The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 03/22/2021 - HOUR 1 - Lakers, Giants, Patriots

Episode Date: March 22, 2021

The Lakers need a third star because of injuries to LeBron and ADQB Daniel Jones needs to get the Giants to the playoffs this season or elseThe Patriots might move up in the draft to get a QBJon Gruden's contract is looking like a problemGuest: Albert Breer Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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heard. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. It's a Monday. It is great to have you in live in Los Angeles. This is the hurt. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio and FS1, one hour from now, and a good one. Colin was right. Colin was wrong. I was a lot of both over the weekend with the college basketball tournament. Gonzaga plays tonight. They look like the best team easily in the tournament. Everybody else is a coin flip. Underdogs have had a great tournament. That's mostly because everybody in college basketball now is smush to the middle, and everybody kind of is the same with one exception Gonzaga, who drops 95 a night.

They play tonight. I think they'll move on to the Sweet 16. Joy Taylor is joining us. How are you, Joy? I'm good. I didn't expect for everyone's brackets to be busted so quickly. Got right after it. I mean, it's like the opposite of the NFL where we feel like we know seven or eight really good teams. Everybody in college basketball is just smush to the middle. Most of your NBA guys, they last one year in the sport. They're off. So let's start with this.

You got to own your stuff. When Brooklyn went and got James Harden added to Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving. We all know that James Hardin, we're not really sure what kind of postseason player he is. Boy, he's a great regular season player. He's healthy, gives you 80 games. He plays his butt off. he gives you 35. He was an insurance policy because your big money is on KD and Karee, right? That's your, you're betting on them. So you bring James Harden in knowing that KD is brittle,

shockery's hurt again, and Kyrie, you never know what night he shows up and what doesn't. We've seen that this year. So James Hardin is an insurance policy. Everybody thinks, oh, you're stacking the deck. But when you invest in KD and Kyrie, you just want to make sure if they're hurt, you get to the playoffs. And James Harden, I mean, at Houston now without Hardin. They're a mess. Hardin is so gifted, he'll get you to the playoffs. He may not do anything there, but he'll get you there, and then Katie and Kyrie are healthy. That's the reality. Brooklyn owned it. Katie gets hurt. Kyrie's not trustable. Hardin will get us to where we need to go, and then hopefully the bands back together for the playoffs.

This is now the Lakers' new reality. I don't think it's a coincidence. LeBron went 17 years with no injuries. Now he suffered his second and three years. And 80s always. hurt. And based on last year, what looks like the Lakers' recipe for success in championships is AD and LeBron get a bunch of time off, show up to the playoffs, and they're great. Now, you'd rather it not be for a calf injury like AD, but he's out for another three weeks. It'll be over two months. Kind of a semi-blessing. It's not a career-threatening injury. LeBron, you wish it wasn't a high ankle sprain, but he'll be out for a month or more. He'll be rested. I mean, remember, LeBron didn't want to pull.

play in the All-Star game. He wanted rest. He's like, this condensed schedule is too much. He knew what was happening. He's like, my body needs rest. He didn't want to be in the All-Star game, you know, but he's a good sport. So the reality is the Lakers need a third star. It's not stacking the deck. This is why I've been a big proponent of Bradley Beale. I don't know if Bradley Beal would be a great playoff player. I know Hardin isn't. I don't know if Bradley Beal would, but he's a great regular season guy. Bradley Beal gives you 80 games a year. See, a bring Bradley Beal in, and if an AD whose brittle gets hurt and LeBron is aging, you got Bradley Beal in there to drop 40 a night, keep your relevant, keep you as a top four or five seed in the

West, and then when AD and LeBron come back for the playoffs, you're ready to win a championship. That is the reality when you have an AD or a KD. They're not built for 82 games. It's okay. Big Ben last year wasn't very good when they asked him to throw 60 times. It's much better when they asked him to throw 24. Lamar Jackson's probably better when you ask him to throw 29. And they're wrong with that.

