The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 03/16/2021 - HOUR 1 - Patriots, Newton, Washington
Episode Date: March 16, 2021The Patriots are once again being smart in free agencyCam Newton isn't a bad QBWashington would have been better off with Alex SmithRob Gronkowski was smart to come back to Tampa BayGuest: Peter Schra...ger Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Free agency?
This is like the legal tampering period.
Whatever that means?
It's not legal if it's tampering, whatever.
So now all the stuff's coming out.
New England's spending a lot.
a fortune.
I love it.
You know, it's interesting.
So they always
say this about alcohol and I say it about
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just make people more of what
they are. Sweet people, give them a couple
cocktails or even sweeter.
And money's the same thing. If a guy
is a jerk, give him money's a bigger jerk.
If somebody's giving in philanthropic, you give
money, they're incredibly
charitable. Money and alcohol
just, it
just makes you more of what you are.
So everybody looked at New England.
New England spent $232 million yesterday.
And this morning they went and got Hunter Henry.
He struggles to stay healthy, but he's a very good tight end.
Now a Patriot was with a Chargers.
Very good player.
Top 10 tied in.
And the media reaction is, whoa, this is not New England.
So what has New England been with their money over the last 20 years?
Disciplined.
They don't go get a lot of stars.
they get productive players already in the league that are schematic fits.
And so this morning, everybody's, I can't believe they spent that money.
Actually, all these moves are very New England.
No stars, no divas.
Everybody's a scheme fit.
They're all young and productive.
And there's very little guaranteed money.
As Joey and I have talked about the last couple of days,
300 minutes, less than half of this money will end up going to the players.
That's just the way it works.
Like, you start looking at the money they gave out.
These are reasonable deals to productive B&B plus players who are all young and have ability to stay healthy.
That's what New England does.
Now, they did admit they've also, New England's never had a problem admitting when they miss on stuff.
They do.
They change stuff up all the time.
Bill Belichick admitted this morning and yesterday, I can't, I can't, I can't,
draft tight ends and wide receivers very well, so I'm going to go solve it.
So they got John Hsu Smith yesterday, a terrific tight end in Hunter Henry this morning.
Now they have one of the strongest tight end groups in the NFL.
They moved up in the draft last year to get two tight ends.
Neither comply.
So New England's admitting this is what they do.
They don't give you, they don't have ridiculous contracts.
None of these are ridiculous.
They admit when they're wrong.
They move off stuff all the time.
They're admitting, listen, the tight ends we drafted can't.
They're not the guys.
Let's just go, let's just go pay for them.
And they still have the best coach in football, a top five offensive line, and they'll
have a top five, six defense.
This morning, they feel like a playoff team.
Not a Super Bowl team, but a playoff team.
And if you look at how Cam played last year in the last nine games, if you look at what
quarterbacks do in the second year of a, you know, a new system, they're in a division
with a goofy jets and the, you know, still kind of rebuilding Miami.
The only reason this morning that we think less of New England is because Brady's been so damn successful.
If I would have told you a year and a half ago, the greatest quarterback to ever play the game is going to leave a franchise.
Ooh, how do they do?
Well, they're a game under 500.
How about the next year?
Well, they make the playoffs.
You'd be like, that's not terrible.
I mean, you start looking around when the great quarterbacks leave their franchises, it's not.
Not a pretty picture.
Is Miami ever found the replacement for Dan Marino?
Is Denver, they're still trying to figure out who the next John Elway is.
So the bottom line this morning, Brady's success makes it look like, you know,
the Patriots are worse than they are.
Now, the schedule's not too tough.
The question is, why is Belichick doing this?
And Mike Reese, very good, wrote a very good column this morning.
Now people will say, oh, he just wants to get back at Brady.
Well, that's not.
That's kind of petty.
Well, he realizes his roster's not very good.
Well, no, I think at tight end, he realizes his roster was terrible and he upgraded.
And the other places, he just added good players to order to good units.
But here's the key.
And this is why all these moves are very New England.
Is that Reese points out correctly that because of the pandemic, the cap's coming down.
and most teams are just trying to get under the cap
and New England,
oh, is financially responsible,
has a ton of money.
So there's a bunch of really good players on the market.
You don't have to sign a four-year deals.
Many who can sign a two- and three-year deals.
Give them some guaranteed money,
but a lot of it is incentive-based.
This feels exactly like New England.
No stars, scheme fits, smart contracts,
most of it not guaranteed.
