The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 03/03/2021 - Best of The Herd

Episode Date: March 3, 2021

Colin explains why Tom Brady doesn’t have to retire from the NFL anytime soon after winning his 7th Super Bowl. He gives praise to Cardinals quarterback Kyler Murray and argues it’s time to buy in on Murray as a great player in the league right now. Plus, he talks to Nick Wright from First Things First about Dak Prescott and what will end up happening with his contract this off season with the Cowboys.   Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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They'll feed us today as they do on Wednesday. It's great to have you. Joel Taylor is joining us. I am going to defend Tom Brady righteously today. I really, I know it's not really a... I can always leave with Brady, right? Yeah, we can always leave with Brady. Giselle is starting to get under my skin.

Oh, okay. That's what we're doing. Yeah. What is it about women not letting us have fun? Oh, okay. I mean, life is just... I mean, you can have all the fun you want. So Tom Brady wins the Super Bowl.

He's on James Corden. Right. Funny talk show guy. And he's on the show. And James Corden asked him about right after he won the Super Bowl and here's Brady. All of a sudden I see my oldest son run over to me. Dad, you know, and I gave a big hug. I saw my, you know, my two little ones.

And all of a sudden I saw my wife and I gave her a big hug. And just as I did it, she says, what more do you have to prove? It's not about that. Let me speak for guys a little. It's not about that. Some of it's just it's fun to hang out with guys and laughs and camaraderie. When all these guys retire, they all hate practice. You know what they miss?

Just to laugh with other funny alpha males and inappropriate stupid guys in the locker room. And we all got a little meathead in us. It's not about proving stuff. Giselle's going to model until, you know, in her 60s or 70s, what does she have to prove? Is she going to get more beautiful? I don't know. She just likes doing it. It's fun.

Fun to feel good about yourself. You know, here's something that I talked about briefly yesterday. It's so coincidental. This was a topic. 24 hours in a day you sleep eight. That means there's 16 hours left in the day to do stuff. And remember, if you're a successful athlete, you're wealthy. And if you're wealthy, wealthy people don't have to do the mindless crap.

you and I do to fill out their day. Yesterday, Greg Toey, producer on my show, had a flat tire, had to go to three tire stores, still couldn't get it fixed, wasted two and a half hours. I was booking airline flights. I'm on Delta.com. I'm on the phone listening. Wasted 95 minutes of my life. Brady's not doing that.

James Hardin's not doing that. Kevin Durant's not doing that. They got a staff. From the time of season ends to the time camp starts his five months. He's got six homes, a private jet, and a staff. that's 16 hours a day, you can be a great dad and a great family man is a professional athlete. And you can be a great professional athlete. You can do both at the same time.

Now, if you're a CEO, I always say, best jobs in the world are great athletes. It's not a CEO. It's not Elon Musk. Elon Musk is on the clock every day. A great surgeon's on the clock every day. A great attorney's on the clock every day. A CEO for our company on the clock every day. Pro athletes get time off.

They got time off. They get more free stuff than other rich people. Tom Brady didn't pay for anything. They didn't have free stuff all the time. So this idea that you can be a great athlete or you can be a great family person, he's got 16 hours a day. And by the way, by the time your kids get to be 14, they don't want to hang out with you all day anyway.

Did you want to hang out with your parents when you were 14 and 15? I didn't. What is this rush to get Brady out of football? What's this rush to get athletes out of football? Peyton Manning retired. He is so bored. He's doing a comedy show on ESPN Plus and another show where he watches film. He's bored out of his mind.

How many rounds of golf can you do? Nobody's telling Merrill Streep, she's got to retire. Nobody's telling Hanks or Denzel. They got to retire. In fact, I went to the top five grossing bands of 2019. Elton John, mid-70s, Metallica, they're around Rolling Stones. What? Nobody's telling them to retire.

