The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 02/11/2021 - HOUR 3 - Buccaneers, upsets

Episode Date: February 11, 2021

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. What up? Welcome in. this is the herd wherever you may be in however however however you may be making as part of your day thanks so much i'm done gotley filling in for colin cowherd who i am told little bird he told me colin actually himself feeling much better feeling good like he should welcome in um Colin's feeling much better. He's good.

He's going to come back. Lean, mean, hot take. Metaphor, spitting machine. Oh! Oh! Oh! Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. My man Brandon Whedon will join us in 15 minutes. What was worse for the Chiefs?

The plan or the lack of adjustments to that plan? Plus, we got a great best for last. Really, really good best for last. You know, I've seen the videos now of the championship boat parade celebration. And first it was cool. It was cool. It was very distinctly Tampa, right? And that it's warm enough to wear shorts and a shirt.

It's on boats. It's cool with Tampa. Like all of that is like super unique. It's also during this time of pandemic. It does give you hope. I'm sorry of where you are, where we are. We still, we're going to have to wear masks everywhere we go. Things are starting to open up.

Florida a little bit different. They do things differently there, okay? Like, I'm not going to sit here and cast judgment over a bunch of people who are able to, based upon what their local officials deem as acceptable, are able to go masquist. I'm not going to be that guy. But it felt like our first kind of national celebration, didn't it? Like we haven't had anything to celebrate. It's been hard.

It's been hard to have fun the last year. We're a year in. 11 months. Whatever. Close enough. Right. Round up. And I saw Tom Brady and it's interesting.

Before the game, so my daughters are 14. We moved to Southern California. We lived in Southern California two years. So they're 14 years old. Five and a half of their 14 years they've lived. lived in Connecticut, which is nine of those, most of those years, some of those years, New England, because Connecticut's kind of, part of it is, it's like New York and Chuset, right? The southern part is more New Yorkers, and it's the suburbs, and the northern port feels

much more like New England, much more Boston. And so that's why it is epicenter for Yankees, Red Sox rivalry. It is epicenter for jets and giants and bills and patriots, oh my. But they like Tom Brady, but they're kind of tired of the Tom Brady thing. Like Super Bowl and Tom Brady again, can't watch. No other sense.

You know. And I think most of America is kind of like that. Like the numbers weren't great. And it's just one of the, we get kind of fatigue over it. And, you know, if you think of Tom Brady, think of how many of the things that he does are not relatable. Like he wears, he does.

Ugg commercials. Right? That's not like a guy's guy. It's not like Wrangler's like Brett Farr of his. Married to a supermodel. Nothing like like who wouldn't if they could. But that's, you and I could have a conversation with the supermodel,

let alone marry one, have kids and have a successful life, right? I mean, there's so many parts to him which is hair, what's going up there? His face, how does it looking young? His teeth, does he have better toothpaste? Is his crest 3D whitening toothpaste better than my crest 3D whitening toothpaste?

What's going? How does he look younger? Well, of course he's got some TB. He can pay for his own chef. He can, you know, he's in such a higher plane and tax. I cannot. He's like a mythical creature. He glows when he comes.

I mean, he actually plays an entire NFL game. Like when Peyton Manning, you guys remember when Peyton Manning would take off his helmet, he'd have that big like rectangular indention on his forehead. Because he was wearing a helmet strapped to his head for the last three hours. Tom Brady takes off his helmet and his hair is perfect. His uniform, there's no grass in his uniform. He even looks like he smells good. really hard for me to have the feels for Tom Brady, right?

And then yesterday, he's on a boat and he's wearing a knee brace or like a knee sleeve with some shorts. Okay, first thing is knee sleeve with some shorts is classic dad move. The only thing better would have been if he had cargo shorts on, right? If he had like cargo shorts on and an old Navy t-shirt, you're like, you know what? Okay, like Brady's a guy. So he's got some shorts on and knee sleeve. And I understand he's a professional athlete.

knee probably hurts, but really on a boat? But that's Brady. And then he gets off the boat. He is hammered. Hammered. He's white boy wasted. Hey man. He's like fist bumping dudes,

giving guys uncomfortably long hugs. He's, I love you, man. I love you. I love you. It's kind of a close talker now all of a sudden. You're like, whoa. But here's the thing.

