The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 04/23/2021 - Best Of The Herd

Episode Date: April 23, 2021

Colin reacts to the Browns picking up Baker Mayfield’s 5th year option and why this means Mayfield still has a lot to prove this season. He defends Trevor Lawrence from the recent criticism as the NFL is now less than a week away. He shares some unfortunate news for Broncos fans as it looks like they are back in the market for a franchise quarterback. Plus, Super Bowl champion QB Drew Brees joins the show to tell Colin how he made it in the NFL despite being undersized.   Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's the herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, FS1. One hour from now, a sure fire, Hall of Fame lock, Drew Breeze of the Saints. A broadcaster soon will be joining us. hour from now, Alex Curry, sitting in for Joy Taylor again today. Drew's an all-timer. Great to see you. How are things? Oh, things are great. It's Friday. I'm feeling bright. I'm feeling happy, hoping to spark some joy today. Yeah, it's about nice 65 degrees in Los Angeles,

a little overcast, nice little chill in the air today. Speaking of chill, they're chilling big in Cleveland. I just saw this story. The Browns have picked up Baker Mayfield's fifth year option. Cleveland.com. That is where you go for your Cleveland Browns sourcing. And they are, it's Marty Grau in Cleveland. And I just want to say, hold on, it's a pendant. This is dating still. This is not marriage.

It's dating still. Let me give you a list of other quarterbacks who have had their fifth year option picked up. And I know what you're saying. Colin, you're being a jerk. Blake Bortles, RG3, Marcus Marioota, James Winston. It's a lot like Blake Bortles, by the way, and I'll get to that in a second. What this is is Cleveland saying, listen, you're good enough, you're still young. We're going to watch it for a few years, but we're just too good right now to blow it up at quarterback and start over again.

And next year's a lousy quarterback class. Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, in the same class as Baker, they're talking contract extensions. in Patrick Mahomes third off-season, they made him a 12-year $500 million deal. Baker got his fifth-year option picked up. So Mahomes had started just 31 games. In Kansas City, he said, we're going to make you the richest player in league history.

Baker had started 45 games, and they're saying, we like you, not in love yet, we like you, we want to see more. So the way I would put it, Mahomes, through 31 games, got a house, a couple of cars, a vacation home, a wedding, a baby, and part of the Kansas City Royals. Baker Mayfield got a necklace. It is not a franchise tag.

That's big money. That's like 37 million. It's not a long contract you're tied to for years and years. We play a game on this show called buy, sell, or hold. This is a hold. Not sure yet. See things that are promising. But there's two reasons why Cleveland did this and should have been.

done this. This is a Super Bowl roster. This is a top five roster in the NFL. I'd say three, some say five or six. This is a real roster. This is what Jacksonville did with Blake Bortles. Remember that Jacksonville team that was loaded? And they didn't love Blake Bortles, but he was good enough to win a playoff game. He was good enough to win a division. And so you're like, well, do we want to blow it up? Let's just run it out and see how far we can go. And in the end, Blake Bortles, You know, he won playoff games. Remember that Patriot game? They had him dead to rights, but he couldn't make the play.

And my guess is, that's kind of Baker. He'll get you close. This is a great roster. But remember, the NFL quarterback draft class next year is really weak. And so the sense is, we've got a Super Bowl roster. We're not really sure. We're not going to go Carson Wentz yet. We're not going Mahomes yet.

We're not going to talk extension yet. It is a hold. and that's exactly what you should do. If you look at the quarterback class next year and you look at what Baker's done and you look at what he's surrounded by, they're still moving pieces in Cleveland. They just got rid of Sheldon Richardson.

They just moved in Jadavian Clowney. My guess is by the trading deadline, they're going to move OBJ and shore up that linebacking course. So I like the move. But again, RG3, got a 50-year option picked up. So did James. So did Bortles. so did Marcus Marriota.

It just means we don't feel like starting over at quarterback. Because as you all know, even Andrew Luck in year one, even Trevor Lawrence in year one, Elway, Eli, Peyton, Brady, year one, you're not a Super Bowl quarterback. Trevor Lawrence will not be a Super Bowl quarterback. This is the right move by Cleveland. It's not a parade, but it's the right move. All right, I saw this. Matt Miller at NFL Draft Scout was talking about Mack Jones, Bama's quarterback.

