The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 03/10/2021 - Best of The Herd

Episode Date: March 10, 2021

Colin discovers a new trend and the secret to winning championships in professional sports. He also criticizes the Green Bay Packers for the conservative approach and why Aaron Rodgers deserves better.... He shares his “Highs and Lows” for the quarterback prospects in this year’s NFL draft. Plus, Nick Wright from First Things First joins the show to tell Colin where Odell Beckham Jr. might be playing next season.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:44 The herd brought to you by Jersey Mike's subs. Be a sub above. Joy Taylor is joining me. Talked a lot of Dack Prescott yesterday, scaling back a little today on the Dack Prescott talk. Little. I don't think we've ever talked more about someone's contracts. And you and I are not even contract people.
Starting point is 00:03:04 It had to always been. I don't make more money if someone else makes less money. I don't like to talk about guys' money. Yeah, it's just, even mobsters who whack people. The rule is like, don't sell heroin and don't talk about a guy's money. Are those the rules? I think they are.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Whack guys, make sure the boss is happy, but, you know, it's just like, I don't want to talk about people's money. Well, we don't have to anymore. We don't. So this is interesting. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers were the best team in the NFL, at the end of the year easily. Crushed Kansas City. So they have now agreed the terms with Levanti David, the linebacker.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Just made it work. They franchise tag Chris Godwin, slot receiver, great player. They just made it work. And apparently they're in talks now with Shaq Barrett, great player. Tom Brady's now restructuring his deal. They want to add another star. Anybody noticing a trend in not. not just that aggressive teams win.
Starting point is 00:04:07 I've talked about that ad nauseum. They now win immediately. Katie to Golden State, title year one. Kauai to the Raptors, title year one. LeBron A.D., title year one. Tom Brady, Tampa, title year one. Monkey Bad's Dodgers, title year one. You don't even have to wait.
Starting point is 00:04:30 You don't have to speculate. But the time people are talking about expectations, you're bringing home a trophy. And it never used to be that way. At best it was year two. Guys learned the system. But usually there was a process to it. Why? I was thinking about this this morning.
Starting point is 00:04:52 From all of my adult life, bad teams needed stars to quickly fix their problems, mediocre to slightly above mediocre teams went and got stars because they thought it put them in a different class. Now it's changed. Now the great teams are like, let's get greater. Tampa Bay is like, yeah, we dominated. Let's add more. Dodgers kept winning their division title, best roster in baseball.
Starting point is 00:05:20 They're like, no, let's go get the best player in the game. I mean, think about that. Think what the Rams did this year. went 10 and 6 in the toughest division. And if a call got overturned in Buffalo early in the year, they were 11 and 5. They go on the road and win a playoff game. And they're like, we're going to upgrade at quarterback. Jared Goff was 42 and 20 and got to a Super Bowl with Sean McBade.
Starting point is 00:05:46 They're like, not really good enough. We're going to upgrade at quarterback. It was 42 and 20. He went 10 and 6 in the toughest division. Broken hand end of the year. Won a playoff game with the broken hand. Not good enough. Golden State won a title.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Following year, they went 73 games. They losing game seven. And I'm like, you know, that's not good enough. Let's get KD. What? I mean, the fact that Tom Brady's like, no, I want to rework this to get another star. It didn't used to be that way. Like, you were great.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Your job was safe. Your GM, your job was safe. Coach, your job was safe. Uh-uh. now franchises are worth a billion dollars. Owners, they don't want one. They want multiple. So the only thing that guarantees employment for a GM and for a coach is multiple.
Starting point is 00:06:41 You can always say, well, they won a title, but I mean, you know, Gene Chiswick won a title at Auburn. I mean, there's been a lot, you know, some average quarterback. So Brad Johnson won a title in Tampa. But that's why Jimmy Garoppolo, San Francisco. They're a great team. They're like, no, let's upgrade. That's not good enough. Now you get it.
Starting point is 00:07:05 And it's why I kind of roll my eyes at these teams that are like, well, you know, just can't quite fit JJ Watt into our, what are you doing? Well, I mean, New England's like bid and lost on like seven players. What are you doing? Like the best team in football is reworking deals with their quarterback. They had another star. The Dodgers got mokey bets. They won a World Series.
Starting point is 00:07:37 They're like, let's add Trevor Bauer. What? You just had the Cy Young winner? You were already easily the best team in baseball last year. And you have Walker Bueller and Clayton Kirshan, David Price. They're like, no, let's add the best pitcher. Why? Why not? It used to be average to slightly above average.