You can be a great athlete and you can be a great family guy. It's not just about what do you need to prove. That's part of it. You like to prove people wrong. I like to prove people wrong. I had a lot of doubters. Joy and I bounced around the country. We've had critics and doubters.

It's kind of fun to stick it to them. But in the end, this is fun. We're off at noon. They have paid well. You're off at noon. You're never going to get this camaraderie back. When I retire, I'm not going to get a sit in a room for, two hours. I've said this before. I like creating the show as much as I like doing the show.

I just like being curious and getting ideas and building little rants. So, I mean, Giselle's great and everything, but can we slow down on this? Tom Brady's also a guy. He's Philip Rivers has a little bit of this in him. He likes practice. Brady's into football practice. Most guys aren't. It's tedious. I briefly played high school football. Football practice is hard. I grew up on the coast of Washington. It's wet. You get hit. It's just, it's, just awful. Of course, I was in small high school showers and it was, you know, not great facilities, but football practice is generally no fun and Brady loves football practice. So I don't understand the rush. He's got 16 hours a day after sleep. How long can you jet ski? How many times can

you ride a horse in Costa Rica? Football's fun. And you know when it's really fun? When you're winning Super Bowls, don't give it up. My theory on life, find stuff that makes you happy and do it over and over and over again. And that's a great life. I tell my kids all the time. What makes you happy? My son loves tech. Do tech a lot.

Hang out with people who talk tech. I hear him on his little computer upstairs laughing all the time. Those little buddies, they can't be together during the pandemic, but they're just talking about the silliest stuff and I don't get any of it and it's silly to me and it's tech stuff. It makes him happy. So do it over and over and over again. Tom Brady, me knock down a beer there. he got a little drunk, one little sideways off the rails.

But that's not who he is. Who he is, is a family guy and a football guy. And there's time for both. Okay, so J.J. Watt, as predicted, has acknowledged that a big reason he went to Arizona was lifestyle. But one of the other reasons J.J. Watt went to Arizona was Kyler Murray, the quarterback. And J.J. Watt said as much yesterday. He's been a winner at every stage of his life. And that's not a coincidence.

You're a winner because of the way that you work and because of the aura that you give off and because of the talent that you have. And I think that he has all of those things and he's going to continue to win and continue to have success. And that's a part of the reason that I'm here. I told him yesterday in Texas, I said, I'm here because I believe in you. And so I'm here. You have to have a quarterback in this league to have a chance.

And he's our guy. And I'm looking forward to going out there and playing with him. It's interesting when you look at the passing stats first year to second year, Kyler Murray approved a little bit. And it reminds me of my phone bill. I have a phone bill that's $800 and $900 a month, and that seems outrageous. And for almost all of my life, that was outrageous. But then phones changed.

And now my Rolodex is on my phone, my alarm clock's on my phone. All six kids have a phone. I pay for. Wife's got a phone. I've got a phone. I book travel on my phone. My calendar's on my phone. I buy food on my phone. I order Christmas presents on my phone. So $900 for my phone bill used to be ridiculous. Now it's a steal. That's all I paid to do all that in my phone. That's Kyler Murray. Don't look at his quarterback stats. You have to look at what he provides. that other quarterbacks can't and never did. If you look at his quarterback stats, they barely went up.

But you know when up wins, 5, 10 and 1 to 8 and 8. You know what up? His rushing yards and touchdowns 40%. He went from 24 touchdowns, total touchdowns, a 37th best in the NFL. The other six ahead of them are all great quarterbacks. The six ahead of him are Aaron Rogers, Josh Allen, Brady, Russell, Wilson, Mahomes, Tanna Hill, and then Carter Murray.

He is a non-traditional quarterback. And my phone bill now isn't like my phone bill for the first 50 years of my life. In the last seven, eight years, I do so much with my phone. I feel like I'm stealing it for under $1,000 a month. It's everything. It's my guest booker and my calendar and it's my FaceTime. I was telling Joy the other day outside of the television. Do you understand the value I get on FaceTime?

