The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 04/12/2021 - HOUR 2 - Right and wrong, Browns

Episode Date: April 12, 2021

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go on a Monday hour two live in Los Angeles. It is the herd, wherever you may be, and however you may be listening, High Heart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, FS1. What did you do this weekend, Joy? I didn't even ask you. I was so swiftly moving in and out of topics last hour. What did you do? I didn't do much.

Just chilled. It was a beautiful weekend again. Now, do you hang out more on Montana or Wilshire? You know, I kind of bounce around L.A. I'm not really like a – most people in L.A. kind of stay in their little. area. That's me. Like, yeah, like, you're a, you're a Manhattan Beach guy.

You're, like, always in Manhattan Beach. Although I will say Manhattan Beach is not the easiest place to get in and out of, so I do understand. But generally, like, that's how people in L.A. are. I imagine, like, New York is kind of similar where, like, whatever your area of the city is. Yeah, if you're in the village, you stay in the village. Yeah, you kind of stay in that area because the traffic is difficult and it's hard to get around. But I don't, I don't really subscribe to that.

I don't mind. So you're a bouncer all over the city. Yeah. I don't go to, like, Hollywood too often because that's kind of a. a far hall for me. Yeah. Yeah. I like to experience the city. LA is a great place. It's got a lot going on.

And the weather right now. It's finally open. The weather is nice. People are happy. People are so happy. But Dodgers had like 15,000 people. And it's like, you know what? Sports survived without the fans. It did. But it really flourishes with fans. It just matters more. It's like fun to watch fans. Yeah. No, I mean, you felt it.

Like we were happy to have sports on TV for many reasons, obviously. the normal sleeping one of them. But when you see fans in the stands, it's like it plays a massive role. Josh Allen was talking about just how important it was having to the 20,000 fans that Kansas City had in the game. You know when I really noticed it, when Lambo had like 800 people and you're like, this is awful. Yes. Lambo was when I walked. It was so eerie.

It was almost more eerie than when there was no one in the stands. It was like, wow. Friends and family. You really start to consider how many people are going to. the games when you see those massive empty stadiums. I'm glad to have it back. Good stuff. We're Colin Wright. Colin Wrong brought to you by Jersey Mikes. Good

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AD and LeBron, they're going to return with 10 games left. Isn't that what we called last week? on the shell, we said, as long as the Lakers keep winning, why would you hurry and bring brittle A.D. and old LeBron back? They've won five of their last eight. They hammered Brooklyn. And immediately, the story's out, well, we're going to bring them.

And 10 games left is about what we guessed, because that's about the time you need to kind of get LeBron and AD in game shape, get the cobwebs off, you re-energize. It's just so. It's so predictable. Where Colin was wrong. Mac Jones going third, according to Adam Schaefter. I don't get it.

I mean, listen, if you draft Mac Jones anywhere in the first round, I understand that, right? You need a quarterback. But to give up three first round picks for a 6-2, 217-pound unappletic quarterback in a great quarterback class, I don't get it. And I'm rooting for the guy. Now, I do think,

Whoever San Francisco gets a quarterback will have some success. Like you don't know how the president would have been that you didn't elect. You don't know if Mack Jones is successful, if he would have been more successful than, you know, Justin Fields. But I just, I mean, to me, you give up three first round picks for a really transcendent talent, not for a quarterback that a lot of scouts are totally split on. where Colin was right? Well, I said several times.

I love Russell Wilson, but I said, listen, you want more players, take a pay cut. Same with Aaron Rogers. And last week, an agent came out and confirmed it on a story by ESPN that he has called the Packers, and the Packers have called him and they can't do anything because they don't have any room because Aaron's the number one cap hit in the league, which Aaron has earned the money. But Patrick Mahomes just restructured his deal and Brady continually restructures his deal. So to me, if Russell and Aaron

want better players, there is a solution. Call your agent. Take more guaranteed, push some back, and you'll get better players. Where Colin was wrong. I liked when Carolina went and acquired Teddy Bridgewater, but a year later, Matt Ruhle

is out. Matt Ruhl wants to push the ball down the field. That's why they acquired Speedy Robbie Anderson at wide receiver, and they do not believe Teddy Bridgewater does that. Listen, he's got a high completion percentage. But increasingly in the NFL, you have to be dynamic at quarterback. Now, dynamic can look like a lot of things.

