The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 02/19/2021 - HOUR 3 - NFL

Episode Date: February 19, 2021

Colin gives his thoughts on possible outcomes during the NFL offseasonGuest: Eric Mangini Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for priva...cy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:00 and I can teach him a thing or two about football, which is really what I'm, I'm his mentor. He's joining us lying. I'm sure he loves that. I'm sure he's giggling over that. Let's start with this. Let's start with this. So I'm a believer. If you show me success three or four or five times doing something, it doesn't matter if
Starting point is 00:03:20 you're a tax attorney. It doesn't matter if you're a landscaper. I think you're smart. So Frank Wright got the most efficient year ever out of Andrew Locke, the most efficient year ever out of Carson Wentz, and Philip Rivers had, on his last leg, had one of his top three most efficient seasons. And I look at Wenton Reich, and I think, I know he's broken, but I got a track record of Frank Reich working everywhere he goes. I think he figures out Wentz somehow, and I think there are coaches, you know him, there are these coaches that are just better. They just solve
Starting point is 00:03:55 stuff. So I think Wentz and Indy's going to work, you are more of a skeptic. I look at this situation and I think how broken Philadelphia must think he is. They're going to take the largest salary cap in the history of the NFL. They trade them away for what's very small compensation for a guy who was your starting quarterback and who you've paid that much money. You paid so much money and so many draft picks to acquire them in the first place. You fire your head coach. That's usually the fix for a young quarterback.
Starting point is 00:04:30 You fire the head coach, you see if the new guy can come in and change things. You hire the offensive coordinator. Frank Wright's offensive coordinator. So I think he's saying because of that reason. And then you're still willing to trade him. So they just must feel like he can't be successful there. Okay. Now that being said, maybe a change of scenery will work.
Starting point is 00:04:55 But this is a guy who's at an injury history who gets sacked at a very high rate. who's had problems in the locker room and who's coming off a really difficult year. There's a lot of things that he's going to have to do differently and do right to have a different outcome in Indy. So I want to throw this. You used to coach the Jets. I want to throw this at you. So in the AFC East right now, you have Belichick, who's probably the best defensive coach in the history of the league.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Sean McDermott, excellent defensive coach. Brian Flores appears to be doing a really nice job. And the Jets are going to get rid of Donald and go with a rookie quarterback. quarterback. Say to myself, I would rather just keep Darnold, trade that pick, and give Sam more weapons, because I think Sam's got a market. Chris Ballard was interested. I just look at the division and I think to myself, you're going to go with a rookie quarterback with those three defensive coaches? You're trying to climb a mountain. That's my perception. Or are you in the camp of, listen, you got to start over, it's not working with Darnold? Well, I don't know if we
Starting point is 00:05:59 agree or disagree on this point? Because I heard you talking about Sam, Sam Darnold being traded, and whether it's Chicago or Washington. And my thought process is if you really feel like this young quarterback can actually improve and you have the asset in place at the most important position, it makes no sense for the jets to trade them. And like I said, with the Philly situation, usually you change head coaches and you think that's going to help the quarterback that that's there and that it's not a quarterback issue. It's a coaching issue. So yeah, you're absolutely right. If you can keep him and you believe that he has the potential to improve on what he's done, you've got incredible draft capital. You've got incredible money
Starting point is 00:06:47 for free agency. You can trade that pick and get even more draft capital. I think if you can possibly maintain him and feel like you can win, it's the best decision they can make. All right. Here's the disagreement part. We have a lot of those, Colin. We have a lot of those. Okay. So I said before is that there's, you know, you always go on the internet or you read these in magazines.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Like they say, the three or four signs somebody's having an affair. And it's always when they change their habits. Like people, we're all kind of creatures of habit. People start, they won't let you look at their phone. they're coming home later, they work out a lot. And it's like, oh, they're changing habits. So I'm supposed to believe the most detailed, precise, planned organization in the NFL for 20 years, New England. They don't have a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:07:38 They have the worst skill people in the league. Their secondary is deteriorating. They don't have an elite pass rusher. Half of the defensive coaches are either Bill Belichick or his kids. I look at this organization. I'm like, okay, you have all the answers here. If I'm Robert Kraft this morning, they just lost their GM, so Bill has more personnel power, and I don't love him as a drafter. At some point, if I'm Robert Kraft, I'm like, I know you were successful and I love you, Bill.