There's certain running backs. They're not built to take a beating. Some running backs are smaller, more slight. They're not built to two 37 carries like Derek Henry, who's like a refrigerator rolling downhill or Adrian Peterson who just can play forever. Not every running back's like that. So I think when you get an AD or a KD and you know they're brittle, and then you have a LeBron who's aging and a Kyrie who can be a little

inconsistent. The Hardin and the Bradley Beals are, it's okay. You see this with baseball teams all the time where they have a couple of really good starters, but they got a lot of innings in them, and they're good postseason pitchers. And they, about July or early August, you know, they put them on like the DL, 15 day, 20 day DL, saved their arms. They got a little tendonitis. We know they're great for the playoffs. It's not a career threatening injury. Let's put them on the shelf. Let's get them rested for September and October. And so I do think the Lakers need to go after a third star. Listen, Brooklyn just owned it.

I mean, Brooklyn's not stupid. They're like, listen, Katie gets hurt. Kyrie, I don't know. Hardin will get us to the playoffs. Hopefully they all then can join and you have a great run. And I do think you have to be honest about it. Remember, is once the lake, all the Lakers need to do is get into the playoffs. Because it's strange after all these years.

But nobody in the West really, Utah doesn't, Denver doesn't. Portland doesn't. Phoenix, none of them really have a LeBron defender on the wing. It's kind of the weakness of the team. And so all you got to do for the Lakers is get into the playoffs. You know, you can either be an eight seed and beat Utah the first week of the playoffs or be a two or three seed and beat Utah in the fourth week of the playoffs. But I don't think it's the end of the road for the Lakers.

I think in a weird way, this is their recipe. Give AD two and a half months off in the regular season. And LeBron wanted time off. You wish it wasn't a high ankle sprain, but I don't think it hurts or dims their playoff chances at all. In a weird way, it's kind of LeBron out for six weeks, kind of the best way to get his best game come May and June. All right, so I saw this story.

I thought the best free agent on the market was Kenny Gulladay. He's a wide receiver. He struggled sometimes with health, but he's a great, great talent. And the New York Giants went and got him. I don't know what it is with New York. For the last few years, they spent a lot of money on free agent-wide receivers. And free agent-wide receivers are kind of hit and miss. Golden Tate wasn't worth the money.

Terrell Williams, Raiders, wasn't worth the money. Some guys have been worth the money. But I will say this. The Giants didn't do this just for Kenny Galday. They did this for Daniel Jones. They put Daniel Jones on the clock because the era of patience is over for quarterbacks in the NFL. And Daniel Jones last year had 11 touchdowns in 14 games. they have loaded this offense up.

Sequin Barclay, a top three back, is returning. They went and got Kyle Rudolph, a very good veteran tight end with Evan Ingram. Now you got two of the top ten tight ends in football. Now they've got Kenny Galladay a number one, and he is a number one. You have Darius Slayton, one of the fastest guys in the league as an over-the-top receiver. You have Sterling Shepard, one of the best slot receivers. Don't be surprised if they don't shore up the offensive line again this year. This is about Daniel Jones.

giving him until Thanksgiving. That's all this is about. And by the way, Tom Brady was 43 with no OTAs, a new playbook, a new coach, no preseason, no camp, no anything, and won a Super Bowl. Now, I'm not saying Daniel Jones has to win a Super Bowl, but you got the same coach, you got the weakest division, you've got the same playbook, you've got Jason Garrett, who's a way above average offensive coordinator. Daniel Jones has to make the playoffs. That's how I I looked this morning at the New York Giants. If not, you got the wrong quarterback. This is what Cleveland did.

If Baker Mayfield didn't make the playoffs this year, they would not be giving him a contract extension. It would be over in Cleveland. They went and got him two great tackles. They went and got him two great backs. Austin Hooper, David and Joku at tight end, OBJ and Jarvis Landry. The Browns were basically saying,

Kevin Stefanski and his crew came in and basically said, we got to figure out if Baker Mayfield can play. So we're going to load the offense up, not really spend a ton of money on the back end of the defense, which cost them eventually, and we'll find out if Baker can play. And Baker did get them to the postseason. So what does that mean? That means this year for Baker is essential. They just fixed the back end of the defense.

Now Cleveland not only needs to go to the playoffs with Baker on that rookie contract. They need to win multiple games in the playoffs. If they can't win multiple games in the playoffs, I mean, Mitch Trubisky got to the playoffs. That doesn't insure anything. Baker has to win now with Cleveland's free agent acquisitions. Baker has to win multiple playoff games. Pittsburgh's dovetailing. Cincinnati's not there.

