The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 02/23/2021 - HOUR 3 - NBA, Eagles

Episode Date: February 23, 2021

Colin talks about the Nets, LeBron's latest comments, and floppingThe Eagles will most likely be rebuildingGuests: Antonio Daniels, Jon Ritchie Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He does Fox Sports New Orleans. So he's a Pelican guy. He's a Zion Williamson guy, who I love. I wish there were more Zion Williamson's in the league because I like guys who dunk and I like guys who initiate contact. I like physical throwback players. And I think Zion Williamson does that. And Antonio is now joining me live. You know, it's interesting.

I think Zion is a blast. I love him. I love his game. Are you a little surprised how effective. he's been. I saw a stat the other day. He's shooting 66% in the month of February. That hasn't happened since Barclay in 83. Are you surprised at all by his effectiveness? I'm not. I'm not. You know, the thing is, if you go back to the beginning of last year, prior to everything going on with COVID, I was blessed to be at every practice of training camp. So the moment that Zion got there,

I was blessed to be there for the entire journey. And to see how dominant that he was, not just with his own team, but in the preseason of that time, you knew that he was going to do some special things. What has surprised me, I think, more than anything. And maybe it took Stan Van Gundy getting this head coaching job, but he's unlocked, he's unlocked something special. He's unlocked the point forward, you know, sort of like Janus, where Zion's initiating the offense. Because the thing I didn't know that he can do a lot, I didn't realize that his basketball IQ is what it was and his skill set with his ability to handle the basketball is what it was as well. So what we're seeing this year is a little bit different, Zion, and they're moving him all over

the floor. Yeah, no, he does initiate the offense. And, you know, he always had great self-awareness as a college star with a shoe incident. I always thought his quotes were very self-aware. I wasn't that self-aware at 19, 20 years old, so I'd like to hear you say that. So I got to be honest, I, James Harden, Kyrie, Kevin Durant, that just felt like Tinderbox emotionally. Are you a little surprised how effective it's been? On our serious XM radio show, I put Brooklyn the moment that James Hardin was traded to Brooklyn to go to the finals. This is the thing.

We kind of forget the era that we're in in the NBA. This is a scoring era where it's extremely difficult to play legitimate defense. All of the rules favor the offensive player. Yeah. I'll tell you what. I'm going to tell you what you do. You give me Kyrie Irving's talent. You give me Kevin Durant's talent.

You give me James Harden's talent. And we'll figure it out. I'll figure it out. Give me the talent first. Give me the talent first. And I'll figure out the rest later. Everybody's worrying about the wrong stuff. Well, what if this guy?

What if that's got? No, no, no. Give me the talent and give me the opportunity to figure it out. Give me a guy like Joe Harris, who skill set complements exactly what they do well. Give me a guy like James Hardin who has led this league in assist and points and three pointers made and free throws made. Give me that guy. Give me Kevin Durant one to one in NBA history at seven foot. I'll figure the rest out later. So you told me during the break you disagreed with me.

LeBron leads the NBA in minutes and he's 38 years old. Everybody else, it's load management, it's minute restrictions, it's my hamstrings hurt. And I'm like, can you just play? I mean, But you don't, I like LeBron's sort of Akron Ohio mantra, which is, I punch a time clock, this is what I do. I would think as an old school basketball player, you'd love that. But you know, the thing that we have to do, Colin, we have to readjust our goggles because we are not in the old school era anymore. And it is no longer a badge of honor. Guys don't consider the badge of honor to play 82 games anymore. And LeBron James is not going to talk about, which he shouldn't.

he's not going to talk about low management. He's not going to talk about games off. You know why? Because he knows that we will. So when it comes down to the narrative and we start talking about the MVP, right now, if you have LeBron James ahead of Joelle M.B. Or Kevin Durant or Kawhi Leonard or a lot of other guys that are on this list, what's your reasoning and rationale as to why?

Because he has not missed a basketball game yet. So the thing is, he doesn't have to discuss the narrative about the amount of minutes that he's playing or the fact that he hasn't missed an NBA game yet because he understands that when we talk about the end and have the MVP conversation, there has to be a narrative involved somewhere.

So he doesn't have to discuss it because we'll discuss it for him. So Joy and I disagreed with this earlier. Antonio Daniels joining us. The James Harden-Cawai-Lennardt thing. I like floppers because I think manipulation of officiating is part

of the game. and so you don't like this at all. I think most floppers are the smartest guys in sports, and sometimes it's acting. And I told Joy this. Sometimes when my wife, I got to pretend I'm outraged to get my way on stuff, and I flop.

