The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 03/10/2021 - HOUR 3 - Cowboys, Bucs

Episode Date: March 10, 2021

Colin discusses the Cowboys going forward, and the Bucs adding more star players while keeping their current stars happyGuests: Gerald McCoy, Dave Wannstedt Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Tankless made simple.com. He's played 10 years in the NFL. 9 in Tampa. He's been a pro bowler for a majority of them. And he'll still play. In fact, Gerald McCoy said not too long ago, Tampa would be, I'd love to go back to Tampa. Isn't that funny now? Everybody wants of playing in Tampa now. Gerald McCoy is joining Oklahoma sooner. Gerald McCoy, it's like it's a recruiting billboard

right there. Makes me want to go live in Northern Oklahoma. So did you, you know, it's funny about this. Levante David, your guy. And he just got,

he just got paid. And you're a pro athlete that roots for other pro athletes. Like that got a big contract. And I asked Michael Vic about an hour ago. I said when you sign that big contract, is there ever any jealous? in the room. Now, Levanti didn't sign that big of a contract, but you got a lot of money in that

Tampa Bay locker room now, Gerald, and some guys aren't going to get theirs, and some guys going to get franchised. Do you worry at all about chemistry issues with that stuff? No, not when you got the right leader, and I believe that Tom proved that he is that. And when you win in anything, and it's a group effort, you grow together, you get closer, and I believe they've really grown into a true family there. So I think everybody's going to be happy for everybody and going to understand the nature of the business. I mean, if you look at what Tom came into,

he came into a team with two R-Pro wire receivers. Neither one of them made the Pro Bowl this year. But I believe that's Tom telling them, hey, this is what we're going to do. Your numbers may decrease, but you will win. And the proof is in the pudding. Tom gave him a formula. And they won.

It worked. So I believe that everybody's just going to stick to their formula. And it's not going to be about one individual. It's going to be about the group. It's going to be about the team. And I believe they'll be just fine. Aren't you a little surprise, though, with all those alphas, it worked so well and so fast. There wasn't even a – I mean, there's no reason to even argue it.

It was by like November, you're like, oh, my. There was never a problem, right? Yeah, it switched really. fast, man. And just from what I've heard from some of my friends there, man, Tom just, after they lost the Kansas City and season, Tom just told everybody, hey, this thing's going to turn around. And we're going to win it. And he just, he made like a declaration like, yeah, we're going to win this thing.

And I believe it's just his experience of knowing what they had, knowing they just had to go back to the drawing board. Everybody needs to take a deep breath, take a break. I mean, they had to buy. I think they had the last week of a bi-week that you could have. And they probably were just worn out, needed a break. You know, everybody came back healthy, and they got on a run. I mean, I truly believe, this is what I believe it was.

I believe that Bruce and Tom, and they figured out what it is that Tom wants to do. And Tom said, hey, if I can do this, which is play action, which is motions, which is established to run, then you'll see a big difference. The defense was fine. You know, the defense was always in a great place. They were great last year. It was top five last year. But once Tom got to establish what it is that he does, when you bring guys in from other teams,

you got to allow them to do what it is that you brought them in to do and not try to change them. And I believe that there was a up and down all year about figuring out a balance. But once they figured it out, they came out at Byweek, it was smoking. Chris Godwin's going to get franchised. Tell me how pro athletes think of the franchise tag. I'll be a lot of tell you that they like it. You know, Chris, he wants to win. Yeah, of course he wants to win, but it's still a business,

and he's worked his whole life to get to this point. He has a Super Bowl. I can almost guarantee you he would love to win another one, but I can almost also guarantee you that he would love to have the finances that have set his family up for years to come, you know, for generations. So I don't think he's hurt by it because he's going to make a lot of money, but I don't believe that most athletes like the franchise tag. They want some stability and the financial portion of that is a big part of it. So Dax signed a lot of money, 40 large a year, last three years. of his contract.