Young players.
I mean, Nelson Aguilar is like, you know, 27 years old.
They got a corner who's 26 years old.
This feels very much like New England.
It's not crazy.
And I think this is funny.
So I said this yesterday to Joy.
The Boston media was just going nuts this week.
It's a camp day.
I tear my case.
It's the worst team in the world.
Okay.
This morning.
If this is how I feel this morning strongly,
the strata's of the NFL.
I feel like there's four teams that are locks to make the playoffs.
Like something seismic would have to go wrong.
Green Bay, Kansas City, Buffalo, Tampa.
You'd have to have like an injury to the star quarterback.
Those are the playoff locks.
We can put them up there for our audience.
The four playoff locks.
Then I think there's two teams that are close to locks.
The Rams and Ravens.
I want to see Matt Stafford in the system first year,
but they feel like a playoff team.
Ravens, tough to vision.
decision. Joe Burroughs getting better.
And then there's three teams, I'd be surprised if they miss the playoffs.
The Colts, the Seahawks, and the Patriots.
Brady and Belichick are both in there.
And I think what you're looking at now with New England is great coach, great O'Line, great defense, now great tight ends.
And they have upgraded their primary weakness skill people by acknowledging we're not great at it.
That's New England.
They've never thought they had all the answers.
They can be arrogant and smug, but they're constantly moving off things.
And what they're basically doing is they built a team in the last 24 hours to fit Cam.
When Cam had the 15-1 season, do you remember his leading receiver?
It was Greg Olson, the tight end.
So what did Belichick do?
He went and got Cam Newton two great tight ends.
And what else did that Carolina team do well?
They ran the football.
What's New England?
Damian Harris, Sony-Michel, good offensive line.
Probably bring back Burkhead.
They'll run the ball.
So Belichick is putting his arms around Cam and saying,
year two, special teams defense, me, that's all good.
Let's build a team around Cam.
He's saying the market didn't offer us anything they liked.
Garoppolo can't stay healthy.
Mariotas is probably due expensive.
Jets won't give us Darnold.
We'd like to do a deal for Deshawn Watson, but what do we got to give?
So I'll go back to it.
I was a proponent of signing Cam, and I look at this morning,
and I think I'd be surprised if they didn't make the playoffs.
All right, let me segue
to the Chicago Bears.
I've never told this story before.
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So I moved to Vegas, about 1986, 87, single, young.
And about a year into it, got a job at a TV station.
So I was making for my age, making pretty good money.
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And you're kind of sorting out who you trust and who you don't.
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I want to introduce you to some of my buddies.
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And after about 90 seconds, I said, that's not a business idea.
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And I said to him, that's a discussion I don't even want to be in.
One, because I don't want to be part of a pyramid scheme and go to prison.
and two, if I hear you're discussing it, I'm going to think less of you and you're the one guy I like.
So I don't want to hear you talk about it and I'll think less of you.
And then if I get asked years later about it, I want to be culpable.
Hey, I want deniability.
I got no idea what I don't even want to be.
Sometimes you just don't want to be in discussions.
I want deniability.
I'll think less of you and I don't want to go to prison.
So I said, I'm out.
I'm not going to lunch.
I don't even want to be part of the discussion.
There's my story.
You got to be careful about the discussions you allow yourself to be in.
The Chicago Bears got in the Russell Wilson discussion over the last week.
They did not refute those rumors.
Well, it came from Russell's side.
They did not refute the rumors.
The problem with that is this morning, the Bears have interest in Andy Dalton.
Okay.
Being involved in the Russell Wilson discussion.
and then settling for Andy Dalton is promising your kids a two-week vacation in Hawaii
and settling for a weekend at a state park.
This isn't good.
It feels like a big dud to a fan base that's worn out.
I like Andy Dalton as a backup.
I've said before, I think he's the best backup in the league potentially.
And I do think in Cincinnati and Dallas, if you give him a bunch of good skill people,
you can win games with him.
But Chicago's not that fit.
Chicago needs a playmaker at quarterback.
That's why Trubisky actually won some games.
He's a little bit of a playmaker with his feet.
They got one legit wide receiver, a decent young tied end.
I like Tarek Cohen a running back.
O-Line's okay, but this is not a fit for Andy Dalton.
And increasingly, Ryan Pace, the general manager, I don't trust.
I didn't like the Trubisky move.
This is a ridiculous move.