Starting point is 00:08:06 You tell me what the plan is, because I don't understand. Apparently they weren't interested in Wentz. Stafford said no thanks. At some point, the market's drying up, isn't it, for a quarterback? Well, what you said is habits and changing habits. and I don't think you can look at a lack of activity as a lack of a plan. And what's New England always done? They've never been first week free agency, pay big money guys.
Starting point is 00:08:34 That's not what they've done. They've never rushed to be the first in any place. If anything, Bill's strength, his greatest strength is in that free agency world, is in that acquiring pro-talent world. And so much is going to change. We've seen who would have thought Carson Wentz would be traded or, Jared Goff would be traded. You see the things that have changed already in this small window of time. Over the course of the draft, they could potentially get a quarterback there. You could see
Starting point is 00:09:03 maybe Garoppolo moves. A lot of guys could still move. They're going to assess what comes available as opposed to rushing to make a decision just to make a decision. It's just, it's not how they're wired. And unless they believe it's a significant upgrade, why would they ever go get a guy just to get a guy. So you think Cam, I mean, Garoppolo has not only been hurt three of the last four years, but he's been hurt in week two, week three and week two, which tells you it's one thing if Mahomes gets banged up after 15 weeks of play. If you're hurt by week two, three of the last four years, you're brittle.
Starting point is 00:09:40 There's no other way to get around it. One time he got hurt without getting hit. So Garoppolo doesn't feel like a legitimate, I mean, Bill's not going to sign Garoppolo to a long contract. Look, I was just using Garoppolo as an example. because of their relationship. And you remember when Garoppolo was there making that decision. You were in the New England should keep Garoppolo camp back in the day.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Yeah. And that's actually worked, you know, worked out when they kept Tom. I didn't think Cam Newton would work. And they got Cam in, what, June for basically nothing. And there's a fumble against Buffalo and there's a goal line play against Seattle. Otherwise, that's a nine and seven decision. And, you know, this is a team coming off eight players opting out. They've now got salary cap room.
Starting point is 00:10:28 They have assessed, you know, you're a year removed from the Tom Brady legacy. I think that things will look dramatically different, you know, at the start of the season this year versus where they were last year. All right. Here's another disagreement, bomb. I think, first of all, Pittsburgh sold their soul a little with Ben. They knew. They've known for years.
Starting point is 00:10:50 he doesn't commit in the offseason. They know he's not great with film study. They know he's not always a great teammate with offensive stars. They know he can be dramatic when you draft a quarterback fourth round. They know, I've been told by people who I trust, that their audible system is incredibly remedial. And they've known this for years. And now they're trapped because they placated Ben time and time again,
Starting point is 00:11:16 which is fine when he's in his athletic prime because he was such a unique and special player. Down the stretch, Eric, he was old, and his lack of physical commitment was pretty obvious. He had eight picks in the four games. He was terrible. I'm done. Like, I think they're trapped.
Starting point is 00:11:32 You still like him. We're talking about young quarterbacks that haven't done anything, and then being traded to teams. And if they get traded to those teams, those teams are suddenly going to go to the playoffs. The Steelers won the division last year. they were 12 and 4. He threw 33 touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:11:53 They were dead last in running the football. In the final game of the season, you can kill Ben, but they asked them to throw the ball 68 times. When you think of Steelers football, you think of a really good defense, a really physical and effective running game, and then Ben Rothesberger. Why don't they commit to fixing the running game
Starting point is 00:12:14 and see what Ben can do at that point? And the guys, what's it, 16, 18 seasons, whatever it is, he's had two losing seasons. Two. Two. So we're talking about guys that have barely had any winning seasons going somewhere else as opposed to keeping Ben. You could extend his contract out a year to get the salary cap number down without giving any new money.
