The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 03/24/2021 - HOUR 3 - WRs, NCAA

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They know their stuff. By the way, you know what I don't like? You know how sometimes you have to wait for a certain technology to be developed? And there's like, technology is mostly all developed to make life more efficient. That's kind of what we're all doing this, right? whether it's Google, you know, used to be you'd have to look up stuff. And then Google came around. You put something in Google, boom, you have all the information. One of the things I don't love is when you use a company and they say at the end of this experience,

will you stay on the line for five questions and a survey? And I hate that. I always think, well, isn't there a technology? So when I call you, look at my number and it shows you my history of using your company. and if you're Delta Airlines and I spend $20,000 a year flying with you, I like your company. Well, I mean, isn't that what the purpose of the questionnaires for

so that if you have a bad experience, they can follow up with you? Yeah, but if I have a bad experience, I'll go to Twitter and call them out. No, you will not. I'm just saying, I use you all the time, store, store. Nobody likes doing those questionnaires. You just don't do them.

I always say no. Sometimes I do them, though. If I have a long, if I'm dealing with a customer service representative for a long time and they help me, then I will do it. Because I imagine that they probably get good reviews if we need a review for them. I'm not a complainer. Like I'm not a complainer. So if I, if let's say it was less than satisfactory, like my wife yesterday had an unbelievable bad experience. She's a good person.

Yeah, my wife was furious at best. Best Buy. She went, got a TV, brought it home. It was used. Banged up. I didn't know if you were going to tell this story. No remote, no power cord. You would have heard about it before I got here. No, my wife was furious. I would have just said, okay, I'm not going there. So she went back and said, it's used and it's missing stuff. And they're like, okay, you get a, you get a rebate. And then on her drive home, the manager calls and says, no, you're trying to scam us. You're a thief. And she's like, excuse me. And then she said, she said, she was so mad. She said, she said, she was so mad. She said, Go look at my history with your store.

She says, I've spent tens of thousands of dollars. Why would I try to scam you? I buy it your store all. It was a television. Oh, she was so. My wife was so mad. And I was, I had to cool her down. It's the audacity for me.

Scamming you out of a television? Didn't you buy other televisions there at the same time? Probably eight over the course of them. So she was just trying to get like one free TV? Listen, I'm not here to bad mouth people. I'm not a complainer. Like if I get bad service, I'm not going to tell you about it. I'm just not going to go somewhere.

Yes, I agree. That's who I am. My wife is going to get on the phone and yell at you. Well, I mean, if someone's accusing you of scamming them. She told me the story. And I said, not that I don't believe her she was so mad. I said, it sounds like something. It's like unsolved mysteries of retail.

It doesn't even sound right. I don't know how you come to the conclusion that that is what you do. It's a bad experience. What's up, everyone? it's me three-time NFL all-pro Sean Marion. And I have a new sports podcast called The Lights Out Podcast with Sean Murrayman. This podcast is special to me as I get a chance to talk to some of the best we've ever done it on the field or the track. So whether it's talking to a Super Bowl champion or a NASCAR Cup Series champion,

the Lights Out podcast will bring it to you the only way I know how to. I'm giving you the best insight from the best who's ever done it. Listen to Lights Out with Sean Merriman on the IHeart Radio app or wherever you can get your podcast. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all,

embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying.

Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement

to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment

and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream,

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app. Search Learn the hard way and listen now. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do a little Kim? Well, you can find out

on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack.

I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so you all know. I mean, at this point, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really?

Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Uh, joy with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. When we call you, there should be a technology that tells you that we like your product or we wouldn't shop there all the time.

I think they probably do. They probably, I'm sure they do. So why do I have to do a survey? Because companies always want more information. Well, I don't have more time. One of the most valuable currencies in the world is information. All right. And that's why most of these

harvest them. You were sweating. I'm sweating now thinking about it. I'm mad for her. I told you the story this morning and you were just, you were incredulous. Anne was so mad. You know how mad I was when you told me that story?

