The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 03/08/2021 - HOUR 3 - Midseason grades
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Sometimes our best conversations are off the air.
I was just talking to Eric Mangini.
He worked under Bill Parcells and Velichick and quirky Jim Harbaugh.
He's got thick skin.
These stories are, you know, that's what we should do and just charge advertisers
a fortune.
You can just, there's a secret feed where during the break you can listen to us talk.
And I would just charge everybody for it.
We could just save some of it for on air too.
Yeah.
When I want to talk, I want to talk.
I like that.
innovative, though. There's something there. There's
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Here, I'll throw this one to you. Here's
one. You live in Cleveland.
I do.
So, I mean, just that fact alone,
you wake up every morning with stuff to
overcome. Okay.
Here's a story.
Odell Beckham
to Tommy and Tampa.
Initial reaction, what is it?
I love it. I love it.
And look, Tampa Bay is a totally different situation than everywhere else.
And Tom Brady is a totally different situation than everybody else has.
And guys that may struggle in other organizations or may not reach their peak in other organizations.
With Tom, it's not going to be like that.
You know if you're going there, you've got a chance to win the Super Bowl.
And you know you're working with the greatest quarterback of all time.
I mean, you know if you do the right thing, he's going to get you the ball.
So the level of motivation with every player is as high as it's going to be.
Yeah.
And I think to have another explosive playmaker like Odell, I mean, dealing with Odell and Antonio Brown and the list that goes on, that's rough.
You're a defensive guy.
I'm not sure.
I mean, seriously, it's like Kansas City on steroids.
It's like the chiefs on steroids.
There's just so many.
You can't double anybody.
You can't roll coverage over on anybody.
No, and everybody's probably going to be open.
Take your pick.
Because those guys are wrong.
They're just hard to deal with.
They're hard to deal with.
So Greg Bedard's a legitimate reporter.
He's been in Boston area forever.
When he says something, I usually believe him.
He reported this morning, Jimmy Garapolo is far and away the Patriots Plan A,
which is funny because he's on another team.
What do you make of that?
I don't know how it's plan A.
First of all, I don't know how anybody knows what the Patriots plans are
because the only people that really know are Bill and maybe Ernie Adams at this point.
So to say one guy is plan A, he's plan A because everybody knows that he used to play for the Patriots
and he could be on the street.
So that makes him plan A.
But you can't go into an offseason talking about another team's player as plan A.
unless you've got some kind of deal in place.
So it makes no sense.
It makes no sense to categorize it that way.
All right.
So Jalen Hertz, so here's my theory.
If you're going to draft a quarterback in the second round
and it eventually gets your coach fired and your star quarterback traded,
if you draft another quarterback, Philadelphia, at number six,
so you're telling me your number two pick last year, you overdraft it.
Because if you draft a guy, these days,
quarterbacks are ready to play much sooner than they were 10 years ago.
So if you draft Jalen Hertz in the second round and he gets your coach fired and your star quarterback traded and then you can draft another quarterback, it kind of tells me optics.
If I'm a fan, I'm like, my team doesn't know what they're doing.
I mean, don't you have to get him weapons?
They're not a Super Bowl team right now.
Don't you have to just get him weapons, roll him out for 16 games and see what you got?
Well, I read the report today that said that they want to go all in on them and they want to help them be successful.
I just don't know how you can do that at this point.
You look at how he played, and there were some good things,
but there's a lot more good things that Carson Wentz had done
over the course of his career there,
and they moved on from him.
The report come out this strong at this point in the year,
to me, feels like maybe they do want a quarterback,
but they want everybody to think they don't want a quarterback.
Maybe this is one of those things where they tell everybody,
yeah, we're great where we are.
We're not interested in any quarterbacks so that when they're sitting there at six, people aren't going to jump over them and try to get their guy.
It's hard to imagine saying we're going all in on a guy that they have such little exposure to.
And the new head coach doesn't know at all.
Yeah.