It can look like Lamar Jackson. It can look like Josh Allen. It can look like Tom Brady. But Bridgewater, as good as he is, had 15 touchdown passes in 15 games. And that's with an excellent, wide receiving and running back group. Where Colin was right? Well, I've been on the Kyle Pitts Bandwagon almost since the end of college. football, the Florida tight end because I watched a lot of SEC football.

Now everybody's on it. Jerry Jones reportedly wants to move up to get him. Atlanta at number four, a story today, they will take him. Listen, if you watch SEC football, Kyle Pitts was not only the best athlete, but as a tight end, he was dominating first-round cornerback prospects, meaning little guys who run fast couldn't keep up with him. He is the best prospect in the draft. Now, it doesn't mean he couldn't get hurt.

It doesn't mean he couldn't have a bad coach. But if he lands with a good quarterback in a decent system, he will be Chase Young to Washington. He will pop within six games. Where Colin was right? Even Charles Barkley is now agreeing with me on the most underrated player in the last 10 years, Chris Paul of the Phoenix Suns.

Listen, early in the season, LeBron was MVP and Joel M.B. Then James Hardin was the MVP. You guys got to start giving my guy Chris Paul love for MVP, man. Y'all got to give my guy love for MVP. He was fantastic last night. He was fantastic all season. The problem, of course, is Chris Paul averages 16 points and 9 assists and does the little things as well as any point guard in my life.

It's very John Stockton. Plays defense, could score 1920, doesn't need to, bark at you, pressure. I mean, John Stockton and Chris Paul, you never ever hear anybody talking about John Stockton. He's arguably the second best point guard ever. Chris Paul's been the best pure point guard in the NBA 10 years. He's never a topic. Thank you, Charles. Where Colin was raw.

Gonzaga got hammered by Baylor in the title game and not only got beat, it was 11 to 1, 5 minutes in and it was over. Listen, I thought the Zag's offense was the best I'd seen in college in my recent memory. But both UCLA and Baylor got really aggressive, put a body in all their players, and took them to some degree out of the rhythm. UCLA to some degree. Baylor totally took Gonzaga out of their rhythm. And the Bears, not just one, I never thought they would just roll over. Gonzaga and they did. Where Colin was right? Well, we predicted a day before it happened that Sam Darnold would go to the Carolina Panthers and that's where he landed. In fact, we called it

twice once the day before. Listen, one of our leading reasons was they were just stuck kind of in the mud at quarterback. They were 7 and 9, 5 and 11, 5 and 11, and they have an aggressive billionaire owner. And the stories came out after the owner went to him and said, let's get better a quarterback. We're boring people. And that was my thing. Listen, these owners, you know, they'll tell you they love the plan. Until the plan gets boring and you're the most boring team in your division, and that's what they are.

And I think whether or not Sam Darnold succeeds, he is 23 and he's kind of the opposite of Teddy Bridgewater. He makes mistakes. He's really athletic. He's big and strong physically. So they'll be more talked about and more interesting. And I actually think with Robbie Anderson, he

fits this coaching staff. Where Colin was right? The one move at The NBA trading deadline I really like was Aaron Gordon, not a scoring machine, but he's a very athletic wing. He matches up with LeBron James, and he has been terrific. They are 7 and 1 since he arrived. He's averaging 12 points, but on 57% efficiency. Aaron Gordon is never going to be their leading score. That's not why you brought him over.

But he's, to me, what Utah could use your Portland. He's an athletic wing. You put him on LeBron. You make LeBron work for his points. And I thought it was the only trade deadline move that actually could change the playoffs. And Aaron has been exactly what he was in Orlando and the places he's been. But the difference is now you're watching him. And so now he's on a really good basketball team.