It's a bad fit.
And you cannot get involved in Russell Wilson discussions
and just let them go and probably feed them and not deny them and end up with Andy Dalton.
Because if Andy Dalton with this offensive skill group is your quarterback, in just the NFC North,
start in second place and work your way down.
Thank God Detroit's in that division or you'd finish potentially fourth.
Sometimes you just have to step away from discussions.
Give yourself deniability.
Don't set yourself up.
to disappoint people, but don't get involved in the Russell Wilson stuff, and then come out with that.
All right.
One team, I didn't like what one team did yesterday at all, spent a lot of money, and I have big questions about it.
And another team, it just continues to leave me scratching my head in free agency.
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You know, it's funny.
Somebody came up to me the other day.
They said, you like Cam Newton suddenly.
I said, no, I've always been consistent.
When everybody thought Cam Newton was a $50 stock, I said, no, he's about a $30 stock.
Now everybody thinks he's a $10 stock, and I'm like, no, he's actually a $30 stock.
I thought for years he was wildly overrated because you and the media said he's a top five quarterback.
I was like, no, he's not.
No, he's not.
But now everybody's got him being a bum.
No, he's not.
He played real good down the stretch last year with no wide receivers.
I've been consistent with Cam Newton.
He's a $30 stock.
You guys had him at 60 and 70 and now you got him at 8.
He's neither.
You can win a lot of games with Cam Newton if you build a team around him, heavy tight-end use, good running game.
you know, you're not going to, he's not Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen is a thrower,
but you can win a lot of games with Cam Newton.
I think I've been consistent.
I never butt into the height, but I don't buy into the floor.
And I think New England today is a playoff team with Cam Newton.
Most of these teams I get a set, like yesterday the Chargers went out and got
Lindley, the center from Green Bay.
That was a good move.
And I knew they were going to go out and go all line.
Not a shock.
They went and got a stealer too.
like Cleveland by the way went and got a John Johnson good safety good move for Cleveland
they needed that now with Grant Delpit from LSU the rookie got hurt like Cleveland needed to get
better in the back end I kind of thought that would happen they did nice move by Cleveland
chargers needed to get better in the O line they got a great center but there are teams that I
just can't figure out and I don't get Washington so they signed Ryan Fitzpatrick to a one
year $10 million deal I would have never never
guessed it. A mistake prone gunslinger. He's cool. He's got a great aura. But last year,
13 touchdowns, eight picks. So I would have stayed with Alex Smith just for his leadership,
or I would have gone after Sam Darnold because of his athleticism and youth. And I think
you could sell both of those qualities to the locker room. Hey, we're bringing Alex back.
We may draft a quarterback, but Alex's a leader. We went five and one with him. He didn't play
great, but I think you can sell that to the locker room.
Or you say, listen, Sam Darnold's 23, really athletic and dynamic, we think he takes
us to the Promise Land.
I think you can sell that.
I think Fitzmagic is a hard sell to a locker room.
I mean, he's only once played more than six games, like he's never healthy.
And he does a lot of interceptions, and he's fun, and he's cool, and he went to Harvard,
and he wears cool bowling shirts.
Like all that, yes, yes, yes, yes.
But even in Miami last year, they benched him.
Even in Miami last year, 13 TDs, eight picks.
So I can't quite figure out, maybe it's this.
And it's funny about standards.
New England's 7 and 9, and they totally change their offense.
Washington, 7 and 9, and we'll go with Fitzmagic.
Is Ron Rivera simply saying this division so bad, I can win it with Ron,
I can win it with Ryan Fitzpatrick?
I don't think Bill Belichick in a division with Josh Allen
thought he could win the division against Sean McDermott
and Josh Allen unless he made major upgrades
like tight end wide receiver.
I think Rivera looks at his division and thinks I can win this thing with Fitzmagic.
That feels like settling to me because Ryan's probably third to fourth
best quarterback in every division in football not named the NFCE.
So generally, I just think it's a hard sell to a locker room.
I think, hey, he's a 38-year-old guy, fun, but there's a playoff team last year.
I think you could sell Alex Smith leadership.
I think you could sell Sam Darnel.
You could sell Marcus Mariotta a little bit, who is talented.
I don't know what they're doing because I actually like their personnel, joy with the news.
No, no, no, no.
Turn on the news.
This is the herd line news.
I don't know what the Seahawks are doing.
They could decide to trade Russell Wilson this offseason.