Starting point is 00:07:55 The bad teams went and got stars. Now the star-driven teams are adding stars. They'll figure out the cap and the problems later. Let's get another. And this leads me, this leads me to the Green Bay Packers. Good God. So they did not franchise tag Aaron Jones. Great running back.
Starting point is 00:08:17 That means Aaron Jones will hit the market. Someone's going to make an offer. I love Aaron Jones. by the way, they couldn't find a way to pay for J.J. Watt. And they're going to lose their center, Corey Lindley, which is amazing because he's like a pro bowler. Like, isn't the thing in football, this is a kind of easy one, you get the right draft picks and then you keep them. So they got Aaron Jones in the fifth round, Corey Lindley in the fifth round. They paid them nothing.
Starting point is 00:08:53 They became great. And now they're like, it's a little tight for our budget. You wonder why Aaron Rogers sometimes gets a little prickly. They've literally, the Packers are doing the opposite now of what wins titles. And they become the Post Office. The Packers are the Post Office. The rest of us now, like the Rams and the aggressive teams, no, they're the post office. You know how the rest of us can send a letter electronically?
Starting point is 00:09:27 It arrives instantly and it's free. Not the Packers. Not the Packers. The Packers write a handwritten letter. It write the handwritten letter and then they lick the envelope. And then they go into the drawer and they get the stamp. And then they get in their sedan and they drive to the post office. Hi, Betsy.
Starting point is 00:09:46 And then they give her the letter or him. And they're like, oh, it's Friday. The mail's closed Sunday. That's what they're doing. Is Green Bay watching teams like the Dodgers and the Warriors? Are they watching what the Buccaneers are doing? Like the world's changed. The great teams now with no needs are adding more.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Dodgers didn't need Trevor Bauer. Tampa Bay doesn't need any more stars. The Rams were winning their division and going 10 and 6, 11 and 5 with Jared Gough. It's not good enough. Golden State didn't need Kevin Durant. I won 73 games without him. The other thing is, I have this feeling about New England. Like, if dad's uptight, the family's uptight.
Starting point is 00:10:37 This is my theory. I started noticing years ago, I'm kind of intense. When I was uptight, everybody's walking on eggshells in the house. So if I was in one of my moods, I just leave the house. So when dad's uptight, Because dad's the big booming voice in the house, off in the tallest person, the biggest person, dad. All the kids are like, ooh, and they get uptight.
Starting point is 00:11:02 And mom's a little uptight. Oh, boy, your father. So I was like, loosen up. Or if you're in a mood, get out of the house. The Packers now are so, their culture is so safe and frugal that progressive Matt LaFleur comes in, the coach, right? Young guy, young guy. what did they do on the last series of the year?
Starting point is 00:11:29 They got super safe and conservative and kicked a field goal. We never thought Matt Lefleur was safe. We don't think Aaron Rod. You're like, go get her guys. These are get her done. And at the end of the season, Matt Lefleur is like, no, I didn't kick a field goal, lick a stamp and take it to the post office and hope. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:11:52 That's the culture of Green Bay. The culture, have you ever been fun guy? You work at an office. Everybody's uptight. And a year later, you feel like, I'm uptight. Dad's uptight, the house is uptight. Boss uptight, the office uptight. Culture uptight.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Coach quarterback become uptight. Green Bay needs to loosen up. Buy some leather pants. Seriously, unbutton your shirt all the way to your navel. You guys need to lighten up. You couldn't pay for J.J. Watt. You're not going to pay for Aaron Jones. Corey Lindley, you're not going to keep.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Are you watching what Tampa's doing? Tampa's like, listen, we're kind of inappropriate. We may get home late. We've had too much to drink. We're going all in on it. We're going to pay for stuff we don't even need. That's winning. That's what's winning in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:12:42 That's what's winning in Tampa. God, we get to Aaron Jones. Just let him go to the market. No, no. Corey Lindley can't afford him. J.J. Watt. It doesn't work for our budget. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:55 It doesn't feel right to me. By the way, my family now is a lot more fun. Uncle Colin now is not as uptight. What do you make of my dad uptight family uptight theory? No, it's very accurate and very reflective of the Packers and the last play of the I mean, what's amazing? Reflected that as well, yeah. Matt LaFleur is around that uptight building and he is now making calls where we're all going.
