception that this was not a dysfunctional organization. I mean, look, that guy is like, I'm out. And he sounded like Mark Cuban when you, was in a shark tank, right?

And for that reason, I'm out, right? That's what he should. That's what he should have, instead of Mamba out, for that reason, I'm out. does not look good for Jack Easterby. What is going on with the cult of the Houston Texans that really is, right? Well, I mean, we see this so many times where a business has some success when it's run by the father and then the son takes over and it's never been quite the same. Now, it's been a very short period of time since Cal McNair has taken the major ownership role

after the passing of his father. But in that short period of time, it has been... nothing but almost total and complete chaos, which does not bode well for what you would consider his tenure as the leader of the team. It doesn't, but you know, you hire GM that comes from an organization that figured out a way to get to the playoffs consistently for 20 years straight. Like, in terms of football, let's just see how it plays out

before we make all these damning condemnations over the progress of the Texans. Fair? I think so. And that's my music with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The herd lie news. No matter how hard they try, the Eagles, well, they keep making their quarterback less valuable. I'll explain in a moment.

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quick get well to my good friend Colin Cowherd. I mean, I guess I could go on and on and tell you how much I think of the guy, but I think a great deal. He's a really, really good human being. And thoughtful, kind, considerate. He's a good dude. And, you know, we, we have, we got, there's a lot of people I've worked with in this industry,

and most of them, by and large, are all kind of pretty good guys. But Colin is, he's a special breed, man. He really, really is. But Colin is, he's much better at the real estate thing than I am. He just is. He always has, he's kind of got this little magic touch with real estate. And I'm fascinated by it as well. There's something called chasing the market.

And I think there's going to be a lot of people here over the next six months are going to chase the market because they've seen no matter where you live, real estate's usually doing pretty well. Like even in places that people are leaving real estate's doing well because interest rates are all time low. People figure themselves like, look, I get out of this house, make some money, use that cash, put it down. Now I'm actually paying less per month for a bigger, better place that's more expensive. That's the thinking. So you see your neighbor's house across the street sell for, you know, a hundred grand more. And then you thought like, ah, it's a $400,000 house. Sold for $5.25.

And you're like, my house is better than that. Right. Look at my house. I mean, we got a pool. We got a yard. You know, I got a, every, all the bedrooms are on suite, you know, redone kitchen. Honey, let's, let's move the house. Like the market is unbelievable.

I see you talk to a realtor and the realtor is like, look. If you do the comps, your, your, your house is nice, okay? It's redone, but that one is a little bit, the lot is a little bit nicer, the build quality is a little bit better, the master's a little bit nicer. Like, all right, fine, but like that's the comp. It's about the same size. This is what I want to get for it. They got 525.

Let's list it for 550. The market's going up. And the realtor's going like, you know, you could, if you do it $499, you're going to make plenty of money, you're going to move that sucker. So you list your house. and then your wife's like, okay, we're going to start to calculate. I will get $5.50 for the house. We made X on the house.

I can use that for the down payment. She starts, she puts an offer on a house that's worth $6.50. Why not, right? You're actually going to pay less per month, better house, better neighborhood, better school system. Everything's better. And you're not spending a dime you don't already have because you're making profit on this house and you're actually paying less per month.

All that makes sense of all the sense of the world. Here's a problem. At some point in time, somebody goes like, Yeah, I don't. That house sold, but they had a specific buyer that fell in love and probably overpaid slightly for it. Some of them moved in from out of the market. You know, they moved in from L.A. And they were like, $500,000 for a house here to take my money.

I take it all. Easy. Cash only. The Eagles are the guy that lists their house for 25, 30 grand more than their neighbor's house, knowing it's worth probably 50 to 75 grand less. That's what they're doing with Carson Wentz. They see what the lions got for Matt Stafford, and they're like, look, Stafford's good.

He's been in a league a long time, but he was never an MVP. This guy was an MVP, and we're going to take a good chunk. We paid a bunch of the salary. We're taking a hit with dead cap money. And then negotiating in public, all they're doing now is going back to the realtor, saying like, look, it's not the list price.

That's the problem. The problem is people don't know about the house. Make sure it's on all the websites. Make sure it's in the Sunday paper. Make sure it's everywhere on social media, everywhere. And the real is like, the problem is the price of the house. And what ends up happening? The house sits.

The longer it sits. Somebody looks at the MLS says, it's been the market for 150 days. Then you lower the price and now it's at for 150 days and they're lowering the price. So instead of getting top dollar for the house because you overlisted it, you're going to end up, your wife's already all in on the new house, you'll end up taking whatever in $475 for the house. That's what's going to happen with the Eagles. They have bungled this every step along the way. It is obvious to people in the NFL, they want Carson Wentz out of the building.

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