We all know this to be true. Who you are as a drunk is who you are as a person, right? You're an angry junk, you're an angry guy. You're a quiet drunk. You're a really quiet, like, recluse sort of guy. A little scary sometimes, right? A little dark. You're a dark drunk, you're like a little dark.

Don't give that guy some Jack Daniels. He'll start talking some conspiracy theories on you and you'd be like, whoop, check please. Let's find out what's in that guy's search engine, right? If you're a happy drunk, you're a happy dude. it's not just that they win a Super Bowl. It's that drinking, it takes away all those inhibitions and who you really are comes out. It's authentic.

And you know what? He was authentically likable. Now, he tweeted out that it was just a little avocado tequila, right? And you know what? If it was White Claw or Zima, we would have liked him just the same. We would have made fun of him. But it's Brady. He's 43.

He's like, you know, look, I can only drink white claws. All right. Don't act like you haven't tried a way. white claw. You may not have a sixer in the freezer, okay, trying to cool it down after work, but you've tried a white claw. You've had a Zeme in your life. No, I've never had a say. Of course you did. Now, whether you dropped the Jolly Rancher in there and you had it last weekend, completely different story. But Brady, you go and look at the comments. Not that social media is the end-all-be-all, but you look at the comments, good for him. I hated Tom Brady now.

kind of like him. Because if you went through the pandemic, left your family behind, went to a new football team, struggled early on, brought in a couple of your boys, won three road games, won a Super Bowl in your quasi-homptown, not really in front of many of your hometown fans, at 43 years old proving that you still had it. You too would like to have a cold one and maybe a couple of cold ones, maybe a six or a cold ones. Celebrate with a little Lombari trophy to boat and some sun in your face. And yeah, that day drinking, that feels good with a dub.

This was his teammate, Steve McClend, a defense tackle for the Buccaneers, last hour on playing with Tom Brady and what separates him from other quarterbacks. All right, man, with everything and more. The one thing I would say, his preparation, his love for the game. The way he put

the time and the hours in for the game, he makes you want to work that much harder. makes you want to work that much harder. That's pretty spectacular, right, of somebody to say, he makes you want to work that much harder. You see that dude doing it who's already done it six times previous to this year

and nine Super Bowls and you're like, I want to get some of that. How do I, if he's in or, that's what I was telling you about Jared Gough. Right? That was the thing with Jared Gough. When John Wolford, who's a nobody in the league, is outworking, out preparing,

and gets more respect in the locker room than the quarterback that took the Rams to the Super Bowl. Bowl and you can't fool those guys. You can't fool Steve McLennan. You can't fool Aaron Donald. You can't fool him. And that's why when he gets hammered after winning a Super Bowl, you're like,

hell yeah, he deserves to get a hammer. You know why? Because he worked his butt off. I did not grow up liking cold beer. I did not. I remember I had a couple beers in high school and I was like, this is gross. My dad was not a beer guy until later on in his life.

He was, he's like me, we both like Mexican beer. And I went to, to college and at Notre Dame, everybody drank beer. And I still wasn't really a beer guy. After my first year at Oklahoma State, this is summer of 1998.

I stayed in town for a couple of weeks. And they get you a summer job. And my summer job, a lot of guys, they were like sweeping at the, at the quick trip, right? Sweeping up and refilling the ice. Mine,

I was like the one-man demo team for a guy who was redoing houses. And I keep in mind, it's Oklahoma in the summer. It's hotter than, yeah, it's hotter than hell. And there's no air conditioning because you're remodeling a house and I got pump up.

So you just go in and with a sledgehammer and they tell you knock out that wall and then clean it all up and you got a mask on and that's what you do and you sweat. And about five o'clock, those guys were like, hey, we're going to get a six or you want to throw in on, you know, you want to throw in on a case and have some beer. And, right? If you've, if you've ever worked for a living, and I have not done it very much, but if you've ever worked for a living in the hot summer sun and then you drank a cold beer, you're like, oh, God, that feels so good.