I think he's a good player. I think it's a great contract for a good player. I'd rather pay my homes or, you know, there are certain guys I'm just going to pay, you know, like right now Shaq Barrett, if I had him on my team as a pass rush, or I'd have to pay him a lot of money. Right. What did you make of the DAC contract? That got paid when he was worse.

You know, a lot of people use this term worth. You're worth whatever your franchise says you are. you know if a franchise doesn't pay you then they don't believe you're worth that but some other team some other team may pay you that that got paid when he was worse you know uh that sometimes it's more to just on the grass on game day for a team you know and if you talk to any of those guys in the locker room they'd tell you man they wouldn't want to follow anybody else you know they had all these speculations about rossilson coming in or should they draft the guy or should They, no, this is, that's not the type of league we're in there.

I mean, I was listening to the show before you mentioned what Tampa's doing with loading up and all these other teams. They're loading up, man. I mean, like you said, the Rams, they win and got Matthew Stafford. They went to the Super Bowl with Jared Gaffa. They lost. So they said, you know what, we need to get Matthew Stafford. A franchise quarterback is hard to come by.

Yeah. But a leader is even harder to come by. And I believe that got paid with these words. I'm happy for them. And I love to see great people win, man. think about what Dax been through over the last year. He lost his brother. He was quiet for that whole span.

He had to go through the whole contract talk for all that time, and then he gets franchised. He comes in the season. He's putting up historic numbers, and then he has a horrific injury. And now everybody's like, man, what's going to happen? And then the final day that he can get paid, he gets paid, and he gets historically paid.

I just love to see great people win and he deserves it. You said something really interesting. Gerald McCoy. You said it's not just about what you do on the grass. And my dad told me that one time. My dad said years ago when I was a kid, I remember

this. He said, most employment decisions will be made when you're not in the room. Be a good person. You're going to get hired or fired, and they're going to be raising their hands. You're not going to be in that room. And in your career, does being a quality teammate,

Is it 30% of it, 20% of it? Like how important is it? For me, being a good teammate is about 70%. Wow. Yeah, it's about 70% for me because being a good teammate doesn't just mean you're a friendly guy or you look out for your brother. Being a good teammate means you show up on time.

It means that outside of the building, you're making sure your body's right. So when you come in, what you do doesn't affect me and my family. family at home. When you come in, I know that you go home, I know you're studying. And when you come in, I know I don't have to worry about you when we step across those white lines on Sunday. So being a good teammate isn't always just, oh, I can go sit in a locker and talk to him. Some people are quiet. Now everybody's talkers. Now everybody's a leader. And if you can't be a leader, be the best follower you can be. But let me be able to count on you to do your job in every aspect.

is. Don't be, don't be out here causing trouble. Don't be doing this and doing that. Let you be, when we put this puzzle together, your piece, let it be solid. You know, sometimes you get puzzle pieces. They kind of bend a little bit. You've got to make them fit. No, be the puzzle piece and solid. And that's what being a great teammate is to me. The other 30%, it'll take care of itself. You're doing that. How come you and Levante, David, were so close. Why was he a great teammate to you? Well, me and Levante are brothers. So we hung out a lot of. lot off the field. And I just seen he was special from the jump. And talking to SAC, he and Brooks said that that's what made them special, is that bond they had. And that's what allowed both of them to

flourish. He knew he had a guy behind him that had his back. And Brooks know he had a guy in front of him that had his back. You got to learn each other in that aspect. And I sat down and talked to tell you about that one day. And from that day forward, we just got closer and closer. closer until we became family, man. And he's my youngest son. He's his godfather. So I'm happy he got paid. He's in a great spot, man.

And I understand people love Tom Brady, but I don't believe that defense would have been the same if Tay wasn't there. Me personally. Oh, you're right. That's just the type of leader he is. Yeah. I love having you on the show.

