The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 03/08/2021 - HOUR 2 - Right and wrong, OBJ

Episode Date: March 8, 2021

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go. Hour 2 to Monday. First hour just flew by. Live in Los Angeles, it's the hurt. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, Fox Sports Radio, High Heart Radio, FS1. So this is going to be very interesting. For the first time and a long time, the NFL cap is coming down. Pandemic business is coming down, meaning a lot of really, really good football players are going to be on the market. So if you've got cap space, I mean, this is a fascinating one. And this is a really good move by Seattle. This just came out. Joy Taylor joining me. Seattle released Carlos Dunlap.

Very nice player, but it saves Seattle $14 million on the cap. And over the last three years, last couple of years at least, Seattle has drafted some young defensive ends in pass rushers, but last year they weren't ready to contribute. So Seattle went out in a really smart move and got Carlos Dunlap for nothing. He was just expensive. He wanted out of Cincinnati. So while those young pass rushers like L.J. Collier are developing and they're not ready yet, you get Carlos Dunlap expensive for one year, and then Seattle just released him.

Now, he's a really nice player. I don't know if he's worth that kind of money. So Seattle saves $14 million on the cap. And then they hope they're young. They drafted a kid, if I recall, at Tennessee, L.J. Collier. There's somebody else maybe out of Syracuse. I forget the names. Pete likes pass rushers.

They just weren't ready to contribute last year. One was injured. L.J. Collier was a bit injured and a little bit of a late bloomer. So Seattle, this very smart move, totally understanding. understood. You're going to see this all over the NFL. A lot of teams have planned for the salary cap to go up this year. So someone like Dallas is in a lot of trouble because they signed a lot of players with the anticipation of it going up and now it's going down. So teams that have a lot of cap space are going to be able to make moves that they otherwise, they're not going to

have access to these players if this wasn't happening. By the way, the jets who have a lot of need, they haven't needed every position. If you go get a Carlos Dunlap, they have a ton of cap space, you don't have to get an edge rusher. Because the Jets have a good interior defensive line. They need an edge rusher. And it's not a great year for edge rushers in college this year. So you can get good backs and good wide receivers. And you upgrade your, it's a great year for offensive line and a wide receiver.

The Jets need that. But there you go. So that's the first move. Carlos Dunlap, released by Seattle. Nice player, but they save a boatload on cap space. Where Colin was right. Colin was wrong. Brought to you by Jersey Mike Sub.

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never understood the disrespect. And yet yesterday among the world's best basketball players, he basically won the All-Star game for LeBron's team and, oh, yeah, won the three-point shooting contest. I mean, if you had asked NBA players, players three years ago, Westbrook or Steph, they would have taken Westbrook. And I've never, for the life of me, understood that. He's the best shooter ever, the best ball handler ever, one of the great teammates ever, super high basketball IQ. And I loved that little Mr.

Steph Curry in the world's most talented basketball game basically took it over and decides it. Not LeBron, you know, not all, not Harden, not all the great players. No, Steph Curry decides the game. Where Colin was raw. I said Tom Brady had never seen an alien on Twitter last week. I said it on the show, and Brady came out on Twitter and called me out and said, how do you know I've never seen an alien? Got to be honest. He won a Super Bowl at 43 and eats avocado ice cream.

Brady probably is an alien. But I was wrong on this. I suggested Tom had never seen a UFO and Brady called me out. Hurt, not going to lie. Where Colin was right. Lifestyle. Yes, lifestyle, not just winning. played a huge role in J.J. Watt signing with Arizona.

This press conference he admitted, weather was an issue, training's an issue in Arizona. So Buffalo finished second Arizona. Buffalo has the better head coach. Buffalo has the much better roster. Buffalo is a Super Bowl team. Arizona's not. But regardless of tax rates and other obstacles, players with options like J.J. Watt increasingly, they want to go to California, they want to go to Arizona, they want to go to warm. weather, and I don't have a problem with any of it.