They need to do a Baltimore. You've got to go in and win multiple playoff games. And that's what the Giants are saying. Our division stinks. Jason Garrett's a top five coordinator. You got camp. You're going to have OTAs. We gave you stars everywhere.

It's a great receiving corps now. It's an excellent receiving core. In fact, you go receiver at a tight end. It's one of the top five or six in football. Now it's on Daniel Jones. 26 starts, training wheels are off, can you play? And if you can't, this group of people, somebody can play. So to me, and I'm okay with this.

I think all these quarterbacks now, you've got to give him about 25, 26 starts, and that's about what he's got. He showed signs of promise. He's a turnover machine, but he did get better at the end of last year. But that Kenny Dalladay moved, that's just for Daniel Jones. That's a Baker Mayfield, but we're going to give you a bunch of people. you've got to make the playoffs. And by the way, Baker made the playoffs in a much better division than the NFC East.

So give Baker. Baker got to the playoffs through Baltimore and through Pittsburgh and Cincinnati with Burrow was better. This is a nonsense division. This is a winnable division. I mean, Washington's got Ryan Fitzpatrick at quarterback. Cowboys defense is terrible. And who in the hell knows what Philadelphia is doing. So there you go, Daniel Jones.

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So Daniel Jeremiah is a former scout, three different teams, very well connected as the Chargers broadcast. He was talking over the course of the weekend on a podcast, that the Patriots might move up in the draft. They have the 15th pick, might move up to get a quarterback. I keep an eye on somebody like Trey Lancer, Justin Fields.

Those are the two that would make sense for them to target. Hear a lot of rumors out there that they are really high on Justin. Fields out of Ohio State. So they'd have to travel quite a distance to get up in range to get Justin Fields. But I'm with you with all they've done in free agency. It's kind of set up nicely to bring in a young quarterback. Listen, there's a difference between might and need to. The Patriots have a couple of things really working against them. The Jets have the number two pick. They're not doing New England any favors. And Miami's got the three pick. And they're not doing New England any favors. That's a bad break. San Francisco wants to move up in the draft. Jets and Miami.

would love San Francisco because that's an NFC team. So when you look at the teams right now, five minimum are going to draft a quarterback. Jags at one, Jets at two, Carolina 8, Denver 9, San Francisco, 12, all above New England. And all have a weapon offensively or a player offensively, which New England doesn't. They could put on the trade market to move up or picks. New England's got a couple of things working against it. Jets at two and Miami at three are not helping them, and they don't have any skill people to trade to get anything.

Carolina could throw in a Christian McCaffrey and move up. San Francisco's got multiple players they can move. Denver's got some outstanding young players. New England doesn't. So I don't think it's a need to. When I look at the draft board right now, Cincinnati at 5 and Atlanta at 4 is where New England has to get, and Cincinnati historically doesn't do trades.

That's just the Brown family. They don't take big risks. To me, they've got to get to Atlanta. New England's got to get to Atlanta at number four. Because remember, this is a great draft class. Next year is a terrible draft class for quarterbacks. So what do you do? I mean, it's very obvious on a one-year deal to Cam,

that's not the long-term issue. So you've got a great draft class now, a bad next year, and not a long-term solution. And remember, New England's also going to be better, at least on paper, they look better than last year. 9 and 7, 10, and 6. So they're not going to get a good draft pick. This is the year.

This is the time. And it really, it's not working in their favor. If they cannot make a deal with Atlanta number four, Jets and Miami are doing them no favors. And they don't have skill people to give away. It's really a starless roster. New England's got a lot of solid players. There's no stars.

Carolina can move up. They have stars. San Francisco has stars. Denver's got a couple of stars. New England doesn't. Enjoy it with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news.

This is the herd line news. Well, Patriots better hope. Atlanta's not still salty about that Super Bowl. That's a good point. I don't know how many trade friends and Patriots have left. So the men's NCAA tournament was filled with big upsets this weekend. 15-seed Oral Roberts is having a Cinderella run, knocking off two-seat Ohio State and seven-seed Florida to reach Sweet 16.