To me, the third best team in the league, it goes Lakers, Brooklyn, and then Denver. Where Colin was wrong. My mustache needs to be called out. It was an egregious affront to broadcasting. and when my dog started looking at me sideways, I knew it was just a bridge too far. And so last week I said, you know what?

That is not. No great broadcasters. I look like a magician. You do not. And I was like... I like the mustache look. You know what I looked like somebody that's going to come to your table in Caesars

and do a slight of hand trick? Look at that right then. My sister kept calling. You look just like dad. And I love dad. I want to look like me. You don't not look like someone that's going to have a really great pitch. Funny.

I am. Now, it may be to buy a Subaru. It's nothing that you want, but it's going to be a great pitch, though. That guy coming down the street has got a pitch. Yes. Can't wait. Colin right, calling wrong. Good to have you in.

Chris Broussard around the corner. It's funny watching that Laker Nets game. I watched about half of it. Boy, the Lakers are a physical basketball team. You know, everybody's like, oh, how is Andre Drummond going to defend it? And you start watching that game, you're like, well, how are the Nets going to defend Andre Drummond, and then Anthony and then LeBron, who were all good down low? Lakers are, if it was a tug of war, it'd be over.

Like, it's finesse and it is power, and the Lakers just, it was Baylor Gonzaga. It was like, you could tell Brooklyn was just not comfortable with the physicality. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays at noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential.

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I got a great dentist. I told everybody. And I called like a month later. There's nothing until like next April. Well, I mean, that dentist or doctor is supposed to take care of you if you're sending them referrals and make sure they get you in. It's not the way mine worked. Well, I found a grocery store. Not like I found it.

I knew it existed. Right. I now go there for lunch. It is so good. Los Angeles has more options in grocery stores than any city in America. They do. I mean, it is incredible. There's a thousand you've never heard of.

I'm not even going to say it. It is. I took my kids to lunch yesterday. I said, they wanted to go to lunch. And I'm saying, we're going to go to a grocery store. The desserts. It's very, like, when I say it's fancy, it's the fanciest grocery store you could ever go to.

Listen, I'm fancy pants over here. You are. I listen. When it comes. I, like, it's so fancy. I've never been inside. Like I drive past and I'm like, I think I'm allowed to drive past this. I think my status is at that level.

I can drive past the grocery store. It's very fancy grocery store. Oh, it is so good. Everything's, it's a freshness center. Everything's fresh. Everything was made eight minutes ago. Yeah, like it's as if they go to the farm literally themselves. You can hear the chickens in the back of the store.

Vegetable and then they hand deliver it. There's mooing in the dairy section. It's very, I, I, I, I, I, I, stopped going to grocery stores. I think you're making a big mistake. I've never been a huge grocery store fan. If I can do anything to eliminate a chore or like a task by just paying someone else to do it at this point. Well, you see it as a task.

I see it as an opportunity. I know. People love going to grocery. I know. I'm weird. Like most people enjoy going to a grocery store. Right after the show, grocery store. No.

There's people there. It had benches. I could have nap there and then got up and had another meal there. Definitely. That grocery store is definitely nicer than my apartment. Chris Brousard is now joining us Fox Sports NBA. Kind of rambling here, Chris. I'm sorry. He just got me all worked out. Interesting discussion.

I think I'm like most normal people. I'm in between you and joy. I don't love going to the grocery store, but I don't hate it. It's a necessary part of life, right? You may want to upgrade grocery stores there, my friend. That's all I'm saying right there. So Brooklyn Lakers. Now, I know it's a regular season game,

but we are getting to a later part of the year. You and I have talked about this before. Every good team has four or five regular season games that you look at and go, okay, that one said something to me. That said something. I watched the Lakers' physicality, and Vogel's a physical guy. He loves Biggs, and they get Andre Drummond.