Said the things you hear about Mac Jones are next level. One area scout who wasn't in the interview said his GM thinks Mac Jones is the smartest quarterback they've ever interviewed. That's, wow. Four point GPA in college graduated after three years. So he's pretty bright. Should be noted the last draft that had five. five quarterbacks to be drafted in the first round was that one in 2018. Does everybody remember who was the smartest quarterback?

Josh Rosen. And like Mack Jones, there were questions about sort of his athletic ability and his ceiling. Josh Rosen didn't work out. I don't need a neurosurgeon to be a quarterback. What I need is a baller, a gamer, physically can last, committed, passionate, and can get along with dudes. Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Harvard. and got a 48 on his wonder lick.

Highest for a quarterback ever. On the field, though, he lacks discipline. He's old school and makes really bad decisions. Jared Goff, believe it or not, I mean, he went to Cal. He had a higher wonderlick than Tom Brady and Aaron Rogers. And Jared Goff, the reason the Rams got rid of him, wasn't because he wasn't smart enough. The reason was is he makes bad decisions and turns the ball over too much.

The highest interception percentage in the last decade, Ryan Fitzpatrick and Jay Cutler, one went to Harvard and one went to the Harvard of the South, Vanderbilt. I think sometimes we forget smart means a lot of things. IQ, EQ. I've worked in the media for 30 years. I've worked with a lot of really, really bright people. And almost as a rule,

the smartest people have the lowest, you. They're harder to work with. They can be condescending. They know they're smart. They want to make you know they know they're smart. The bottom line, a phrase I've always used whenever I talk to anybody getting in this business. Are you smart enough? Joe Montana was smart enough. Tom Brady is smart enough. I don't know Nick Foles, Eli Manning, they're smart enough. People say Peyton Channing's a genius. I don't know. Eli's pretty smart.

He feels smart enough. That's the key. And what you also do, smart people tend to fall for smart people. That's why you ever seen where you have like really smart people and they fall for scams. And you're like, how do people fall for that? And then you find the scammer is actually pretty bright. Kyle Shanahan's really bright. Mac Jones, three years in college, 4.0 graduate.

is really bright. Right now, nobody's playing games. What you're doing for teams is talking, going to the white board, drawing up plays. Mack Jones is very, very attractive to very, very smart people. And since you're not playing now and you're just doing talking and writing up plays and, well, that's a time for a smart guy to move up the board. Anybody notice that Mack Jones, since the games have stopped, has flown up the draft board? and he's flown up the draft board.

What are the two teams? New England and San Francisco are talking about him. Who's the smartest coach in the league, Belichick? Who's probably the smartest young coach in the league? Shanahan. Many thought it was McVey a couple years ago, but Shanahan has owned him. Smart people are attracted to other smart people.

But smart enough is overwhelmingly the key in most businesses. Smart enough is not as condescending. It's not as, it doesn't create. the resentment sometimes in the room. I think Mack Jones could be really, really, really good. But it is interesting who's attracted to Mac Jones the most. And it looks to be Belichick and Kyle Shanahan, really smart cats who are attracted to Mac Jones

while he doesn't play and can talk. All right. Not that I don't like him. Not saying that. Smart is a trait. Just like Big Arm is a trait. Just a trait. of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern

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They say we can't polish a turd, but we're sure going to try. So let's get blunt with laughs, tears or tears of laughter, and dive into it, unfiltered and unbothered and ask, how hard can it be? I cannot believe I'm about to say this out loud in public. Listen to How Hard Can It Be with Diana Maria Riva as part of my Cultura podcast network available on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Scouts work really hard. They're in their car 200 days a year. They don't make a lot of money. I think they want to be heard.

You ever go to a doctor? I noticed this a couple of times when I went to a doctor during like the pandemic and all these Zoom meetings and I would have this very, you know, I would go to the doctor and he just wanted to talk. I felt bad for him. He was so over Zoom meetings. They just wanted to talk to somebody. And I think sometimes scouts want to talk. And assistant coaches, you know, they never get asked questions. It's always the star quarterback and the head coach.

So a lot of these assistant coaches, when they get asked questions, they just want to talk. They want to talk to somebody. They want to be heard. sometimes this stuff before the draft is just overwrought. So Tom Pellasaro, NFL Network interviewed a bunch of scouts and executives, and an AFC quarterback coach said, listen, if I'm comparing Trevor Lawrence to last year, Joe Burrow has picked over Trevor Lawrence 100 out of 100 times.