Where Colin was wrong. Now, I did think JJ Watt felt like a great fit and a semi-locked to the Packers, and he was not in the top two. This surprised me. He's from Wisconsin. He admitted a couple years ago that even playing a pre-season game against the Packers was a dream come true. I do think Green Bay, if you look at the way the world's working, outside of a quarterback,

Doesn't everybody need a good pass rusher? Isn't that like number two on everybody's want list? So I was surprised, JJ, they were not. Packers were not in his top two. Where Colin was right? Never been a Blake Griffin guy, and Detroit released him. No playoff wins. He played more than 25 games exactly once.

Listen, he is a great athlete. I've never felt he's a fluid basketball player. I always thought in the Chris Paul Blake Griffin finger-pointing escapades in L.A. Chris Paul was the much better basketball player, made people better, was the better leader. Now, Chris can be a pain. Chris is hard on guys. But Blake Griffin, two Detroit, didn't do a thing. He was rarely healthy.

Couldn't win a playoff game. And now he goes to Brooklyn where three guys will carry him. Where Colin was wrong. I never thought Seattle would even consider trading Russell Wilson. A report last week, they're officially taking calls. Nine years, eight playoff appearances. it blows my mind. It blows my mind.

Now, I still contend Russell Wilson starts for the Seahawks second week of September. And I think these guys, listen, they're both super talented, the coach and the quarterback, but the fact they are taking calls is mind-blowing.

To me, it's... I mean, I'm sorry, but Aaron Rogers, Russell Wilson, Packer, my home should never hit the market. Sorry, it shouldn't ever. Make it work. Make it work. Just deal with it.

Make it work. This is stupid. I don't care if you don't get along. You have to get along with everybody. Brady and Belichick didn't have dinner in 20 years. Make it work. Where Colin was right? The DAC deal, still not done, 30 hours until the franchise tag deadline. Listen, I have respect for all the reporters in Dallas, but I kept saying this.

Listen, when Jerry Jones wants stuff done, he has a history. You get stuff done. I've been hearing this for two years now. I don't think DAC getting a franchise deal tag is a bad deal for DAC at all. I mean, that means $69 million for two years. I went to his Twitter account yesterday. That guy's got more ads and endorsements. DAC is after, if he gets franchise tag, he'll be over $100 million in earnings,

endorsements in football, four years in the league, a state with no state tax. So I'm happy for DAC. But I've never bought into this. Well, it's just a matter of time. We all know he's going to get a long-term contract. And my takeaway is I've never bought into it. Listen, if he wants my home's money, you get. the pushback. I get it. I mean, I'd rather sign him to a four-year deal and manipulate the

cap than pay a fortune for a franchise tag because then the following year you're going to have to pay him like 50, but it doesn't look like he's going to get a deal. Where Colin was wrong. Well, super talented, but a little goofy and a little silly Joe L. Ambide, right now is the favorite to win the MVP, and I've been trying to trade him for years. For the record, I was told Joe L. Ambied and Ben Simmons, flew separately down to the All-Star game in Atlanta. They refused to share a private jet. They still don't get along. I don't like him on the court together.

But I will say this about Joel M.B., I will say it. They're one in five when he doesn't play. He's the closest thing to Shaq I've seen in terms of just skill. And they're 23 and 7 when he does play. And, you know, my theory was always move M. Bid. He's been hurt. He's a big. They never get healthier.

Keep Simmons and surrounding him with three-point shooters. but Ben Simmons is a total enigma. I know he's a great defender. I was talking to my buddy Ryan Rissillo yesterday at breakfast, and he said in that game against Utah, remember when Philadelphia played Utah? Like the finals, the game went to overtime. Simmons didn't even take a shot.

Overtime, last six, seven minutes of the fourth. Like, Embed for all his goofiness, delivers. He is the horse. They ride him, and they're 23 and 7 when he starts, and that's the best record. in the east, and I'm wrong. Where Colin was right? Well, last week Bruce Sard and I, Chris Broussard, had an all-star draft.