You know, we were saying this morning with Sam Darnold, he appears to have a market.
Washington, we're in March.
They don't have a quarterback.
And they don't have a good draft pick to get one.
Chicago has Nick Foles, but Matt and Aggie wants to move the pocket around.
They liked actually Trubisky's ability to be an athlete that just didn't love him as his throwing skills.
And then, you know, New England's got their situation.
And I look at Sam Darnold and I think San Francisco reportedly, John Lynch liked him when he came out.
Is there a best fit for him?
Yeah, I like him where he is.
I like if you if you feel like you're going to get legitimate draft value for the guy and that he's worth a two or he's worth whatever whatever your market is and you're not just trying to move them.
Why wouldn't you keep them?
You've changed the head coach.
You're going to get a different environment.
You've got a ton of draft capital.
What do they have two ones, two threes, two fives?
You've got a ton of cash.
You're in a division that has all young quarterbacks.
It's not like Buffalo has.
has that division locked down, why wouldn't you see whether or not this can work, take that
second pick in the draft, trade back, get even more capital, and build a young, talented team
that can compete for the long term in a division that really is wide open.
Yeah, I'm going to throw this theory at you.
Okay.
Seattle lets go of Carlos Dunlap clears up almost 15 million of cap space.
they send out a letter to their season ticket holders
about the upcoming season.
They put all their star players in it,
except Russell Wilson.
Okay.
They're clearing cap space
because if they move Russell,
they have so much dead money,
they're still viable.
They're not going to sign Chris Carson,
the running back.
Carlos Dunlap's gone.
It's my crazy theory.
They won't put him in a newsletter to fans.
Pete Carroll move Richard Sherman and Earl Thomas,
the minute they went public.
That's not Pete's thing.
You go public, you're gone.
Is that Seattle is getting ready to move him and clear as much cap space as they can
so they're not getting crushed this year with a cap.
Think I'm nuts?
I think you're nuts.
They were middle of the pack in cap space.
They had like $11 million in cap space the last time I looked.
So cutting him or they're not going to cut him, but trading him is going to cost $39 million
in dead money.
So that's the highest, that would be the highest dead cap charge in the history of the NFL on top of Carson Wentz's 31 that they just, you know, that they just saw.
So you're going to have to move a lot of players around in order to move on from Russell Wilson.
It doesn't, it doesn't make financial sense, especially in this environment where you don't really know exactly what the cap is.
it's going to be a down year from a cap perspective.
And he, I mean, is it what he's doing that bad?
It's a starting quarterback that can bring you to the Super Bowl.
At some point, you just got to get over it.
Like, he's a little bit unhappy.
Okay.
You know what's going to make you really unhappy?
Losing a ton of games with a quarterback that can't play.
That'll make you really unhappy.
Okay.
So I'm not a quarterback guru.
although.
Are you aren't?
You play one on TV.
Smart, Alec.
Okay, so I'm hearing a lot of this now.
I think there's a difference between a prodigy and a prospect.
And Andrew Luck was the first quarterback I ever said on the air.
Can't miss.
That's going to be great.
And by the way, he won 11 games, 11 games and 11 games with an awful roster.
The second quarterback I'm going to say that about,
is Trevor Lawrence.
Listen, as long as their offensive line is not the Jets, he's going to win a bunch of games.
Now I'm hearing, oh, my God, the Zach Wilson guy.
Oh, he may be better than Trevor Lawrence.
And my takeaway is when we anoint somebody great as a freshman,
all we do for the next three years is nitpick him and look for the new flashy guy.
If you look at Trevor Lawrence, doesn't he look different than everybody else in the quarterback field?
What I love about Trevor Lawrence is TD to interception ratio.
And you and I have talked about this a lot.
It says that this player makes good decisions,
and he consistently makes good decisions,
and the numbers have been good every year that he's played.
And that's been one of my concerns with Sam Darnold,
is it shows a pattern of decision-making that's solid.