Starting point is 00:13:21 what are you doing? Well, the energy and the tone comes from the top. And that's how the Packers do business. If I ran the Packers, two rules. No dockers in the building. No dockers? No khaki pants in the building. I'm not going to allow any khaki pants in the building.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Secondly, Wednesday, cocktails for lunch. I was not to say. They may want to mix in like a work happy hour or something. It kind of, you know, not saying you don't need to run a tight ship. How about this? once in a while you've got to relax. New ruling Green Bay. No, Starbucks.
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Starting point is 00:18:41 They've got a huge brand. Dallas Cowboys. I'm not telling you anything that 99% of you don't know. I'm not going to spend Urban Meyer and Trevor Lawrence for the first time of my life, I'll talk Jags football. But by and large, a third of the NFL just doesn't get on the show, unless you have like a star quarterback or there's a controversy. And you know this to be true, and this is the reality of our business.
Starting point is 00:19:02 If I don't get a rating, if join don't get a number, we don't have a show. They're putting up bars. We've got no show, and we're just sad. So we've got to talk about stuff that the majority of people care about. So the Dallas Cowboys are literally every year the number one rating on every network. If they're on the NFL network, it gets the best rating of the year. Fox best rating, NBC best rating, CBS best rating. But when Dak was signing a contract, I thought about this,
Starting point is 00:19:28 driving home yesterday is that if you take out the Dack Prescott contract discussions, Joey and I talked about, if you just took those out, he's a quarterback, it's the Cowboys, Jerry Jones, Dak, we talked about. If you took those conversations out last year, it's the least I've ever talked about the Dallas Cowboys. We talked about that during the season. Very rarely, they just didn't make the lead on Mondays. They just weren't interesting enough.
Starting point is 00:19:55 The head coach is boring, the quarterback, Dak, or Andy, don't have a lot of. a sizz. And I was thinking next year, if you put Dallas's seven best players on a piece of paper, and this morning I was thinking, you know, Zach Martin, Jalen Smith, Amari Cooper, Demarcus Lawrence, Dak, Zique, I think C.D. Lamb's pretty special. That's their seven best players. And I kind of struggled with the seventh. Zeke, by the way, is regressing. Demarcus Lawrence is regressing. and Amari Cooper feels overpaid now. Let's take the best team in the NFC. Tampa Bay, seven best players.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Brady, Mike Evan, Shaq Barrett, JPP, Tristan Worf's, Levante, David, Chris Godwin, and I couldn't stop. Because Devante White made a Pro Bowl, V-to-Via is their highest rate of defensive lineman, Antoine Winfield, Jr., is about as good a rookie safety as I've seen in years. And I'm not done. like Tampa's got like 14 special players. Dallas is a big brand. There's not a lot of special there.
Starting point is 00:21:06 I mean, you asked me this morning, C.D. Lamb has a chance to be really special. He looked really, really good. Offensive line used to be special. It's in rebuild mode. I mean, last year, people forget this. When DAC was healthy, they started the year one and three,
Starting point is 00:21:22 and the win was on a, miracle onside kick recovery against awful Atlanta or their 0 and 4. Well, now you've paid DAC $40 million. I was talking, actually had dinner last night with, I'll just, and an NFL owner. And there's certain things he can't say and can't say. But we were talking about the salary cap and this misinformation by the media that it's just going to explode over the next four years. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:21:51 It's just going to go up gradually. $40 million for DAC is going to be a lot. lot of money for the entire contract. And I don't, and the only way when you don't have a bunch of special players to get special players, pay for them, can't afford it, or crush the draft. That's hard. New England doesn't crush the draft. Cushing the draft and not a lot of people crushing the draft for stars. Jimmy Johnson on the show yesterday talking about this. I think he's a great leader for the team. I think the team really rallies around him. He could make plays with his legs. He could run the football. And he fit into their system. He has had
Starting point is 00:22:32 problems at times being inaccurate. He can win you a championship if he has great players around him. I don't think that can carry a football team if he doesn't have great players around him. And he doesn't. The only way to get him is paying for him. And I looked at Dallas's schedule next year. They face a lot of teams next year with special players. Arizona. Tampa, Kansas City, Chargers, Vikings, Saints, those are on the road. So you start looking at that schedule. There's a lot of teams on that schedule with special players. So again, I can love DAC.
Starting point is 00:23:07 But I was just thinking about this when I drove home. I was just like, they just don't have a lot of special players. It's a great brand, but there's not a lot of sizzle to it. Kansas City's got sizzle. Rams got sizzle. Green Bay's got some sizzle needs more. Buffalo's got sizzle. Tampa's got a ton of sizzle.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Seattle's got some sizzle. There's some sizzling this league. There's like, whoa, whoa, those are great. Arizona's got a couple of guys. You're like, wow, Chandler Jones, DeAndre Hopkins, Kyler Murray. Where's Dallas's? Best player is probably a guard. That's it.