And you feel great because you feel like you earned it. That entire day led up to that moment where you earned it. Now consider Tom Brady very different. Obviously, he's not breaking down his fingernails. He's not sweating inside of a remodeled house. But the idea is he worked for seven, eight months, nine months, without the family around, without the normal fandom through a new team, a new coaching staff, trying to rework some things. And yesterday was the, you know, right?

Could have been, that's probably the first tequila he's had the entire year. Oh. and it becomes incredibly relatable. Ask yourself right now. Truth. You could have hated Tom Brady for the last 15 years. Spygate, deflake gate, the arrogance of the Patriots, and they beat the Ravens in the playoffs.

I guess you need to look up the rulebook. Remember that? That was Tom Brady. Guess you need to look up the rulebook. And the hair and the teeth and the ugg boots. Then you watch him yesterday, white boy waist, you're like, you know what? I kind of like Tommy.

Kind of like him. Even if he was drinking a white club. or Zima with a little jolly rancher in it. You know what? We're good, Tommy. I feel you. Should Russell Wilson have kept his comments in-house? We'll ask a former starting quarterback, Brian Whedon. He joins us next in The Herd.

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but what the Buccaneers defense did to the Chiefs' offense in the Super Bowl? I was surprised, man. I'll be honest. I mean, you're not used to seeing the Chiefs kind of sputter and not make those adjustments needed. Obviously losing the tackle, we talked about that last week. I mean, losing, you know, having both tackles, that's a problem, especially against a front like that, and they weren't really able to overcome it.

And pretty much from the jump, I mean, they just got after. from Holmes and everybody's seen the stat of how far he ran around before he threw those, you know, those pass attempts. It's just, it was kind of, kind of shocking to see. You know, they weren't able to really run it. And by the time, halftime came there down, what, 21-6? And it kind of became a throw fest. But, yeah, Todd Bowles and that defense, you know, to go on the road and beat, you know,

Aaron Rogers a couple weeks before and then do that in the Super Bowl, man. That was an unbelievable performance. What was more surprising, though, that their offensive line didn't seem, they didn't seem to prepare for the pressure, and then they didn't change, they didn't react to it. What was more surprising that the game plan seemed flawed or the reaction was equally flawed? I would say maybe the game plan, just because we've been so accustomed to seeing Andrew Reed and Eric B. Enmey kind of molded what they're doing to make changes throughout games. you know, their changes on the sideline have been just, just matched for pretty much in Mahomes' entire career. So, you know, you're used to see them, you know, find ways to, you know, they tried early.

They tried with tight ends to help block, and you could tell that, you know, they weren't winning on the outside because of, you know, the coverages that Todd Bowles was playing on the back end. And then, you know, when they did just rush four, you know, they weren't able to get shots over the top of Tyreek. They did a great job of bottling him up. Kelsey did his deal. but just not enough, you know, just not enough.

There was, you know, again, in my opinion, on both sides of the ball, I think the difference was in the trenches. I just think the buccaneers on defense pinned their ears back and made a rough night for him. I mean, we talked about it last week. You, Doug, I mean, it's like, you know, name the last good offense that had a really bad offensive line. And I can't think of one, you know.

And so it starts up front and, unfortunately, Kansas City, was undermanned and pretty much got dominated from the jump. Yeah, it was surprising, though, to me that you had two weeks repaired knowing you were going to have some issues. I mean, even with a healthy office line, you might have issues against the Buccaneers. And you didn't put in some schemes where you had a higher percentage of six and seven men kind of in protection. Brandon Weed and our guest in the herd, Doug Gottlieb filling in for Colin.