I talk to my kids every single day right next to me. Everything's on my phone. I buy food. I buy clothes. I book vacation. I do everything on my phone. I watch movies when I fly on my phone. It's my television.

It's my computer. It's everything. And so when you look at this kid, don't look at just the passing stuff. In the NFL history, the league history, there's two quarterbacks who have had 25 passing touchdowns and 10 plus rushing touchdowns. He's one of them. He's a completely non-traditional quarterback, and I agree with J.J. Watt. You can win a Super Bowl with Kyler Murray.

You can. Don't look at the passing stats. That's not what he's about. That's not just what he's about. There's another dimension that's probably 40% of his game that virtually nobody else in league history can provide. Throw it and run it. He can do it with anybody ever in this league. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeard Radio app. I watched the Lakers' sons game last night. Devin Booker got thrown out, which usually for Phoenix, last year would have meant an automatic loss.

And yet they beat the Lakers. That's what now Phoenix does all the time because Chris Paul showed up. Chris Paul, after LeBron James, is the single most influential player in the NBA. I know he's not cool or lit. He's not even likable. And I love him. He's not even likable. He's not vertical, mid-range guy. Phoenix hasn't made the playoffs in 11 years.

The last three pre-CP3 years, they were the worst team in the West, 74 and 163. Chris Paul arrives. They now are second in the West with the same roster. Last night, Devin Booker got thrown out. DeAndre Aiton said Chris Paul took over the huddles. Here's what followed. C.P. is a guy who leads vocally. The man, he's always on us, showing us the little things on how to win. There are small details that count, especially today's game, you know, losing the book. You know, he sat us down in the huddle and made us make sure we have to do winning points.

plays and, you know, there's no mistakes. And, you know, when the game's junkie like this, you know, just to keep our head and, you know, us as young players, we just want to listen. And, you know, it's contagious the way I approach the game. So, you know, it's a blessing. Chris Paul joins your team, you win. He leaves you lose. Only other player you can say that about in the NBA. Only other player is LeBron James. Oklahoma City got rid of him because they were trying to tank and he made him win too much. he's the anti-Zac Levine. Zach Levine is vertical and flashy and hits threes and bunches and gets hot and is streaky and is a blast to watch.

And his winning percentage is 31% lowest in the league for a player with 300 games. Zach may be the greatest guy in the world. Never makes anybody better. Two weeks ago, rookie Anthony Edwards had a filthy dunk on the baseline. Plays for the T-Wool's Twitter exploded. Oh my God, that's unbelievable. You know what else was unbelievable? Anthony Edwards went 0 for 7 in that game on threes,

three for 14 from the floor, and a plus minus of negative 13. That's also pretty unbelievable. But hey, he was cool. Chris Paul's never cool. When he was with Blake Griffin, all I heard for years was he is holding Blake Griffin down. Since the divorce, Blake Griffin has not won a playoff game.

Chris Paul's won 20. But he doesn't sell any. issues of Slam magazine. I'm not sure he can dunk. There's a real John Stockton quality to him. He's sort of annoying. He's not always likable. He's kind of snarky and snarly at times. He is Stockton, who I think's the third or fourth best point guard. Magic's best. After that, we can argue about all of them. But I love Chris Paul. I loved him at Wake Forest. I loved him with the Clippers. I think he's as smart as anybody in the NBA. Not a shot. Many say his best friend in the league is LeBron James.

Not as big or as strong, not as talented, but Chris Paul can be on the cover of my magazines. Ed Norton's not going to be on people. Either is Don Cheadle. Because they have, you know, their act together. So does Chris Paul. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd. Weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific.

Hey, what's up, everybody. It's me, three-time Pro Bowl of LaVar Arrington, and I couldn't be more excited to announce a new podcast called Up On Game. What is Up On Game, you ask? Along with my fellow Pro Bowler, T.J. Hushmanzada and Super Bowl champion. Yep, that's right. Plexico Burris. You can only name a show with that type of talent on it.