I verbally flop in my life, and I think it's very effective. Okay, here's the thing. I don't blame the players for this, because I'm assuming Joy said that she doesn't like the floppy. She doesn't like it. I'm with her. But here's the thing is,

I think it's a two-way street because a lot of times this falls on the players, where the player's job is to manipulate the officials, which is that exactly what you just spoke to about. I'm more upset for the fact that guys continue to be rewarded for flopping. Not for flopping. It's the fact that they're being rewarded for flopping. Because the thing is, once players stop getting rewarded for flopping, then the flopping will cease. but as long as guys continue to be rewarded for the flopping, it'll continue to happen.

I'm not, no, I get it. This is called the game within the game. Right. Because if I can fool the officials to thinking that this was an offensive foul by Kauai Leonard or when LeBron James got thrown to the ground, if I can fool the officials as opposed to getting mad at James Hardin right here and saying, oh my gosh, I can't believe he's popping. That's what he's supposed to do.

His job is to win the game. But my frustration falls on the fact that he is being rewarded for this, especially in a game that's this crucial and this point in the game. That's good stuff by you. You brought a lot of energy today. I really appreciate that because I didn't sleep with crap last night. I needed energy and you brought it. Are you doing okay? You feel good during all this travel and pandemic. Are you okay? How you feel? I'm blessed, man. I am extremely blessed. I have nothing whatsoever to complain about. You know, my family's healthy. I just wish that we can get back to some sense of normalcy. You never really realize how important fans are until the arena until they're not there. So when New Orleans, we're starting to get fans back in the arena,

and we have a exciting basketball team with Zion, with Brandon Ingle, with Wazzo Ball. So I have no complaints whatsoever. I am truly a blessed man. Good. Well, I like watching a plan. I love Zion. And Antonio, it's an absolute pleasure to talk to you again. Always, brother. It's always good to see you. You guys stay safe.

All right. He works Fox Sports, New Orleans. Great energy, doesn't he? Just pops every time he's on. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win.

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Oh, it feels like it's going to be so long before we get to see all these storylines play out. Because I just can't, I can't wait to see what the Lions are this year. Dan Campbell, obviously, had a very memorable press conference when he was introduced as the Lions Head Coach. He got plenty of criticism for it, including on this show. And he doesn't care if people think he's a Meathead. He said, I said this to Chris Spielman the other day. I was like, I love the fact that we're only known as Meatheads.

I'm a Meathead. I have limited brain capacity. I like the people think that. I'm good with that. You know what I mean? I have zero problem with it. Look, here's my issue with this. At surface, you may think, oh, he's just saying he doesn't care of people think about him.

I can get down with that. There's a value to blocking out the noise of what other people think about you. I don't think. And then there's the value of, okay, well, people are underestimating me. They think I'm stupid. There's a value to that as well. you have lower expectations, you can outdo them because they're underestimating you. But I don't know if that's what he's saying.

I think he's just saying, I don't care if people think I'm a meathead. If I act meatheadish or whatever, it doesn't matter. I don't think it matters to anybody else, but it does matter to the guys in the locker room. Everybody is not a meathead. Everybody doesn't respond to that, run through a wall stuff. And I also think that that has a limited shelf life. I think at one point or another, people are tired of listening to the yelling, and they just want, what's the game plan? What is what what what? What's the plan?

I don't think you have to say everything that's in your head. No. I mean, if I thought that, I wouldn't say it. You know, it's, I'm not going to name the coach, but I was talking to a football player, bright guy. And his university hired a new coach. And this was about eight, ten years ago. And the coach came in to introduce himself to the players, you know, right? And he was a smart player and his best buddy on the team was also a smart player.

player. And he said, we knew five minutes in, our coach is an idiot. Oh, it's just, it's, it's the worst, it's the worst feeling. And he was saying, knowing the person that is leading you is not, not competent. And he said he goes, he goes, all the smart guys in the room, we're all like for the next two days. Our coach is dumb. He goes, all the dumb players are, guys aren't self-aware. They're like, yeah. He goes, but we, the smart guys in the room knew instantly, it's like, we're going to get out coached most days in our college. football conference. I don't know if he is going to be a great coach or not. I know what he did in Miami. I wasn't into it when it was in Miami. Again, I don't think, I think the raw, raw stuff

only lasts for so long. Everyone around the league seems to like him and has respect for him. I wish him long. I'm not rooting against him in any way. I just, I personally don't buy into that. And I'm with you. I think that, I think that your first press conference does matter. It's not everything, but it is something. And as a head coach, it is part of your job to talk to the media. And sell yourself. Yes, and to talk to fans and to talk to the guys in the locker room and to talk to your staff. So how you speak, how you present yourself matters. If you have a bad press conference, it's not unreasonable for people to react in a negative way to it. That's part of your job. No, you don't get paid to speak. But in some ways, you do get paid to present yourself. And I,