Eight-seed Loyola Chicago, their sister Jean, also shocked number one-seed Illinois for their spot in the Sweet 16. Oh, my God, they rolled them. That game wasn't even competitive. It was over. And then three-seed Texas and West Virginia fell to double-digit seeds. Abilene Christian and Syracuse, four-seeds Virginia and Purdue both suffered first-round exits

and Pac-12 tournament champs, Oregon State, took down five-seed Tennessee, and four-seat Oklahoma State. to become the third double-digit seed to make it to the second weekend of March Madness. Think about this, Joy, what's happening in college basketball, think if it happened in college football, where kids could play just one year of college football and go to the pros. Well, that would mostly be Alabama players and Ohio State players and Oklahoma players and Georgia players. It would be the big dogs. So what you'd have is these big dogs with some good recruits, but no depth and kids.

what's happening in college basketball, the really good players like Kate Cunningham, one in Duns, Kentucky doesn't even have one this year. So what you're seeing is everything gets smushed to the middle. If college football, you could leave after one year and go to the NFL, Alabama would lose games. Because what it really does, it hurts the big dogs. It hurts Kentucky and Duke and Louisville. And it would hurt in football, Clemson, Ohio State, Georgia. And so to me, outside of Gonzaga, everybody's just smushed.

in the middle. Well, this is a good example because people are always complaining that there's not enough parity in certain sports. This is a good example of what happens when you have parity. So we'll see who's watching and paying attention now that everybody has a chance, which I think is great. But is that really what sports fans want and enjoy? Or do they like seeing the big brands in the biggest games? Because that's all anyone can ever talk about. They hate dynasties. They We hate people that are, you know, Alabama and there every single year. College basketball is the only sport in America now. It's all parity.

There you go. There you go. Let's wait for the ratings. There were no upsets in the women's tournament. So the women are sticking to the, every favorite team won in the women's tournament. So the men's is a little different. But again, their best players don't go to the NBA or WNBA after a year. Exactly.

Exactly. So we'll see. You get your opportunity to show us, guys. You hate dynasties. We'll find out. Here we go. So the Rams have signed veteran receiver to Sean Jackson to a one-year deal. He was released by the Eagles this offseason after appearing in only eight games and two seasons due to injury.

But this will reunite him with Sean McVeigh, who was the offensive coordinator in Washington with Jackson for three years. He is in his 14th season in the NFL. He's now missed 28 games over the past three seasons due to injury. He hasn't played a full season since 2013, but he played in 14 or more games in each season during that period. but it's, I mean, it's been an injury issue for Deshaun. You know what it feels like? Do you remember a few years ago, Russell Wilson was on his rookie deal,

and the Seahawks had a very good what they thought was championship team, and they brought in Percy Harvin. Yep. And Percy had migraines and injuries, and then play them almost the whole year until the Super Bowl. That's what this feels like, is that the Rams have a really good receiving court, but they don't have a burner.

This is not about September, October. No. Can Deshawn Jackson in a big spot late in the year playoffs be an over-the-top burner for Matt Stafford who has a huge arm? And by the way, I'm not opposed to this at all. We've talked about this. This is A.J. Green to Arizona. You don't need him for 17. That's not what he's there for.

Everybody doesn't have to be that. That's right. And if they have a specific skill, which Deshaun does, if he can be healthy in the postseason or towards the end of the season, this is a great. piece for them. I don't think that he's going to be in every day, every down receiver. No. But everybody doesn't need to be that. That's what Cooper Cup and Robert Woods, that's why they make the big money. Cam Acres is your every, you know, your every series back. You're seeing this, it's kind of smart. Arizona did it with AJ Green. Dude, we need you for culture and some big plays and big moments against our division. We're not asking you

to play 17 games. I'm totally okay with it. Especially if you have a deep receiving court, because then you don't have fans asking where he is. Look what Tampa Bay did this. year. Yep. So rookie of the year frontrunner Lamello ball fractured his right wrist in the Hornets, lost of the clippers on Saturday. He will meet with a specialist to confirm the timetable for his recovery, but he is expected to miss the rest of the season. This is really disappointing for Lamello and for NBA fans. He was, he'll finish the season if it is over averaging 15.9 points, 5.9 rebounds, and 6.1 assists. He was spectacular. He helped the Hornets get to a 23rd. and 42 season last season to 20 and 21.