Starting point is 00:23:37 I mean, the Colts last year, Jonathan Taylor, end of the year of the running back, you're like, oh, okay, that's a star. Michael Pittman, oh, it's a star. It's not wrong with having a great guard, Quentin Nelson, but it's just fun. You know, I sat driving home. I'm like, Dallas is just not a topic to me. I mean, if they start out 5 and 0, I'm not going to say I'm not going to cover them,
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Starting point is 00:24:23 Okay. Jack Prescott, a lot of money, more than I like. Your thoughts initially when you saw it. It's the best contract any players ever gotten in NFL history. And I do wonder how it will affect you were talking about Lamar a moment ago. If I'm Lamar or if I'm Josh Allen or dare I say on this show, if I'm Baker Mayfield, the next crop of quarterbacks who are going to get paid, what teams have always been able to hang over the head of those
Starting point is 00:24:58 quarterbacks they want to extend is well you know if you don't take this extension we can always just wait you out and franchise tag you and I think now you've got well Kirk Cousins got franchise tagged and got nothing but guaranteed money he's the 13th best quarterback in football and no quarterback's taken home more cash over the last six years if you include this upcoming season than Kirk so that worked out
Starting point is 00:25:22 Dak Prescott got franchise tagged. He's probably the ninth best quarterback in football, and he's going to make $75 million cash this year and never be able to be franchise tagged again. That was the sneaky important part of the deal. So while I think that the Cowboys had to get it done, I actually think the butterfly effect of this is Jerry Jones, I think put the Ravens, the Bills, and the Browns in a tough spot
Starting point is 00:25:49 if any of those quarterbacks want to bet on themselves like, Dak didn't play hardball because the franchise tag is not as ominous as it once sounded for quarterbacks if Dak can snap his ankle and they get $126 million essentially fully guaranteed. Yeah. So I was saying new rule on the show. You can't ask Aaron Rogers to beat Brady next year when they're not going to keep Aaron Jones, Corey Tinsley, and couldn't land JJ Watt. And here's Brady reworking his deal so they can add another star.
Starting point is 00:26:20 What do you make? I mean, yesterday it's like Chris Godwin. Boom, Levanti, David, boom, Shaq Barrett. We're working on him. It's like, they've got a different bank. What do you make of their off season? So I think you're asking me about the Packers. If we're asking me about the Bucks, I can answer that later, I guess.
Starting point is 00:26:36 The Packers. Let's do the Bucks first. What do you make of their aggressive off season? Okay. The only part of the Bucks off season I don't understand is this. If you could only franchise tag, and you could only franchise tag, either Godwin or Shaq Barrett.
Starting point is 00:26:55 I'm very surprised they didn't prioritize Barrett because Godwin feels like more of a luxury to me. You have Mike Evans, Gronk's going to come back, O.J. Howard's going to come back from injury, Cameron Brayt's already there, Scotty Miller's there, Tyler Johnson, who had like nine catches all year but made that unbelievable catch in the playoff game against the Packers. And then Troy said, you know, I talked to Tom about this kid.
Starting point is 00:27:19 He said just hadn't been able to find passes for him, but they like him, AB might be back. I thought Godwin was more of a luxury, and I thought Shaq Barrett was more of a necessity. Now, I know there is some belief that Shaq Barrett, you know, they're going to get something worked out. But Shaq Barrett's been in this league seven years.
Starting point is 00:27:38 He was undrafted. His first four years in the league, he made a combined $1.9 million bucks. He has two rings and $25 million in career total earnings. That strikes me as the type of player that's going to take the most possible money and he's going to hit the market. So I think it's been a good offseason. The Levanti David contract's great and obviously Brady's helping him with cap flexibility. But Colin, I'm a little surprised that they're opening the door to Shaq Barrett leaving when there are other
Starting point is 00:28:13 major pass rushers. I mean, JPP's 31, Indomacusus, 32. Like I thought they would have tagged Shaq Barrett. So I want to see what happens there. If he signs a long-term deal, then it's an A-plus off-season. If he doesn't, then I do wonder about the Godwin-Barrant decision. It is. And let's go back to the Packers now, because I do think Aaron Rogers can be prickly, but he's got to be looking at this thing in New England, or excuse me, in Tampa, and just going, you want me to beat that. We can't even keep Aaron Jones. And I'm supposed to be, we won't keep my Pro Bowl center. Is there a solution for Green Bay?