And that's hard to teach,
as much as you try to teach that, it's not a skill that is easy by any stretch and comes with a lot of
experience. And now you push a guy like that in the NFL where he's going to be exposed to
volumes and volumes of coverages and variations and you like his chances to continue to make good
decisions. That's one of the things that I love about the guy. By the way, you were a defensive guy
and a special teams guy and a secondary guy. If you had to draft a quarterback, who would
you lean on? Or would you say, hey, listen, I face him, I'm a defensive guy. Like with
quarterbacks, when you're running a team like you were Belichick when you were with him or
Parcells and you make these big decisions, do you lean on people for certain positions? Like,
if you're not a quarterback guy, you coach defense, who would you lean on?
Well, you try to, you're going to talk to the offensive staff. You're going to talk to the
offense coordinator. And then you look at your scouting staff. And every year, good organizations
should go through and look at their scouts and see what their hit rate is.
And typically, you have guys in your scouting staff that are better at some positions than
others.
So, you know, one guy may be really good at O line and is terrible at defensive tackles or
defensive line.
So you disregard, or you don't disregard, but you kind of put his D-line reports to the side
and you put more merit in the place where he has strength.
Look, there's tons of studies.
there's tons of psych evaluations.
There's so much information that you try to get certainty from,
but then you have Tom Brady.
You know, then you have Aaron Rogers going where he goes
or take your pick, Russell Wilson.
As much certainty as you try to get,
you just don't know.
There's still an element of sheer luck to this,
which seems ridiculous, right?
It seems ridiculous for the amount of Tom,
money, effort, and experience that goes into evaluating these guys, but they're kids.
They're kids.
Yeah.
I saw Dak Prescott.
I remember seeing Dak Prescott, and I said he's a way better version of Tim Tebow.
Like he feels like an NFL athlete.
He throws better than Tebow, but I'm like, I wonder if I could use him at tight end.
I really like Dak Prescott.
I watched him in Mississippi State.
And then I look back at it after he had success, and I'm like, well, God, he was underdress,
that bad offensive lines.
He was getting crushed at Mississippi State.
And then I go look back in high.
time sign. I'm like, yeah, I should have seen. He was basically carrying an entire program on his
back, which is essentially a real strength of character and judgment. And what has he done in the
NFL? He's got this intangibles character and judgment. And I just saw him as he didn't throw a very
pretty ball, but what I should have seen is, God, he was getting crushed. He was getting
crushed. He had no offensive line help. And he was carrying a program getting dinged and hit.
So I just saw the wrong stuff, right? Well, it's the same. When we
watching Russell Wilson, I remember writing down, I don't know where this guy is going to fit on
the team, but I want him on my team. And because his size was a real concern, and it was hard to
project him being a starting quarterback, but he did so many things really well and, and popped
in so many different ways. And you heard about what a good person he was and the intangibles. And you're
thinking, how do I get this guy on my team, even if it's not going to work out at quarterback?
Yeah.
Eric Mangini, beautiful Ohio.
It's a great day in Ohio.
It is sunny today.
It feels like fall here, which is an upgrade from winter.
It's a nice, it's a nice fall day today here, Kyle.
In March, great.
Yeah, March.
Eric, good talking to you.
We'll see you later.
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Well, Steph Curry walked away with his second three-point contest win last night in Atlanta.
That was only a second?
Second, yes.
He had a slow start in the final round, but he got hot and hit the final moneyball shot to win it over Mike Connolly at 28 to 27.
It was actually a very dramatic finish for what kind of started off as a little bit of a slow three-point contest.
But once Steph got going, he's the best.
How about Mike Connolly finishing second?
I love this for Mike Connolly.
The whole weekend, it was great.
He was a late add-in.
And his 14th year, first time All-Star.
So, yeah, there was a lot of great storylines last night.
Also, in the Skills Challenge, Pacer's Big Man, DeMontas Sabonis, got the win.
He beat out other fellow big, Nigel Avutrovich in the final round,
became the fourth Big Man in the last six seasons to win the competition.