Starting point is 00:12:38 And you still have a chance to win. I think they're putting the blame in the wrong spot here. All right. We just don't, we're just going to have to agree to disagree on that. I think he's an old man and he looks. I am so over. Look, a lot of people thought Tom Brady was an old man when he had a poor game, you know, at the end of his last, you know, run in New England.
Starting point is 00:12:59 By the way, what did you make of that? Isn't that just amazing? How, I swear to God, coach in week eight, there were so, I had Bruce Ariens on yesterday, and I said at week eight, there was so much turbulence. I'm like, this is a mess. And I asked him, I said, when did you guys kind of say to yourself privately? Okay, this is working. And he said the buy week, like week 12, like it took a lot.
Starting point is 00:13:22 I am shocked by how good they were. You know what I'm shocked, Eric, how good the offensive line was in the last month. That always been a middling offensive line. I thought they were a dominant unit at the end. What surprised you? My greatest takeaway from that is they started to run the ball more, and they started to do things more in line with what Tom's always done over the last 20 years. They worked the tight ends more.
Starting point is 00:13:45 They work the inside part of the, the offense more. It looked like they were running things that I've always seen Tom run. And you heard the message from Bruce. They gave him more control. They gave him more leeway. And what do you do? You take advantage of the greatest asset you have is Tom's mind.
Starting point is 00:14:06 And when he understands exactly what's taking place and the other guys understand it as well, I mean, he's going to go to the right place with the ball. That to me was the biggest difference is allowing him to just almost take over the offense and then suddenly things transformed. It is amazing, though. It is and great. I love the story. You know where I watch that game, coach? Where?
Starting point is 00:14:32 In a hospital bed. That's not good. I'm just like a picture of American courage. Coach, you're looking at it right here. You are. Your bravery is inspiring. It's like Tom Brady. Colin Coward, those, I'm going to point those out to my boys for bravery and arose.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Enough of you. All right, man, Jeannie. Enjoy Cleveland and snowing again today. Good talking to you. Great to see it, Colin. All right, good stuff. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.
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Starting point is 00:15:29 A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.
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Starting point is 00:16:22 or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm CJ Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before.
Starting point is 00:16:46 And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us
Starting point is 00:17:06 on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running the court, licking his fingers, why he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball.
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Starting point is 00:18:29 I cannot believe I'm about to say this out loud in public. Listen to How Hard Can It Be with Diana Maria Riva as part of my Cultura podcast network available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Alex, with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Well, the NBA All-Star Game starters were revealed yesterday. You have LeBron James, Steph Curry, Luca Donchich,
Starting point is 00:18:56 Niccolo Yokic, and Kwai Leonard will represent the West and in the East. All right, let me look at this. Okay. Go ahead with the East. In the East, you have Kevin Durant, Yonis, Bradley Beal, Joel, and Beed, and Kyrie Irving selected. Kyrie Irving. Yeah, LeBron and KD led the voting, so they are
Starting point is 00:19:12 the two captains and they will draft their teams from the pools of starters in the reserves on March 4. So what do you think of the starting lineup? Do you agree with it? Damien Lillard, I'd probably start over Luca, although Luca's great too. I think Kyrie Irving, I love seeing Bradley Beal in there. I don't have a real problem with the East. They're probably not counting Harding because he played in the West to start. They hadn't played enough games. So I guess you end up with Kyrie, but Kyrie's missed a bunch of starts. I think I'd probably put, I'd probably go Steph and Dame. But listen, Luke is great and he's popular, and I get it.