You know, you're always welcome. You can wear your Oklahoma stuff. I'm a USC guy. I'm not offended by it. You almost went to USC, you know. I did. I did almost go to USC. But then you didn't.

I didn't. We could have used a defensive tackle. Yeah, yeah. But I love my school. I always will. It's a great school in the country. Should. Great school.

Absolutely. Gerald McCoy. Good talking to you again, man. I love your thoughts. Hey, I love coming to see my family, man. You know, my distant cousins. You enjoy. I like that.

I like being, I like having. another family. I got a lot of kids. I like having more people in my family. You got extra cousins, though, Colin? We can do now. I do now. Gerald, good seeing you. All right, thanks. Played briefly for Dallas. You know what's great about him? Is that he thinks about stuff. Yes. When you ask Gerald a question. He is not quick to answer. He's just going to take his time and he's going to answer it and he's thought about it before. just the whole way he talks. As he talks, he's always looking over, he's just thinking about stuff.

He's kind of like... It's good to be a thinker. He's a thinker. People are not that fond of thinking anymore. I was going to ask him about the whole bruised apple thing. I got missed on that. We have to show that Michael Vick video also. I don't have time now.

Well, not right now, but I'm saying you teased it all... Listen, this show, this isn't one of these nonsensical bits. We got nothing but three hours info over here. Sometimes I don't even have time for 30 seconds of non-planned material over here. You're talking about this is like... I just want to pay off the audience who teased it a lot. All right. We'll see if we can get to that.

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Disordinary. This is the herd line. It's almost like I'm drunk in the middle of show. So the May Smith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame announced its 14 finalists for this year's class yesterday. I want to hear this. The group consists of nine players, five coaches, including nine first-time finalists,

highlighted by Paul Pierce and Chris Bosch. What's Bill Russell doing on? The final as a coach, he was inducted as a player in 1975. The final class will be revealed on May 16th, so in just a few months. and obviously some great names on there. They're on the finalists for the Hall of Fame. Paul Pierce, Ben Wallace, Chris Weber.

Chris Bosch is a Hall of Fame. Chris Bosch, yes, Michael Cooper, Lauren Jackson, Marion Stanley, Yolanda Griffith, Ben Wallace, Marcus Johnson, Tim Hardaway, Michael Cooper, Rick Adelman. So I like the Hall of Fame. I think that the Basketball Hall of Fame is probably third. on the list because we would go NFL, baseball. They do officials. They do everything. Yeah, well, basketball is just the basketball

Hall of Fame. So it's college, it's everything. It's all of basketball. Whereas NFL, you know, there's a college football of fame, and then the NFL is just the NFL. You could put an agent in the basketball Hall of Fame. I mean, seriously. David Falk? Yeah. So it's just a different, it's just a different approach to

I actually, I like that basketball does it this way. It doesn't feel the same way that the NFL feels. Which is sometimes stupid. Yes, but because at the end of the day, while it's a great prestigious honor to be a Hall of Famer, it's a museum. It's honoring the greatest players to participate or participants in that particular league or sport in the case of basketball Hall of Fame. What I don't like is when it starts to become about the writers and the media that are selecting. Well, the Football Hall of Fame, no player votes in it. So I'm right there. I'm not. I think they do have player voters now.

First of all. But it is mostly media. And then we all know what goes on with the baseball. First of all, didn't, I don't have an answer here. I don't want to catch you off guard. Didn't Ray Guy just get in the punter for Oakland? And for years and years, I'm not sure I'm right on this. If you grew up watching Ray Guy punt for the Raiders, it took him until 2014 to get in.

Yeah. I always remember. Ray Guy was the greatest player in the NFL for 15 years at his position and I'm including quarterbacks Ray Guy there was no second best punter in the league than Ray Guy

and for years it's like he's a punter well it's kind of a system too like you only have a certain amount of guys go in per you know cycle because they have a production and they have they have it has to be it's in Canton Ohio so it's not like you can have

you know too million people come to that town to celebrate the 45 people that you're inducting into the Hall of Fame. You want to give everyone their time to have their speeches. Like there is a bit of a logistic play here as well. I don't get into the Hall of Fame because the logistics.

