The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 02/25/2021 - Best of The Herd

Episode Date: February 25, 2021

Colin discusses the disconnect between Russell Wilson and the Seahawks organization and why Seattle needs to change course and make their franchise star happy again. He also takes a look at the free agency market of remaining quarterbacks and why it's bad news for the Patriots. Colin reacts to a report involving the 4 teams Russell Wilson would accept a trade to and which one would be the best landing spot. Former NFL Scout Daniel Jeremiah joins the show to do a LIVE Mock Draft with Colin covering the first 16 picks. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversation. with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok.

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A couple hours from now, Daniel Jeremiah, former NFL, Scout and I will draft half of the first round in real time live. We will have a draft of the first 16 picks in the NFL draft. I cannot wait to do that. You know, Joy, this is my life. This is all I do. And now that I live in a hotel for two weeks, which, by the way, I left my phone there today. I literally have no phone, you know.

I'm just a mess right now. My mother does that, like just leaves her phone places. It'll be like other people's houses. Like you didn't check, like, no? I mean, when you're living a whole, I'm eating Mata Ball Soup every day. I'm sleeping with my pants on. I mean, it's just a, I mean, the whole thing, I'm just, I don't got my dogs. I don't have my wife.

I wish we were doing like a YouTube reality series of Colin's life at the hotel. It's not good. So, eventually, sports gives us answers. Joy and I were talking about this yesterday. When you watch those documentaries like Michael Jordan, I mean, you kind of hear about stuff, but there's nothing better than a great sports movie or a great sports book or a great sports article to give you all the little rumors gossip and innuendo. So for the last month, Russell Wilson and his people been taking shots at Pete Carroll.

And I've told you for the last year, Pete's not really into Russ. And Russ used to be, but he's not really into Pete. And when Paul Allen, the owner, died, he was very passionate about. about football. His sister now owns the team. She's not that interested. She doesn't have the eagle eye on Pete Carroll. And Pete now runs the franchise. It is Pete's franchise. John Snyder doesn't have final say in personnel. Russell Wilson has little say in anything. It is a power, lobsided power dimension. Pete's got all of it. And this morning in the athletic, They write the article, multiple sources.

This is explosive. Apparently, before a Thursday night game against Arizona, Russell was struggling, came in, left the room furious with coaches dismissing his ideas. Russell Wilson went to receive man of the year during the Super Bowl, sat next to Roger Goodell, and seed as he watched Tom Brady rarely get hit on the offensive line. Russell Wilson went back to Pete Carroll and said, can we talk about what we're going to do with the offensive line? And Russell Wilson was dismissed.

Tom Brady has never been dismissed in Tampa. Mahomes is never dismissed in Kansas City. This article lays it out. Pete has no interest in Russell Wilson's ideas, thoughts, schemes, or coaching ideas. He's not interested. And let's be honest. Pete's never really. totally been into Russell Wilson.

He sent the general manager, John Snyder, to scout Josh Allen out of Wyoming. That made Russell and his agent furious. And according to the athletic story today, they would have absolutely drafted Mahomes if he falls to them. Now, come on. If you have Mahomes, you don't draft Russell Wilson. And if you have Russell Wilson, you don't draft Mahomes. They're just not that into him. I've been told Russell was into Pete Carroll, but now he's been sacked 394 times in nine years.

and he's over it. Look at the last five stars in any sport that have left a coach that's successful. Brady Belichick, who won. Kauai Popovich, who won. Aaron Rogers McCarthy, who's looked better. KD. and Steve Kerr, sorry, but the Warriors are no longer a championship team. KD. wins. And Chris Paul and Doc.

The star always lands on his feet and flourishes. I've seen this with my business. the Bill Simmons will end up flourishing somewhere. It's the networks that have the hole. There's always going to be a taker for a great player. Pete Carroll is sub-500 in the NFL without Russell Wilson. And this is where Pete has a hole. Russell Wilson was dogged at North Carolina State.

This is his sensibility. He had to transfer out of North Carolina State. Because after three great years, Russell Wilson's coach dismissed him. to Mike Glennon. So that's in his DNA. Russell's sensitive about that. He goes to Wisconsin and literally lights up the Big Ten,

best numbers ever for Wisconsin football offense. And he doesn't get drafted until the third round. So Russell Wilson has a right to be a little defensive. He is also the greatest player in NFL history who's never received a single MVP vote. Not a vote. So Russell Wilson's reality is, my college coach, even though I was a star, I had to transfer. I go to Wisconsin.