And in the thick of the Eastern Conference playoff hunts, it's a huge loss. He also obviously proved that he could shoot, which was a big question about how he was going to perform in the NBA. Yeah, he's the rookie of the year. He's 45.1% on the field goals and 37.5. On three-point attempts, it's disappointing. Yeah. It's been, you're getting, we've had some, it's been a bad couple of weeks in the NBA

for injuries. Lamello, Lamello hit it out of the park. He is a, he has, not. only is he a good player for them. He's a leader, but he's also, it's been kind of an uninteresting franchise. He's an interesting player, which God Carolina has needed forever. It's a great, great move for them. I'm glad it's working out. It's disappointing he's ending his season this way. But to your point, we're seeing a lot of injuries. It's a condensed season, shortened off season. It's not terribly surprising that we're seeing these injuries.

That's right. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Line News. It's about time to get in LaVille. LeVar ball on our show again. He's feeling pretty good about himself. You know, I always bring LeVar on after bad news. Now we've got some good news. We should probably bring him back on.

Senior NFL reporter Monday morning quarterback. Let's bring on Albert Breer, sponsored by Mercedes Benz, the best or nothing. You know, it's interesting. I'm listening, Albert, to Robert Krav talk about, hey, listen, there's market inefficiencies. We had a lot of cap space. We weren't competing against a lot of people. And I thought to myself, okay, market inefficiencies. It's also the fact you don't have any skill people.

A lot of this is New England going getting players because they're not very dynamic. And I look at that. And I do think this free agent spree by the Patriots is to some degree, I get the market inefficiencies. Some of it's Belichick acknowledging I've been lean in the draft. I think Bill is just owning sort of his inefficiencies. right well Colin that's why the the the cap space is there in the first place i mean the cap space is there because you look back three or four years and there aren't guys there to pay and look at the other teams that have cap space it's other teams that haven't drafted well the jets and the jaguars

and the one team that does have a lot of cap space that's um that's sitting there that has drafted well is the indianapolis colts why aren't they spending because they've got to go and pay guys like quentin nelson and darius leonard so you know this is of their own own doing. There's no question about that. Now, have they taken advantage of something here? Yeah, absolutely they have. You know, there's, there is a market and efficiency there in that there's not a lot of cap space across the NFL. They've got money to spend. There are less bidders out there, and there are more solid to good players available. So they've definitely taken advantage of that. But there's no question this was of their own doing. And I think the thing that you see here is that

there's a lack of core players in their roster and a lack of team speed, I think, on all. offense. And that's really what they tried to attack over the last week and going after it and free agency the way that they did. Yeah, I mean, they look slow. No question. They look slow. It is interesting. I can make the argument, not that they're desperate, but I was thinking about this. Cam's not their long-term solution, obviously. You can look at his contract. But there's a couple of things working against the Patriots, a 20-year dynasty. The Jets have the second pick. They're doing them no favors. Miami's got the third pick. They're doing them no favors. Those teams, I mean, Jets would love to do a deal with Sam Darnold and San Francisco. Miami would love to do a deal and send

somebody to the NFC. The other thing is Cincinnati's got the five pick and historically the Brown family, they don't make moves in the draft. And this is a really good quarterback draft. And next year is not a good quarterback draft. There's a lot of discussions about New England might move up and I kind of look at it and I think, Albert, I don't know if it's a mite. I think they're kind of, are they trapped? I mean, they've done it before. This wouldn't be the first time. If you look back to 2012, that year, you know, we went in thinking they've got two first round picks, but they've got no history of trading up. What did they do? They traded up twice. They traded up for Chandler Jones. They traded up for Dante Hightower. So they've done this in the past when they've seen opportunity there.

you know, and I certainly think that you have to look at this year's draft class at the quarterback position and sort of a two-year mosaic, like you said, somebody might get into that level in 2022, whether it's Keaton-Slovis or J.T. Daniels or Spencer Radler, whoever it is. Like, maybe somebody gets to that level, but they're not there right now. We knew who Justin Fields was at this time last year. We knew who Trevor Lawrence was at this time last year. We knew who Trey Lance was at this time last year. So, I mean, I think if you're the Patriots, you do have to look at it and say, if we don't get one this year, there's a chance we won't get one next year, especially because we expect to be better on the field next year.