And I watch, it felt a little Baylor Gonzaga, over the pretty offense in Brooklyn. Oh, it's pretty. I got to tell you, the way the Lakers kind of pushed at them and Schrooter and Drummond, didn't you take away something from that, Chris? Well, look, I'm hesitant to make too much out of this game. Because, look, last week when New Orleans beat a fully healthy Philadelphia team, did that mean anything?

No. I mean, they had Joel NB, Ben Simmons, and Tobias Harrison. They got beat. It meant nothing. The Clippers lost two weeks ago to Orlando. It meant nothing. So I don't want to make too much out of this game. All right.

I think it's one of 72, no big deal. I will give you this, though, Colin. The physicality was apparent, all right? Andre Drummond was just beasting Lamarcus Aldrey. And I've said it about Philadelphia. And they played later this week, I believe, Brooklyn and Philadelphia. They should just go inside with Embed against the nets, but they won't.

He'll be in there a little bit. He's posted up more than he's ever posted up. But most of his stuff is going to be 17 footers, you know, on the perimeter, which I think is not using their advantage against Brooklyn. The Lakers do have a formula, Colin, that I think will give Brooklyn trouble. Now, I've picked Brooklyn to win it, so we'll see. but I do think the Lakers have a formula that will give them problem. And that's drumming inside.

And that's LeBron controlling the tempo, not letting it get too fast. Playing controlling the tempo with the ball in his hands. And then they have that excellent defense. So turn it into a physical, nasty game. And Brooklyn doesn't want any of that. Brooklyn's the pretty boys. They want to shoot threes and dribble the ball like Marcus Haynes with Kyrie and all that stuff. If it gets tough and nasty, they really don't want any part of that.

Here's the challenge for the Lakers, though, Colin. LeBron and AD really haven't played a lot with a dominant inside player, right? LeBron usually likes the floor spread. AD, even though he doesn't want to be the five, he doesn't necessarily want somebody in there clogging up the middle. So they need to adjust to Drummond as well. there's some people think when they come back he'll only play 25 minutes well i mean i think you want those three playing together but it'll be an adjustment for them just like brooklyn has to adjust with its top players by way lakers have won five of eight without a d and lebron so give frank vogel and that

staff some credit they have adapted very well he's a good coach yeah yes yes he wait let's very good in the NBA you don't have players you don't win games spolstra key by the way eric spolster we both love LeBron left for a couple years, he didn't win. Then he got Jimmy Butler, then he won. Got to have players. It is interesting in the West where I think we both agree that Portland feels too small and they don't have the wing defenders. Same with Utah, although I like Utah.

I think Denver is a six. I think Denver pushes the Lakers. You like the Clippers Lakers. Why do you think the Clippers match up so well? Now, I do like Denver. I'll give you that with Aaron Gordon. I mean, they got hammered last night by Boston. it happens, but they're 7 and 1 with Aaron Gordon.

He's a nice fit. So they've gone up a notch in my view. But I think it's the Lakers and the Clippers as far as the two best teams. Because the Clippers have in all the things, there were three areas I wanted improvement in from them. And I've seen them. Number one, defensively, most of the season, they were like middle of the road defensively, which was ridiculous when you have Paul, George, and Kawhi Leonard, not to mention Pat Beverly, Serge, Ibaka, guys like that.

since the All-Star break, Colin, they've been a top five defense in the league. So I've seen the improvement on that end. That is huge. Then you bring in Rondo. What did they need? Leadership from a player standpoint, he gives you that, right? So now Kauai doesn't have to be something he's not, which is the leader. He just wants to go out there and play.

He can do that now. Paul George isn't the leader. Now it's Rondo, and you've even seen Paul George talk about that. The third thing was they were bad in the clutch, down the stretch of games. Now Rondo is a distributor. He gets the ball to the right guys in the right places at the end of the games. That game against Phoenix last week. In the fourth quarter, Rondo had eight points, three assists,

and was critical in the stretch run that blew the game open. He was getting it to Kauai and PG in the right places. He also hit a few threes. He's one of those players, Colin, where, He gets better when the stakes are higher. That's why he was no good in Atlanta. It didn't matter. Right.