I set school records. I get drafted in the third round. I take a losing coach and make him a Hall of Famer, Pete Carroll. I don't get a single MVP vote. I'm sorry, but I'm going to defend Russell Wilson if he's a little defensive getting sacked 394 times in nine years. He's a little defensive. He's a little gun shy when he's dismissal. by coaches. And the last five-star players who have been dismissed from their team or the coaches

parted or there's been a divorce, the players won every single time. So now, is Russell Wilson replaceable? Well, Oprah Winfrey was irreplaceable on daytime TV. Howard Stern was irreplaceable FM radio. Michael Jordan, the Bulls have never been the same, was irreplaceable for the NBA and the Bulls. LeBron three for three has been irreplaceable in the NBA, and I would say Tom Brady in New England appears to be irreplaceable. Is Russell Wilson irreplaceable? I don't know. But boy, he's good. Boy, he's good. Wisconsin football has never looked like that since he left, not offensively. NC State football hasn't looked like that since he left. And Pete Carroll's got a losing record pre-Russell Wilson. Fire twice than a losing record in Seattle. So I don't think Pete's

ever truly been into him. I think Russell was. He no longer is. The athletic has the piece. It lays it all out. And as we predicted, as we predicted, when Tom Brady went to Tampa and his team listened to him and they got in pieces he wanted and they rebuilt offensive pieces they were missing and they treated him like a star, look how, read this article. Look how Russell Wilson has acted since then. Russell Wilson never leaked anything. Russell Wilson's people didn't this in the last month since Brady won every week. Joey and I've been here. There's been a Russell Wilson story. And now it comes out. He watched Brady in that offensive line get rebuilt in the year. He watched Brady get Gronk. He watched Brady get Leonard Fernett. All the guys that scored for Tom

Brady in the Super Bowl were guys that Tom Brady asked to get Antonio Brown, Gronk, and Leonard Fernette. And he asked them draft an offensive lineman. All of them. Seattle, Russell looks at that and says, can anybody ever listen to me? And they don't. So real drama, I still cannot believe Seattle would move off Russell Wilson. I can't believe they would. But read the story yourself. It's ugly.

Okay. I believe this story, and I agree with this story. John Lynch, GM of the 49ers, came out yesterday and said, Jimmy Garapolo is our starting quarterback this year. I like him and we're not moving off him. I believe that story. This story from Diana Rusini, the Houston Texans will not trade to Sean Watson. They are refusing.

They believe they can salvage their relationship. Okay. So I'm going to say I believe both. So, and I do believe Houston wants to salvage it. And I do believe Garoppolo wins 75% of the time in San Francisco. And there's nobody available for San Francisco with a 12th pick. So let's look at the quarterbacks that are now off the market. Matthew Stafford, Dram, Carson went to the Colts, Deshawn's not going to be traded,

Dak, according to a story yesterday, is going to be franchised, he's not in the market, and Jimmy Garoppolo's off it. Okay, so what is now on the market? Oh, this is interesting. James Winston, Sam Darnold, Cam Newton, Marcus Mariotta, and five rookies. It's not exactly a robust group after Trevor Lawrence, and he's gone with the first pick. So my question is, the worst case scenario has now arrived for the New England Patriots. That's what's available.

And by the way, this morning, I counted nine teams that need a quarterback. Jags, Jets, Eagles, Panthers, Broncos, Patriots, Washington Bears, Saints. Meaning, I just showed you the nine available. And there's nine that need them. meaning there's going to be bidding wars on some. We know David Tepper of Carolina is a very wealthy man and very aggressive. He will overpay for a quarterback. We know Philadelphia will probably overdraft or overpaid.

That's what they do. We know the Saints. Sean Payton's not going to be here messing around. He's going to overpay for somebody or overdraft. This is New England post-Tom Brady. Lost. It's the worst case scenario. The quarterback markets barren,

eight other teams beside you want one, and you've got the 15th pick. My guess is New England absolutely has to trade up in this draft. I don't know what they're going to trade. I really don't. They don't have any players anybody wants. Maybe they give three first round picks. But this is New England post-Bradie.

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Listen to Up On Game with me, LeVar Arington, T.J. Hushmanzada, and Plexico Burris on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast from. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's superhuman.

documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care which I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th.

You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes,

creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space.

For honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with a little Kim?

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Search Learn the Hardway and listen now. So six years ago, two teams in the NBA shot 33 as a game. today it's 26. If you watch Utah Dismanel the Lakers last night, they hit 14 threes in the first half I watched. It just one after another, after another, after another. It's getting easier to do. And all this is because of Steph Curry. But Patrick Ewing was talking about Steph Curry.

And it's interesting because Steph Curry has made Patrick Ewing's skill set less in demand, the classic back to the basket center. But Ewing was talking about Steph Curry. You know, Steph, like Michael, changed the game in terms of, you know, you have guys shooting those deep shots and doing the things that he did. Michael changed it by all the Dunkin that he was doing. And Steph, you know, it was funny. I went to Georgetown, played his school when they were in college. And my son was on Georgetown's team, so I went to the game.

And he single-handedly kicked our butts. And I still didn't think he was going to be the player that he become. You know, I take my hat off to him. He's definitely a student of the game. worked at his craft. He's the most disrespected player in the game. People talk about Devin Booker being disrespected. Has Devin Booker won multiple

titles? Has Devin Booker been a unanimous MVP? Devin Booker's not disrespected. What's he done? He's just talented. Steph Curry's completely disrespected. There's only three players in basketball that have changed the game. Now, there's been a lot of great players. Shack was great, but he was a

unicorn. There was never going to be another shack on the market. Same with Kareem. Michael Jordan was the first to change it. How did he change it? Up until Michael Jordan, it was understood. You needed a center to win a championship. And the Bulls, no, guards and wings can dominate. It wasn't about bigs.