And if they do, Pete Carroll has his eye on a potential replacement.
He was reportedly very high on Sam Darnold and could look to make a trade with the Jets if Wilson is no longer with the Seahawks.
Because obviously the Jets are not on Russell Wilson's list of teams.
He's the Saints, the Bears, and the Raiders left because obviously the Cowboys signed Dak Prescott.
So a source told the New York Daily News, keep an eye on Seattle for Darnold.
Now, didn't we say that last week?
We did.
We also said that the Seattle Seahawks are out of their minds.
Yeah, we did.
But in December, Pete went on and on about Sam Darnold, big throws, big talent.
So you may have a third team involved.
It may not be the Jets and the Seahawks.
Well, Mussel Wilson has a no trade clause.
So we're not talking about a direct trade.
trade to the Jets for Sam Darnold, Wilson would have already been traded and then they would
make another trade for Sam Darnold to replace Russell Wilson. And this is no shade to Sam
Donald, obviously. I think Sam Darnold still has a lot of potential and it ends up in the right
place. But I think it's, you can comfortably say Sam Donald is not as good as Russell Wilson.
Yeah. I don't, I mean, this is what I don't understand. What is so difficult about Russell
Wilson that we have reached a place where we're having a conversation about Sam Donald coming in
to replace Russell Wilson for the Seattle Seattle Cots.
I think a lot of it is when Earl Thomas got chatty, Pete got rid of him.
When Richard Sherman got loud, Pete got rid of him.
Pete doesn't like a disruption of the locker room.
And when Russell calls out the O-Line and some of the coaching, Pete's like, listen, you're not
on board.
And we don't have to be best friends, but you're not on board with our vision.
And I do believe, and I've talked to Greg CoSell and others about this.
I think Pete Carroll believes that Russell Wilson runs himself into a lot of those sacks,
and some of the issues with the offense are Russell.
I would say Russell, in my opinion, is more the life preserver to a prehistoric scheme in the last couple years.
But I think when you, it's one thing if Pete and Russell didn't see I die.
Once it goes public, there's going to be players in that locker room that buy into Russell Wilson's argument.
and Pete's saying, I can lose a quarterback.
I cannot lose my locker room.
And if Russell's out on our vision, I've lost my locker room.
I think that's his sell.
You could also lose the fan base because you could trade Russell Wilson away and bring in Sam
Donald and be terrible for the next 10 years.
That's also an option, totally on the board.
Sure.
Options.
That's one of them.
Here's what I don't understand.
I get everything that you're saying.
But at the end of the day, talents surpasses.
passes all of that stuff.
It does.
Especially at the quarterback position.
If you're talking about a linebacker, if you're talking about a defensive end,
if you're talking about a running back or a wide receiver,
we're talking about the, not just a, not just a quarterback.
We're talking about a future Hall of Famer who has won a Super Bowl.
He'd be a hall ofamer today.
Get over it.
I know, yeah.
Well, it is, you know, I've seen this my whole career,
is that certain companies and coaches,
are comfortable with a little pushback.
Bruce Ariens is very confrontational.
Sure.
He was just him and Brady and he was really comfortable.
Pete may not be one of those guys.
Aaron Rogers, by the way, is not confrontational.
Tom Brady is.
He yells at teammates.
Peyton Manning yelled at teammates.
Troy Aikman, yell at teammates.
So this could be just a Pete's not comfortable.
It goes public.
I'm going to lose my locker room.
I'd rather lose you.
Hey, I rebuilt USC.
I rebuilt the Seahawks.
I'm a rebuild guy, and I can do it with Darwin.
In Pete's world, everywhere I've gone, I keep rebuilding all these things.
But in this world, where reality exists, Pete Carroll doesn't play quarterback.
That is true.
So James Winston is officially returning to the Saints.
He agreed to a one-year deal worth up to $12.5 million with incentives.
He'll be in line to be the starting quarterback following Drew Breese's retirement.
Obviously, Tassum Hill is there as well, also competing for the job.
He had a career high in passing yards and touchdowns in 2019 his last full season with the Buccaneers,
but he also had career high interceptions with 30, so 33 touchdowns, 30 interceptions.
He did throw for over 5,000 yards and have a 60.7 completion percentage.
I see James Winston as the starter.
It feels like that to me.
Day one.
I understand there's a lot of people who are very high on Taysam Hill.
Maybe I can't see it because I see him more as a gadget player and not an ever.
every down starting quarterback.