And they were talking about it a little bit on the broadcast.
But the bigs are so skilled now.
Like, we talked about it earlier with Rufuco.
The game is completely changed.
You've got to be able to hit threes.
So many great passing Big Men now.
And this is not a terrible surprise, but four out of the last six seasons,
Spigs winning the Diskills competition.
I like these probably more than most people.
Oh, I like them.
I think they're fun.
I think they're fun.
And, you know, they enjoy it.
Like, it's fun to see the players take it seriously and then, like, get kind of disappointed,
but then are happy for each other when they lose.
So I thought it was a nice night for the NBA last night.
Good for him.
Gonzaga.
Gonzaga guy.
Now, his dad was Arvitas.
Yes.
Who I covered in Portland, who came into the NBA at first.
30. So his prime years, six, seven of his prime years,
Arvetus was the best passing big I've ever seen by far.
The best passing big. Remarkable shooter.
Lithuania star.
I think if I go back to those Portland years, people loved him in Portland.
He was literally a better passer than Portland's back court.
And I'm not joking on that. He was a brilliant, he and Bill, Portland's probably the two best
passing big men of my life.
ever in basketball. Bill Walton and Arvita Sabonis are two of the best passing bigs ever.
So Juju's Ms. Schuster is set to become a free agent. He has been vocal about wanting to stay
with Pittsburgh, but might not be able to get the money he wants. Sealers.com broke down the
team's wide receivers. And due to the team's cap restrictions, they think that Juju is unlikely
to accept what the team would be able to pay him with a new contract. He signed a four-year deal,
4.1 million after being drafted in 2017. He's a very good slot receiver. They're not
He's one of the better ones in the league, to be honest with you.
I'm not sure.
You know what?
If I'd make room for him, because I like Claypool from Notre Dame.
Chase, Claypool, yeah.
Yeah, if you gave me Juju Smith-Schuster and Chase Claypool, I could get rid of the other guys.
But I wouldn't, I always feel like he's a great two, like a top five two in the league.
But you also want people who want to be a part of your organization.
Does he not want to be there?
No, he does.
He does.
I think there's value in that also.
Now, his current market value is projected to $81 million over.
five years according to SpotTrack.
And he commented, now let's talk
on an Instagram post in response
to the news of Rothesberger's new
contract. What's Spot Talk?
What is that? Spot Track. What is
that? Tracks what
You should be paid.
Yeah, what you should be paid. Like that's his market value.
To me, if I'm, in Pittsburgh has a history
of getting receivers. I want Claypool.
I want Juju. Everybody else I can move.
He had 97 receptions, 8131 yards, and nine
touchdowns last year. He's a
highly productive NFL player.
He's a little, you know, on social.
Some people generationally think he's too much into social,
but here's what I know on Sunday.
He makes seven catches.
That's what I get from him.
And that's what matters.
And by the way, I mean, obviously it doesn't bother me.
I think people are very out of touch with how much people enjoy that.
Like, I got, the story got a little out of control last year
with them dancing on those logos and people really,
it's really absurd the reaction to it, actually.
just being disrespectful.
All right, calm down.
I think that they should keep him,
and they're going to try and figure out a way to make it work.
They're so deep on defense.
You could, I think, bud, isn't Dupree like a free agent?
The problem is they have a lot of free agents,
and the number one thing that they need is a running back.
Okay.
That needs to be their priority.
Well, I like Dupree, but they're so deep at linebacker.
I could move off him and keep Juju,
and I draft a running back.
Trevor Lawrence is clearly the top quarterback in this year's draft
well at least according to us he is
though there's a lot of talks about Zach Wilson
being better than him but he was also considered one of the best in recent memory
Mel Kuyper has been a draft analyst for decades
and he put Lawrence as one of the highest graded quarterback prospects he's ever evaluated
he ranked Lawrence fourth only behind John Elway
Andrew Luck and Peyton Manning
what stuck out to me in this list is the amount of Hall of Famers on this list
Elway, Peyton Manning, Jim Kelly, Troy Aikman,
and then obviously Josh Allen in the top ten as well.