Didn't have to do that anymore. You didn't have to have a McHale, didn't have to have a will, didn't have to have a Keem, didn't have to have a cream, didn't have to have a big. Michael Jordan changed it. You could be driven by wings and guards and win championships and dominate the sport. The second person to change it was LeBron James. Mobility now is essential. We look at Bradley Beale for Washington and ask,

What's wrong with Bradley Beal? Why would he stay in Washington? LeBron Chames changed the way we actually look at talent. If you don't at least consider joining other great players, it's like bad business. Loyalty. Oh, please. That's an eye roll.

LeBron changed the way players move. if you don't now consider joining better players, you're just kind of a dumb businessman. And number three is Steph Curry. Steph Curry changed how all basketball was played. All of it. When you do a fast break now in basketball, even if you have the numbers advantage, you're allowed to pull up for a three-point shot. Your high school and college coach would have benched you for doing that.

Now you are encouraged analytically on a fast break. when you have the three-on-one advantage numbers-wise to pull up and shoot a three if you're the right guy. He essentially eliminated guys like Dwight Howard, an eight-time All-Star, who is now seen as an offensive liability. Where would Dwight Howard get drafted today? Yonnes now. MVP, please, can't have him late in the game. He's a liability. He also changed his own position.

Nobody really that wants to win a championship looks at Russell Westbrook and says pure athleticism works. John Wall similarly, John Wall and Russell Westbrook, they can't shoot at a point guard position. They're seen as liabilities. Teams beg John Wall to shoot jumpers. Teams strategize to let Russell Westbrook keep hitting shooting threes. There's only three, there's been a million great players. Only three have changed it. MJ, LeBron, and Steph.

Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. I tell young broadcasters whenever I talk to them, there is no perfect job. I've been doing this for a long time. I'm well compensated. I've got a great partner. And there's a headache around every corner. Every week there's something I'm dealing with. And I'm in the best space in the country in this industry.

And there's an argument. There's a, there's just, there's an issue, a roadblock. I have to navigate every other week. That's just the way the business is. There are no perfect jobs. Now, there have been years where it's been easier. There have been times and sections of it where everything kind of works perfectly. You know, you get the right boss, you know, sales are good.

You get the right partner. But there's no perfect job. And it's interesting, Tom Brady's quarterback coach had never met him before this year. His name is Clyde Christensen. and he peeled back the curtain a little bit on CBS Sports Radio. He said, when I talked to him, he kept mentioning initially he really liked what Peyton Manning did in Denver. He thought it was fun. He thought it would be a cool challenge.

Can I do this somewhere else? Can I pick a team with enough good players and win somewhere else? Obviously, Peyton had won a ton in Indy and Tom had won a ton in New England. But it's interesting when you think about this, how perfect it was. this year in Tampa. It was really perfect. You have a winning coach. They were desperate for you.

They had a ton of weapons, a clearly capable general manager, and they listened to you. You wanted gronk, you got him. You wanted A, B, you got him. You needed help on the offensive line. They got him. Leonard Fernette was available. You went and got him. There's only one other quarterback in the league that has that.

Patrick Mahomes. He's got a superboying coach, a great GM. He's treated like a star, and they listened to him. During the draft last year, Brett Veach texted in the first round, texted Mahom, says, give me three players you want. He named three players, the first being Clyde Edwards Hilar, the running back, and that's who they picked. Okay? Brady, wanted gronk, wanted A.B.

Remember when A.B came, we were all like, do they need A.V? I'm not sure. What? They got him touchdown on the Super Bowl. So when you see Russell Wilson now upset, Russell Wilson, according to the Athletic,

watch the Super Bowl and seethed at everything Brady had. When you see Aaron Rogers, you guys remember two years ago? It may have been three. Aaron Rogers just wanted the Packers to re-sign tight-end Jared Cook.

That's all he asked for. They didn't. They let go of his quarterback coach. They didn't tell him. Deshawn Watson just doesn't want to get hit like this. So you think to yourself in the NFL, God, what a great job. There are currently two quarterbacks and it will not last forever. It's perfect.

That's it. That's it. Brady is treated like a star. The coach isn't the issue. The GM is not the issue. He's got a bunch of weapons. and they'll listen to him. They don't do that with Aaron and Green Bay.

They don't do that with Ross and Seattle. They don't do that with Deshawn and Houston. Deshawn and Houston was told they'd listen to him. So it was worse. Not only didn't they listen to him, they promised they would, and then they didn't. So, you know, you think when you're out there looking for jobs, don't get too precious. There are no perfect jobs. Even for Brady.