I thought about what I would do. I went to my dressing room and I'm getting ready for the show and I thought about like I played in my head what I would do if the store told me I was scamming them out of a television. Like how I would react. And I know that God is looking out for me because I'm very, very, very rarely in situations like that because I don't know what I would do, but I would not be pleasant. So I'm glad that Ann is a wonderful person. He was not pleasant. So the Patriots were big spenders in free agency this year, but one, NFC Scout doesn't think they brought in the right

players. According to Mike Giardy, the scout said they paid a premium for a few players who aren't premium talent or premium producers. The Scout did admit the Patriots address their need for a talent infusion, but he doesn't think they spent their money wisely. I don't think a lot of people feel that the Patriots like overly scored you're going to overpay in free agency that's what happens I think they solved their tight end issue

which was dire yes but like a lot of people feel they paid more money they paid great money for good talent yeah Hunter Henry can't stay healthy is very good so they did overpay for Hunter Henry but like overpay if you have needs if you need something right there is a limited amount of that

service no that's a good point Then you're going to pay. You're going to pay. Yeah, I tend to be. I think like that, too. If I need something, it's not an overpay. No. No.

It's not like they are out here, you know, lauding themselves for all these splashy signings. No. They had the worst tight end group in terms of yards, touchdowns, catches, easily in the NFL. I think their leading tight end had 187 yards last year. I mean, what would you prefer? They not be aggressive? Yeah, I. I would, free agency generally shouldn't be there to solve your issues.

What it should be there is to augment a unit. Like, I think the Jets have a good defensive line. Carl Lawson makes it an even better defensive line. That I can argue. I don't like. You shouldn't be necessarily replacing core position groups in free agency, but the Patriots had to do that. Free agencies generally, to your points,

add an addition that's going to put you over the edge. Those are the teams that generally win free agency when you look a few years down the road. It wasn't something that you're solving your entire team's problems. But also, the patients had no choice. What are they going to do? Look at the division. Look what they had last year. I don't think that they, I don't look at it as overpaying. Like, there's certain things you're just going to overpay for. If you're getting fleeced on something, then that's different. Well, listen, the chargers needed to upgrade their old lines. So they made their center, Corey Lindley the highest paid center, but their argument is we have the best young quarterback in football not named Patrick Mahomes. We're not overpaying. He's protecting him.

And he don't have to pay him right now. That's right. So it's money well spent. So the Eagles have signed Joe Flacco to a one-year deal. It's worth up three, it's worth $3.5 million guaranteed with the opportunity to earn up to $4 million in incentives. And he's heading into his 14th season and is expected to be the backup for Jalen Hertz. He started four games for the Jets. He started four games for the last year, 55.2 completion percentage, 864 yards, six touchdowns, and three interceptions. Obviously, this is not the same Joe Flacco

that we saw. No, this is... He's a old mountain man, Joe Flacko. But I do think this is an interesting signing because it feels like it's a commitment to Jalen Hertz. Yes, yes. He's a clear backup now. Just a veteran backup. You can throw him out into a game. He's not lost.

He knows the league. But there's been a lot to talk about if they're going to draft another quarterback, and I couldn't see them doing that after also bringing in. No, to me, they're not going to, Philadelphia is not going to take a quarterback at six, nor should they. I agree. They should give Jaylen Hertz a year.

I don't like Atlanta taking one at four either, but I think they're trapped because all the stuff they need, they'd be massively overdrafting. Atlanta's a fascinating. This is why I think when I do mock drafts, I don't do trade, they're stupid. Atlanta's got to trade down. They do not need a quarterback, and they need what is readily available in the middle and late first round. So Atlanta, what's the point of drafting a quarterback and not playing, not playing Trey Lance for two years? They can't stop anybody. Yeah, I don't, I don't think

that a quarterback is. Atlanta's, my only, my only trade that I'll guarantee today. I guaranteed one blowout in the tournament. You're right. I guaranteed Colorado would blow out Georgetown. That was the only guarantee. My only trade guarantee, Atlanta will not pick forth. It is a, it would be, they're too well run not to move that pick. They have so many needs on the defensive side and they're all kind of available 10 through 23. I can't wait for the draft. Oh, I love the draft. Love it. But this draft particularly, there's so many teams that need a quarterback and there's kind of a deep amount of quarterbacks and everyone is getting these random evaluations now like Justin Fields all of a sudden can't

play and like it's getting very wild. You don't know what's what's happening with Sam Darnold. I could see a lot of moving in this year's draft. Although we thought there was going to be a lot of moving last year and there wasn't. So I love this video. I love this video because people are always talking about how much better they are and how weak certain players are. And then sometimes you get to meet those players in real life and then sometimes you get the opportunity to play one-on-one against them. And this brave high schooler saw Brian Scalabrini shooting around and challenged him to a game of one-on-one. And, And the kid put his sneakers on the line and a friendly wager with him.