Listen. I am at the gatekeeper. I am just saying the facts and that is how it goes. Like that's whether it's right or it's wrong, you're right. He should have gotten in sooner. But there are logistics at play there as well. Tom Brady can't get in this year. Why? Your speech doesn't

fit into the teleprompter for the hour it's on a network. It's a whole weekend of events. It's why they expanded it this year because they wanted to include the guys from last year like our Jimmy Johnson who needs his day. Who wants to have his day with his family and his speech and his time. The fact that it took that long for Jimmy is... I agree. I agree. But he's in now and we're very happy for him because he has a Hall of Fame room. So Michigan continues to stand by Jim Harbaugh as their head

football coach. She received the contract extension to stay through 2025. And despite a two and four record in 2020, athletic director award manual is not putting pressure on Harbaugh right away. He said they're willing to be patient and think long term. And they have not given him a minimum win requirement for 2021. So his contract keeps him through 2025. It reduces his base salary to four million in 2021 from slightly over $8 million in 2020. But it allows for him to add up to 3.475 million in bonuses each season. His record at Michigan is 49 and 22. I know Michigan alumni probably don't love this because they feel like they should be winning

national championships and they feel like they are in the same space as an Alabama. His records also, he took over a dumpster fire. So consider he didn't get like Nick Saban Alabama quality. I think Michigan is a fine person. It is. It's very history, and I don't mean fine, like it's fine. I mean, like, it's a fine program. Like, it's a great school.

It has great tradition, wonderful alumni, very proud place and experience. And you should also balance your expectations based off of all of those things that you hold so prestigious. Like it is a, you know, they focus on that academics there. It does make it difficult to win a national championship that way. It's not a city that just lives and dies with one. thing. It's like, so the commitment's there, but in Norman, Oklahoma, there's one game in town. In Ann Arbor,

there's a lot of stuff. It's like Austin, Texas. I've never been to Ann Arbor, so I can't speak to it. It's beautiful. It's a wetter, colder version, Austin, Texas, where there's food and music and festivals, it's different. I just think the expectations need to be a little bit more manageable for Jim Harbaugh. Finally, Patrick Mahomes and his fiance, Brittany, welcomed their daughter, Sterling,

in February, and his alma mater is already ready to put in the work to recruit her. Texas Tech sent Mahomes a daughter, a letter of intent. She's won. For a soccer scholarship just two days after she was born. Oh, okay. She's not one yet. She was just born in February.

So she is, I don't have the exact date of her birth, but February, it's March 10th. So she's maybe a month old. But yeah, they're offering her a soccer scholarship. And this is smart, actually, because his wife, Brittany, went to the University of Texas and played soccer there. So Texas Tech is trying to keep the talents at Patrick's school. Rolled around the crib and they saw some good movement and the cone drill for the baby. And they said that we're going to offer.

I think it's cute. Enjoy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Line News. All right, Dave Wan sat next, the coach. The Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific.

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What's up, fam? This Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defining the odds. like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game.

We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything. he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson,

we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He run up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. It's Ryder Strong and Wilfredel from PodMeets Whirl. And now the Podmeets Twirled podcast. We're two men who were completely clueless to reality TV, who now have covered Dancing with the Stars, traitors, and we're gearing up for the season finale of Survivor. So yeah, now we're experts.

I know we annoyed a lot of our listeners by our severe lack of survivor knowledge. That is the point of the show. I'm just going to remind you. I have watched some Survivor. I obviously haven't watched enough. Did people not like it? Yeah.

Just because we... Yeah. We'll be recapping the big conclusion in the 50th season. From the final attempts at gameplay, to the desperate plea is the finalist to a bunch of... Ha, ooh. Ha ha, ooh. Again, we are experts.