What was your feeling on the officiating? Oh, I didn't take you taggy on the one on Tyron in the end zone. I don't really think that ball was catchable. Earlier before that, when Brady through the tipped interception, the hold on the outside was a little tick-tack, in my opinion, especially in the Super Bowl. With that being said, I don't think it was the difference. I mean, it was not a very well-officiated game,

but we kind of saw that through the playoffs, and there were some pretty bad officiating and some miscalls. And, you know, unfortunately, we kind of became the storyline, which is unfortunate with, you know, as good as those quarterbacks are and, you know, as well as Brady and that offense played and stuff like that. But, yeah, very, very average, especially in the first half. I think it got a little bit better as the game went on. But, you know, a game like that, I mean, you know, you don't want to see the officials.

I mean, you want to see the players play and, you know, call the obvious ones, but they were a little tick-tack early on. Okay, you as a former quarterback, what? What is it about Brady? Like, explain how winning follows Tom Brady. Well, I mean, I think guys around him just find a way to step their game up. I don't think they want to let him down. I think he just has the ability to will the guys around him.

And, you know, whether that be, you know, play or, I mean, there's been games where he's done a couple interceptions, three interceptions, and found a way to win. You know, and that's, you can't really teach that. I think that's kind of, you know, that's 23 years of doing it in the NFL, or however long he's been playing, 22 years, whatever it is. You know, that's, you know, knowing in crucial situations to make big plays and not compound mistakes. I think he's really good at that. I think, you know, he's able to, you know, when times the biggest, he's able to find a way to step up and make those plays. And then, you know, in crucial situations, don't hurt your team.

You know, it's okay to punt sometimes and stuff like that, but you look at the game the other night. They had an unbelievable plan. They came in. They knew they could dominate the line of scrimmage to hand the ball, the Leonard Four Nett and Ronald Jones, and they ran wild. And then the play action game off that, which Tom Brady loves to do, it was wide open. And the pop passes to Gronk and take a couple shots here and there.

I mean, they pretty much could do whatever they wanted to do. But, you know, Brady just, he has the ability to get the guys around them to step up and play their best in crucial situations. And, again, I think that's a respect factor. and a large part of why, in my opinion, he's the goat. You and I saw Mahomes a lot in college. Obviously, you played in the Big 12. I played basketball in the Big 12.

We watched the league a ton, no matter what we're doing. And I felt, look, were they getting manhandled up front? Yes. Did they not run the ball enough? Yes. But some of the bad habits of Mahomes came back out, right? Some of the things he used to do in college, where running when he doesn't have to

and trying to make the impossible play when it's just not there. Is that a fair assessment of what kind of spiraled with the homes? Yeah, I agree. I mean, he wasn't comfortable. But, you know, at the same time, I mean, how many times have we seen him make plays and just pull a rabbit out of the hat?

You know, like, oh, my God, you know, this guy did it again. How did he do this? And I mean, call a spade, a couple of those throws in one where he's going down, he's horizontal to the ground. He throws a lot off. Hit the guy in the face mask.

Yeah, hit him in the face mask. If he completes that, I mean, whether they win or lose, we're still going to be seeing that highlight. So, I mean, you know, the one in the end zone, you know, where he was going to his left and ran around. And, I mean, hit the dude right in the forehead. I know, Tyreek, maybe not the forehead, but, you know, Tyreek had a chance to catch that. And so, yeah, I mean, he did. You know, he wasn't comfortable. And I've been in that situation where, you know, as Sam Donald said, and he's not wrong,

he starts seeing ghosts a little bit. You know, the pressure that's really not there becomes, it gets. It's a little claustrophobic in there, and you want to get out of the pocket and be able to see the field a little better. And he, you know, that's his game. He did that in college. I mean, he just makes that wild play that you can't teach. He just has an inability to just make plays and pull some throws out of his ass that he normally isn't able to. But he's an unbelievable player.

He's so much fun to watch. I mean, even that game, they really didn't have a chance. I mean, some of the plays he almost pulled off were unbelievable. Yeah, yeah. I know. It's pretty special. Russell Wilson was on Dan Patrick yesterday, and he said he'd like to have more say in some of the personnel stuff. And then afterwards, he talked to some reporters, and he said, I'm tired of getting hit, which is direct shot at the offensive line that he plays behind.