Right? But now you bring him to the clippers and the stakes are high and he's playing well. So I think the clippers, I'm picking the Lakers in the West, but I think the clippers will give him a run for their money. Last three weeks, Zion has averaging 33 a game, 62% field goals, 40% from three, 11 free throw attempts per game. In the last three weeks, best player in the league, statistically.

I always hear this about Zion. He's good, but he is improving, Chris. Now he's point guard. I mean, I think people have to look around. He is, not only is he good, he's getting better at everything. He's adapting fast. Well, here's ball handling skills. And I know I talked to some people in New Orleans before the draft,

and they thought that he could be like a ball handler. They weren't calling him a point guard, but they were saying, look, this guy, he can lead the break, he can handle the basketball, he can pass. So they saw this already, and he's not a true point guard, but what you see, Colin, when you watch him, it's the variety of ways in which he's getting it done, especially for a guy that doesn't really shoot jumpers. So he's bringing the ball up the court and he's going downhill. Nobody can stop him. He's getting it on the wing. He's getting it on the elbow. He's on the post.

He's in the dunker spot under the basket. He's in the corner at times. He's in transition. Like, he is scoring in all types of ways. That's the first thing that's standing out to me. The second thing is that, as you say, as much as he's improved in these other areas, Colin, he's got so much more room for improvement. He's not shooting threes.

He's not really shooting jump shots. He doesn't rebound that much. he's not defending yet and so as he improves all of those things because you need two things for those things. Athleticism of course he's got it strength he's got it character so you work

on those things and it's important to you to improve on those he's got that so I think he'll get better in those areas and if he just can stay healthy and I know he's been healthy this year so maybe it's not an issue but if he stays healthy and improves on these things

keeps his athleticism for 10 years, then it's going to be tough to deal with him. And I'm looking to see him start. That's the next step, starting to win. Yeah. Next year we're going to be looking for them to win and make the playoffs. Yeah. He's got a very natural magnetism that Kauai doesn't have or Janus doesn't have.

And not very, by the way, most guys. Like Zach Levine's got all sorts of kind of game magnetism, but I don't necessarily think he's a winning player. I think to your point, there is something about Zion that jumps through the TV as power, his smile, his style, his personality. It's fun. It's fun to watch. Good stuff.

Chris Broussard. Thanks, bud. Yep. All right. Chris Brousard, who does not, like Joy, does not find grocery stores to be entertaining the least. But nonetheless, but I can't, I'm not going to say it because then you just be, everybody would be flocking there and then I can't get in.

And it was kind of empty. Well, I went three times this week into the same store. Once it was empty, the air to it was pretty busy. the air to it was pretty busy. I'm pretty sure they check to see how many followers you have before they let you in that store. That store is. It's a fancy store.

First of all, you're making it sound like it's boozy. They're like, do you have a black card? Because if you don't, you know what it looks like? You might not be able to afford vegetables here. You know what it looks like when I go into that store? It's a lot of hipsters. And hipsters aren't rich.

It looks like a lot of, it looks like a lot of like part-time actors. Everybody's slender and attractive. So they're putting together their dollars to buy orange. I mean, it's a lot of 24-year-old kids. I've never been in the store, so I don't know. Is it expensive or is, like, I'm assuming it's very fancy. Yeah, no, it's, it has valet in one of the spots I want to. No, but it's a lot of hipsters at it, and people don't buy a lot there.

Nobody goes and gets all. Yeah, there's nobody can afford it. Well, that's what I'm saying. It's, it's, nobody goes there for their groceries. You go there. For the experience. Well, no, you. Are there paparazzi outside of this?