And quickly found out that was not a good idea because he played for 11 seasons in the NBA. And it's a different kind of player. I love it because you'll see guys on runs at like L.A. Fitness or Equinox. They swear they're better than like the worst guy in the league. The worst guy in the NBA will put up 60 on your score every single time. in a one-on-one game against anyone who's not played in the league. It's such a different level when you get to the NBA and to play 11 seasons.

I've watched this video like a million times. Obviously, he's in high school and they were just having fun. Brian Scalabrini played 11 years in the NBA. That's a long NBA career. Yes. And by the way, forget the minutes he played. Practice. He practiced against NBA guys for over a decade.

You get better. just practicing against guys that Brian Scalabrini played with. I mean, I don't think that people, sometimes, like, I encourage you if you ever have that opportunity, if you're in a city where NBA players are training, to go and you can get to a run. Because sometimes there are runs that are open to the public and just go physically, because it's one thing to watch it to the game. But when you're watching practice, like, Russell Westbrook's shoulders are this big. I know.

They're this big. Yeah. They're this big. If he ran up to you and pushed you, you would fly across the studio right now. If you were ready for it. Yeah. It's like the level of like human. I remember when I was in high school.

Athletic ability and strength is not, you can't, I can't explain. So I was in high school and I was, you know, like second team all conference. I was a decent high school player, kind of a ball hog gunner. And I graduate high school and I come back about five years later. And the guy coaching my high school is a former college player. And we all showed up in the summer like the best players at our high school over the last four or five years. He was so much better than all of us.

He was dunking on us. He was like a backup in the PAC 12 at Washington State. It's just rolling, jamming, tomahawk dunking. And I'm like, okay, that's a Pac-12 player. Yeah, it's another level. Yeah, Joey with the News. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.

The Hurd-Ly News. 13 years and six Pro Bowls. Former NFL Great is now a co-host on First Things First. He's got a new, there's a document. tonight, Brandon Marshall started a business called House of Athletes Going Pro, where he kind of created his own combine for a lot of these young guys. There's the pandemic. It's a great idea. And the documentary starts tonight at 530 Eastern on FS1.

And Brandon is now joining us live. By the way, did you ever for a second, would you go into coaching? This is obviously you like working with athletes. Would you consider coaching? No. No, I can just cut you off right now. Absolutely not. I'm going to wake up at five in the morning every day and go to sleep and leave the office at 10 p.m.

Heck no. All right, that's fair. But you do like working with young people as we saw in this video. You do like the personal connection to young people, right? Yeah, I like the other side. So, like, the guys like Mo Wells, who came over from IMG Academy, who's phenomenal, one of the best in the business. Troy Jones, best in the business. Like, I'm not an expert there.

And I don't pretend to be. I don't sell that to these guys. We've been doing it since 2012. But what I am an expert in is being a professional athlete. I'm an expert in making mistakes and learning from. I'm an expert in, you know, the mental health stuff and having my mental fitness level where it needs to be. And that's what I love and that's what I embrace is that moment that I get every single day

when I walk into our facility to talk to these guys about their stress level and talk to these guys about performance. And it can be on any end of the spectrum. whether dealing with anxiety, depression, or dealing with, you know, mindfulness and how do I take my game to a whole other level? So that's where I really embrace, you know, these moments and where I think, you know, I thrive when it comes to performance is not the real, the physical training, but the mental fitness training. You know, Akim Talib told me a couple days ago, he said he was a great college player at Kansas. And he said, when I came into the NFL, he goes, those first few days at the OTA, I'm like, man, even the scout team guys. guys can beat me down the field. And he said, but I started having better practices. He goes, but

Colin, it took me about a month where I was like, okay, I'm an elite corner. And it's interesting. Go back college to pro, the transition for you. How much of the NFL do you is mental? How much is physical? 80% mental. I mean, that's life and sport. You know, only 20% is physical. Think about this. I mean, I got a similar story that Talib has. Rod Smith. Rod Smith was in year 12, I believe, and I was a rookie, and we were in our off-season program, and he beat me 10 out of 10 times when we were running these 80-yard sprints. This is a dude who had a hit problem, and I couldn't figure out why Rod Smith was still beating him.