Walter Jones was on local radio in Seattle. take a listen to what he had to say about Russell Wilson. I think you should leave that in-house. I think once you put that out there now, everybody's thinking that you don't appreciate the guys that you play with this year, even though you're where you need to be every year. You know, this team is right around that mark every year. So you have to credit that to Russell Wilson and the guys around him.

But still again, once you call those guys out, those guys are like, wow, really? Like, we go to war with you every week. You know, we're trying our best not to get you hit, but still, again, though, for you to say that publicly, You're putting yourself out there on front street, and now you've got everybody like now talking about what you're saying. So you always have to be careful. What do you think about what Russell Wilson had to say?

Walter, I think Russell's looking at that, and he's probably regretting what he said. You know, those are things that, no matter how you feel, you just don't say them. And you don't say them publicly. You may tell your wife that, and you may tell your closest buddies, but, you know, you don't put that out there for the,

for the media to grab a hold of, especially in a pretty slow time now. The Super Bowl's over. There's not a whole lot to talk about. And obviously, anytime Russell Wilson talks, people listen. But, you know, that's just, you know, those offensive linemen, I mean, that's a gut punch for them. You know, they're busting their ass to do what they can to protect them. You know, they've got some good players on the offensive line. But, yeah, he took more shots.

But at the same time, if you look back on that, I haven't watched every snap of his. But, I mean, he brings some of those hits on himself, like getting out of the pocket and not standing in there and getting rid of the ball on time and trying to trying to fill the ball in rhythm. So, yeah, I mean, like I said, I would have to guess that he regrets saying those things because that's just not a good feeling, you know, that you want, you know, amongst teammates and, you know,

especially at that level, man, you're all pros, you're all grown men. It's your job. And anytime you kind of spout out like that, it just usually doesn't sit real well with the guys in that locker room. We're seeing Jared Gough, he's going to get a fresh start. Now, the great thing for golf is he's getting a fresh start. start. His GM came over with him. Really, you know, traded for him, but he was, he was the director of college scouting with the Rams, right? So he's a big part of the reason he was drafted. Wentz is probably going to get a fresh start as well. You were a guy, your first round pick with

the Browns. They changed coaches after the first year. And then you're out and you're in Dallas as a backup getting a kind of a fresh start. What is that like to have experience as a starter, being a first round pick, and then needing a fresh start? What, what, what, what allows guys to figure out their game and get back? Well, I think you kind of get out from underneath the microscope just a little bit because, you know, he was the first overall pick, obviously all the expectations and stuff he's going to have with the Rams were high. And, you know, game in and game out, you've got to play well, or if you don't, you're going to get

crushed. And when you get a fresh start like that, you go to a new place, has a little bit different culture. You know, you're able to kind of hopefully maybe make a spark and go somewhere where it's just you kind of get the monkey off of it. back where you're like, okay, I got out from underneath a bad situation that wasn't good for maybe him or the team or whoever may be. And you just kind of, you can't sit back, take a deep breath and say, all right, let's reboot this thing and see if we can get back to what we're doing.

I mean, you don't play in the National Football League unless you're a good player and you've had a lot of success at the collegial level. So, I mean, it's clear that he's still got some of the thing. I think golf is a good player, you know, maybe a little inconsistent, but a really good player. So, you know, I'm pulling for him. I think if he goes to Detroit, you know, they can keep Marvin Jones and keep some of those guys intact. I think, you know, I think he'll be fine up there. It's just on the flip side, and when I'm speaking on both sides of my mouth, I'm more happy for Matt Stafford getting out of him because he gets a fresh start in the team that,

in my opinion, I haven't seen the odds in Vegas, but they've got to be probably top two or three, four favorite to win the Super Bowl. I mean, they went from, you know, a really good team to, my opinion, a great team, just with adding Matthew Stafford's quarterback. So anytime you can get a fresh start, you know, more times or not, it's just you can take a deep breath, sit back and say, all right, let's reboot and get back to what we did to get us here. And, you know, I saw a little bit more success once I left Cleveland and was able to kind of get out from underneath that microscope a little bit.