This is one of those rare situations where I do think a
quarterback battle is worthy of discussing
because you do have them both under contract now
and James has been in the system for a year.
Obviously you pay Tays and a significant amount of money.
Most of the time when you have a quarterback competition,
it's just because you did a terrible job managing that position
and now you have to figure out who is better out of
whatever mediocre quarterback you have on your squad.
However, Drew Brie's just retired.
It's very difficult to replace a legend.
It's very rare that you run into a situation like Green Bay,
where you have Aaron Rogers waiting in the wings.
So I'm looking forward to seeing what happens during camp.
But, you know, the Saints are one of those teams that I will put a little bit of faith into
because they do have a lot of talent still.
They have a great defense, and I trust Sean Payton.
Yeah, that's it.
I think he'll get the best out of James.
Whatever James has left, you'll see the best version of him,
and that, to me, feels nine and seven-ish.
So the Chiefs are starting to piece together a new offensive line.
They made some aggressive moves this off season.
Their first big one is signing former Patriots Guard Joe Tuny.
He agreed to a five-year, $80 million deal with Kansas City.
Patrick Mahomes was very happy.
He tweeted some smiling emojis in response to the report.
Tunis great.
He started every game of his career.
Every snap, 2016, 2018, and 99 and 97% of snaps in 2019, 2020.
So very reliable.
And who's a number 10 guard in the entire league last season, according to pro football
focus.
Yeah, I mean, listen, it's a lot of money for a guard.
He's not a one or two guard in the league.
But they have an issue.
They have both tackles gone.
And then their center and another guard are free agents.
My guess is they'll rework those deals and get them in.
But let's be serious.
This is not great for Mahalms to be totally rebuilding the O line in,
I don't, I don't, look, Tune's a good player.
That's a lot of money for Joe Tune.
Bill Belichick, who's smart guys, like, I'm not paying that for Joe Tuni, and I'm happy for Joe Tune.
But it's going to be really interesting to watch the Chiefs because they are rebuilding the O line with the best quarterback talent in the league.
And Aaron Rogers has never really had to have Brady and Rogers never had to have their offensive line totally rebuilt in their prime.
So, listen, Brett Veach is really smart.
So is Andy Reed, and this is becoming more of a three-step drop league where you can just get the ball out fast.
But it's no good to have to replace both tackles who were solid in the draft.
So they're either going to have to rework deals with the current guys they have,
or it's going to be a little bit of a mishmash for at least a year.
Well, we all watch the Super Bowl.
Yeah.
And Patrick Mahomes played in that Super Bowl, which is why he's excited about this signing.
You probably are overpaying for him in a matter of speaking.
But he's a free agent and he's great.
So that's kind of how the free agency goes.
You're going to pay more for a player like that.
But I'm with you.
A total rebuild is kind of scary.
And I would hate to see them kind of go the Seattle route
where they're like relying on Patrick Mahomes' athleticism
and ability while they try and rework that.
Now, I don't think it'll get that bad, obviously,
but it's concerning and they're going to have to be aggressive
more than just this move.
Yeah, good stuff, Joy, with the news.
Well, that's the news.
And thanks for stopping.
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I got to tell you this, you know, when I was growing up doing this younger, the NBA was always the transaction league.
The NFL has blown by it.
It is now the transaction league.
Even the Patriots spend money.
So let's talk about the free agency for New England.
One of the things they clearly upgraded was tight end.
Your thoughts on that?
Yeah, first of all, Colin, I remember covering the league when free agencies
have to visit the teams before they sign.
That is a thing in the past.
Now you just sign before we've been meeting the guy.
This is a huge deal.
Hunter Henry and John Hussmith might be two of the best tight ends in football,
two of the best young tight ends.
The Patriots go and break the bank on both them.
Here's a stat I just got.
I'm looking at my phone because it's,
These two have combined for 25 end zone targets in the last two seasons.
The Patriots have thrown to their tight ends in the end zone just three times over the past two years.
So you think about the height and the width and the length of these guys and their natural ability and their ages.
They're going back to a two tight end system.
And everyone automatically thinks of Grunk and Aaron Hernandez.
But remember, there was Ben Watson and Patrick Graham for a while that they would go to.
This is what the Patriots bread and butter was.
The two tight-end system where they can both crush you from the inside and the outside.
Both these guys can block.
And if they stay healthy, it's smart.