No, no, no, no. You go there for your next meal. Nobody carries two. bags out of the store. You go there because the coffee and the bakery and the fish. So it's an experience. Oh my. It's incredible. Yeah. Well, I'm not, as I said, I like to have my groceries delivered so that I don't actually have to go to the grocery store. So you have a guy that goes and picks a can of corn, puts it in a bag and. I'm not a specific person, but I use like, I've been, I mean, I was doing that well before the pandemic. Like, I just don't, this is like

another thing I have to do. I'm not a huge errand person. Like, if I can eliminate errands throughout the week, I'm going to do it. Very interesting. You learn a lot. You learn a lot. lot about Joy if you listen to this show. Joy with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. I'd like to think that no matter how wealthy I get, I will draw the line at valeting at the grocery store. Wait, I didn't valet. They offered it, but I didn't take it. It seemed way too much for me. I've been to, I've been to grocery stores where I've wished they had it. Well, not grocery stores. Like, I've been to Walmarts during like the holidays where I'm like, yeah, this place could

use a valet. Listen, I took my wife Friday night to Ace Hardware. So don't, I'm not, no, I, listen, a lot of guys get their wife a glass of wine. I got her a ladder. I actually weirdly kind of like going to the hardware store because I never go. I go like twice a year. I could sit and look at grills for a while. I like walking around the plant section.

Yeah. A lot of good energy there. All right, anyway, Kyle Pitts is considered to be the best player in this year's draft. He won't go in the top three because of the quarterbacks, all expected to go to the Jags, Jets, and 49ers. But Atlanta could be targeting him at number four. Now, there have been reports that they could be trading down, get more picks. However, according to Peter King, a lot of people around the league feel like the Falcons will sit and take Pitts with the fourth pick. You could do worse. I don't, here's the thing with Pitts at the fourth pick. I don't think

it's a bad pick because I think Cal Pitts is the best overall player along with Trevor Lawrence in the draft. Those two to me are just obvious, great players. are going to translate to the NFL. Now, I'm not predicting that either of them would be Hall of Famers, but I don't think we need to do that yet. I think they're both going to work at a high level in the NFL.

So I don't think that's a bad pick. However, Atlanta just needs so much that I just don't know that it's necessarily the right thing to do, if that makes sense. Like, you're not going to lose with Kyle Pitts as a pick, but they were 19th in points allowed per game and 29th in yards allowed per game. Yeah.

And they were tied for. for 23rd in Sacks with 29. The obvious space where you need to build and get a game changer is on the defensive side. Now, maybe they don't feel like that person is available in the drafts or wherever they're going to trade back to. Well, not at four. Right. And not at four. But that's why, to me, it makes sense to move back.

But, look, again, like, I don't think you can lose either way. I think it's more logical to trade back and try and build your defense up. You know, it's funny. Like, you got to make sure the dream you're chasing is real. Yeah. And I think sometimes in the NFL, the dream everybody is chasing is not real. I'll give you an example. We got to get this young star quarterback.

Last 20 years. Average age of a Super Bowl winning quarterback is 31. Okay, that's like eight years in the league. Okay, that's the average. Now, Brady helped us out last year. But Mahomes, the year before, was like 22. There's this whole we got to get. I think the league is now overdrafting quarterbacks.

Now, think about Atlanta. You have Matt Ryan, 35, top 12 quarterback, great weapons. New offensive, clever coach. Does that scream, we got to get a quarterback? No, because Matt's going to have a really good year this year. It is insane. My old say it out loud theory. Say it out loud.

We have a top 12 quarterback getting an offensive coach, excellent young weapons, and pretty good offensive front. What do you need? A quarterback. No, you need a linebacker. You have one great defensive line. You need an edge rusher. You need two corners.

Are we getting to a point where we're just over-drafting quarterbacks? Also, what you should say out loud is how much you're going to have to pay Matt Ryan and what his cap hit is for the next two years. He's your dude. He's your dude. And by the way, there's like 25 guys worse than the league. Like, he's good. Yeah, I don't think Matt Ryan is great, but he is obviously more than capable.