You're close with Deshaun. You were Deshawn's backup. When he got hurt, you started for Deshawn in Houston. to this point, they've offered no desires to trade him. On my show last week, you said, I don't think any chance he plays for Houston again. This becomes like that staring contest, right? Who blinks first, or a game of chicken? How do you think this goes down in Houston?

I think you eventually gets out of there, and I may be wrong. I hope I'm right. I think, again, this is another situation that's the Texans, they just keep making moves that I just shake. my head. I'm like, what are they doing? You know, who's calling the shots? What's really going on down there? I just, I don't get it. I mean, even, you know, stuff like, you know, the equipment manager, Mike Parsons, an unbelievable guy, close with Deshawn. Maybe that's why they're doing it. Obviously, we saw Jamie Roots resigned. I mean, heck, he may have been forced to resign. Who knows?

I mean, just some of the moves they're making are just head scratching. And I've talked to a couple guys down there, and they're just, they're at a loss for words. They don't really know how to put into words of what's happening and what's going to happen because it's just a mess. But, you know, I do. I think he gets out of there. May take some time. You know, positive for Houston's, they're going to be able to get, you know, a truckload of first-round picks and, you know, hopefully revamped, you know, that roster and get that roster where they want it. They don't have much draft capital right now. So we'll see. Like I said, I'm pulling for DeShan. I want him to get out of there. I really do. I think he, you know, there's a couple of places I'd love to

see him go to have a shot to be on a contender from day one. And I just, I think that's what's got to happen. I just think the bridge has been burned. I don't know if there's, there's any way to kind of heal it and patch it up. Okay, if you were on a, in a victory parade, okay, would you have a knee brace on? Would you have a knee seat on? No, I saw that. I wasn't, sure what that was all about. I, I, I probably, probably would have been as drunk as he was when he was walking through that gate. But about the knee brace, I'm not real sure about the knee brace. That is some dad stuff.

Like, all he needed was, all he needed was some cargo shorts, right? And like an old Navy T-shirt, and you're like, he looks like every dad, right? Like, if you mowled along with a knee brace on, like, you're a dad, like, you're in your mid-40s, you're a dad. You know what, though? When you pull up on a $2 million boat, the sweet as that thing was, you can wear whatever you want, man. You just want a Super Bowl. You can do whatever you want. But yeah,

everybody's tossing around the Lombardi trophy. How about he's like, don't worry, guys, I got six more. Don't worry about that. Yeah,

right. I'm not sure you caught it. Cammer, Brate was he on the other boat who caught it. I just hope it wasn't some, you know, I hope it wasn't some of the front office guys or some. You know,

fortunately caught that thing. It didn't go in the water. But yeah, that was, I was a little nervous for him. It sounded like his daughter was, too, just from the clip I saw. But yeah,

it looked like they had a hell of the time, man. I was, I was little jealous. It looked like a lot of fun. Didn't it? Didn't it looked, it looked a little bit like you at Grand Lake, only, you know, obviously you'd throw in the knee brace.

Back in the day, back in the day when I could party a little bit and not be hung over the next day and do like crap. Oh, yeah, but listen, it was day drinking, so I'm sure there was an, there's an afternoon nap involved at some point. That's true. For Brady. There's an afternoon. That day drinking in the sun in Florida. That gets you real quick. That gets you real quick.

He looks like you were having him and Gronk. Gronk always looks like he's having a good time, but yeah, they got after it, man. it was there. It looked like a lot of fun. I was jealous. I was a little jealous. Brandon, great stuff. Thanks for joining us. All right, you got a buddy. See you. My guy, Brandon Wheaton, first round pick at the Browns. Start for four, three different franchise.

Of course, play for the Titans as well. Let me get you to rhyme music with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Well, Doug, we're actually going to start with golf? Yeah, golf, a little surprising. I know in the middle of football season and everything. But it has a little bit of a football twist on it. You remember the match.

It started with Tiger versus Phil Mickelson, Phil Mickelson getting the win. Then Tiger and Peyton Manning against Lefty and Tom Brady. Phil and Sir Charles getting the win over Steph Curry, Peyton Manning. Well, now there are reports, the match part four featuring Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes. That's right, Doug. TMZ saying sources from those who are organizing the event are optimistic that they're They can work something out because the event will be for charity, of course. And Brady enjoyed this time last time on the match.