Up on Game. We're going to be sharing our real-life experiences loaded with teachable moments. Listen to Up on Game with me, LaVar Arrington, T.J. Hushman Zada and Plexico Burris on the. the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast from. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.

Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win.

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Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam Jek. And I'm Alex English. We pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack.

So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more. important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host,

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the stage. Why are we rushing to get rid of Brady, the greatest American patriot, the greatest American football hero? That's the greatest American Patriot. All right. Yeah, listen, there's two people in America that need to retire. Tom Brady and Colin Cowherd, and both for me. Tom Brady, because I'm sick of him and Colin Cowherd, because I'm waiting for that seat. But you talked about years together, I've been with you for five years.

Does he keep signing contract extensions? Yeah, I agree with Giselle. And unlike, listen, maybe, I don't think Denzel still does his own stunts. I don't, you know, the Rolling Stones, no one's hitting Mick Jagger with a guitar when he walks off the stage. I think Tom should really consider it.

I think, you know, I heard Tom's interview with James Gordon, talked about throwing that trophy. That could have gone terribly for him. Walk off on a high note, Tom. Nobody's talking about it, but listen, I think Giselle Bunchin makes some really, really strong points. And I really, once again, Colin, you ended last week's interview with a non-question question about Tom Brady,

and you're starting this week. There was no question there. It's just an excuse for you to make me watch these highlights again, which I don't want to watch. So can we please move on? By the way, you see Nick's haircut today? Look how sharp Nick looks. He looks really good.

Well, that's because his wife does that for a living, right? She's all right. All right. So, Joy and I laugh about Dak Prescott. It's the story that won't end. It's like that movie Gettysburg. It's like seven hours. I'm like, could the story end with Dak?

You have a belief on how the Dak Prescott thing is going to end. What is it? Yeah, I don't know why it took me this long to have this epiphany. but Dax not signing an extension. And he's not going to sign an extension because he shouldn't. So, Colin, here's the thing. From 2016 until 2022, do you know which NFL player has guaranteed, guaranteed himself the most money? It's Kirk Cousins, $192 million cash money.

Kurt Cousins will have been compensated from 2016 through 2022 unless the Vikings cut him in the next 20 days. If he's on the roster by, I think it's March 27th, next year's salary, meaning the 22 salary gets locked in fully guaranteed. And it's because he played the franchise tag game and won. And so once you get franchise tagged the one time at the quarterback position, if you can stomach it for the second time, you are just essentially guaranteed to be able to sign the perfect contract,

which is what Cousins did the first time with the Vikings, and then he was able to parlay that into a second contract with the Vikings, both of which de facto fully guaranteed. So I don't think Dax's going to blank. I think Dax's going to say you paid me $31 million last year, you're going to have to pay me $37 million this year, and then I'm going to be able to either sign with you or with anybody on my terms.

And so I think the Cowboys misplayed this hand. I think they believed what, to be fair to them, I believed, which right was right before last season, I thought Dak would blink. I thought right before last season, Dak would say, come on, like, all right, I'll take whatever the best last offer is I need to get paid. And he didn't do it.

He didn't do it two years ago. He didn't do it last year. And now I think he has all the leverage in the world to just say franchise tag me, that's fine. And then I'm going to get a four-year $160 million fully guaranteed contract from somebody. So yesterday I did something and nothing ever gets. In fact, I predicted it on the show with Joy Taylor. I said this won't be contextualized and people will not understand this. We were talking about Dax's contract. And I said, if you could pay people in order of what they're worth. And the

worth would be on talent and then on value. Because let's be honest, Bill Belichick let go of a lot of talented people. He never let go of super valuable people. There's a big difference. I've worked with a lot of people in my business who are talented to get let go. Companies don't let go of valuable people. So I said, the Seahawks offense is so bad schematically.