We saw him in a Super Bowl with the right pieces. You're just not going to win when he's. You have to, when your team has to score 35 points every single game because your defense can't stop anybody, it doesn't really matter. Like, that's not going to happen every single game. Yeah. Sometimes they're going to have a good enough defense to stop your high-powered offense. Matt Ryan can't carry you to a Super Bowl, but give them a bunch of pieces. He can get you there, and we've seen it.

So the Eagles traded down from 6 to 12 in the draft, which seemed to show their commitment to Jalen Hertz in 2021. But they might not be out of the quarterback sweepstakes just yet, according to Jeremy Fowler. if a top prospect like Tray Lance or Justin Fields Falls Philly could try to move back up to get them He also said that people have spoken with around the league, believe the Eagles

could go for a quarterback somewhere in this draft either as insurance or competition for Jalen Hertz. I mean I just really can't with the Eagles I just can't. Like can you just commit to something, just commit just commit, just commit. You trade it back just commit, relax, see what you have

in Jalen Hertz and then figure out next year. Yeah, I mean, I think, again, let's be realistic about your dreams. Philadelphia is not a Super Bowl team this year. I think even their fans know it. What you need to identify first, because your goal isn't the Super Bowl. It's unrealistic goal. Your goal is, is Jalen Hertz a starting quarterback. Let's identify that. Same with Tua. Let's like. I'm sitting here thinking about Tua. I wish that the dolphins would have committed to him last year. Everyone was talking about Fitzpatrick was winning and he, you know, was coming off of a hip injury. I don't care about any of that. have to find out what you have in a young quarterback.

And in the Dolphins case, you're squandering this defense that you have while you're figuring out this quarterback situation. You didn't make the playoffs last year. So what was that worth? It's the same thing with Jalen Hertz. Just find out what you have in him. Sometimes you just have to take a year to see what you have. You got to do it.

Draft another quarterback. What are you doing? Joy with the news. Oh, are you done? Well, I had one more, but it's okay. Did I screw it up? The herd line news. What was it?

Well, I want to hear it. It was Sam Darnold. Okay, I want to hear it. Forget it. All right. Cut in. My bad. Well, he has a new home in Carolina.

He does. And he admitted that he has mixed feelings when he first learned about the trade. I mean, he has a new home, and he's with the Panthers now. He said, I imagine I was going to be the franchise quarterback of the Jets for a long time. And once you realize that the team that drafted you is moving on, it stings a little bit. To go from being unwanted to being wanted is huge. Getting that news that you're going to be traded as hard. But right now I feel great about it.

And I'm excited to get here and get started. I always, we've talked about this before. To be traded, we don't even understand what that feels like. I mean, listen, I don't think, I'm not a guy that loses a lot of sleep on what people think about me. But if Fox traded me to the Bravo network for two producers, I'm not going to lie. You'd be like, I don't know any good. You don't like me? No, it's a very, I thought it was a very human thing of him to say.

Because we do just talk about these trades. I just got traded here and there. It's going there. It's a better position for him. blah, blah, blah, blah. But there is a human element to it. All of us do this. We kind of romanticize where we are and who we're working for. And I think that's a very human thing to take pride in what you're doing. And if you work for a company, you're proud of the company you work for and you want to represent them to some degree. Because you're putting into them. Like the work

that you're doing is benefiting the company and you want to feel like you're a part of that. And that's the same with sports. It's not all like there's a human element to it. He wants to be a part of that organization. He's a part of that city. He wants to represent. He has teammates. And then for it to fall apart and be moved, it doesn't mean that it's the end of the world. Like, things change. And this is a part of that business. It's not a part of our business. We don't get traded.

So it's a part that we, you accept when you're in that business. But it doesn't mean it stings any less. Like, it's a human thing to go through. Yeah. I mean, it's funny. It's a little bit of a breakup. Yeah. And you get traded for parts and people to be named later and cash.

And it's like, I, it's like everybody always says they make a lot of money. Okay. if you make a lot of money and you're a baseball player, it doesn't make you any less tired because you're on 34 flights a year and have to land and play a four-game series tomorrow. Like, money doesn't make things not hurt. No, it makes it worth it. It makes it worth it.