No word yet on the pros that will be featured with them, whether it would be Tiger Woods, Bill Mickelson, or anyone else. Just that they are currently optimistic about Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes being involved. Hmm. I bet Pat Mahomes hits the hell of the golf ball, right? Well, there was that video. Man, I think it was. No.

it was, I mean, yes, he can do that as well. But I think it was after his first year as a starter, then that top golf, and he was, yeah, just striping the ball. I mean, like, now, look, I would say basketball players outside of like Andre Godal and a couple of these guys are Jordan, you know, basketball players,

the guys that didn't grow up playing golf. But baseball, football, I know he's a hooper as well. Like, the baseball players hit the hell out of golf ball. They just do. They absolutely tend to. Well, yeah. Speaking of, there was our guy, Mike Trout, remember there was a video of him also. I mean, it was crazy.

I think it was spring training at the top golf in Arizona, and he was just. Just scalding a golf ball. Yeah. Unbelievable. But I guess Pat Mahomes, you know. I guess totally believable. To me, it's totally believable. Yeah.

Like, oh, Mike Trout hits a golf ball a long way and where he wants to go. Like, yeah, that's actually very believable. Makes total sense. We will get ourselves going here in the NFL Doug. As we continue to monitor the. quarterback moves around the NFL and, you know, we prepare for the draft. We have had our eyes on some of the obvious teams. The Jets, the Eagles, the Colts, Cowboys, Saints, all with a bit of a question mark at the

quarterback position. One team perhaps under the radar. Carolina Panthers. NFL reporter Jeremy Fowler had this to say, quote, they have an aggressive owner, an aggressive GM and an aggressive coach, and they are willing to scour the earth for one thing. Their long-term solution at quarterback, they, they, do not seem sold on Teddy Bridgewater. I mean, I think that was

obvious. He was a bridge quarterback to begin with. It's really a two-year deal. You're better than that, Doug. No, I'm actually not. I'm actually, you know me, but I'm not. But they said they needed to upgrade the quarterback's so not surprising. I'm sure they'd love to get, you know, Deshaun, who Clemsons right down the street, you know, it's an hour and a half away. But, you know, I think what's really kind of troublesome to them is like they are two quarterbacks

Fields and of course Trevor Lawrence that are grew up within a couple hours of Charlotte and I don't think they can get either of them and I'm not sure they're in love with Fields but maybe Fields becomes their guy but it's not a surprise and they try to revamp the roster

and Bridgewater's a great placeholder but he's not I mean remember when he was in New Orleans not this season the season before he had the fewest yards per throw of any quarterback in the NFL. Yes, they won without him, one with him as starting quarterback, but it wasn't because of it. We'll wrap it up here with this, Doug, in the NBA.

Bradley Beale's agent has come out to basically shut down all of the trade rumors surrounding Bradley Beal right now in Washington. He doesn't want to quit on something. He's an incredibly loyal guy, and he wants to always feel like he's done everything he can to help something or someone be successful. Bradley Beale currently leading the NBA in scoring at 32 points per game despite Washington's 6 and 16 record won the worst in the league. Wait, come again? What was the, I know the hook to it, but what was it? His agent shutting down all of the trade rumors.

He's staying put in Washington despite several championship contending teams apparently keeping their eye on Washington and all of the rumors that continue. to swirl about his future and with the Wizards. Yeah, again, I think he's a foundational piece that they're not ready to move. And he's making a crazy amount of money. And it's hard to move him. So the Lakers have long less that.

Again, he makes so much money. I think this is actually a smart play from the agent. You don't want to be the agent that's pushing out the door because then you don't get back what you want in return. You also lose equity. They love them in Washington. I'm sure he's frustrated. I don't think the Russell Westbrook acquisition was one that fixed them or helped them,

but they are a year and a half away from Russell being off the books. Maybe that's the reason behind. And that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lie News. Today is the 31st anniversary of one of the greatest upsets in the history of sport. I'll tell you what the upset was and give you my greatest upsets. Next.