Even for Aaron Rogers. Even for Peyton Manning's. even for Farr, there's an obstacle. The perfect moments are brief. I mean, they were also lucky. At the end of the year, everybody got healthy for Tampa. I mean, it literally was perfect. The year before, Tom, except for those Randy Moss years, never really had great weapons.

He didn't. He had like three years where they had a good defense, a good online, and perfect weapons. Tom was overcoming stuff always. They always had a deficiency at wide receiver. They were, you know, they always penny pinched on pass rushers. They never spent the big money on free agents. So don't get too precious. Perfect doesn't exist.

And if it does, it is for a very, very short time. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app. Search herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Hey, what's up everybody? It's me, three-time Pro Bowl of LaVore Arrington. And I couldn't be more excited to announce a new podcast. podcast called Up On Game.

What is Up On Game, you ask? Along with my fellow Pro Bowler, T.J. Hushmanzada and Super Bowl champion. Yep, that's right. Plexico Burris. You can only name a show with that type of talent on it. Up On Game. We're going to be sharing our real-life experiences loaded with teachable moments. Listen to Up On Game with me, LaVar Arrington, T.J. Hushman Zada, and Plexico Burris

on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or. wherever you get your podcast from. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.

Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the iHeart rate. app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clivert Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes,

creators and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be.

Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs?

Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam Jay.

And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent, episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me

not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so you all know. At this point, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack, so I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now, so... Thank you for finishing that sentence.

I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Keer Games. And in recognition of mental health awareness month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience

in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking, Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing and we're still chasing it and we don't know when we've done enough because people scoreboard watch life becomes about wins and losses Steve Burns Dustin Ross because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth or are you a good person because you're afraid because that's two different intentions bro absolutely and that that's two different levels of trust I want you to just really be a good person

Join me, Keir Gaines, as we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast, Learn the Hardway. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Learn the Hardway and listen now. Here we go. It's hour three. We're live in Los Angeles. This is the herd, wherever you may be, however you may be listening. Fox Sports Radio, Iheart Radio, FS1. So here's the story. We're going to update you on this. So the Athletic had a story this morning.

Russell Wilson is beyond frustrated with the Seattle Seahawks. I've been on this for some time. When Paul Allen passed away, owner of the Seahawks, they gave the franchise to his sister who is not as into it as Paul. So she doesn't have the thumb on Pete Carroll, which Paul Allen did. Paul Allen made sure Pete Carroll had somebody to answer to. He no longer does. John Snyder almost left for Detroit because he didn't even have personnel say as the general manager. But then Seattle probably overpaid him so he stayed.

And then Russell Wilson wants out. The feeling in Seattle, I've been told this by multiple sources. Russell's frustrated, bad offensive line play, outdated schemes. He has no say in anything. athletic article basically told you what we've been telling you for a month or two months. Russell's not happy. And so Russell Wilson today, according to his agent, Mark Rogers, he does not, God, for a day for me to forget my phone at the hotel. He does not want to be traded and he would prefer to play in Seattle.

But he has given four teams that he would play for. So Russell has a no trade clause. So he controls all this. He can go where he wants to go and players should have this. Star players should have this. He's been in the NFL nine years. Cowboy Saints, Raiders, Bears. Now, those four teams are very interesting.

Are we sure all four have a great coach? No. Are we sure all four have great defenses to help him? No. Do all four have great offensive lines? No. Do all four have winning Super Bowl rosters? No.

What do all four have in common? They're all cool cities. Dallas, New Orleans, Vegas, and Chicago. He's married to Sierra. That to me, Giselle Bunchin had a lot of say with Brady. We broke the story on Brady to Tampa. Giselle wanted Miami. That was her choice.

Because in the fashion and modeling community, Miami, Los Angeles, New York are the three cities in America where there's a lot of business done between, you know, Europe and London and South America and Miami. So she wanted Miami. The compromise was all go to the Florida team. We're not going to Jacksonville. How about Tampa because they got good players and were close to Miami? And that was the compromise, I was told. So those are cool cities. They don't all have four great coaches.

They don't have great defenses. They don't have Super Bowl rosters. The wife has a say in this. That's what it feels like. Russell's made his money. Russell's going to be a Hall of Fame player. Now, I do think, let's talk first about Dallas. They've got Dak Prescott.

And you'd have to pay, you're going to have to pay Dak Prescott close to what Russell Wilson is. So is Dallas saying to themselves, if we can get Russell for Dak, we've got to pay both 35, why not go for it? I can see Dallas being in. interested. I can be. I can't. I mean, yeah, I mean, if Dax number is 35 and I'm paying Russell 35, Russell's better than Dak. Now, the downside for Russell Wilson is, Dallas's offensive line is old and lasts about six games and falls apart, and the defense stinks. And to be honest with you, it'd be a downgrade in coaching. I don't think that's the best spot. I don't for Russell Wilson. Let's talk Saints. Good offensive line, great roster.