But it doesn't mean, yeah, it still hurts. Like, your body is still falling. What if law firms and hospitals, we're going to trade that surgeon for an epidemiologist to be named later? Like, you wouldn't be like, am I you be constantly judging your value which is not healthy no and it is a part of the business but they make a lot of money yeah which is why people get to sensitize to it but there is a human element it's it's it's like a breakup it is there's no question yeah and a lot of times teams lie well don't get me started at it's I never understand the value of that joy with the news well that's the news and thanks for stopping by the herd lie news browns to the super bowl I'm reading the story this morning morning. It made me think it. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays at noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific.

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But just get into the playoffs now, that's a given with this roster. Cleveland's a playoff team. They're a playoff team. We've got a better roster than Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, and even a slightly better roster than Baltimore. They should win the division. If they don't win the division, what's the point of bringing Baker back? You can't pay $35 million for that.

Can't. I mean, I think they pay too much in Dallas for DAC, but DAC's probably going to win the division this year, and DAC's won a division in playoff game. So the bar has been raised. Judavian Clowny, he's going to be a Cleveland Brown according to these stories. You can't have the number one O line, the number one running back tandem, a competent head coach, free agents,

best pass rusher in football Miles Garrett. You got to be more than, hey, we got into the playoffs. And I suspect Cleveland, you know, Cleveland feels like to me, that's a Super Bowl roster. I think there's no question I'll pick them to win the NFC, AFC North. You'd have to. It would be ridiculous.

You know, you know, it's funny. about the schedules, I found out, I was thinking about it this weekend. I hate 17 games. Not for any reason except. It is so weird now. 17 games. So you're 9 and 8. Is that a good year? Like it was, if you did 9 and 7, you're like, that's a good year. You're a borderline playoff team. Nine and eight. You're basically a coin flip team. Like now, even like 10 and 7, it doesn't sound the same. You lost seven games. Like, it's weird.

What seven, they're just a little add another game and. Yeah, we're going to have to adjust how we evaluate. Yeah, like I was sitting there and look at it. I'm like, what does it mean if you're nine and eight? To be honest with you, you're basically a 500 team. You're a 500 team that hit a late field goal. That's what you are. You're a 500 team.

Nine and seven always felt like, all right, you're battling for a wild part spot. You're building on something there. You're building on something. So it's weird. And a lot of these Cleveland fans, and they're delusional. Listen, they think Baker's one of the two, three best quarterbacks in the league. But they're not delusional on their roster. It's a great roster.

Listen, if I was a Cleveland fan, you couldn't tell me nothing right now. That's what fans do. And they have a right to do it. Yeah. But they're all coming after me. Just say it. We're going to win the AFC North. Yeah, you should.

Yeah, you have best players. Yeah. And you should win the A. The AFC North. They're the best players. Only Kansas City has more quality top-end players in the AFC than Cleveland. You know, I was having this conversation last week. I wish there was a place where you could have, like, reasonable conversations with people without it becoming hostile or weird like it does on Twitter.

Because there's, like, no form anymore. You can. It's called. Instagram is insanity. Twitter is a vortex of madness. Don't get started on Facebook. They're like, where is? The place doesn't exist anymore.

Unless you're in person so you can, like, really emphasize the conversation and, like, use logic and, you know. Well, they're called friends. Yeah. That's the only place you can go. But I like interacting with fans, but it's just, it gets, it's impossible to have a nuanced conversation anymore. You can't explain yourself.

He's like, you say one thing and then people start, like, losing their collective minds. Are you using those filters on Twitter? They change. Yeah, no, no, I have it on. They're fantastic. Yeah, but other places don't have those yet. Well, I don't, I don't, I don't, read Instagram.

It's a good practice by you. Yeah, and I'm not on Facebook. Oh, yeah. Also probably good. That's very political I've been told. Yes, it's, well, where isn't anymore? Yeah, hour three next. One more herd.

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