Isn't that interesting? My team was essentially the exact same team LeBron chose. Me and LeBron a couple of basketball geniuses crushed Broussard and Kevin Durant's team. Poor Chris Broussard did not stand a chance. LeBron, Steph Curry. I mean, LeBron barely even played. Kauai Leonard Very feels good

just put Broussard is back in his place a little bit where Colin was wrong Kevin Stefansky head coach at Cleveland over the weekend said it again we're going to keep O'Dell Beckham Jr. I find it

fascinating because that means Odell Beckham and Jarvis Landry will take up 15% of Cleveland's cap that's a lot for a team that needs a ton of help on the back end of their defense. I still can,

they just keep selling me. They're keeping him. I'll make a bet here. For a big pan of Taramisu with anybody on the staff. They're going to play OBJ in the first six weeks. He doesn't have a ton of trade value now because he's off an injury. They're going to play him for about six or seven weeks. Then they'll elevate his trade value and move him.

Cleveland's got too many issues in the back seven. Charvis Landry's great. Charvis Landry is a one in this league. He's not the flashiest one, but he's a low-end one receiver. You can draft a two and a three. Where Colin was right? You know, I never bought into Russell Westbrook's triple-dubill. I always said it was a gimmick.

I always said, so if he averaged nine rebounds, not 10, would he win the MVP? Well, so far this year, he's having another great year. 20 points, 9.7 rebounds, 9.8 assists. Didn't even make the Eastern All-Star team. That thing was, he was gusing his rebound. I always said, if you want to make him the MVP, because he's carrying his team to the playoffs, I don't have a problem,

but given a guy an MVP on a triple double when he's goosing certain stats, Carmelo Anthony later admitted, yeah, we wanted to get him 10 rebounds. So now he's like 0.2 and 0.3 away from a triple double. He doesn't make the Eastern All-Star team. He doesn't even make the team. Always a gimmick.

Super talented, but that was a gimmick MVP. All right. Rick Buechard is going to join us next. Some NBA thoughts. Carlos Dunlap has been released by the Seattle Seahawks, which makes total sense. Gives them 15 million or almost 15 million in cap space as their young pass rushers develop and are ready to play. So you're going to see a lot, I mean like in the recent history of the NFL, there's going to be so many good players over the next three weeks that get released. You're not going to be like borderline pro bowl guys because the cap's coming down. and a lot of these teams are in a position. They thought the cat was going to go up.

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You've been covering this guy for years and years. And I've said before is that whenever we start listing great players, maybe I'm, it just always feels like Steph is just not quite put in that class. And I always argue he's the best shooter of my life. He's the best ball handler of my life. He's probably the lowest maintenance superstar of my life. And I just love the fact that he walked back into our consciousness and dominated the weekend.

And that was like, yeah, that's who he is. Like, you've covered him. You ever surprised by stuff he does? Oh, I'm surprised all the time. I mean, just his pregame routine and some of the places that he takes shots from just as just messing around. At the end, after the shot clock has gone off, and he decides to flip the ball 40 feet in the air,

and it comes back down and hits nothing but net. I mean, there's a subtlety to what makes Steph Curry. special. He's not, even with the smaller guys like an Alan Iverson, just incredibly fast. There was just something, even a small dynamic about him. Steffs is all about the skill. There's still a subtlety to what he does. He doesn't look like he's dominating. And yet his skills and his ability, he's, he's Steve Nash supersized in terms of what he's able to do. Steve Nash was the same way. People didn't think he was athletic and yet his hand-eye coordination, his shooting, his basketball IQ. Those are all the things that Steph has.

But I will say, you are overlooking that he had a pretty good cohort with him in Damian Lillard, who was basically doing the same thing. And I think this is also part of why there's pushback on Steph, because he's a good guy, because he's an entertainer, because there's just a unique joy about how he plays the game, that he gets a lot of attention. And people are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, does he really deserve all of that attention? And if I'm in the Damian Lillard camp, and I'm not, I'm not in neither one, I would be saying, hey, look, Damian Lillard closed the game.