I don't know how they'd make it work for now and a great coach. So I can see him being totally in tune with that. Absolutely. And he'd get Tom Brady twice a year and he'd like it. Now, their offensive lines very good and the coach is good. And it's a great general manager. So if I was Russell Wilson, if you're asking me, this is where I'd want to go. I'd want to go to the Saints.

I get a creative offensive coach. I think Mickey Loomis is as good as any NFL GM in the draft. Gail Benson, they run a pretty tight ship down there. you know, listen, I would just move off. I mean, Russell never gets hurt. I just tell James, it was fun. Good luck. And I'd move off Taysam Hill.

Because they pay Taysam a lot of money. If you could look that up, Joy, I don't have my phone. I left it at a hotel. Can you get out of the Taysam Hill contract? The Saints, to me, is the no-brainer. And the other thing about the Saints is the Saints have a lot of good players. So the Saints could give draft picks and players to Seattle. That's not a bad thing.

They could give Seattle multiple players and multiple picks. Then there's the Raiders. I don't know if Gruden can coach right now, and I don't know if Mike Mayock can draft. That would be my last choice. There's too many questions with the Raiders. I do think their offensive line is top 10 in the league. They have a great tight end. They have a really good running back.

They have some very nice offensive pieces. But do I want to go in a division with Patrick Mahomes and Annie Reed twice a year? I mean, I'm already leaving the best division in football. It'd be nice to get a break. You get a little break. And then the fourth is the Bears where I like Matt Nagy, don't love the GM, Ryan Pace. Defense is Super Bowl worthy, but it's a very shaky offensive line.

And if Alan Robinson, the wide receiver leaves, they got nothing. They got Tareke Cohn and a bunch of nothing. So to me, if I had to rank the four, I would say New Orleans won. Dallas, because I do love their offensive piece. I would say Saints won, Dallas 2, Chicago 3 because of their defense. You'd be in a lot of good games. And also, you get the Detroit Lions twice and Minnesota's, you know, okay. And I get a face Aaron Rogers, who I wouldn't mind doing that.

I think the Saints is the best spot. Oh, I think it, slam dunk. Yeah, I mean, listen, if you can tell a quarterback, you get a great coach and a great GM. The Saints have a good defense too. Oh, yeah, yeah. But they're going to have, there's good. they'll be able to maintain their offensive line. Alex would tell me in my ear our NFL guru.

They've drafted so well in so many areas. They've got a couple of great old linemen that I think are locked into contracts for a while. The Saints have the least cap space among all teams in the NFL entering next season. Oh, yeah. And I don't think it's close. They are $69.5 million over the cap. They're $100 million over the cap. $69.5.

So they would have to, they would have to. But here's the thing, if I'm Seattle. you could give them a wide receiver. I mean, honestly, you could move Michael Thomas there because they have Emmanuel Sanders and New Orleans had figured out how to get, they'll draft well. You could get Pete may want a running back.

You've got Alvin Kamara. You've got Michael Thomas. I mean, when they want, what are they going to do with a quarterback? Well, the question is, if Pete would get, give me Michael Thomas and Alvin Kamara, and for a year, I'll be average at quarterback, but my pieces will be so good. I mean, D.K. Metcats.

They're probably going to want draft picks, too. They will. There's no question. I think the report was the starting price for Russell Wilson's three first rounders. Well, I'm not giving you Russell Wilson for three first rounders. Remember, general managers don't want just picks. I mean, Pete Carroll's history of drafting in the first round, he's hit one home run in the first round, Earl Thomas. That's it. Now, Pete's had a lot of home runs in the second, third, fourth, fifth.

His first round stuff's been pretty dubious. He and John Schneider. And I don't love others. Rashad Penny was a terrible pick. James Carpenter was a terrible pick. Well, you couldn't move just picks anyway because you'd have to. to move some place around for the cap. So let's say it's the Saints.

If I'm Pete Carroll, I'm John Snyder, I say, give me three first and I want two players. And by the way, New Orleans is probably like, we've got to move some guys. So, you know, and I'd have to look at the numbers. But Michael Thomas is a guy that last year, you know, if you have Michael Thomas D.K. Metcalf, you wouldn't have to be a superstar quarterback team for a year. Michael Thomas may be a guy they move. And again, the NFL furnishes, college football furnishes the NFL with 25 receivers a year. So I think I'd try to move off a Michael, and I like Michael Thomas, but I'd move up on Michael Thomas.

I don't think Pete would take Cameron Jordan at this point. He's expensive. And if you look at the division, that is the division that makes the most sense. I mean, obviously the NFC East, but when you look at your, you're leaving to your point one bad offensive line for another shaky offensive line. Once again, no New York teams. He's not interested. I mean, New York, you tell me, outside of Kevin Durant,

I mean, Kevin Durant starts it, but New York teams, most athletes don't want to pay those taxes, plan that weather, and have those lousy owners in front offices. No New York teams included. He wants to go to Dallas, New Orleans, Vegas, or Chicago. And I don't blame him. I think the saint is, listen, Mickey Loomis is a smart dude. He'd figure out a way to make it work. By the way, why couldn't you do this?