Starting point is 00:19:56 So the West has more good players. Let's be honest. When Dame Lillard can't start for your All-Star team, that's tough. He's a first ballot hall of fame. Are you a fan of the All-Star game? Yeah, I'll watch it. I'm not into the, I'm not really into the shooting contest.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Dunk stuff doesn't do much for me. Really? Not really. Like, it's not even, I'm not really into the game. I always watch parts of it. You know, I keep it on. Yeah. I think the only All-Star game I really like is the baseball all-star game.
Starting point is 00:20:26 For some reason, to be able to see a dominant National League pitcher against a red-hot American league hitter like a Mike Trout. I mean, you could have Walker Bueller this year, or you could have Trevor Bauer against Mike Trout. And you're just not going to see that very much. So I always love the first couple of innings of the Major League Baseball Hallstoy game. When you get the hottest pitchers and the greatest hitters, and you may never see them in their careers facing one another. So that's the part of the all.
Starting point is 00:20:54 The first three innings of the All-Star game in baseball, I think are great. And it used to mean something. The winner of the MLB All-Star game used to have home field advantage. All right, moving on. The Steelers have not committed to Ben Rothlisberger next season, even though he has made it clear he wants to return. The team did add some depth at the quarterback position by signing, Wayne Haskins and GM Kevin Colbert is looking forward to seeing what he will do in Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:21:18 He said we are excited to see what Dwayne can do with us. It didn't work out for him in Washington. We had high grades on Dwayne coming out of Ohio State. He's young. He's a talented quarterback and we're anxious to see what he can do once he gets here and gets working with us. And this is so telling on their feelings about Big Ben. This has got to be a gut punch because they just said the other day we're not committing to Ben and now they're saying they're excited about another quarterback on their roster. Well, I like Dwayne Haskins out of college, too. He's big and strong and throws an accurate football.
Starting point is 00:21:48 His thing's maturity. So for him, this is a really good move because the Steelers historically are grown-ups. There's not a lot of dysfunction. There is some drama. But when you're young and immature, that's why Kevin Stefansky was so important for Baker Mayfield. Staphansky brought him down.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Baker had, I thought, his most mature year. He felt like more of a franchise quarterback. So for Haskins, he needs to grow up. And this is an organization that holds you accountable growing up, hopefully. It does. Moving on to another young quarterback. Justin Herbert had an incredible first season in the NFL, earning the Offensive Rookie of the Year Award.
Starting point is 00:22:30 And with his entire career ahead of him, he's looking to build off his hot start by turning to none other than the goat for inspiration. I think anyone should aspire to me like Tom Brady to have. have as much success as he's had for as long as he's been able to do it. I don't think there's anyone that's ever done anything like that before. To win, that's the ultimate goal of the quarterback position is to put your team in a position to win. He's been able to do that. He's a competitor, and he finds a way to win, and I think that's the best part about it. Love that. He just does it right. Herbert does it right. Yeah, he is really, he is really
Starting point is 00:23:09 the Chargers. You know how good it is to feel? You know, we have a, nine teams looking for quarterbacks. How great does it feel to be Kansas City or the Chargers where you're like, oh, we're good here for 10 years? Yeah. You start looking around the league. You've either got like Josh Allen for Buffalo. They're good for a decade. It's amazing, Alex, how few teams can say that.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Like, three words, we're good here. Like it's either the old quarterback or he's coming up on a contract. I mean, as good as Aaron Rogers is. He's now 37. They've drafted his replacement. There's only about five teams in the league that can say this morning, we're good here for a decade, and the Chargers are one of them. It's great.
Starting point is 00:23:51 He said he was reaching out to Drew Breeze when he got there, former coach. He sent you a get well soon signed football. This kid does it right. He really, he knows who to follow him. He does. I'll tell you that. Alex for the news. Well, that's the news.