Seattle can't score without Russell. Brady wins you Super Bowls. We've watched the Packers without Aaron Rogers. They can't win games. And Josh Allen, let's be honest, they were 20 years of nonsense. He's their best running back and their best

quarterback. In the second tier, and I knew this would get people worked up, I put Mahomes. And here was my reasoning. I said, he's more talented than all of them. But Andy Reid won 13 playoff games without him. They beat the Vikings two years ago, a playoff team without him. They are so well coached. They have such good weapons. They would win games without him. They won the divisions without him. They just wouldn't win any Super Bowls. So his talent isn't A-plus, but in terms of the franchise would be Titanic without him, no. they just wouldn't be special. And everybody looked at that and went,

that is, I'm literally canceling you. And I thought, is that an outrageous opinion? Yes, it's an outrageous opinion. Okay. And also, I really like what you did there, which is one of my favorite moves at the very beginning, which is I'm being attacked for this opinion, not because it's a terrible one,

but because people don't understand how brilliant it is. I go to that move a lot. it's not always correct. Sometimes it's, I'm being attacked for this opinion because the opinion's terrible. And you have recreated this Chiefs dynasty pre-Mahombs that didn't exist. In the Chiefs from Joe Montana's retirement until the day Patrick Mahomes started his first game, the Chiefs won one playoff game. And it was against a Bill O'Brien coach team.

so I don't know if it counts. They won one. Andy Rito, he wins divisions. Yeah, and he won one playoff game with Alex Smith, a single solitary playoff game. And somehow you twisted the logic to where you could argue that Mahomes should be, if you were just doing it based on like salary, the Josh Allen thing, maybe. But if you're going to have Rogers where he is, you cannot have Mahomes beneath.

him. So no, Colin, you were not attacked for this because it was, you know, you got unfairly edited on Twitter. You were attacked for this because it's wrong. And I, you know, I, dare I say, I think you need to issue an apology because I'm not for canceling people, but I think this is cancelable. I really do. I think it's such a bad opinion. And finally, you are more stylish than me. I'm not real, you know, I'm an accountant who has a talk show. You know, I like business. You're bored to death with it. You've got a lot of flash and sizzle. You're the Zach Levine of talk show hosts.

I'm the Chris Paul. But here's the thing. Chris Paul goes to Phoenix. They were a mess forever. Take LeBron out of the league. There's an argument to be made. The only people that show up on People magazine don't have their act together.

They sell magazines. Don Cheadle and Ed Norton never end up on it. Chris Paul similarly. We don't talk about him. He's not good on YouTube. He's not good on the highlights. Since Blake Griffin and him divorced, he's got 20 playoff wins, Blake's turned nothing. When are people going to get Chris Paul?

How is Phoenix now the second best team in the West? How? It's the same crappy roster couldn't win. This is a good opinion. Dare I say a great opinion. This is why I would argue, and nobody agrees with me on this, that at the All-Star break, if we're doing MVP's, you have LeBron and Embed battling for the top spot. spot, if I had a ballot, Chris Paul would be third. Don't care what his stats say. Don't care that he

averages in the low teens and points. This guy impacts winning as much as anyone in the league, not named LeBron James. You absolutely are correct. The gaudy numbers are not there, but he understands how to control games. He understands how to help get the most out of his teammates. good at the end of games as anybody. Look, Oklahoma City last year was supposed to be tanking. Yeah. He dragged them to the postseason. Everyone was in love with the sons because they went 8 and 0 in the bubble. They were so bad last year that they went 8-0 in the bubble and didn't even make the play-in game because their record pre-bubble was so egregious. He is the difference. So this, I 1,000% agree with you on. I think you can make the art.

argument, he is the second greatest, truly small guy in NBA history behind only the original Isaiah Thomas. And by the way, there are a lot of similarities to him and Zeke, which is the numbers don't show you their true impact to control of a basketball game. So on the Chris Paul thing, I 1,000% agree with you. I don't know why Zach Levine and I got drive-byed on that. Let's set that aside. I agree with you, a thousand percent. The minute that came out of my mouth, I felt terrible. Because Zach Levine's from the Northwest, so I always kind of root for him, and you're my friend. That was kind of a terrible thing to say.