Just for a year. Give him James for a year. Give him James, Michael Thompson, and three first round picks. James is fine for a year. Oh, no, that wouldn't work. Pete Carroll, he hates turnovers. Tassam Hill. Give us Tassum Hill for a year.

One year, Michael Thomas and four first rounders. I would do that in a second with Mickey Loomis. In a second. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. You know what I want to do here? I want to draft live who I would draft. Now, I don't face any institutional pressure.

He's a former scout, so all his buddies will watch this, and he can't screw up. So he's a lot of pressure on him. There's no pressure on me. And my theory on the draft, I never buy this whole draft the best player available. I've never bought into that. Belichick says that's all he does, but it's a bunch of nonsense. Nate's soldier wasn't the best player available. They needed a left tackle.

Sony Michelle wasn't the best player available. They needed a running back. because they lost one to Tennessee. What do I need? I mean, if I have the defensive front for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, I probably don't need, I mean, I guess I could draft if I lose Shaq Barrett, but bottom line is Atlanta is a prime example. Atlanta needs a pass rush.

Like Atlanta needs some great athletes in the front seven. I don't think they need a quarterback. I think Matt Ryan's going to be great under Arthur Smith for the next two years. He finally gets an offensive coach. And I think Matt Ryan's 35. I think he's going to have two really good years. He's too expensive to move. So I don't buy that.

You know, I got a court. Matt Ryan's top 12 quarterback in the league. I don't feel like I need a quarterback. What I need is a little bit of a rearrangement of his contract if I could do that. But I like Matt Ryan. So here we go. Let's bring on Daniel Jeremiah. A lot of pressure.

A lot of pressure. I just want you to know there's a lot of eyes on you right now. I'd hate to see you fold like a double. like a deck chair under this pressure. Are you ready to go? I've got the Sharpie here. And as we get started, Colin, in case anybody was ever wondering

how Sam Bowie got picked ahead of Michael Jordan, Colin just laid out his whole philosophy for how that happened. Okay, smart guy. All right, first pick, Joey Taylor, who's got the first pick? The first pick in the NFL draft

is the Jacksonville Jaguars. DJ, you're on the clock. All right, I'm not going to waste too much time here. let's save some time for the rest of the segment because I'm going to go Trevor Lawrence here for the obvious reasons. He's the best player in the draft. He's the best quarterback in the draft. And Urban Meyer didn't come back for any other reason than to get Trevor Lawrence. Solid pick. I like your pick. That would have been my first pick too. All right.

All right. Number two is New York Jets. Colin, who are you picking? Okay. They have a lot of needs. Corner, edge rusher, wide receiver, running back. I can get everything they need later in the table. draft. I suspect they'll trade this pick, but we're not going to do trades in this pick. What they cannot get is a tight end like Kyle Pitts, who I think is the best athlete in the draft. He will own the middle of the field day one in the league. They drafted a star receiver last year. They can get a running back. Remember, they have multiple thirds, multiple first seconds.

They can get into, this is a deep offensive line class. There is no player like Pitts available later in the draft. He is the best tight-end prospect, perhaps, since Kellyn Winslow. I think he's an unbelievable talent. I know it's crazy. I'm going Kyle Pitts, Florida. All right, I don't hate that pick

if this is the Sam plan, right? If you're obviously sticking with Sam Darnold going forward to me, Kyle Pitts, I can make a case for Kyle Pitts as the second best wide receiver in this draft. He just so happens to be a tight end. So a very unique skill set. So under the Sam plan, I don't, I don't

hate that pick there, Colin. All right. Number three, the Miami Dolphins, DJ. Who you got? All right. They stick with Tua here, Joy. Team Tua continues to fight on. And we're going to go ahead and get him some help and a weapon. We're not going to go back to Alabama. We're going to go to LSU, get Jemar Chase, who is the best, the best wide receiver in this draft class, who's going to be able to do a lot of stuff after the catch with Tua. Gosh, I had him going later. Oh, brother. Okay, yeah, By the way, if you ever want to watch somebody who's guaranteed to be great, his first game in the NFL, go watch his YouTube talent. He literally looks like an NFL player. He looks like an elite NFL receiver on his college tape.

He is unbelievable. Okay, Joe, I'm ready. He's a faster, Antoine Boldman. Yeah. Number four, Atlanta Falcons. Colin, who you're doing? I'm not going to go quarterback. I can't get rid of Matt for two years.

I think he's 35. I think he's fine. Their needs are, they don't have enough. playmakers in their front seven. I'm going to go Micah Parsons. I think he's a wild athlete. I think he's a playmaker. He's a great blitzer. They don't have enough playmakers on defense. Their offense last year, they were in shootouts every week. I don't need a new quarterback. They scored 30 a week. I'm going to take Micah Parsons. What do you make of that? Off the ball linebackers, you don't traditionally see a lot of those guys go this high.