And so, you know, I think it's certainly on the Patriots to act with a little bit of urgency here. And they're going to look at everything. So it doesn't mean they're necessarily locked into taking one in the first round. They could take, you know, somebody like Kellyn Mond or Jamie Newman in the second or third round. That might be their solution. But I certainly think if you look at those top four and see it the way most teams do, that those top four quarterbacks are head and shoulders above the rest of the class and those four guys are probably going to go in the top seven or eight picks, you know,

they need to start working on this and looking at the idea maybe of trading up with a team like Philadelphia at six or Detroit at seven to at least get ahead of the Carolina, Panthers at eight, because the Panthers sitting there at eight are seen by a lot of teams as the floor for these four quarterbacks. The floor. you interviewed Frank Reich about Carson Wents and Indy's a team that's very frugal, very smart with their money. And Philadelphia still has to pay a lot of Wences salary, but that's a big contract. And it's a little bit of a roll of the dice. Frank Reich's opinion on Carson Wents and where he's at today as a quarterback.

Well, you know, one thing Frank did was he looked at the whole picture. So, you know, he obviously had the experience with him the last time they were together. It was 2017. and before Carson once got hurt that year on a team that went to the Super Bowl, Carson once was playing like the MVP of the league. So what Reich tried to do was put that aside and put his personal feelings for once aside and taking a cold hard look at the last three years. And really, you know, I think the way he looked at it was 20 was a little bit of an isolated

problem the way he played. And you could relate it to a lot of different things. It was what was around him. It was the injury situation in Philadelphia. It was the fact that he was trying to play hero ball a little bit too much. And so what Frank Reich said looking at the situation was if we can get him into some sort of healthier offense, a healthier group of players around him, then that could do him a lot of good. And that was sort of what he went to Chris Ballard, their general manager with.

And, you know, Chris Ballard took a very, very deep look at the tape and found the same thing. And so what they're betting on right now, Colin, is that he doesn't need to be Superman in Indianapolis. He has one of the best offensive lines in football, if they can shore up that left tackle position, a really good young receiver in Michael Pittman, a really good young running back in Jonathan Taylor and a defense that's going to be able to win games for them.

So what they're betting on right now is they've got something established that's really, really good, and they won't need him to be Superman. They can tell them, go in, play quarterback, run the offense, the way we want it run, and you'll be fine. And so, you know, it's an interesting gamble just because I think the idea is creating a healthier situation for the quarterback is going to help the quarterback a whole lot. So it's interesting. The Kenny Goliday move, I think he's a remarkable talent.

But as you know, free agent wide receivers, I mean, it is a coin flip. Some just do not work at all. I looked at that move by the Giants and I thought, oh, they just put Daniel Jones on the clock. Between Kyle Rudolph and Goladay, they just said, kid, You got until Thanksgiving or our scouting department's looking for the next guy. That's what it felt like to me. If you look at their offense today, they should win that.

They should be explosive enough to win that division because our defense is not the issue, right? I mean, it's a, I mean, like beyond just the guys you mentioned, I mean, you know, Kenny Galdane and Kyle Rudolph, Evan Engram, Sterling Shepard, Darius Slayton. Oh, Sequin Barkley coming back from. It's loaded. They're loaded. From ACL surgery. and the offensive line, they poured draft capital into the offensive line last year. And I mean, look, like Dave Gettleman was obviously a huge part of bringing Daniel Jones in.

But you know who wasn't? Joe Judge. And Joe Judge has a lot of influence to that organization now. Now, on top of that, now Daniel Jones is going into year three. And the way these contracts are set up for rookies now, decision time for those guys comes after year three. And so they're certainly coming to a fork in the road with Daniel Jones. to me, the way I look at it, when they take the, you know, I think it was a little bit of a dice roll on Kenny Galdet, bringing in, uh, bringing in Kyle Rudolph to create some depth at that position. I think really, like more than anything else, the way I would phrase it, Colin is they're

looking for answers on Daniel Jones. And they know they're coming to this point after three years where they're going to have to make a decision on his fifth year option. Yep. And they're going to have to make a decision on extending him. And this is an easy way to get answers. Create a situation that's really healthy around him. And then, if it doesn't work out, it's on him and you move on. Is there a team in free agency? I wanted to like Washington so much, and then that Ryan Fitzpatrick move just is a head scratcher to me.