Oh, good hell. Trevor Lawrence is bigger. He's got a better arm. He's more prodigy than prospect. Burrow, we didn't know who he was. after an average junior year, after transferring, then he popped his senior year with the greatest collection of college talent

on one football team ever. The other thing about Trevor Lawrence, that's really impressive to me, and you see this a lot with the all-time greats, Trevor's been better longer. We knew about Bryce Harper at 16. We knew about Trevor at 17. We knew about Kobe at 18.

We knew about Kevin Garnett at 17. Most of your prodigies are not late-developed. They're really not. Joe Burroughs a late developer. We knew about Elway in high school. Trevor Lawrence in high school. Andrew Luck is a freshman at Stanford. Trevor's 21 years old. He has been in the spotlight. This is really attractive to me. He's been in the spotlight three, three and a half years. I saw him in high school. Not a stumble. That's very Andrew Luck. It's very LeBron James. Johnny Mansell was in the spotlight for six months and he fell apart. James Winston was in the spotlight for a year and a half at Florida. State. He couldn't handle it. Baker Mayfield was a hot shot for about a year at Oklahoma, made a series of gaffs. Part of being an all-time great, can you handle the magnifying glass? Because you're going to have articles, you're going to get more coverage, you're going to get more scrutiny. And I find this true in America. We're very good. We always value people who rise to the top. It's a great story. But we always undervalue how hard it is to

to stay at the top and maintain a clean resume. It's hard. The most impressive thing about Derek Jeter to me is not his 305 lifetime average. 20 years in New York is a single guy. He never got in trouble. Eli Manning, 15 years in New York City, never stumbled. With the New York media, it's vicious, it's everywhere, it's harsh. Like, it's not just rising to the top.

I've worked with people my whole career who get great jobs. Few keep them. It's hard to maintain it. The scrutiny, the magnifying glass. Baker Mayfield came in, got a bunch of commercials and did a lot of idiotic things for the next year and a half. Cleveland now is not giving him an extension. And my reason is they still want to see him now off success. They know he was good after he had a bad year.

How is he going to be off success? Because the last time he got drafted off success, he ran and did 15 commercials. Without doing anything, he had more commercials than wins. So Cleveland's now giving him a fifth-year option pickup, but they want to see, all right, now you're a playoff guy. Can you handle it? I mean, he admitted he didn't come in great shape off his last success. He came in lumpy doing commercials all off-season.

So what I like about this kid, beyond his talent, is he's been in the spotlight. He's been the annoyed number one for three years. No stumbles. No stumbles for Bryce Harper, no stumbles for LeBron, no stumbles for luck. This is not a late bloomer. This kid has been, we've been staring at him. He's been on magazine covers for three years. Been a great citizen.

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or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.

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Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do a little kill? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s.

To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. so I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really?

Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva, actress, mother, lover, and a Gen X woman walking through life, one hot flash and hormonal crying drag at a time. You ladies know what I mean. I'll bet you a perimenopausal chin here you do. So let's talk about it.

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I was married when I had her, so I didn't even consider how empty that nest was going to be. Swings, night sweats, fupas, sex drive. Wait, what sex? Dating at 45. How hard can it be? Getting naked at 50 with the new guy. That one's kind of hard.

Well, that's lighting. They say we can't polish a turd, but we're sure going to try. So let's get blunt with laughs, tears or tears of laughter, and dive into it, unfiltered and unbothered and ask, how hard can it be? I cannot believe I'm about to say this out loud in public. Listen to How Hard Can It Be with Diana Maria Riva as part of my Cultura Podcast Network available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So where you don't want to be in the NFL, we know it's a head coach quarterback league,

Drew Breeze, top of next hour. You know, the reason the Saints with Breeze were always in championship form because they had the right coach and quarterback, same with Brady and New England. It's why back-to-back Super Bowls, Mahomes, and Annie Reid have been there. There are teams in the NFL that have the head coach right, but they can't find the quarterback. Minnesota, to me, I think Zimmer's a second. Super Bowl winning coach. I really do. I don't think you can win it with Kirk Cousins. That's not that he's bad. There are other teams that have the quarterback right, and you don't know if the coach

is right. But Denver's in the no man's land where they're not sure if they have the right coach or the right quarterback. George Patton is their new GM. I've been told from my sources, he's a bright, bright guy. And he said, listen, we got Drew Locke. Here's where we're going with quarterback. I don't know about week one. We're really high on Drew. I like seeing Drew here every morning when I come in. He's working hard. He's trending in the right direction. As you know, he has a lot of talent. I think he's becoming a better pro, but we're going to still look at the quarterback position. I've said since I got here, we want to bring in competition, and that's the goal, and we plan on doing that. Listen, there's about seven teams in the league where I think the head coach