I'm faster than him. I'm younger than him. I'm more healthier than him. But his mindset and his mentality to how he approached practice every single day was just different. And I learned a critical lesson there from Rod Smith. Smith, 80% is mental. You can be the best at, look it, I truly believe, Colin, I'm going to be honest here. You know, my first four years, you know, I was one of the problems in the locker room.

I was a distraction. And I probably messed up probably $100 million, meaning that I didn't burn any money, but I'm talking about career earnings. I'm talking about marketing deals and endorsement deals. People didn't want to touch me. We're talking about, you know, being able to get back to the table earlier. And I should have probably made, you know, 12, 13. million dollars a year instead of 10 million dollars a year. So I messed up probably a hundred

million dollars there. And then also when you're not mentally a strong or you're not mentally, uh, uh, um, you know, I fit, I should say, what happens to your, your production and your performance? So I'm sure I could have probably done more and achieved more things on the field if I was just healthier off the field and also mentally. So I would say 80%. Yeah, Levanti David, or the box told us this yesterday. He's been a defensive captain last seven years. He goes, when I first got into this league, I was out till one in the morning. I wasn't eating right. I'd get up and he goes, I finally figured out. My body is my life. I got to figure this out and he talked about treating his body well. It's interesting. I want to throw this at you. So Juju Smith-Schuster's real talented. We know that.

But he went out to the market and there weren't a lot of offers. And I've heard people say he's too silly. He's on, he's too into, and I think to myself, well, generationally, I'm not a guy on TikTok, So I can't speak to that, right? But when you go back in your early career, could I make the argument that social media sometimes, Brandon, is not your friend, is not your ally? It lets teams know you're sidetracked, you're into yourself. How do you view that? What do you tell these young kids about social media in that aspect? Yeah, listen, just like I tell your buddy and my buddy now Nick Wright on her show, I'm with you when you write.

Social media ain't always a friend. Here's the problem, right? Social media is a part of our environment. There's this generation of folks that's like, oh, social media is bad. Social media is bad. No, it's not. Like, we're innovating. That's who we are as a people.

Like, we're always going to try new things. We're always going to innovate new things. Technology is going to get better. Science is going to get better. It's going to get better. So that's what's happening here. But when you're a professional athlete, you always got to remember this thing. Look, that's good.

But keep the main thing, the main thing. your job is to score touchdowns, Juju. Your job is to also help your team win games. So when I look at Juju, excellent person, he's great in the locker room. But sometimes that social media, like, that's your main thing. Like, when you walk out on the field before the game and all you're thinking about is your followers, like, that's a distraction. That's taken away from, you know, you tap it into when it's third and one, the game is on the line.

This is a critical situation that coach just coach Thomas said it's going to, it's going to, come up in the game and it's going to be the difference between winning and losing and you miss that. That's a problem. Like those are, it comes down to moments. It's not about 60 minutes. It's not about, you know, 72 plays in the game. It's about three or four moments in the game and you got to be tapped in. And that takes a certain amount of attention to detail.

So I think the issue that we're seeing now with professional athletes is they're so worried about the brand and they're not worrying about, you know, football or they're not worrying about the ball. And that's what's happening with guys like Ju-Jew Smith. Because when you look at it's like, you just had 800 yards. You know, that's that. I mean, I mean, what is that? I mean, as a wide receiver, I could do eight, I could, I could, I could bring home 800 yards halfway through the season. So I need a little bit more production from some of these guys that is really embracing social media. All right.

Tonight, 530 Eastern, it's called House of Athletes Going Pro. Check it out. Very interesting. the dream of millions that 1% achieve, the chosen few. Brandon Marshall at the forefront of this. If you're a young athlete, a parent, you want to see the grind and the work. I'm excited for this. I'm happy for you, Brandon.

You're a huge talent. And I appreciate you stopping by our show, bud. No, I appreciate it. It's going to be awesome. Thank you. You bet, Brandon Marshall. Jim Beheim's around the corner of the tournament. He plays this weekend next.