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on this day Buster Douglas beat Mike Tyson in Japan. Now, look, it's very, very different now from it was then.

It was on pay-per-view, but it just wasn't this. There was no social media, so all of a sudden would pop up. I don't remember the hour of the day that it popped up that Mike Tyson was beaten

and it was in the cover of Sports Illustrated with the, with his mouthpiece like hanging out of his mouth. He didn't train well, but he got beaten by Bust. Mike Tyson was

I mean, he was, everybody was loved him, but was afraid of him. He used to come out with the towel, a hole cut out for the neck and the head. And then that was it, black trunks, black shoes, no socks. He was the baddest man on the planet. And Mike Tyson was beating. And with that, we give you the greatest upsets in the history of sport. Okay. No numbers.

No numbers. Just, just some of my favorites. Let's start with App State beaten Michigan in the big house. Now, Appalachian State would go on to competing for a 1-A-N-A-N-F-CS title. And Michigan, well, Michigan, that team with Chad Henney as quarterback. The running back was the all-time leading rusher. They had a squad.

They had a squad. But they would go on, they would lose the Oregon. Dennis Dixon, I think, was the quarterback the next week. and they got housed by Ohio State last week of the season because, you know, they're Michigan. But it was losing to Ab State in the Big House, which was the first game ever on the Big Ten network, ever. New Network, celebrating the Big Ten, beaten by App State.

It's got to be one of the greatest upsets in the history of college football. UMBC beat Virginia. Now, Virginia didn't have DeAndre Hunter, who of course is now having a very good NBA career with the Hawks. Virginia would bounce back to next year and win national championship. They're still, I guess, defending national champions. And UMBC has never been the same. But for that one moment, you know, the statistic had always been a 16 had never beaten a 1.

Well, they did. And it makes it even sweeter that Virginia would go back to next year and win the national title. Giants beating the Patriots. Remember the 06.06. season. When the Patriots were undefeated, they played in the Super Bowl, and the Giants who had lost to them, but played them competitively. Last game of the regular season, beat them the David Tyree catch.

But more than anything, Brady was constantly under duress from the pass rush. Giants beating the Patriots, ending the hopes of a 19-0 undefeated, complete regular and postseason, an all-timer. The Red Sox coming from 03 down to be. the Yankees. It wasn't just that no one had come from three games to none down to win the game. It wasn't just that it was the Yankees and the Red Sox and the Red Sox had won a World Series in 86 years, is that the beating in Game 3 was so bad. It just felt over. Then Dave Roberts, you know, is a pinch runner. He's still second base. And the rest, as they say, is history.

Bloody Sock. Like the whole thing. That year. was incredible. Baseball was amazing. I thought Anthony Ruiz beaten Anthony Joshua, who was previously under, I mean, Andy Ruiz beaten Anthony Joshua. Do you remember Ruiz? Hey, Ruiz

was, I mean, he's squatty, heavy, tatted up. I mean, straight kind of old school boxer. And when Anthony Joshua walks into ring, you're like, look, I don't know who the heavyweight champion is for the last 15, 20 years, but that's what it looks. like.

And Ruiz kicked his ass. It was beautiful. It was boxing at its best. At its best. And remember, he was the last minute stand-in because the real opponent was tested positive for PEDs. It's crazy. All right.

The Denver Nuggets beating the Seattle Supersonics. That was when DeKim and Muntum. Remember he had the ball and he was holding up, yes! Sean Kemp, Gary Payton. Who else was on that? That Sonic's team was amazing. George Carl coached them to an NBA finals. But in 1994, that was, I was like the biggest upset I can think of early in the NBA playoffs

when the number one seed goes down. Look, there's other college basketball ones that have taken place that are super interesting in the NCAA tournament. I remember Iowa State losing? Was that, was that to East Tennessee State? Yeah. But those are the ones that, I mean, nothing to me compares to Mike Tyson going down at the hands of Buster Douglas and the mouthpiece hanging out of his mouth. All right, Doug Alibben for Colin. Colin will be back on Monday.

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