But I think coming off the heels of a Super Bowl, we saw the impact with Devin White. I think there's a little bit of an impact as we go into this draft class. Big, fast, explosive. So I would take the quarterback to me. I think I would sit there and take Zach Wilson as a gift from above. But take the linebacker, Colin. I'll let you do that. All right. All right. Number five, Cincinnati Bengals, DJ, who are you taking? Well, there's, I mean, the highest rated players on my board left here are a quarterback in a corner, but this has to be a draft to protect Joe Burrow. So I've got a choice that comes down to two guys I have closely graded with Penae Soule from Oregon and Roshan Slater from Northwestern.

I'm going to surprise Cowen a little bit here and I'm going to go with Slater from Northwestern who is a cleaner, better player on tape and he's going to help protect Joe Burrow going forward. Yeah, he had great tape against Cheshung. By the way, he can play interior or out. He's a little like all five positions. Yep, he can play all five. Yeah, so I don't have a problem with this at all. I don't know.

Penae Soule's got bad tape I've heard. Slater's good. He can move him. He's like Vera Tucker at USC. You can move him in. You can move him out. I don't mind this tape at all. Okay, now...

I thought you were going to go Vera Tucker with your second kick overall. Only one quarterback in the top five so far. All right. Eagles, Colin, who are you taking? Okay, so they butchered Carson Wentz. Everybody thinks they should take a quarterback. Don't you have to give Jalen Hertz a year? Are you going to support Jalen Hertz or not?

I'd get him help. I'm going to take Jalen Waddle, wide receiver from Alabama, who I think is a sensational talent. I would have taken Jemar Chase if he was available. I worry about Devonte Smith's size at 163. pounds. I think Waddle's unbelievable. Alabama's got a better wide receiving core than half the NFL.

I think they have struggled drafting wide receiver. They went first round last year. I'm going to give Jalen Hertz at least a year to succeed. I'm going to give him 16 starts. I'm going to give him some help on the perimeter. I think their O line is still good enough to give him time. I go Jalen Waddle.

Wow. Okay. To me, that's the second. I've already selected Zach Wilson with two of your picks. So I've got him still still hanging out there right now. But look, the Eagles are a ways away. To me, it's interesting offseason for them. Are they thinking they can kind of package this team together and make a run?

Or is it to just scrap it and totally rebuild? So that'll go a long way and decide what they do. The Detroit Lions, DJ. Who are they taking? Oh, my gosh, Joy. I mean, I have it written down here. I'm looking at Farley, the corner who I think is the best corner. You've got tackle there in Penaiseul, who's really interesting.

I like Jared Gough. they just, you know, made that move. I'm not passing Zach Wilson if he falls to me right here. I know I've got Jared Goff. I'm taking Zach Wilson here with the Detroit Lions. Oh, my God. You just, poor Dan Campbell. He admitted he had limited brain capacity.

He's got a six-year contract. He's got all kinds of time for this thing. He's got limited brain capacity, according to Dan Campbell. He said it yesterday. Now you created a quarterback controversy. And I just call Chicago or Washington, and I trade golf and I get an extra pick for it. And off we go. Oh, boy, Lord.

Carolina Panthers, Colin. Justin Fields. It's a perfect situation. I give Teddy Bridgewater one more year as the captain of the ship. Justin Fields is a great talent. He gets a year under a super smart coach and a really good guy, Teddy Bridgewater. I think Fields is the kind of guy that he's a little erratic, but I think I can coach him out of it because I think Matt rules sensational.

I think he has the physical gifts that Teddy Bridgewater doesn't and that will frustrate Carolina. They went heavy defense last year. in the draft. Now I'm getting my quarterback. David Tepper, by the way, is the owner. He's aggressive. He wants a star quarterback, and Justin Fields is him at number eight. I thought you had a strictly no quarterback policy here in the top 10, Colleen. You surprised me there. All right. All right. Number nine, the Denver Broncos, DJ. All right, so we've got a couple options here. They don't need receivers. So even though

Devante Smith's out there. I had Caleb Farley as the top corner who is still available. We still got Penaiseel. Gosh, there's a lot of options. I'm going to I'm going to say Farley. I'm going to say they have to address that secondary. So I'm going to go Caleb Farley from Virginia Tech. That's good. You have him ranked number one as your corner. All right. Virginia Tech's always had good corners. All right. Number 10, the Dallas Cowboys, Colin. I'm going to go with the second best corner. They let go of Byron Jones, and it was obvious. They're bad at safety and corner. I'd like to rebuild the offensive line, but they've got plenty of time for that later in the draft. I'm going to go Patrick Certain from Alabama. He's a tough kid, got a lot of starts. He's played in a lot of big games and shut down a lot of people. He's got a nose for the ball.

He's a playmaker. That's why Dallas has to start building the defense, and they got so much money tied up in offense. They've got to save some money somewhere. So let's go defense for the Cowboys. All right. I see. They need a corner there.