Be sure to catch live editions of the herd. Weekdays at noon Eastern 9 a.m. What's up, everyone. It's me, three-time NFL All-Pro Sean Marriam. And I have a new sports podcast called The Lights Out Podcast with Sean Mariam. This podcast is special to me as I get a chance to talk to some of the best who've ever done it on the field or the track. So whether it's talking to a Super Bowl champion or a NASCAR Cup Series champion, the Lights Out podcast will bring it to you the only way I know how to.

I'm giving you the best insight from the best who's ever done it. Listen to Lights Out with Sean Merriman on the IHeart Radio app. or wherever you get your podcast. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all,

embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying.

Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.

This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Cliverts Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream,

this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clivert Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hardway with me,

your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games. And in recognition of mental health awareness month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking, Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing,

we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we don't realize that we don't. We are in possession of the thing, and we're still chasing it, and we don't know when we've done enough. Because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross, because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth, or are you a good person because you're afraid?

Because that's two different intentions, bro. Absolutely. And that's two different levels of trust. I want you to just really be a good person. Join me, Keer Gaines, is we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast, Learn the Hardway. Open your free iHeartRadio app,

search Learn the Hardway, and listen now. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim?

Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survive. including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s.

To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack, so I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now, so... Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes, I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really?

Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important. years from black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. He's coached 45 years at Syracuse and they've never had a losing season, which doesn't even sound right. Jim Beheim's a legend. Four and a half decades of winning. He's joining us live.

They play this weekend against Houston Saturday. So here's one of the things I like. I like guys that get a little older and they adapt. And your team shoots a ton of threes. And you could have easily said, I'm going to play my defense. I'm going to do what I do. I'm not going to go to threes.

And you just went all in on threes. And when was the moment you decided? I got to change my coaching offensively. You know, we've been using more threes, but we have three really good shooters this year. So we started out shooting a lot of them. The problem was we were shooting them, but we weren't making them.

So, you know, it was a struggle. And then as we got a little longer into the season, guys got healthier. The COVID pauses hurt us a little bit. But we started to make shots. And you're a lot better coach, Colin, when that ball goes in the basket. We're on the same plays, shoot the same shots. But it's going in the basket.

And it's good to be with you, too. I haven't talked to you in a while. And I keep saying you're picking against us. So I think that's a good sign. You know, I think that's a good sign when you pick against us. Hey, your son is a great shooter. Now, he's a better shooter than dad was. Let's be honest, he shoots the ball better than you did.

Yes, absolutely. He's not a better player, but he's getting forward. That is funny. So, you know, it's interesting. I grew up college basketball, Syracuse, Georgetown, the Big East, the ACC, the best team I've seen so far in the tournament is little old Gonzaga. You know Mark Few. He's one of your friends.

How are they the best team in the country? out of Spokane. You know, the best advice I ever gave anybody in coaching was when Mark was, you know, obviously doing very well five, six, seven years ago. And we, we go on a Nike trip together. And I told him, I said, look, you got one of the best jobs in the country. Don't leave it for what looks like a bigger job. And, you know, he's, Mark figured out on his own that he had a good job.

But now he's actually at a place that will attract a guy like Jalen Suggs that will attract a big name recruit. And that's not bad. And he can fish out the back door of his house up there, which I've been fishing with him a couple times. Without a doubt, he's the best trout fisherman in college basketball coaching. And it's not even close. By the way, you've played different teams. You just played West Virginia. And Huggins is a hell of a coach.

trap and they're difficult. So you're having to play different styles. This is an interesting year where Gonzaga looks like the best offensive team. Baylor's a good defensive team. Everybody else to me, Jim, looks close. I can't pick the games this year. I mean, to me, I've never seen a year where it's more smushed together. It's better for the fans because anything can happen. Now Oregon State has proven that, you know, Orr Roberts, us to some extent. I think that I think there's a little bit of separate a big separation between gazaga and then bailor probably close to them but i think really when you watch right now um i think i don't know i think michigan's still pretty good if they had

the kid that's out livers i think they would they'd be right in that conversation but they're still very good because the kid with transfer from our late wake forest brown is really good so i like them but the team that's impressed me the most in the term is loyal of chicago yeah They're tough, physical. I think Illinois was the best, second, best, third best team coming into this tournament. And they didn't just beat Illinois. They just, it was an easy game. It was really not much of a contest game for Loyola.