I don't know. I'm just, we'll see how it goes. He doesn't care if we think he was a meathead, though. So wide receiver, Devante Smithcott passes from both Tua and Mack Jones at Alabama. He was asked to pick between the two quarterbacks at an interview at the Super Bowl. And according to Albert Breyer, the question was barely finished before Smith answered Mack Jones. He was bold and definitive about it as I heard it. So that's his opinion on those two quarterbacks, both of whom he played with.

I think one thing that happens with Alabama quarterbacks is that we see a lot of them. And we see them in big moments. And if they have success, we kind of start to lean towards maybe it's not just the pieces around them. I didn't really love Tua coming out of the draft. It was way higher on Joe Burrow. Admittedly, I bought in once the dolphins committed to him. And I am very much unsure about what he is. capable of, and if it was up to me, I would trade for Deshawn Watson. I don't know what

Matt Jones is. I think he has to go to a perfect situation. It's really hard to evaluate quarterbacks from a program like Alabama that is there every single year, that gets great players every single year. There's never any controversy. There's never anything to overcome. I mean, you're throwing to the, you're throwing to the Heisman winner. Look at the video. Look at the video. The guys are eight yards off. That doesn't have. It's not going to happen in the NFL. And I'm not saying he's not capable. And I'm not saying he didn't perform in the biggest moments he did.

But how do you evaluate? Look at that. Like, when is that happening? That's never happening. That might happen once every six games in the NFL that some coverage breaks down. But you're not throwing to a wide receiver that open. And I get it doesn't happen every time. But I don't know.

I'm with you. I think I don't like to pick a bus. But if I have to. I just, I don't know. I don't know how to evaluate a player like that. With that ball gets picked in the NFL, let's watch this one. That's a good throw. That's a good throw.

Let me see another one. Again, it's not that I don't think he's incapable. I don't think he has busts written all over him. That ball's underthrown. It depends on where he goes. I don't think he's a, I don't think he is capable of going to the Bengals and making them relevant right away. The way that Joe Burrow did. He's not Joe Burrow.

God, no. So Carson Wentz wore number 11 with the Eagles, but that number is our number. already taken by Michael Pittman on the Colts. And Pittman said the two had the chance to talk about who will get the number moving forward. He was just seeing like how, how like locked in I was to 11 and I told him that I was locked in. And he was like, that's cool, bro, because I'm probably

going to switch anyway. Lots of guys with his status, like, they would come in and they would like demand and stuff like that. So I just think that he's a really great dude. He did not give it up. Well, right now, Pittman is an emerging star and Wentz has to prove himself. I'm not giving it up either. I was intrigued by this story because generally you're going to give up the number to the starting quarterback.

And Michael Pittman didn't want to give it up. I think it's interesting. I do think it says something. I know that Michael's saying like he likes that he was cool and he wasn't. difficult about it and that he thinks that, you know, someone of his status could be. But I actually think it's, I think it's something. I don't know if I'd want to give my number up. I mean, if I'm, if I'm, some young hot shot comes in, it looks at Derek Jeter, can I have two?

I'd be like, no. It's my number. I mean, I think it depends on who's asking you. If Tom Brady comes in, you got to give up number 12. Well, it depends. What if I'm Mike Evans? I'm not giving up number 12. You want to be the guy that denied Tom Brady his jersey number?

I'd be like, you're married to a supermodel. enough in life. I'm not giving you the number. That's it. Come on. I wouldn't ask for it. I think it's weird to ask for it. Didn't Chris, didn't Chris Godwin have? Yeah, but Chris Godwin's their number two receiver. So you're doing Mike Evans. I could not, to me, I could not ask somebody to give their number up. I'm uncomfortable with that. Like, it's your number. I'm a new guy. I want to prove myself. I don't know. I mean, that's why I think this is kind of an interesting story, because I think if it's Carson Wentz, I don't think he has the juice right now to push for that number. But, you know, if I'm Tom Brady, but everybody loves Tom Brady.

It'd have to be somebody who's like, players love, like they admire him. Like, that's the goat. I don't know. I'm probably asking for the number, though. All right. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.