But Drew Bledsoe obviously had a very highly productive career as well,
won a Super Bowl.
Usually, I mean, listen, everybody wants to talk about sleepers,
and by and large, you can tell.
I mean, there's...
We do this every year with the draft,
and I don't know why we haven't caught on to the fact that we do this.
And by we, I don't mean me, because I'm not doing this.
Trevor Lawrence is the best quarterback prospect in the draft, period.
I don't know how we even landed in the conversation of like,
no, he could be better or as good as.
Like, no, he's not.
We saw him with a very productive team, be productive,
and get better every single year and win in giant moments.
Like, what are we talking about here?
Right.
What happens is we have, we cover this for so long.
That's right.
And we have to spend so much time-filling content that we start evaluating.
And then it starts to kind of spiral into like, well, maybe he's not as, you know,
we want to make a little intro.
We did this with Zion, and we keep forgetting.
These are 20-year-old kids.
Well, you know, Zion's jump shot, he went to class at Duke.
You can practice like 17 hours a week.
He's not in a gym all day at Duke.
It's not the way it works.
Like, when I look at NBA prospects, nobody now comes out of college ready to dominate.
It's like that, that's 80s, 90s.
Do you have the raw tools and do I like you as a kid?
Do you look, do you, like Zion was like, oh, that kid loves bad.
And what does dominate?
Why?
I feel like because we live in such a microwave society,
we expect things to happen immediately at the highest level.
And then we judge these outliers and make them the norm.
These are still very young men who are still learning the game
and then are going to adjust to the speed of the game, accelerating.
And instead of going up against other young men,
they're now going up against grown men with grown men bodies,
who have wear and tear and cows that they don't know anything about yet.
Just calm down with the evaluation.
Trevor Lawrence is the best prospect in this draft.
It is clear. There's no need to overanalyze the situation.
We'll just take him out and then start analyzing from there.
It's just nonsense.
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Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed.
And finding ways to win no matter what.
He's the smartest player to ever play the game.
His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before.
And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game.
We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs.
I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy
in the lineup, he has to really guard
guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard
Julius Randall. And then he has to give us
everything he gives us on the night-to-night bases
on offense. And when IT's friends
stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive
into some playoff history too.
Steve Nass, get that thing.
That man, hell get the flying. He run
running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the
ball, like, after you go
through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you
figure it out real quick. Get
your ass up and down the court, and you
going to get the ball. So listen to
Point game on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
If you're watching the latest season of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, you already know there's a lot to break down.
Gorsha accusing Kelly of sleeping with a merry man.
They holding Kay Michelle back from fighting Drew.
Pinky has financial issues.
I like the bougie style of Housewives show.
I think it looks like to be interesting.
On the podcast, Reality with the King, I, Carlos King, recap the biggest moments from your favorite reality.
shows, including the Real House Wise franchise, the drama, the alliances, and the T, everybody's
talking about.
As an executive producer in reality television, I'm not just watching it.
I understand the game.
As somebody who creates shows, I'll even say this.
At the end of the day, when people are at home, they want entertainment.
To hear this and more, listen to Reality with the King on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
The story I've told myself about love or relationships can then shape my behavior,
and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection.
This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast deeply well with Debbie Brown
and explore the journey of healing, self-discovery, and returning to yourself.
We explore higher consciousness, emotional well-being, and the practices that help you find clarity,
peace and self-mastery in a world that can feel overwhelming.
The world is becoming lonelier.
We're not becoming more social and connected.
We're becoming more individualized, but we actually meet people in connection.
If you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole,
this podcast is for you to hear more.
Listen to deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart
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It's your podcast.
Good to have you in.
Halfway through the NBA season, All-Star Game this weekend.
Yesterday was the All-Star game.