So they've been very impressive in this tournament. And obviously, Oregon and USC. I mean, the West Coast has really stepped up. And anybody that doubted them earlier in the year, they've been proven wrong. That's the great thing about this tournament. Sometimes when you're in a league and you're just beating up teams in your league, it doesn't necessarily mean your league's all that good. It just means that you've got a lot of teams that are good and they're beating each other,

but you have to wait until you get in this tournament, and then you see how leagues do. And, you know, the Pac-12 has obviously been the Surprise League by far. And it's not even close. So it's hard to evaluate. I've been evaluating players. teams my whole life. And I laugh a little bit when, you know, when the evaluators out there are saying, this league is so much better than this league. And you really can't tell until you

get in the tournament and you play other teams, you know, during the year, especially this year, you're just beating your own teams. Right. So that doesn't mean your league's that good. It just means you're good in your league. By the way, they'll face Houston, a team that doesn't have a huge brand, but is very good. You are 45 years, no losing seasons. You've coached NBA players. You still have great energy. When will Jim Beheim know?

Hey, it's time for somebody else I'm done. When will you know? The car drive home, the epiphany, the moment. When will you know? Hey, I've done it blank years. I'm done. I'm coaching until I can't win anymore. I've said that for 10 or 15 years.

I remember my AD a long time ago. I was 60. He said, well, you're going to get out pretty soon. you. I mean, I think I was 58. And I said, well, no, I'm not really thinking about that. And I'm not thinking about it now. If we can win, I feel great, you know, do a little work. A little Pilates has been good for me, a little swimming. But I'm going to coach. I mean, Warren Buffett still goes to work every day, doesn't he?

Yeah. And he's, what, 90? All he does is, you know, talk to people. All I do is talk to people. That's all I do. I don't have to get out and dig any, you know, dig any hole, these ditches or, I don't have to run up and down the court. So if I can keep winning, keep getting good players to come to Syracuse, you know, I feel like I'll coach for a while. You still like her? I got a minute left.

Do you like recruiting still? Yeah, recruiting is not bad. You meet a lot of good people. And I haven't had, you know, you have a couple of bad experiences. But no, overall, I learned a long time ago. If you don't have good players, you won't be in this business very long. So if you don't get out and recruit, you know, you're not going to be in this business very long. Yeah, it's what the late Jerry Tark Canyon once told me.

He said, everybody complains about recruiting. He goes, like, go to steak for free and have a couple beers on the university. He's like, it's not that bad. I've got to be honest with it. It's not a terrible living. He was a great guy to listen to for advice, the Tark. There was not many like him. I went out to dinner with him in Vegas once he drove in, parked in the sidewalk in front of the restaurant of Las Vegas,

left his car there. he's in the car, went inside, ate, whatever, left, said thank you to everybody left, got in his car, drove home, and, you know, he took a two-go order from a five-star restaurant. Jim Beehind, they play, that's funny. All right, when you get out to L.A.,

you know, you could say hi once in a while and, you know, would we take you to dinner and hang out with you a little bit? You know, I'm not a bad guy to hang out with, so you're out here, Ken. I'm coming this summer. My son's about to work out there to get faster and stronger.

So I'm coming out. When I'm out there, I'll definitely call you and I'd be happy. I know you're not going to take me to dinner, but I'll take you to dinner. That's right. Syracuse and Houston Saturday, one of the good guys, Jim, Beham. Jim, great seeing you, coach. Thank you. I appreciate it.

His son, by the way, is averaging 27 a game. That's the six highest points by any player in the tournament. How about that? His son, Buddy. How about that? Buddy, that sounds like a great name. buddy Beheim That is a good name

That's a good basketball That's got to be a thrill to coach your son in the tournament Especially when he's dropping 27 points a game That's really a thrill Heard brought to you by Jersey Mike subs Be a sub above Good stuff we had Jimmy Behueyme Brandon Marshall Mike Silver

T.J Hushman's out of Nick Wright I barely sweat today Enjoy filled the rest of the time I like days like today Uncle Colin just mails it in That's what today felt like And I'm here for it We'll see you tomorrow

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