The Herd Lie News. John Ritchie next in Philadelphia. He can be controversial. He'll fill us in on cool stuff next. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the I-Hawr Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged.

It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the iHeart Radio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what y'all saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions,

my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite

athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrate. One week I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where

you need to be. Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford. and a TikTok podcast network on TikTok. The story I've told myself about love or relationships can then shape my behavior, and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection. This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast deeply well with Debbie Brown

and explore the journey of healing, self-discovery, and returning to yourself. We explore higher consciousness, emotional well-being, and the practices that help you find clarity, peace, and self-mastery in a world that can feel overwhelming. The world is becoming lonelier. We're not becoming more social and connected. We're becoming more individualized, but we actually meet people in connection. If you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you to hear more.

Listen to deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever. you get your podcast. Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva, actress, mother, lover, and a Gen X woman walking through life one hot flash and hormonal crying jag at a time. You ladies know what I mean. I'll bet you a perimenopausal chin here you do. So let's talk about it.

Join me on my new podcast. How hard can it be with Deanna Maria Riva, where I call on my Gen X squads from Ohio to Hollywood as we navigate midlife's most fantastic BS. All of a sudden, I'd had hanginess happening on my own. I was like, what the hell is that? I was married when I had her, so I didn't even consider how empty that nest was going to be. Mood swings, night sweats, fupas, sex drive. Wait, what sex?

Dating at 45. How high can it be getting naked at 50 with the new guy? That one's kind of hard, you know? Well, that's lighting. They say we can't polish a turd, but we're sure going to try. So let's get blunt with laughs, tears or tears of laughter, and dive into it, unfiltered and unbothered and ask, How hard can it be? I cannot believe I'm about to say this out loud in public.

Listen to How Hard Can It Be with Diana Maria Riva as part of my Cultura podcast network available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, we'll have more information on this as it comes in. Tiger Woods got in an accident today in Los Angeles. His car rolled. He's in a hospital right now. They had to extricate him from the car. We don't know the severity of it. It happened at 7 in the morning.

so Tiger Woods by himself in a car kind of rolled it up in the rolling hill estates of Palos Verdes, which is about a half hour from my house, a beautiful area, by the way. It's very hilly, a lot of topography, kind of a windy road area. We'll update you as we know more. John Ritchie played in the NFL for seven years, now a popular talk show host in Philadelphia at WIP, and he's real popular and he's real outspoken, and he's, boy, he called everything with Philadelphia, and he is now joining us live. So let's start with this.

Carson Wentz got traded. They didn't waste a lot of time. Your initial reaction, John, to it was what? Shock or saw it coming? We knew he didn't want to play in Philly anymore. It's being reported that at the Nobuquer facility, the Eagles complex, there is a sense of like sullen, somber loss. And everyone, we as Eagle fans and followers, we recognize that, you know, you created this.

This was essentially Carson saying, I'm not playing for you anymore because I don't have a chance to succeed when you've got Howfrey running the show. How free is a, you know, conglomeration of Howie Roseman and Jeffrey Lurie. When Halifrey's running it, I can't succeed. So I won out of here. No one was surprised about that. The same thing happened with Doug Peterson. They expected to have him back. And then he said, wait, you know what?

Until you start letting me be the coach I can be, I don't want to be here any longer. So, yeah, they brought it on themselves. We were not surprised. We had a sense of, I felt sympathy for Carson Wentz with the way he was supported. It was a horrendous, horrendous offensive scheme, a horrendous offensive line, as we know, so many different assortments of guys. No one to throw to. And I think he did the right thing for his career. What are they going to do with the number six draft pick now?

Well, it's interesting. The beat guys are reporting they would not be surprised if the Eagles went quarterback again. And this comes on the heels of Howie Roseman referring to Philadelphia as a quarterback factory after he drafted Jalen Hertz last year. It sort of feels like, I don't know, conceding defeat and failure on the Hertz pick if you go first round quarterback once again. Yeah. But the fact is Jalen Hertz, while he looked promising at times, you know, especially against the Saints when he led. the Eagles to a victory, there were shortcomings in his game. And no one really knows for sure if he would have looked better with a better offensive line, with better receivers, with better

scheme. But the fact remains, this is a guy who was projected to be a second or a third round draft pick. And now they have an opportunity to potentially trade up to get the second overall quarterback, second overall pick in this year's draft. I'm keen on Zach Wilson. I believe Jalen Hertz has shown all the intangibles and the leadership qualities that you're looking for. I'm just not sold on him as an arm. And I think Zach Wilson has better arm talent and ability than Jalen Hertz does while still fitting into the modern mold of being able to hurt you with his own read. Nick Sariani had a pretty brutal first press conference. I could watch,