I spoke to a source who said, the Patriots put all the wide receivers and tight ends and free agency in one board.
And they called it pass catchers.
So it's not like, we need this wide receiver and this time.
They said pass catchers.
And John Hussmith was on the top of that list.
And Hunter Henry was high as well.
Patriots are zinging when everyone else is zagging.
I respect the heck out of it.
They looked at their 7-19 last year.
Belichick saw they had money to spend, unlike other years.
And in the past, the Patriots would sit back, smoke a cigar, and laugh when everyone would
spend crazy money on players that they let go, their free agents.
And then they would get these compensatory picks in the draft on the back end.
They would get a third or a fourth round pick.
And they'd say, oh, that's because this guy left and signed for crazy money with the dolphins
or the Jaguars.
We don't do that.
They were honest with themselves.
They were brutally honest with themselves.
They said, while the rest of the league is trying to be fiscally.
sound and efficient because the salary caps down.
This is the one here. We have a ton of money.
We don't have a ton of talent.
Let's go and acquire it. And whether you think
John Hussmith and Hunter Henry make a big deal or a big change,
Belichick knows what he's doing and he knows what his roster needs.
He's not sitting around. I respect it.
Aggressive.
You know, a team that is not historically had a great deal of fiscal discipline is the Jets.
So it's interesting.
Carl Lawson doesn't get a lot of sacks, but he does get pressures.
The analytic guys do like him.
Now he's the highest paid jet.
So they're paying him like a star.
Then they bring in Corey Davis, who's so talented, but they pay him like a star, and he's wildly inconsistent.
I could certainly make the argument.
These are the opposite of New England moves.
They pay a ton of money, star money for guys who have kind of been inconsistent.
But is there a greater message in what they're doing here?
There is. So two years ago, they broke the bank on Levion Bell and Breshaad Perryman and they, you know, Anthony Barr's coming and then Anthony Barr at the last second is like, what am I doing going with the Jets? I'm going to be a Viking where I belong. And it was embarrassing. And I think two years later we can say the Leveon Bell thing was a disaster.
Prasad Perryman's a free agent again.
And there's countless other players that you can point to that the Jets swung and missed on.
What other?
There was all those offensive linemen from two years ago in the summer that they brought in.
I spoke with a jet source before a free agency.
And I'm not kidding, Colin, what this source told me was,
we want players who eat, breathe, and crap football.
Sorry for that detail at 9 a.m. on the West Coast.
Crap football.
And guess what?
Corey Davis, from everyone I talked to with the Titans,
that guy eats, breeds, craps football, loves football.
These are guys who love the game.
Now, you can't win just on culture and just on character.
These guys have to play.
But remember, at a college, Corey Davis was a top five pick.
Not a top five wide receiver.
He went fifth overall to the Tennessee Titans.
They think he's going to be fantastic.
Obviously, they view him that way.
They're paying them.
You go to Lawson.
That is a good sound move.
That guy just rushes the passer and can get to the quarterback.
He didn't have all the sack numbers.
But if you watch, he can.
And then the sneaky one they did, Jared Davis, who's a linebacker who's going to make about $6 million next year, was the 21st overall pick in the draft in 2017, drafted by the Lions.
It was kind of lost in what Matt Patricia was doing.
Love's football was a captain at Florida.
They believe that he can be the voice of a defense as a young player.
I don't think the jets are done.
I think they're getting speed today in the next couple hours.
You might see some signings either at wide receiver or corner, but speed is their key.
but from Joe Douglas to Sala to the owner,
they want players who love football and want to be New York Jets
because Robert Sala signed on to be the Jets coach
because he wanted to be a New York Jet.
That is the message.
Who wants to be a jet and who's going to be about football first
and everything else second?
And a couple of those wide receivers that they didn't sign,
I think he could point to that as one of the reasons
why they went with Corey Davis as opposed to those players.
Yeah, I don't know.
I just don't love it.
Wide receivers, actually, there's a bunch still available.
So, I mean, is, what is that telling us?
There's some really good players out there.
Mark it.
This is interesting, right?
So Kenny Galladay, everyone was doing flips over.
What's Kenny Gallaudet worth?
He's 28 years old.
He's had injuries.
And if the Detroit Lions, who have a giant void at wide receiver, are letting him walk out
the door and he's this wonderful number one wide receiver, what does that tell you?
Is there a red flag there?
Teams are a little gun shy on Kenny Gallaudet right now.