Damian Lillard shot 8 for 16. Damian Lillard outscored Steph. And yet what I'm hearing on shows like Colin Cowards today is that this was the Steph Curry show. Can we get just a little bit of balance here? It's either you don't think he's a superstar or you think he's the greatest thing that's ever happened to basketball. Well, I like Dame. I don't want to be a Dame hater. Blake Griffin with the Nets. First of all, speaking of guys that you're hating on. I'm not a Blake Griffin guy. I don't, he's a great athlete. I was always a Chris Paul over Blake Griffin with the Clippers. I would argue with my

friends all the time. I'm like, one's a winning basketball player. One's a great athlete. There's a massive difference. One's a top five point guard ever. One's a wing guy that I still don't trust to hit a big shot or a big free throw in a big game. I'm not denying his talent. He went to Detroit. He was never healthy.

Couldn't elevate him to a playoff win. I mean, what is he for Brooklyn? Okay. First of all, he was never healthy in Detroit. He dragged them into the playoffs. And yes, they got swept in the first round by Milwaukee. But that was probably as competitive a series as you could have for a sweet. and Blake was not healthy. I think what he demonstrated there, first of all, you go from

L.A. to Detroit and you do it happily and you embrace the challenge and you drag the, he's basically sacrificed his body in Detroit to get them to the postseason. And there's plenty of guys who go, why would I possibly do that just to get Detroit to the playoffs? So I'm not going to knock him on that. The fact of the matter is he is no longer an athlete, not in the sense that you're talking about. His strengths are that range in being able to shoot, still his strength in terms of being able to defend bigger players and then take them out to the perimeter at the other end. Passing has always been underrated and his basketball IQ. And maybe this is wishful thinking on my part, but I believe that he's going to get a chance to demonstrate those other elements. I've compared him to Jason Kidd, not the first

Dallas iteration, but the second Dallas iteration when he went back and he was no longer an athlete. He was an orchestrator. He was a three-point shooter. That's kind of the mode that Blake Griffin is in now. And I would expect that he's going to play the five in their small ball lineup. It'll be Jeff Green and Blake Griffin holding that down. Is he better than Jeff Green at this point? I don't know. Possibly not. Can he give them some moment? some games in the postseason, I believe that's what they're counting on. But I've been told by people inside the organization, he is going to play. This isn't just a vanity addition of a big name that they are genuinely hoping that he is going to be able to contribute. So LeBron,

the second chapter on LeBron's legacy, the first chapter, he's great. Second chapter is, he just plays forever. He never gets hurt and he plays. But he played 13 minutes in the All-Star game. He took a game off a couple nights ago. He does look a little weathered. And LeBron would never state this. It's not his thing. He always says the right thing. But I go back to it. Once again, this was going to be Anthony Davis's year. It does look like at times. LeBron realizes he's not 27 anymore, right? No. 100%. I mean, he's been trying to man his energy throughout this season so far. And the plan was never for him to play as many minutes or not to take any games off sooner than than he did. It was simply they had no choice. It was by necessity because AD's been out, Dennis Schrooter was out, and they did have to maintain some sort of rhythm and winning a few games here and there. The All-Star game to me was where LeBron's age became more evident than ever. Just in a... in comparison to everybody else.

And yeah, we got a couple of having, hitting a couple dunks. And, and he's, look, he's shrewd and he's smart. He knew a way to kind of look like he was part of it. But I think one of the reasons why he benched himself was because you got, you got these guys just firing threes from everywhere. He's a confident shooter when it comes to three.