You know, you're talking extemporaneously, and sometimes stuff comes out you feel bad about. It happens. It's five years, by the way. When you're talking about people being with you, I thought about this. April, coming up April, it's me and my wife's, I should know this eighth year anniversary, but it's during my five-year anniversary. How about that? You mean you coming on a show?

You're never going to boo me. Boom! Yeah, you and I. Five years in April. I'm not leaving you and you're not booing me. That's something. It's something. I don't know what it is, but it's something. I'll talk to you later. All right, Nick Wright, first things first.

One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Hey, what's up everybody? It's me, three-time Pro Bowl of LaVar Arrington, and I couldn't be more excited to announce a new podcast called Up on Game. What is Up on Game, you ask? along with my fellow pro-bowler, T.J. Hushmanzada and Super Bowl champion. Yep, that's right. Plexico Burris.

You can only name a show with that type of talent on it. Up on Game. We're going to be sharing our real-life experiences loaded with teachable moments. Listen to Up on Game with me, LaVar Arrington, TJ Hushman Zada, and Plexico Burris on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast from. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.

Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win.

A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes,

creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but sell. One week I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your

podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford. and a TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim?

Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam Jek. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack.

I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really?

Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Keer Games. And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests.

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So a report came out Sunday, ESPN, that the Jets were reportedly, and this word's important. Intrigued by BYU quarterback, Zach Wilson. Intrigued is a key word, because intrigued means we're considering it. but we're not sure yet. I'll get back to that in a second. So the Jets essentially put the house for sale, but you're not sure which house,

the Sam Darnold house or the number two pick house. That's why they use the word intrigued. It's very ambiguous. It could go many different ways. So when I saw the story, my takeaway was they were first softening the blow for Donald and his agent. Hey guys, we're going to move off you. Here's a little heads up.

Soften the blow before it happens or trade talk starts. It was also, in my opinion, when I saw the we're intrigued with Kyle Wilson, it was telling the Bears, the 49ers, and the Washington football team, call us and make an offer for Sam Darnel. Now, there may be part of this because they're probably 90, 10, or 80, 20 was Zach Wilson. where they're telling Denver, Philadelphia, and Carolina, why don't you make us an offer for the number two pick? You need a quarterback.

Maybe we'll listen there. This is putting the for sale sign up. You're just not telling everybody quite what's up for sale. And then today, these stories leaked. Now it's official. Now they're telling you what's for sale. Joe Douglas, the Jets general manager, according to Ian Rappaport, tells reporters, he will answer calls pertaining to potentially trading Sam Darnold.

Brian Costello, New York Post, covers the Jets. Douglas says he'll answer calls about Sam. This is a departure from his stance last year in October that he said he was untouchable. So Sunday they put the for-sale sign up, or they sell on the $2,000. two pick or they sell in Darnold and today they made it official they are moving off Sam Darnold. It's probably 90, 10, you know, 80, 20. If they don't get a good deal, maybe they move off it if somebody like Carolina steps up and gives them the moon, but they're going to move off Sam Darnold.

I've said this before. If I was, I have my questions about Zach Wilson. He looks skinny. I didn't see him beat any good teams in college. but, you know, either to Josh Allen. I trust my eyes. He just doesn't, he doesn't look like a guy that's going to take over the league. But, you know, what do I know?

Trevor Lawrence does. Josh Allen does. Herbert this year did. They did big, strong move. Big Ben and his prime did. There's guys that they looked apart. You're just like, oh, yeah, that guy could take over the league. You know, Deshaun Watson has moments.