Starting point is 00:29:00 Well, I don't know if it's quite a solution. And the one thing I'll say on Aaron Jones is I think it's possible they do keep him. I think the franchise tag number for running backs 11 million bucks, maybe they think they can get him for three years, 27 million with like 18 guaranteed, something like that. So I don't know if he's quite out the door yet, but they certainly opened the door to him leaving. But I heard you saying, Colin, the Packers need to put on, I think you put it some, you said some leather pants and unbutton their shirt down to their navel.
Starting point is 00:29:29 And I don't know if you were being literal or figurative there, but I know a guy they could acquire who I would imagine has some leather pants, and I think very often wears his shirt unbuttoned to the navel. And that's Odell Beckham Jr. You don't want him in Cleveland anymore. No. You got the 28th pick of the draft. You've got Devante Adams.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Odell, this would be what I'm hoping for my friend Odell, the Randy Moss career arc, unbelievable first stop, kind of confusing second stop, and then he finally gets with a superstar quarterback, and he is nails in his third stop. I think Cleveland needs to prioritize their secondary in the draft, and they need to add draft assets to do so, and one other point is the Packers last year spent a first round pick on a guy they hope never, or Aaron Rogers hopes never plays. If they this year spent their first round pick on a guy who's a la Stefan Diggs in Buffalo or D'Andre Hopkins in Arizona could make an instant impact, I think that is the type of move they could make. And I would recommend that
Starting point is 00:30:35 they do make his contract super reasonable, 14 million per each of the next three years. And I think he's available. So I think that's the move that fixes a lot of this for Green Bay. And And what would make Uncle Colin happier than OBJ and Aaron Rogers on the same team? I mean, two of his favorites, all-time players. It would just be beautiful. It would just be great. I do think OBJ with Aaron, a veteran quarterback, would work. I think OBJ, you know, Eli was shot at the end.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Baker's not Aaron. I think Aaron and OBJ, there would be a, you walk into the room and you're like, you know you're playing with a Hall of Fame. I think it works. Finally, Washington doesn't have a quarterback. About five teams, New England doesn't have a, well, Cam quarterback, Chicago doesn't have. Sam Darnold's out there.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Surprise, nobody's called. San Francisco doesn't like Garoppolo. I just love, this is like, I don't, I was trying to think about what my Sam Darnold is. And I couldn't quite pinpoint it. I just love the soft spot Colin has for Sam Darnold. I love that Sam Darnold could end up being in the, CFL and Collins are going to be like, you know, I'm going to tell you guys a guy that you should look out for.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Sammy Darnold. I don't know if you watched him on Saturday, but you love this guy. And I am, here's what I'll say. I think he's been in a brutal spot. I think he has been in a spot where it is almost impossible to succeed. I am very curious if the jets are out enough on him to trade him within the division. Because if any way, you know, he could rehab things. You would think it would be New England. And you're right that a lot of these, there are a lot of openings,
Starting point is 00:32:26 but I don't know a lot of openings where they're going to be patient with a guy. I think New England would be fascinating for him. I also think that the better move for Pittsburgh would have been to just, you know, cut ties with Big Ben. I know it's not what they wanted to do and they didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Take a flyer on Darnold and either you've got your young quarterback or you're, you, you, you, you, and you end up drafting a quarterback the following year. I don't think he's, let me just throw one thing, and I know we're short on time. Let me ask you real quick, if both are available, who do you, who would you rather take a flyer on, Darnold or James? Because I think post-LASIC James is fascinating.
Starting point is 00:33:05 I think James, with his eyes fixed, might actually be, have something there, and he's available without a trade. Like, James, I'm interested in. It's a good, I'd take, Darnold. Maturity with James always, I thought he was a lot. I know. You're not quite there. But I've also said this.
Starting point is 00:33:20 It was hella productive. It's never been a production issue for him. He throws for a zillion yards. He just every other pass is a pick six. That was good. Now, that's a good question. I've very good job today. Kind of grilling me.
Starting point is 00:33:32 I can take it, of course. But I'll rethink my darner positions. You can take it? Who is the owner? Tell America, who was the owner? Spill the beans, Colin. Can't do that. Who is the owner you have dinner?
Starting point is 00:33:43 Can't divulge. The reason owners have dinner with me is they trust me. Very trusted in NFL circles. And you pick up the tab. Dad, I didn't. See you. Nope, didn't even reach for the Amex card. Didn't even make an attempt at it.