He missed his first one or two, and he's like, okay, this ain't my day there. And then you got Janus just crushing everything on the inside. He's like, yeah, I'm not like that. And I don't want to look like DeMontas, It looks completely like a fish out of water in this game. So you know what? Let me get a dunk or two, and then I'm just going to let my team roll,

and I'll save my energy for the end of the season. But the difference in athleticism between LeBron and the rest of those young guns and the way the game is played now, what makes it exciting, which is the three-point shot, it was as definitive and as stark, I've seen. I think he's done a good job of hiding it or minimizing it up to this point. But the All-Star game was like, wow. Yeah, these guys are six, seven, eight years younger than he is, or they have a skill set that's more attuned to the way the game is being played right now. Yeah. Finally, listen, I think the All-Star game, I think they did a good job on it. I think the Pro Bowl's

unwatchable. I actually like the Dung Contest was kind of quirky. But overall, I mean, I thought it was a pretty good. I mean, I sat and watched it for a couple hours. I like the thing they do at the end of the game where they have a score target and they just, you hit 170, okay, game's over, let's go home. I kind of like it. They got a bunch of quirky stuff. I think it works. I mean, it's an all-story. It doesn't count. Let's make it a little quirky. What's your takeaway on the whole event? Yeah. Look, I like the quarter by quarter. I think it maintains a certain competitive edge. the adding 24 at the end makes it interesting. I mean, the bottom line is that the All-Star weekend to me was reflective of where the game has gone.

And that it was all about three-point shooting. More than 60% of the shots in the game were three-pointers. Janice didn't miss a shot, and yet it was all Steph Curry and Damien Lillard and who's going to knock down the next three from 45 feet. They've added elements to the three-point shooting contest. The three-point shooting contest was far away the most entertaining and competitive event of the weekend. Now, my question is that is this going to be what wins the championship this year? Is it going to be three-point shooting? Is it going to be three-point shooting from 35 feet?

Generally, it goes back to defense. It goes back to principles. But this has been a weird year. And I just wonder whether this is a reflection. The All-Star game and All-Star Weekend is a reflection that the NBA is pivoting toward we're just going to run up and down and we're going to be hoisting 30-footers and whoever makes the most 30-footers wins. Because this is the other part with Steph in his rise, is that the game is not physical

at all anymore. When I got guys begging for foul calls in the All-Star game, I know that this league has gotten incredibly soft. Rick Buecker joining us. Good talking to you, but thanks. You got it. Yeah, you know, it is interesting. Optically and analytically, football is kind of the same. They got rid of huddles a few years ago. Some teams are back to huddles. But the NFL, I mean, it largely looks the same. You still need a good defense or running game. It's all about getting a quarterback and protecting him. I think football,

you know, it looks a lot like it always looks to me. Baseball doesn't. I grew up with there were, I read a story the other day. There was something like 8,000 fewer hits in a season than there was like in 2011. Like there's not as many hits. It's all home runs and strikeouts. It used to be you didn't want to strike out. Now what you don't want to groundball. So analytics, baseball looks different.

There's less activity. That's not disputable. Basketball looks different optically. It's just a bunch of three point shots. So it's interesting. We got one sport, the NFL, which is it, I know there's been changes. You can't hit guys certain places. But it looks the same to me.

I mean, over the last 10 years, it doesn't look drastically different. Still get a quarterback, protect your quarterback, and get guys who can get their quarterback, and don't turn the ball over much. That wins your Super Bowls. But basketball is going through, to Rick's point, it's going through a little bit of a weird transformation. The stuff that mattered 10 years ago, like rebounding, possessions, defense, it's just who hits more threes? That's the sport now. Joy with the news.

the news. This is the herd line news. The Bears are looking at all their options for the quarterback position next season. Russell Wilson's agent said that Chicago is one of the places he would accept a trade to because he has a no trade clause in his contract. And the team is very

open to that move. The Bears' top priority this offseason when it comes to the quarterback position is reportedly to make a trade for Russ. I don't get how they would do it though. They have a lousy draft pick and they don't have a quarterback to give them. It seems to me Could be totally wrong here.

You'd have to get a third team involved. I just don't know how they'd. Like, if you went, you circumvent it and you kind of figure out who's got a quarterback they would like and you find a way, I just, I don't see the bears. I think it would be great. I would love to see it. I think historic franchise and Russell Wilson, I am here for it. I'd love to see any of the moves that he listed as possible moves.