I'm going to hand out my mid-season NBA awards.
Joy, let's go.
Let's hand them out.
Let's make some kids very, very happy.
Okay.
Best face in a new place, Lamello Ball, James Hardin, Chris Paul, or Doc Rivers?
Not an easy choice.
All done a really.
good job, but I'm going to go with 35-year-old Chris Paul,
back-to-back All-Star at 35.
This is what a winning player does.
With the Hornets, Clippers, Rockets, Thunder, and now Suns,
each team has increased their winning percentage when he arrived.
Phoenix has not made the playoffs in 11 years.
In fact, they've been bad.
The only time for a moment we liked them was in the bubble last year,
which is a weird year.
Now they have one of the top records, second best record.
in the NBA. Classic Chris Paul.
Most exciting players, Steph Curry, LeBron James, Damien Lillard, or Zion Williamson.
Again, tough choice. I like new stuff, Zion Williamson.
19 points a game in the paint leads the NBA. Just to think how young he is.
He has 20 plus points on 50% shooting in 14 straight games. History of the league.
He's ever done that.
And his game is so different than everybody else.
We are scratching the surface on Zion.
Best player not named LeBron.
Yonis Enstacompo, Steph Curry, Joelle Embed, James Hardin.
Went back and forth, but it is a three-ball shooting league and all say Steph Curry.
Okay.
Steph Curry right now leads the NBA with 169 made three-pointers.
That is the league's future.
he's averaged a fourth leading score
and he doesn't have Clay Thompson
and he's got some disparate parts he's making work
and they're very close to be in a playoff team.
Net who will cause the most friction
Kevin Durant, Blake Griffin, James Hardin, or Kyrie Irving?
Kevin Durant's pretty chill.
Blake Griffin's lucky to be there.
James Hardin is just happy he's not in Houston.
So if you're giving me the choice, I'd say Kyrie Irving
who's already missed 11 games.
He had that little COVID party thing
where he didn't wear a mask, wasn't very good.
Took kind of a hiatus in January.
So given the choice, I think James Hardin and Blake Griffin are just so happy to be there.
Player you want to see traded.
Bradley Beal, Kyrie Irving, Ben Simmons, Nikola Nikola Vujavich.
We'll have been on this forever, Bradley Beal.
Leads the NBA in scoring.
Washington's never gotten past the second round.
He has this strange loyalty to the Wizards.
I know LeBron loves him.
I've been told that by LeBron's camp.
They've been eyeing him for years.
I'm not sure why people don't make a run.
He is expensive.
But I just feel he's got a very consistent personality.
He scores 40 points a lot.
The problem is when he does,
they've lost 11 straight because he got nobody else to balance him out.
The most surprising team, Jazz, Knicks, Nets, or Sons?
I got to give it to the Knicks.
I mean, Julius Randall's a very solid player, R.J. Barrett, you loved him out of college, very talented.
But I thought the whole Tom Fibito doing gassers, you know, like, it isn't going to work.
And right now they're above 500.
They play very well together.
I do wonder minutes-wise, you know, he'll push.
He's like Pat Riley 30 years ago.
He'll push guys.
But the Knicks are interesting.
And that's good for the NBA.
It is.
Future face of the NBA.
Janice, Lamello, Luca, or Zion?
I'm going to go Zion.
I want to read you a stat.
The only player to score more points than Zion Williamson
through his first 58 NBA games in the three-point era, Michael Jordan.
And he's got a Michael Jordan buzz about him, the look, the likability, the intent,
intensity, the passion.
There are just a lot of qualities here.
He's a marketing person's fantasy.
Loves the game.
Kind of plays different.
Like physically, Michael was doing stuff, jumping from the free throw line.
We hadn't seen since, like, Dr. J.
Zion is like Barclay, but I think stronger.
The Sleeping Giant, Celtics, Heat, Mavericks, or Warriors.
I'm going to go Mavs.
They've won eight of their last 10.