You're like, that guy should be winning, you know, a lot of playoff games. So I will say this is that I always, I kind of felt they would move off, Donald, and the reason was simple is that new GM wants his quarterback and new coach wants his quarterback. And in the end, and I think this happens a lot, you just want a fresh start. I mean, you know, you move to a new house and you just want to buy some new furniture. You want you to feel like a new play, even though you may not need everything, you're like, you know, let's just get, let's get. a new couch. And let's get, let's get like, let's, let's, uh, kind of redo a bathroom. You want to make it your own. Joe Douglas wants to make the team his own. And Robert Sala, the head coach, wants to make

the team his own. And so they're going to move off Sam Darnold. And I'll say it again, John Lynch of the Niners, I know likes him. Chicago has Nick Foles. Washington, this was what I talked about a month ago. He feels like a tough guy, very much a Ron Rivera fit. So Sam Darnold, he's the house for sale. Make your calls. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. I think I add context to stuff, and I don't like this thing about this whole label you don't like Baker Mayfield. Joy Taylor as my witness on this show, I said, I wouldn't draft him a little bit too much off the field nonsense, but he's a franchise quarterback's not mine.

I said his ceiling is lower than everybody is saying, but he's a franchise quarterback. His comp is not Drew Brees. That's stupid. His comp is a better case Keenham, to which people were outraged. And I said, Case Keenom went like 11 and 3 one year when he had a good Minnesota team. Case Keenom complies, one of the best backups in the league. Baker's better than Case Keenham, but they have similarities physically. They don't have a huge arm.

Baker's got a better arm than case. They're not great athletes. They don't have big size. But the guys can ball. Baker's better than him, but that's his comp. By the way, when I said that, I had a GM text me, he's like, you're right on that. Nobody will ever give you credit. So yesterday, Kevin Stefanski came out and he said, I think Baker's just going to get better and better and better.

And my takeaway is, no. What you saw last year is his ceiling. And it ain't a bad ceiling. He had the highest-granted offensive line, the best running-back duo, and they had an easy schedule. They went 8-0 against the awful NFC East and the mostly awful and disheartedly. functional, AFC South. 8 and 0. The other 8 games, they went 3 and 5, and he completed 59% of his throws.

Against the NFC East and AFC South, he was 8 and 0, 14 TD's two picks. So this year, Cleveland's schedule gets way tougher. They face Kansas City away. They're at Pittsburgh, at Baltimore. Cincinnati will be better. They got to go and go at the Chiefs, at the Chargers, at the Packers, at New England. And no more Giants, Eagles nonsense. So what I said is, if you look at Baker's numbers last year, put them up again,

and you look at Case Keenum's best year ever. Same thing. Same guy. That's it. That's all I've ever said. Now, Baker is better than Case Keenham. him. But that is what I said his comp was. Everybody was saying Drew Breeze. You're saying his comps one of the eight best quarterbacks ever played football? That's stupid.

Not Drew Breeze. There's never going to be another Drew Breeze. You're never going to be another five, 11 and a half, six foot quarterback, the most accurate quarterback ever to throw a football. It's not going to happen again. So anyway, I, when I saw this yesterday and I heard this, oh, he's going to get a lot better. Remember, the minute you pay Baker, you can't have both running backs. You can't have the best graded offensive line. You can't have the most underrated wide receiver in the NFL, Jarvis Landry, who's just unbelievable. By the way, the backup tied end, David and Joku now wants out. You can't have all these stars on offense. And also, because the defense is so bad on the back end, Baker's always in these shootouts.

You can't have Baker dropping back. Last year, when Cleveland asked Baker to carry the team, when they said throw the ball 35 times or more, it was one and four. So this again, joy is here. This is not a shot at Baker. Let's contextualize this. It's not a shot. I'm just saying what I've always said. He's a franchise quarterback.

His ceiling is lower than all the nonsense on the inner web. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and headwriter Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.

Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.

Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast is. Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win.

I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfilled of conversations

with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. On the Look Back at a podcast.

From 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 was big to me. I'm Sam Jay and I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year.

It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.