Vegas, the Saints, Dallas, or Chicago would be incredibly. interesting. I just, again, I can't get over the idea that this is even a conversation. It's so stupid. How do you take a phone call on Russell Wilson? For what? Like, for what? You have the guy. He's the guy. It's so hard to find the guy. You get the guy. Now you want to let the go guy go. I think this all comes down to egos. I don't know what Chicago would have to put together to your point to get Russell Wilson, because I'm imagining that they're starting the price at three first rounders, plus a, a plus a capable quarterback right now. Well, Seattle and Chicago, neither one have a top 15 draft picks. So you're, I just don't think.

And future draft picks if you get first rounders from them are not going to be high draft picks because you're assuming that Russell Wilson is going to make them better. And Pete's 70. You want to start over again? You want to try to find the next Russell Wilson? I don't. There is no next Russell Wilson. I think teams get greedy and then they get conceded in the idea that they can just develop the next guy.

It's similar to what's going on in New England. England's. Like, maybe they'll get Jimmy G. But who feels good about Jimmy G. Right now? There's a reason why Jimmy G. His name keeps popping up in all these conversations because he's not reliable. Well, you know, I remember 30 years ago having a conversation

with somebody. And he's like, what allows you to succeed in America is our infrastructure bridges roads. And I'm like, what do you mean? He said, if you grow up in an undeveloped country, you could be smarter than you are now. You'd have trouble

getting to a workplace. Like in an undeveloped country, getting a second vaccine shot is a massive challenge. Let's talk about Johnson and Johnson vaccine is a one-shot vaccine. In an underdeveloped country, it's easy to restore. And it said, so the point was this person said, never take for granted the country you live in

because you can succeed if you're just ambitious in America. You don't worry about transportation, roads, getting food. and it's sort of like similarly with Russell Wilson. So you have Russell Wilson, and you just forget how easy winning is. Because he's good at the line, your bad offensive line play. Oh, he just escaped sacks. So this happens in America when you succeed and you forget the reason everybody gets arrogant when they succeed

and we're all lucky to be in America because our infrastructure is solid. You start forgetting all the plays in New England that Tom, Brady audibled out of that Belichick never had to deal with crap because Brady audibled out of them. And how many plays have been poorly designed in Seattle? And Rush runs out of a sack. You just, when you get successful, you forget the base, the infrastructure, which allows you to be successful. Well, they're just a little spoiled. Yeah, a little. I mean, you had Mel Khyper's list of guys up and we talked about some Hall of Famers that struggled for a very long time to win a Super Bowl. It's not that easy.

to win in the NFL. They get spoiled. Like, teams that are consistently great start to think, well, you know what? We are really great. Maybe it's me. Maybe we could do this with anybody. Let's think about the conversation in the New England. We were hearing out of New England.

We could do this with anyone. Can you? By the way, Mahalms went back to the Super Bowl this year and got rolled with a great coach. And he is the consensus best quarterback in the league right now. Got destroyed by Brady. Like the idea, you just, you forget, you win a Super Bowl. Dan Marino got to one early? You never got back.

It's very hard to win Super Bowls. I don't know how you just make, don't just make it work with Russell Wilson, figure it out. So the Eagles traded away Carson Wentz paving the way for Jalen Hertz to step up as the starter next season. And owner Jeffrey Lurie is planning on Hertz getting the job. He was reportedly told the Eagles personnel department to prioritize getting Hertz help so he can be successful instead of bringing in more quarterback competition. I'd love to hear this.

This is great news to me. I know a lot of people are still very unsure about Jaylen Hertz. But you drafted him pretty high and you got rid of Carson Wentz, who was, again, your guy that you paid and was, you know, won this fandom MVP that everyone keeps talking about. Why wouldn't you build around Jalen Hertz? Quarterback competitions are not a good thing. That's not a good thing.