Starting point is 00:24:06 And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Lie News. Buy seller hold on a football Friday next. sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced
Starting point is 00:24:22 games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having
Starting point is 00:24:38 trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clivert Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football,
Starting point is 00:24:58 or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand-new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations,
Starting point is 00:25:29 stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and a TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva, actress, mother, lover, and a Gen X woman walking through life one hot flash and hormonal crying jag at a time. You ladies know what I mean. I'll bet you a paramedipausal chin here you do. So let's talk about it.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Join me on my new podcast. How Hard Can It Be with Deanna Maria Riva, where I call on my Gen X squads from Ohio to Hollywood as we navigate midlife's most fantastic BS. All of a sudden, I'd had hanginess happening on my own. I was like, what the hell is that? I was married when I had her, so I didn't even consider how empty that nest was going to be. Mood swings, night sweats, fupas, sex drive.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Wait, what sex? Dating at 45. How can it be getting naked at 50 with the new guy? That one's kind of hard, well, that's lighting. They say we can't polish a turd, but we're sure going to try. So let's get blunt. with laughs, tears or tears of laughter, and dive into it unfiltered and unbothered and ask, how hard can it be?
Starting point is 00:26:44 I cannot believe I'm about to say this out loud in public. Listen to How Hard Can It Be with Diana Maria Riva as part of my Coutura podcast network available on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed.
Starting point is 00:27:07 And finding ways to win. no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows. Without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series
Starting point is 00:27:25 because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quinton-Virms, Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing. That man, hell get to flyin.
Starting point is 00:27:45 He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, good to have you in on a Friday. Jason McIntyre is out skiing with his fam this week, so he's off today. So we're going to play a game of buy, sell, or hold. I'm your stock broker.
Starting point is 00:28:10 I'm your money manager. Alex asked me a question. I say, buy it, sell it, or hold. I'm not sure. Here we go. Time to. Buy. Colin will decide if he'll buy.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Buy it. Sell. Or hold. All right. We're starting Big Ben. Will he be the starting quarterback for the Steelers in 2021? Buy, buy, buy. He's a huge cap hit.
Starting point is 00:28:41 They don't. have anybody else. Dwayne Haskins is not the answer. They went 12 and 4. He's still wildly popular with fans. I think it's time to move off him. I think you've sold your soul for the last several years for him, but he'll be the starting quarterback. Sam Darnold will start the season with the Jets. Sell, sell, sell, sell. I think it's the smart thing to do. I think you can get, first of all, you got two first rounders with the Jamal Adams trade. You can get two or three first rounders for a Zach Wilson trade. Number two, you could literally solve all your dilemmas by the second round. But in the end, GMs and coaches like their own guys, he's 1122 in his first
Starting point is 00:29:25 last first three years with the team. I think they're going to move off him and have a rookie quarterback go up against Belichick, Brian Flores, and Sean McDermott for the next couple years, and go 0 and 6 in division for the next couple years. Odo Buckham Jr. will be traded this offseason. By. Buy, by, bye, bye. Yeah, I mean, listen, he's got the second largest contract on the Browns, and he's not the second best player.
Starting point is 00:29:49 And let's just be totally frank here. Baker Mayfield was better when he got hurt. That's not an indictment on him. It's a reality. When Baker plays with O'Dell, he feels a need to force it to his star receiver, and Baker plays much better, like Dak Prescott always has,
Starting point is 00:30:06 sprinkling the ball around the infield, having multiple targets with a strong running game. All right, JJ Watt will be a Packer next season. Hold. Biggest concern is JJ Watt's putting it out there. He's trying to create a bidding war. He's one of the few, if not the only defensive players
Starting point is 00:30:26 in the NFL with the brand. Doesn't sound he wants a pay cut. And the Packers historically don't go into bidding wars. In fact, right now the Packers are not the favorite on the betting market to land him. Deshawn Watson will play for the 49ers in 2021. That's a sell to me. I don't think it's a perfect fit. Kyle Shanahan's system is very run-centric.