Pair him up with his old college teammate there as well with Diggs. So let's go where we got next year. Number 11, the New York Giants, DJ. I almost I almost jumped you there, Joy. Thanks for stepping in. To me, with the Giants, everybody's talked about playmaking. Devante Smith still being there is awfully tempting. I know they took a tackle in the first round last year.

They do it again this year. Dave Geddleman can't. If Pena Sewell's there, he's taking him. I mean, to get a big offensive line to protect Daniel Jones, you can play him at right or left tackle. That's where I'd go. Very interesting. Listen, he's a pancake guy.

Now, here's what I worry about. The Pac-12 doesn't have any good. edge rusher, so I don't know how good he is because he just swallowed everybody whole in the pack 12. But he is a dominating run blocker when you watch him. All right, number 12, the 49ers

Colin. Okay. Here we go. Trey Lance, quarterback North Dakota State. Trey Lance. What are you guys looking to me like that for? I like that. I love that pick. I think that's his floor. I think that is as far

as he would slide right there. Trey Lance, Listen, Garoppolo's going to stay for a year. They stink when he doesn't play. But you get a kid in that probably needs a year of grooming. I think this kid, outside of Trevor Lawrence, it would not shock me in three years if he's the second best quarterback. I think he is just big, strong moves, arm. We just don't have enough tape on him, but I'm going to go with him. Yeah, you might be one of those guys that prefer quarterbacks who've never turned the ball over and never lose.

I mean, if that's your thing, you know, then you're going to like Treland. Number 13, the Los Angeles Chargers. Oh, I know what I'd take right here. I know what I'd take. Well, I've got Devante Smith staring at me to add to that weaponry. But I am going to play the fight song for Collins' favorite college, and I'm going to take Elijah Vera Tucker from U.S. Boom, that's exactly what I'd take. He can play.

He was the best, first or second best guard in the country. Wyatt Davis was good. He played tackle this year and was very good. Now, again, tackle in the Pack 12 doesn't mean you can, they don't have a lot of edge rock. but I think he's a really good football player. He's better than Austin Jackson who got drafted first round. He's going to be an all pro.

He's going to be an all pro guard. He is really good. All right. Who we got next? Number 14, the Minnesota Vikings, Colin. This is hard. Okay, listen, I think they need a corner. I think Mike Zimmer loves defensive players.

I'm going to say Gregory Russo, Miami, edge rusher. I think Mike Zimmer wants to put, listen, last year, quarterbacks ate up this defense. Zimmer has a lot of, I think Mike Zimmer is a good coach who takes a ton of pride in defense. I think they have multiple needs on defense. But I think this kid's really good. What do you like about that picker or not like?

I like him a lot. I think when you look at DeNeil Hunter, you talk about long, rangy athletic, edge rushers, getting him back. That's going to be a nice combo there coming off the edge. The kid, he was a receiver and a safety in high school. He hadn't even played the position that long. I walked into Miami had 15 and a half sacks before he opted out.

He's a good one. All right, number 15, the New England Patriots, DJ. Oh, boy. I'll run this one up. I know that they don't have a great track record at this position, but Devante Smith is staring them right in the face. Just take him right now. And you'll figure out the quarterback thing with a veteran,

but you need a legit number one guy. I think he could be that. All right. Finally, Colin Cowherd, the Arizona Cardinals, number 16. This is really hard for me because they need a corner. They need special teams help. They could use receivers. This is a hard one for me.

This is a hard one. God, they I'm not going to say Christian Dara saw Virginia Tech. I think they could use offensive line help because Kyler got whacked a lot last year. Okay, I'm going to roll the dice on this. You're going to crush me.

God, I'm trapped. I don't like another edge. You know what I'm going to say? No, they don't. Do you trust Chandler Jones? I'm going to get on the phone here and call somebody. Do you trust Chandler Jones or would you, or would you draft another edge rusher?

You can never have enough edge rush. Okay, I'm going to go. I'm going to go. Quitty Pay, Michigan. They have a lot of needs. I think he's explosive. They went and got Simmons last year. I don't think their offense is the issue.

I think he, of their many needs, I think he's, by the way, you're in a division with Matt Stafford, Russell Wilson, Jimmy Garoppolo. That's a really good bunch of quarterbacks you have to face. I'm going to make them uncomfortable, so I'm going to go him. Quitty Pay. Quitty pay is going to weigh 270-something pounds. he's going to run in the high four-fives. He is a freak show as an athlete. So when you have Isaiah Simmons and Buda-Baker,

you've got some real speed on that defense. Now, I like that one. Look at this. So overall, you can go ahead and rip me. What was my worst pick? Well, I mean, to me, I can justify the Kyle Pitts thing because of moving forward with Sam Donald.

I understand that. I just don't think that if the Eagles are sitting there at pick number six and we've only had one quarterback come off the board, I don't think that Jalen Hertz has shown enough that I'm going to bypass the opportunity to take one of those other guys. So you're going to ruin Jalen Hertz, too?

He's a 50th pick who did some good things, but not enough for me to bypass one of these other guys who carry a higher grade. All right. That was fun. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends.

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