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From navigating friendships and healing to setting boundaries and prioritizing your mental health. These are real honest conversations. We don't always get to have out loud. Totally unreasonable with different parts of life, right? Like, oh, have all three meals and make sure you're mindful during all of them? Absolutely not. During one meal, I'm standing. I'm standing and handing my children food.

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Dave Wanstap, Bears, Dolphins head coach, great storyteller. Jimmy Johnson's friend, Cowboys, Super Bowls, National Titles, joining us live. I've got to ask you a couple questions on this DAC thing. So it's such a big contract. When you were coaching, did a player ever get a huge contract and you felt it changed the room a little bit? just the locker room a little bit? Yeah, I'll give you a quick story, and it relates to Joy, Taylor, when her brother, Jason's contract was up at the Dolphins.

I remember sitting in the room, and Mr. Hisinga, obviously the owner of the Dolphins, a smart businessman, just like Jerry Jones, one of the smartest guys, didn't pretend to know, get into football much, but he understood numbers and he wanted to win. He understood winning. And he got up out of his chair and we, you know, and obviously I was pushing to get Jason signed. And he jumped out of his chair and he looked me in the eye and he said, you give me one good reason why we should pay Jason Taylor this money. And I said, I got one good reason. Do you want to have a chance to win the Super Bowl? And he said, hell yes. And he got up. and slam the door and said pay him.

So, I mean, I think it all starts with that. I mean, if Jerry didn't believe and Mike McCarthy didn't believe and there's pro personnel who, Stephen Jones, if the organization didn't believe that that could be the guy to get him to a Super Bowl and win a Super Bowl, they wouldn't have done it. I mean, we all criticize Jerry for, you know, some of his, whether it's drafting or coaching. But the guy is smart of business, man. We all witnessed that. as there is in the country.

So he knows value, and that doesn't bother me at all. And he's a Jerry guy. Jerry loves, you know, he wants to be on the sidelines. He's in practice. He wants his players coming up and communicating with them. That's just how he runs his organization. And DAC has been his guy from day one. So I think that makes sense.

And I tell you what, morale also. There's something, I use the Jason Taylor example, when we signed Jason to his first big contract, boy, there was a shot in the arm for the whole locker. I think that's what's going to happen with the Cowboys, because Dak has proven he's a leader. The players are going to be excited for him, and it may give them an opportunity to go out there

and get a few free agents to be part of this thing that maybe they wouldn't have if they would have gone another direction. By the way, I was thinking about you the other day. Russell, Wilson, Pete Carroll are struggling, and my takeaway is just get over it. Sometimes not everybody gets along. Did you ever have a player that drove you nuts, but he was great and you just dealt with it? They were all defensive guys.

And we'd forget about it. We'd forget about it the next day. By practice, it was an issue that was over. But no, I'm kind of mystified by this whole Russell Wilson thing. I know it's a hot topic in Chicago. I still do a lot of stuff up there. And, you know, they changed offensive coordinators. They made a change from Brian Chattonhammer.

So, you know, I mean, to me, I thought that that would be, if there was an issue with play call and a philosophy on offense, you would think if you change your offensive coordinator, that that's, from Pete Carroll's standpoint, that that's making a statement, hey, we're going to do some new things and some different things that'll clear up this issue. So whether it happens or not, I think it's very, very a small chance. But I'll tell you what, Chicago would love for it to happen. Yeah. You know, it's interesting. Washington is a lot like football teams, you coached in Chicago and Miami. Great defense, defensive head coach, winning games, got to a playoff, but they need a go-to quarterback.

You got Marioita, Darnold, Deshaun, Garoppel. If you ran, and you never got a good quarterback, you never got the great quarterback. If you were Washington today and there's four or five guys out, which one interests you the most? Well, it depends on who you can get. I think there's something, even though Sam Donald's numbers are not much better than Mitch Trubisky, to be quite honest with you. I know our Chicago listeners don't want to hear that, but it's the fact. I think that Sam, you know, he's a young guy. You know, I mentioned this.