I just don't get it. Is there a team, though, maybe an under-the-radar team, that you liked their moves so far in free agency, which can, we know this, it's always dubious. You're much better off generally drafting players like Green Bay and developing them. That's kind of the way to go. but free agency, you can get pass rushers, you can get player. A lot of these guys hit, is there a team you like what they've done?

I'll give you to Washington, I would say yes. And I like the Fitzpatrick move a little bit more than you do, Colin, just because I think what it does is it gives you a chance to compete right now. They feel like they can repeat as division champions. So it'll put them in that mix where they can be competitive at the quarterback position, but they're not locked down. So they maintain the flexibility if Russell Wilson or Deshaun Watson were to come available over the next year. who they can still pursue that.

They can still pursue a trade up in the draft. So it allows them to maintain some flexibility. I really like Curtis Samuels fitting that offense as well. The other team I give you that I think sort of interesting here that didn't do much as far as veteran free agency. The San Francisco 49ers. The fact that they were able to get Trent Williams signed to the contract they got him signed to, which has very team friendly structure.

You think about where the Niners were a year ago when Joe Staley retired and left a big old hold at left tackle position. The fact that they were able to come out of that, only giving up a third round pick for Trent Williams. And now he's playing at the level he was in Washington. And he's their long-term answer at the left tackle position. I just think that's such a huge win for them. And you look at where the Niners are going to be now, they can get a little healthier,

get guys like Nick Bosa back on the field. I don't see why they wouldn't be in a position to compete for the Super Bowl again in 2021. Great stuff. Albert Breer, Monday morning quarterback joining us, the free agent stuff. It is, there's still, you know, it's funny, Albert, there's still players out there. There really are. There's guys out there.

And that's the market now. Lots of guys are going to have to do one year Prove It deals. Lots of guys are going to have to do bridge deals now. It's the reality of the salary cap in 2021. Good stuff, Albert. Thanks for coming on. Thanks, Colin. You bet.

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world for all our Survivor 50 takes. Listen to PodMeets Tworld on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. There's a lot of different skills out there. Kim Kardashian's probably as good as anybody. That's why it's kind of ironic. She at one point was married to Kanye West. Kanye West has monetized his brand better than anybody in the history of music.

Easy, the music. He's worth $6 billion. I mean, he's good. But that's a lot. That's like Elon Musk territory. It's like Kim Kardashian doesn't really sing, doesn't really dance. She's obviously a beautiful person. But she has figured out how to monetize her brand.

And that's a skill. Some people can. I've worked with a lot of people that are really good and they can never quite figure out how to make money with their skill. There's other people who are good and they've just figured it out. They just ATM machines. They've figured it out. John Gruden falls into that class category. Jack Dale Rios three years as a head coach.

Jack Del Rio, three years, head coach with the Raiders, not that long ago, 25 and 23 with a playoff appearance. John Gruden's three years with the Raiders, 19 and 29, not close to the playoffs. And he's made a, he's got a 10-year, $100 million deal. And Peter King was saying this weekend in his column is that he's got seven years left. And Mark Davis has to at some point, if they have another losing season, to think, this is a bad deal for me. Like there's no.

And here's the thing. The last six years for Gruden, he's 14 games under 500 with two four and 12 years, one in Tampa and one in Vegas or Oakland. So I don't have a problem. I do think he's got that Kardashian quality. He monetizes his brand. He did it at ESPN. He was the highest paid person there.

And good for him. He's smart that way. Kim Kardashian, my daughter is always like, Dad, that's what a genius looks like. Like, she doesn't dance. She doesn't sing. She's figured out how to brand it and work it and God love her. I am all for it. But, you know, Gruden gets lumped into this elite class.

And it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. So there are six coaches, the big six in the NFL. These are the six best coaches because resumes matter. Resumays matter. Andy Reid, 10 plus wins in 15 of his 22 years. Bill Belichick, nine Super Bowl appearances, highest winning percentage of any active coach. John Harbaugh, 13 years, one losing season. By the way, eight road playoff wins is the most in NFL history for a coach.

The next is Pete Carroll. 10 plus wins in eight of his nine years in Seattle. He's got a pretty good sense for personnel. He built the best last great defense we had in the NFL was Pete Carroll's. And then Sean Peyton, he's one of the most creative, intense, passionate people in football. Last four years, 11 plus wins, a great quarterback developer. That's the big six. Gruden's not close to that.