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Starting point is 00:37:50 I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too.
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Starting point is 00:38:33 I take first round quarterbacks who are perceived to be going, and I give them a high end. If things go well, here's who they are at their best. And if things don't go well, here's who they are. Now, we all know this is factual that where you land matters. That's not disputable. Josh Allen would not be this good if he had a crappy coaching staff. But Sean McDermott's great. Brian Daibel's a great OC.
Starting point is 00:38:58 They got him, Stefan Diggs. You know, it matters. We all know that. That is not up for dispute. So I'm considering a lot of different things here, where they're drafted, everything. Stylistically, it may not always, I can always, you know, you can't. find the perfect fit, right? But here we go.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Let's play the high-low game. Let's start with Trevor Lawrence high-low game. The high for Trevor Lawrence out of Clemson is Troy Aikman. Looks the part, arm, accurate, nobody disputes the talent.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Day one walks in and you're like, that's what a franchise quarterback looks like. Bumpy for the first couple years until he's surrounded with legitimate talent. But in the About year three, you're like, we got ourselves a Hall of Fame talent. The low end, Andrew Luck, size, mobility, called an all-time talent. But the franchise holds him back.
Starting point is 00:39:59 He gets beat up with a bad O-line for a couple of years. And you're like, you know what? It just, you don't blame him. He doesn't take the hit, but he could just never get maybe the GM, the line, the support, right. high-end low-end Trevor Lawrence is Troy Aitman's career or Andrew Luck at worst. That's pretty good. Zach Wilson, BYU. All right.
Starting point is 00:40:24 The high end is Matt Stafford. Lively armed. Nobody disputes his talent. People talk about his talent. Ten years in the league. But he can't save a bad franchise. He's got a good YouTube. You look up YouTube.
Starting point is 00:40:40 He's got all sorts of plays. and he's slick, got his own kind of style, but he can't save like the Jets at number two. Low ends, Baker Mayfield. Fun to watch. Ceilings a little lower than we thought. Maybe a bit of a reach as a number two draft pick. Certainly watchable.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Even when he struggled, fun to watch, got a flare to him. Zach's got a flare. The high end, though, he goes to the Jets feels like he can't overcome their nonsense. How about Justin Fields? Ohio State. The high end to me is Deshawn Watson. Dude is a playmaker.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Armed feet, he's a playmaker. You can win any game with Justin Fields. It doesn't have the smoothest delivery. It's not the prettiest football, but high school star, college star, and you're not surprised. If the franchise is bad, he can carry him to the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Teammates love him. Total difference maker at quarterback. The low end is Sam Darnold. Super talented. Inconsistent. Sometimes you're like, God, I love him. And then the next series, you're like, he's missing wide open receivers.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Is that, and you think to yourself, that's crazy. But I watched Justin Fields this year against Clemson. I was like, whoa. And then I watched them against Northwestern. I was like, oh. I didn't know week-to-week quite what I was getting. but the high side and the low side, you're talking about a dynamic athlete.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Trey Lance, North Dakota State. I think high low, high is Josh Allen. Total wow factor physically. Like, whoa, a small school. So you're questioning, is he just better than all these average players? A bit of a project. You're not going to have him walk into this league and light everybody up. Could become very dependent on where he lands.
Starting point is 00:42:39 may struggle a little early. But in year three, if he's got the right people, you're going to say to yourself, why didn't we like him more? Why wasn't he the number one fit? Big upside. The low side is Blake Bortles. He kind of looks the part.
Starting point is 00:42:58 There's some athletic ability here. He wins some games. But you're like, he kind of plateaus, and you just kept waiting for Blake to get to the next level. and it's never got to the next level. But there's something there. Athletically, you're not going to dispute that. Blake could move around and make play, so could Josh.
Starting point is 00:43:20 And then Mack Jones, Alabama. The high side is Kirk Cousins. Delivers the ball, not real athletic, does not look like the future of the quarterback position. But coachable, surrounding him with premier players, He can get them to football. You don't feel like in the big games against the best quarterbacks, you kind of feel like you have the second best guy at that position.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Low side is Matt Barkley, USC. Big school, great teammates, really well-liked. Pretty low ceiling. Can't do anything with his feet. Strictly a pocket guy. Overdrafted. Stayes in the league forever because coachable, good in the film room, nice guy, but you just kind of feel like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:44:10 It's the talent around him that kind of did a lot of the work. That's my high-low game. We're 50 days, by the way, until the draft. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.
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