I mean, Joy and I watched that one time and I'm like, it was like somebody struggling on Jeopardy. I'm like, I can't, this is embarrassing. I can't, I can't watch it. It's, I'm uncomfortable. What was the reaction in Philadelphia? What was the reaction? The reaction was you told us that you,

you interviewed 20 different qualified candidates and this was the best that you could find. I don't understand that. A lot of people were up in arms that Duce Daly wasn't given more of an opportunity. You know, he's now moved on. Just like Doug Peterson did, just like Carson Wentz did, Duce Daley, the running back coach and offensive, you know, high-up assistant, asked out of town because he didn't feel like he was given the proper weight in his interview,

despite the fact that his interview went well. No, I think everyone thinks Nick Sieriani is in Philly and in place because he's, was the most qualified candidate who would say yes to everything that Howfrey asks. That's the bottom line. No one knows if he's a good coach. Everyone hopes he is. Time will tell. But we know that he is complicit with the plan, which is let the owner and let Howl Free decide on everything that takes place in that building. By the way, Philadelphia is a very verbal town. a very outspoken town and they're prideful of their teams. Is there a sense in Philly now the front office is just simply not capable of

turning this thing around? Yes, I think so. I mean, it's unabashed hatred in most corners of the fan spectrum right now. And we actually have people talking about just tossing this entire season. You know, throwing this season, like Doug Peterson, well, Sorry, like Halifree did week 17 of the regular season for the Eagles when they threw that game. Throw the regular season in 2021. Trade away Brandon Graham.

Trade away Brandon Brooks. Just like they're unloading the big contracts right now. Trade away Darius Slay. Get what you can on these older guys now because you're 31st. Your position 31st in the league in terms of cap room. You're not going to be able to buy help. You can't draft help. You have to look forward to 2022 at this point.

You've got Eagle fans who are saying this season is a loss. Let's cut those losses. Get what we can now and move on. Yeah, I've got to be honest with you. I appreciate that. Most fan bases are not willing to do that. I could make a very compelling argument. That's exactly what you should do.

Okay, John Ritchie. They're the worst team in the division. They're the worst team in the division. The division is not good. I don't think there's any question right now. former Eagle fullback played seven NFL seasons. He's on WIP, 94 WIP. I love having you on the show, buddy, and we will talk.

We're going to talk to you before the draft as well. I appreciate that. Sounds great, Colin. Love you. You're the greatest. Talk to you whenever you want. All right. John Ritchie used to work with him at the other place.

I just want to update you on the Tiger stuff. By the way, John Ritchie actually went to college with Tiger Woods. We talked about it. This morning, 7.12 in the morning. Tiger Woods in a car by himself rolled it on the border of rolling hills estates and ranchos palace verdies. Bizarrely, I know what that's at.

It's not far from my house. I've been on that road before. The vehicle sustained major damage. Tiger was the sole occupant of the car. He was extricated from the wreck with what they call the jaws of life. That's serious. He was then transported. to a local hospital by an ambulance for his injuries.

The investigations being conducted by LAPD. It's a very windy, narrow roads. Palos Verdes is almost a peninsula. It's, you know, I wouldn't say treacherous, but it's a, I've been on some roads before where, you know, it's just thin pavement, no yellow line in the middle, and you go around a lot of blind corners. There are a lot of photos now of the, I guess they have helicopter footage of the rollover, and it's rough.

It looks like it is a courtesy car from the tournament. Yeah, there's like a label on this. Okay. Oh, the Genesis Cimitational, yeah. Okay, so his agent Mark Steinberg put out a statement. He suffered multiple leg injuries currently in surgery. So, I mean, that's almost good news. it could have been, if it's surgery on your leg,

there's a lot of other outcomes that could have been far worse. Yeah, hopefully he's okay. There's a lot of, obviously, everybody's getting information at the same time here. Right. So, listen, it's, treacherage is the wrong word.

It is a interesting place. In Los Angeles, there's like Mulholland Drive and Palos Verdes, a lot of windy, around blind corners, and there's a lot of traffic, and not always the greatest signage. It's a place I try not to drive much. So good luck to Tiger Woods.

Seven in the morning. Taken out. Surgery's now. Appreciate the update from his agent Mark Steinberg. All right. That's where we're at today. And I think we're going to end it there. The very latest show after us.

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