Starting point is 00:30:51 He's also said Deshaun has said his top preference is the Jets because they hired Robert Sala. So I still think the Niners run it back one more year with Jimmy Garoppolo. I think if they could engineer a move for Darnold, They wouldn't have to give up much. I just, I don't see Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch wanting to start over four picks, give up multiple players. I just doesn't feel right to me. So with that being said, Jimmy Garoppolo will return to the Patriots. Hold.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Hold, please. This is the only one that works. They don't have a plan at quarterback. Garapolo knows the system. My concern is he's 24 and 8 starting in the NFL. and outside of maybe Donald, I do not believe Kyle Shanahan is going to go to a rookie quarterback. Again, the Niners see themselves as a Super Bowl team. Are they frustrated with Garoppolo's health?
Starting point is 00:31:50 Absolutely. There's no doubt they're very frustrated. We've seen three different stories that obviously are out there, probably for Garoppolo's agent to see, they're not happy with him. But just because you're frustrated with Kirk Cousins doesn't mean you're going to move, just because you're frustrated with Garoppolo. Niners have a Super Bowl roster. They get Debo Samuel back, George Kettle back, Bosa back.
Starting point is 00:32:13 So I don't see him going anywhere. The Browns will sign Baker Mayfield to an extension this off season. Hold. Hold, please. He just had his first winning season. The Browns had their first winning season since 2007. I still think they want to see more. And my question with Baker is, okay, he had his best year.
Starting point is 00:32:39 It was a little fool's gold. They were outscored as a team. And eight of their wins were against bad teams. And Baker has a little bit of ego. Does he come off his first playoff win with eight new commercials? Remember a couple years ago he came out. A lot of commercials put on weight. Wasn't in the best shape.
Starting point is 00:33:01 I want to see how he reacts after success before I sign a. him up. I love his commercials. Doc Prescott signs an extension with the Cowboys. Buy, buy, buy, buy. Listen, they won just four of 11 games without him. They've won the NFC East two of the four years. He's been the guy.
Starting point is 00:33:20 It's a numbers game at this point. Franchise tagging him's 37, 38 million. Can you get him for 30, 32? Stretch the contract out for five years. They'll sign him. Derek Carr will be back with the Raiders in 2021. That's a buy. Buy, buy, buy.
Starting point is 00:33:36 He's the only thing saving the Raiders. Third straight year with 4,000 passing yards. The Colts, very well-run team, were interested in Derek Carr. He just had a career high 101.4 passer rating. I think Gruden is realizing there's questions with the draft picks, the defense. I don't think, I don't, there's questions about the Raiders after Thanksgiving. They've really disintegrated post- Thanksgiving last two years. I think they're 8-and-8 because of Derek Carr.
Starting point is 00:34:10 I think he's what gets them to 8-night. I think with lesser quarterbacks, it's a 5-11 team. And finally, Cam Newton will play for the Washington football team. That seems like an obvious sell. Sell, sell, sell. I mean, they took his backup. Ron Rivera, I don't think was ever a fan. You know, it's funny with Cam.
Starting point is 00:34:29 There's some value there. I'm not so sure New England's going to move off him. They haven't shown, I mean, Stafford didn't want to play there. They weren't interested in Wentz. Garoppolo, you're going to sign a long-term deal with his history of injuries. I don't think Belichick loves Sam Darnold because he's dominated him. I still think Camzaline to New England. I really do.
Starting point is 00:34:51 And I don't think Washington. I think Washington works with Sam Darnold completely. That doesn't even feel right to me. So there we go. Buy, sell, and hold. Want to thank Sam Amick with some NBA talk today. Dalvin Cook, great running back for the Vikings. Andrew Whitworth, Pro Bowl left tackle for the Rams.
Starting point is 00:35:12 And Eric Mangini and I disagreed on virtually everything. Justin Turner or the Dodgers stops by Monday. I can't wait for the baseball season. Well, again, I'm being biased. The Dodgers could be the most talented baseball team. we have seen in the sport in over a decade. Oh, yeah. They are stacked.
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