Now, Porzingas got hurt early, so they weren't very good early.
They also had a COVID outbreak.
So I think they're a pretty interesting team.
Luca feels like 30 a night.
Won 10 of 13 heading into the All-Star break.
They've got to become a better defensive team.
But they're playing really well right now.
Biggester, 76ers, Jazz, Knicks, or Spurs?
Spurs don't have a player averaging more than 20 a game.
that's problematic in the playoffs.
And it was about a week ago or two weeks ago,
I looked up the top 100 three-point shooters in the NBA.
They had Patty Mills and one other player,
but analytically, they feel behind other teams,
and I just, I don't buy you can win it with a bunch of guys scoring 14.
Most underappreciated.
Steph Curry, LeBron James, Damien Lillard, or Chris Paul.
We don't need to go into it.
I think Steph Curry is laughably.
underappreciated. We just hadn't seen him do anything on a big scale in two years, and he pretty
much took over the All-Star game. It's what he does. Lakers' biggest West Challenger, Clippers,
Jazz, Sons, or Blazers? I would say Clippers, because they have good wing defenders in Paul
George and Kauai, and those guys have missed. Let me look it up. Paul's missed 11 games, Kauai 8,
and they're still the four seed. I don't think their bench is as good as last year.
But I do think the second year together probably be better than the first.
Again, again, I think Utah's good, but they have a hole.
They don't have a wing, Joe Ingalls, they don't have a wing defender to guard LeBron.
And I think you put, you know, if LeBron plays 36 minutes in a playoff game,
and I can put Kauai on him for 20 and Paul George on him for 16 to 18,
you can make his life a little more difficult.
Player you want taking the last shot.
Steph Curry, Damian Lillard, LeBron James, or Zion Way.
Now this is close, actually, because I think Damian Lillard has got a confidence about him.
Damien's really good.
But I'm on a Steph Curry bandwagon today.
So he leads the NBA with 4.8 made three-pointers a game.
He's shooting 48% from three in clutch time this season.
Listen, I've said before in the show, Dame and Steph Curry are the two best.
last shot of the game guy you know it's funny and they went to davidson and weber state and i was
watching this yesterday the all-stars yonis lucca abroad davidson the bronze high school
there's many different ways you can get there's a lot of different routes paul george went to fresno
state uh kawai went to san diego state and not a lot of duke guys i mean it really
It's funny.
We say this about quarterbacks in the NFL.
Look at all these all stars and look at all the places they come from.
There's something to being overlooked and having to overcome some stuff.
A little chip on your shoulder.
Damian Weber State, Steph Curry, Davidson, LeBron High School.
Zion's a duker for one year.
Well, all right, good stuff.
Speak for yourself is around the corner.
Good to have Joy Taylor back on the show today.
And here we go.
Keep your eye on the NFL stuff.
Another podcast from some SNL
late night comedy guy, not quite.
Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends.
Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman
help make you funnier.
This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day
and head writer Streeter Seidel
help an a cappella band with their between
songs banter.
Where does your group perform?
We do some retirement homes.
Those people are starving for banter.
Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends
on the IHeart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
What's up, fam?
It's Isaiah Thomas.
And I'm C.J. Toledano.
It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast, Point Game, the playoffs.
We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season.
And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments.
If we didn't talk ever again, I was harmed.
You just understood.
That's how personal it got.
Wow.
Then after that game 7, Marquis keep coming to him.
He's like, you know, I love you, dog.
You know, it's all love.
This was just playoffs.
This was just basketball.
So listen to Point Game on the I Heart Radio
Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro 1021.
And I'm Kunky, his best friend, and business manager.
And we've got a new show called The 1021 Podcast.
I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers.
We also love sports.
And with the World Cup right around the corner,
we'll be breaking down the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA.
Listen to the 1021 podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
The story I've told myself can then shape my behavior, and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection.
This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast deeply well with Debbie Brown if you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole.
This podcast is for you to hear more.
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