You know, Troy, we were there with Troy. He really blossomed like his third year. You know, Terry Bradshaw, I was in Pittsburgh coaching at the university. Terry, it was like this fourth or fifth year when he really came into his own. So I think Sam Donald may have some upside to him. And boy, if you got him in there and coached them up and had a good supporting cast, he might surprise some people. It's funny how many people Tampa's getting and Dallas pays a bunch of people

and the Rams pay people and the Packers pay nobody. Do you think sometimes not having an owner hurts them, Green Bay? Yes, probably to some degree. Absolutely. I mean, I think when you look at Green Bay, I mean, right now they're looking and saying, you know, we had two, three running backs. We all know the Aaron Jones, but we had Jamal Williams and we had AJ Dylan. We had three running backs in the top 100 rushers in the National Football League. And obviously we know about Aaron Rogers and their defense ended up, what, fourth or fifth in the league in defense. So I think Green Bay right now is feeling pretty good. It's not, you know, To some degree, they laid it off on Mike Petton, the defensive coordinator, and made a change there. But overall, I think they feel pretty good with an upcoming draft and some money to sign some free agents.

So I think they're sitting pretty good and look at that division. I mean, you know, who's the biggest competition? Obviously, it's probably the Vikings. But if you're a Packer fan right now, you're optimistic for the future. Listen, there's a lot of people hitting the market, Dave. We've got about three minutes. that would Kenny Dalladay, Hunter Henry, like good players, really good players are getting released. Did you like free agents or would you rather draft and develop?

Oh, you know, I always believe that the real good free agents, if they were out there, there was a reason. And really, I mean, we got burned on a few guys early in Dallas when we were, you know, trying to get better players. And then we kind of figured out that, you know, Reggie White was a free agent at Green Bay. Brett Farr, obviously, they got him. I mean, but not many of them. I mean, most of those free agents, the team that they're with currently knows a lot more about them, on the field, off the field, whatever it might be, than what you're going to find out about them until you sign them. So go in the draft.

I mean, nowadays, young players are playing at an earlier rate than they have. ever have. If you can get those draft picks and get some good players, there's nothing like going the youth way and building from the ground up. All right. Well, drafts in over a month, Urban Meyer now in Jacksonville. Yeah. We've got a minute left. I think he's going to work. Do you? Oh, absolutely. Did I lose him? I think we lost him. Well, maybe it was a big storm in Naples. I don't know. Naples, Florida's got rough weather.

It looks sunny. He told me during the break, he's got buddies from Pittsburgh and Chicago. He's had been nothing but cigars and golfing for the last few days. I feel like a lot of people have picked up golf over the past year. Apparently, it's surging. I mean, according to... You can be outside. It's exercise.

For a long time, it was one of the only places. I took up golfing. I mean, again, if you have 30 free minutes, you never have to worry about a break in at your home again. Simply save collin.com. Get a free security camera. Also, supplement I take every day, powerful and green. By science, go to MDrive for Men.com. MDrive from N.com, free shipping and a 60-day money-back guarantee.

No, I mean, golf is a total resurgence. Two things have changed golf in my life. Tiger Woods for a while. Like, you watch Tiger and you went and bought clubs. And the pandemic, which is you couldn't go anywhere. And literally, they were closing trails, biking trails, hiking trails. But I started golfing in the summer in Utah. And there's something about that sport.

you can give it up. It's like riding the bicycle. You can give it up for 10 years. If you go out and have three good shots, you fall in love. It's a crazy sport. Like nothing else. Play a crap round for four hours.

Last final two shots are great. You're like, love this game. This is the most fun I've ever had. All right, for joining everybody. Big East basketball is around the corner. Big East basketball, Marquette and Georgia. He's tournaments around the corner. Live in L.A.

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