I'm not sure he gets the money.
Everyone expected he was going to get before.
this thing. Juju Smith-Schuster. We laugh about the TikTok and all the extracurricular stuff.
Well, I can tell you that maybe it does come into play. And it's nothing about a criminal
background or anything that he's done nefariously. It's about whether I'm going to pay this
player number one wide receiver money, despite the fact that maybe he's not a number one wide
receiver. So there's this weird upper class of the wide receiver position. And Curtis Samuel is
included where I think we typically think, all right, wide receiver, well, you just pay him the big
money. The draft is loaded with wide receiver talent this year and there's a really good second
tier of free agents. And that's the Corey Davis is who you saw got signed. I think T.Y. Hilton,
AJ Green, players that teams know can come in and be professionals, they might not want to
break the bank in a year where everyone's salary cap is way down and they've got to be fiscally
efficient on guys like a juju or Kenny Gallauda, which still might have some question marks and
we're not sure their number one wide receivers yet. You know, Shregg's, my guess was,
is that Indomac and Sue would not be retained because the Bucks have a end of the first round
pick and there's some good interior linemen down there, but that they'd kind of make it,
they'd kind of figure out a way to make it work and it does look like they're keeping
the band back together, right?
Yeah, look, Bruce Ariens had a few pops in them at the parade and he's like,
this guy's coming back and this guy's coming back and this guy's coming back and we kind
of like, all right, it's nice two days after the Super Bowl.
Let's see if all those guys are coming back.
I could tell you they had a plan and it's crazy.
They had a PowerPoint, basically.
And it's Jason Light and Mikey Greenberg, who is a salary cap guru, and Jason likes the GM.
It was like, priority one, let's figure out a way to bring Godwin and Barrett back somehow.
They got them both back.
Godwin on the franchise.
Barrett on a deal yesterday.
Somehow get Levante David to not even hit free agency and come back.
They got him.
And now it's, it's Gronk, got him.
The next two names, Indomicon Sue and Ryan suck up the kicker.
For years, they've had kicker woes in Tampa Bay.
going back to Roberto Aguayo being traded up for and drafted in the second round.
But with Indomacan Su, I don't know the market for Sue.
They really want them back.
It's interesting.
He's got twins on the way, his first kids, and he's negotiating the contract himself.
So it was the first time he's going at it where he's like, I'm going to handle this myself.
I'm not paying an agent.
And the team has already said that he's a priority.
I'm curious to see how these negotiations go because Indomacan Su has always been the type of player
that has made big money and has been very savvy with his contracts.
I'm curious to see if he's going to try to get them for every last dime or if he's willing to come back for a little bit less to go back to where he was a champion.
Good stuff. Peter Schrager, Fox Sports NFL reporter, all these good stories. Good to seeing you, Shregs.
Love seeing you, Colin. Thanks so much.
All right. Yeah, I didn't love what the Jets did.
Corey Davis to me is, it feels like a Jets move. It's a lot of talent. They paid him a lot.
But the kid they drafted last year out of Baylor, he got hurt. So I got two talented guys who,
aren't consistently there or perform. I don't love it. Shack Lawson's talented it, but now you made him
the highest paid jet. So I'm not a huge fan of bringing somebody in and making them the highest
paid person on the team. I don't love that. Now, I do think New England got trapped and just
acknowledged we're lousy at tight end. We've got to get great at tight end because that's really
what Cam works well. He worked well with Greg Olson. So like New England,
England's moves, to me, feel very New England.
They didn't get a lot of stars.
They got value.
A lot of the money will not be paid.
Everybody's a scheme fit.
And they addressed the one area where they did pay money was tied in.
We're lousy at it.
We got to pay money at it.
The Jets, they keep throwing money at wide receiver and none of it clicks.
And Shaq Lawson, I could stomach.
But, you know, Shaq Lawson, I can stomach.
You know, what, Carl Lawson, what happens basically, everybody becomes themselves with money.
Money and alcohol.
You're just more of yourself.
And I think the Jets have some money and they just go, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they.
That's who Belichick is.
Belichick went and paid for production.
And in the end, uh, uh, the Jets paid for hope.
We hope Lawson can now get sacks.
He gets hurries, but sacks.
Corey Davis now, we, we're hoping he can be.
As good at, I want production.
And at some point, I'm over-hoping you land and deliver.
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Oh, Wes Welker.
he bounced around after that.
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I also think it's interesting.
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