He's also what I would say, not in the young risers category. These are young, great coaches that are winning a lot. Kyle Shanahan, first year, he had a quarterback that was upright, 13 and 3 in the Super Bowl. Matt LaFleur, what can I say? I didn't know he'd be this good. 26 and 6. Aaron Rogers is reborn was unbelievable this year. Mike Vrable.

That dude wins. That dude wins. Ryan Pantahill, shot fighter, gets to the playoffs. Sean McDermott, I think he is as good as any of these young guys. McDermott has, along with a very good general manager, he's probably the best young defensive coach in football. He's out of this world good. And by the way, Josh Allen was a project at best,

and now he's like Mahomes like. And then Sean McVeigh's got the second highest winning percentage in the NFL outside of Belichick. So Gruden's not in the big six. And by the way, the big six also, I skipped over Mike Tomlin. He's never had a losing season in 14 years. Okay. And Big Ben's got his drama.

So there's the big six. And then there's the young risers. I would put Gruden in that third class and probably near the bottom of it, which is what I would call winning coaches. These are winning coaches. Bruce Ariens, McCarthy, Mike Zimmer, Frank Wright, John Gruden, Ron Rivera. These are winning coaches. They're all capable.

I'd put John closer to the bottom than the top. There is nothing wrong with being in this group. I would put Frank Reich and Ariens now at the top of this. Mike Zimmer's a little conservative for my taste offensively. McCarthy feels, sorry, a little outdated. Doesn't really get defense. Rivera, I think, is very good. Head scratcher with his last quarterback acquisition, but he's very good.

But John has monetized himself into the highest paid coach in NFL history. And it's a talent, and I'm not knocking it. But you start looking at the results. His last six years, he's got two four and 12 seasons, not a single great season. They were done with him in Tampa. Now, I do think before they unloaded their two best offensive linemen, I think you can make an argument. He's been a little impulsive as a coach. I think my take on the Raiders is he's got too much power.

and John wakes up one morning two years ago and says, I'm going to spend a fortune on the offensive line and finally admits we overpaid. And so this offseason, he's scaling back on the offensive line salaries. A couple years ago, John was like, I want character guys. Well, okay, but that made him reach for a couple guys in the draft that weren't as good as their draft selection. And then he also went and got some guys who are not really what you would call high character guys. So I think he's a very impulsive guy. I think he's a smart guy.

he can monetize his brand well. There's not, God love you, Kim Kardashian, Kanye, John Gruden. It is a talent and it's a great talent. Some would say it's as good as any talent. But I agree with Peter King. Like they have melted down as a franchise post- Thanksgiving the last two years. They have melted down. Now, some would argue they don't have the depth.

Well, whose fault is that? This is the NFL. I watch Bill Parcells take a 1-15 Dolphin team go 11 and 5 as a GM in 1. year. You can add depth in the NFL in one offseason. That's not an excuse. Now, it's hard to find a star quarterback. You know, that part, it's hard to build an offensive line into an elite unit. I'm not just depth. You can build depth in an offseason. Good draft, good free agency. There's a, there's 75 guys every year in the NFL, low contract in the league, build depth. That's not an excuse. So I'm kind of with Peter King on this.

I think it's time. I am not a fan of tenure contracts for anybody. I think I wouldn't want a tenure contract. First of all, I don't, the market changes every hour. You know, there's a TikTok platforms every day that you get into a 10-year contract and your company makes a fortune on these new platforms and you're stuck in a 10-year deal. The second thing is, I would think I'd get lazy. If I knew for 10 years, I mean, it's just, it's human nature.

Here's a 10-year contract. You feel bulletproof. Who's going to fire me? Now, I mean, don't get me wrong. The Steelers don't fire their coaches. So Mike Tomlin doesn't drive to work today thinking he's going to get fired. He shouldn't be. Never had a losing season.

But the Raider thing is interesting to watch because that division, I'm sorry, but the Chargers had a good off season and Kansas City's going nowhere. the Raiders feel like a third place team to me. And you got seven years left with Gruden. Watch out. Yeah. Well, the Broncos are actually one of the fascinating teams. There's another story this week.

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