No. People try to pitch it every single year. We're going into camp and the best guy I win. Well, the best guy can't be that good if you are setting up a quarterback competition for that position. Even in college, when a good program brings you. two quarterbacks. One always transfers like a year later. Like quarterback's the only position where, well, this is my team. Yeah. So if you're going to draft a guy in the second round and you had to fire your coach

and trade your star quarterback because of it, how do you not give him a year 16 games? Because your old line gets healthier now. This is the only move to make. And by the way, I've said this before. I don't think he's a great thrower of the football. But different Different history proves. Kaepernet got to a Super Bowl. Lamar was the MVP. Different works in the NFL. Tebow couldn't throw the ball.

He won seven straight games, got to a playoff game. The question is, does different work long term? Now, now it's hit and miss on that. But different styles almost always work. Kyler Murray looks completely different than Lamar Jackson. It looks completely different than Baker Mayfield. You don't have to have a box that a quarterback fits in anymore. I agree with you.

I think it's nonsense. to draft another quarterback with that pick. Draft a great player. Build around him and give him a year. It was complete dysfunction last year. So start new, give him an opportunity, and draft good players. Bringing in another quarterback makes no sense to me.

So Anthony Simons won the dunk contest last night, edging out, rookies, O.B. Topin, and Cassius Stanley. He nearly kissed the rim on his last dunk. No kissing the rim during COVID. Sealed the victory with a three to two vote on the judge's final rounds, and he became the first member of the Trailblazers to ever win the events.

Look at this. Good Lord. It's really ridiculous. It's ridiculous how high you got out there. But I did like Obie's sunk over Julius Randall and his dad. I don't understand this. I knew they weren't going to give it to him because he touched Julius as he was jumping over. Like, I don't, I don't, Julie.

He's six foot eight. So you jump over two six feet eight men, Tomahawk it. And everybody was like, I've seen it before. I'm like, does everybody understand? Like, our standards now. Oh, yeah, they're getting a little out of control. Like, it's still amazing we get to Mars.

We don't have to have a hotel on Mars next week to think we're doing innovative things. O'Bopin, jumps over two six, eight guys, and tomahawked it. And everybody was just, look at these dunks. Yeah, we're a little spoiled. A little. Look at this. See, so because he used his shoulder, I think, that they. Oh, yeah.

And knocked it for that. I don't know. The Dunn contest is obviously all just opinion-based, but, and listen, I didn't think Anthony didn't deserve it. Look at this. Incredible, but I thought that was more impressive than they gave him credit for. I don't know, maybe just me and I'm 5'2, but. Listen, basketball's artistry to a large degree, I thought you saw a ton of it this weekend. Yeah, I didn't have high expectations for the Dunn contest.

They're doing it a half-time. There's not as many guys participating in it. They didn't have as much time to set things up. And it's, you know, it's young guys that most of the casual fans are getting to know still. So I thought it was entertaining. I thought the NBA did a great job with the whole night, considering that we're making all this happen during a pandemic. And I thought the whole night was really fun.

Yeah, I watched all of it. I thought it was entertaining. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Lye News. The latest breaking NFL stuff. There's going to be a lot of good players that hit the market.

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They gave up nothing for him. They got him for a year for a playoff run. He delivered. Good guy, good player. Seattle moves off. It makes total sense. Smart move. He'll be out there.

Cleveland said this. weekend, O'Dell Beckham is part of their future plans. I think they say that. I think they'd like to build up OBJ's market value because he's off an injury and he doesn't have much value. But this is interesting. Adam Schaefter reporting that O'Dell Beckham to Tampa Bay and Brady is challenging, but Tom Brady wants him.

Now, this is actually an interesting fit for two reasons. First of all, Brady's got a lot of power in the building, and he has a surplus of weapons. So Cleveland has a great receiver, Jarvis Landry, who's a lower end one or the best two in the league. So if they let go of OBJ, they would need a receiver in return. Well, yeah, but that's because Tampa's loaded. I was writing this down. This makes sense. So Odell Beckin would want this and Brady would want this.

So you know the players want it. So right now, according to a report, Tampa's going to franchise tag Chris Godwin. They've got $19 million in cap space. so they got some money. Brady's going to rework his deal, maybe to get him 22, 23. So they've got Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Scotty Miller, A.B. Gronk, Cameron Brate, O.J. Howard, Ronald Jones, the running back. And they have a young receiver named Tyler Johnson, who's more of a three. He's not a burner. He's got good hands.

He made that great catch against Green Bay. Only had about 12, 15 catches. He's never going to be a one, probably not a two, but a good three out of Minnesota. So he's got nine weapons. I mean, just think about that. Look what New England has now. Brady's like taunting New England. He is taunting them. But this makes sense because Cleveland, if they got rid of O'Dell Beckham,

wouldn't need receivers. You could send Scotty Miller, Tyler Johnson. I mean, you could send them two guys, number two and three guys. So that makes a little sense. Brady wants it. O'Dell Beckham would want it in a second. And O'Dell Beckham is really expensive, but not too expensive for Tom Brady and Tampa if he reworks his contract.

It is, it's fascinating. As Joy talked earlier, it's one thing to get the star, but you're seeing it now with the Brooklyn Nets. Once you get a star, it's not that you get him. It's that this generation, and this is not a shot at millennials. They've watched all of us like me struggle. Millennials, like basketball players, have played in AAU. They didn't play on crappy high school teams. They, like joined all-star teams.

And they're like, well, I don't want to struggle. I would rather join better players. So the new generation of athletes, and I know in my generation, it's, we had to walk uphill both ways. Yeah, but if we didn't have to, we wouldn't have. If dad owned a Ferrari, we would have driven uphill both ways in a Ferrari. It would have been fine. So young basketball players are like, loyalty, just go play for a better team.

Like Blake Griffin, yeah, I'll go play for Brooklyn. Why wouldn't I? So it's very rare to get a Chris Paul who goes to these reclamation projects gladly and turns it around. He's okay doing that. But when you look at a lot of these football players out there, O'Dell Beckham's like, I want to win in games. Of course, he wants some games. And so I think what Brady's doing in Tampa is fascinating. It shows you the power of the superstar in sports that New England thought, you know, hey, we got a great system.

But the minute New England lost Brady, Matt Stafford's like, I'll go anywhere. New England. Like, that's the power. You didn't lose just Tom Brady. You lost the power of recruiting from Tom Brady. He got Gronk out of retirement. This O'Dell Beckham thing, you know they've been on the phone. He got Antonio Brown.

He asked him to get another running back. They got Leonard Fernette. It's the power of the star and the ability to get veteran guys, take a pay cut, come out of retirement, go get a ring. God, they are. Tampa is just filthy. loaded weapons. It's incredible how many players

they have. The fact they would even need Odell Beckham is they're just he's taunting Belichick. Yeah, I don't know if it's a need thing. It's more of a wants. It's the taunting thing makes perfect sense. I mean, what's better than Tom Brady getting Odell Beckham Jr.?

Especially considering he's coming off of an injury there's a little bit of doubt now surrounding Odell. You know, Izzy is good. It's his star value and all of that. I mean, I he also Brady he understands the value of content being relevant as well at this point in his career so he is reinventing ways to stay at top of the conversation and at top of the league at the same time which is brilliant it really is yeah and Brady will probably take a pay cut well he's I mean he's going to have to if he's like it's not it's not going to match all the talk of keeping everybody together and running it back it's and why why not he wants to keep playing so it doesn't matter if they spread his money out for a couple more years. This is such a good relationship.

I mean, it really fits. They had a GM that was a good drafter, especially on skill people, and they just couldn't get the quarterback right. And Brady's like, I'll be the quarterback. You guys do everything else right. I mean, Tampa for years. It's had great coaches.

They've had great players. They can't get the quarterback right. And Brady smartly looks at it and goes, oh, I'll solve that. And now you see how much talent they have. So Schaefter's saying, O'Dell Beckham to Buck's challenging but Jeff Darlington reported Beckham to the box last month.

So that means it's out there. I love it. I think it's an all-star team, man. It's incredible. All right, good stuff. Hour number three coming up. Cremel Barber Shave Cream, Close Comfortable Shave. It's what I use.

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