and the quarterback, you got the right people. They're good enough to get to a Super Bowl. Win it, who knows? But Kansas City, Green Bay, Buffalo, Seattle, Tampa, Baltimore, San Francisco. Now, we don't know the future of Jimmy Garoppolo, but two years ago, Kyle and Jimmy got there, so I'm going to include them. I think there's another six or seven teams, maybe eight, that I like the coach. I think the coach is right. I'm not sure if the quarterback is right. Colts. I don't know what Carson Wentz is. I got to watch. Steelers. Tomlin's gotten to Super Bowls. Big Ben is no longer in his prime. I think Tomlin is still as as good as he had ever been. Rams, we know that Big Bay is great. I don't know if Stafford. Big Ben,

every week, that division, I want to watch. I think he's good enough. Remember, they're paying him a lot. When Jared Goff got to a Super Bowl, he was making nothing. So Stafford comes in with a big salary that limits your offensive line. Saints, Tennessee, Washington, Miami, New England. I think the coach is right. I don't know if the quarterback is.

Then there's about three teams where I think the quarterback is good enough to get to a Super Bowl. The Chargers, Arizona, and Atlanta, one, Matt Ryan already has. I don't know if the head coach is good enough. I don't, we'll see. Cliff Kingsbury, I've got my doubts. Atlanta, rookie head coach, Chargers, rookie head coach. But I think the quarterback, you know a lot of you bang on Matt Ryan, I have, but he got to a Super Bowl won an MVP, right, coach he's good.

Denver's kind of in that no man's land, which is Vic Fangio. Well, he's supposed to be a defensive guy, but the defense was terrible last year. And Drew Locke, I don't buy. So you start getting into a category where you're in the same category as the Eagles and the Jets. Yeah. Now, you may be better than them and have more talent than them, but that's the category now you're in. Nobody knows if you've got the quarterback or coach. And what does that tell me? You have to draft a quarterback. You have to draft a quarterback. And now, I don't believe Denver's going to move up in the draft because I trust what I've read so far from various sources is that Denver holds Tray Lance and Justin Fields in the same. regard. They like them both. They think they're super athletic, but need time to grow.

So if you like them both, even if Atlanta takes one, the three teams after Atlanta don't appear to be teams taking quarterback. Cincinnati's not taking a quarterback. Miami's not taking a quarterback. Detroit can pretend they're going to take a quarterback, but it would be stupid. Now, Detroit can be stupid, but Jared Goff is super expensive for two years and you have needs everywhere. Goff needs protection. Rebuild the O line. It needs a lot of work. So for me, Denver can sit there. And Denver, by the way, may look at Kellyn Monde and have him just below Trey Lance and think,

we'll get him in the next round because Kellen Mons going to be somewhere taking top eight or nine picks in the second round. The team that I think is going to move up is New England. Unlike Denver, they've got multiple teams in front of them. It's a long way back at 15. I think New England moves up. And my guess is they trade with Detroit. there are New England, Detroit ties in the front office, or Carolina.

I do know that Matt Rule, Belichick, smart guys, there's something there. So I think New England's moving up. I don't think Denver is. But they are really in a no-man's land. They may be better than the Jets in Philadelphia. But if you don't know today if your coach is the best, I mean, if you look in that division, Vic Van Gio's not Andy Reid, and to this point in his career, he's not John Gruden. So we don't know what Staley is.

But you're kind of in a spot there. you got to make a move. First or second round, Denver's got to make a move in a quarterback. All right, Drew Breeze is coming up next. Haven't talked to Drew in a while. We knew he was going to retire. He did smartly. He's got his broadcasting career.

Olympics, college football, some NFL. He's going to be doing it with NBC. A little jealous. I'm not going to lie. He's great. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart Radio app.

Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. My staff will give me a list of who's coming on and then they'll put their accomplishments. And then they'll put the questions. The questions are usually way longer than the accomplishments. In Drew's case, I've got six pages of accomplishments, and I don't really need questions. I'll figure that out. 20 NFL seasons, Super Bowl champ. I've always said he's one of the eight great quarterbacks of my life.

And that's a unique club. I don't have, believe it or not, I don't have far than that. and that's how good my club is. I mean, what I care about, which is efficiency, pre-snap, all that stuff. He's one of my favorite players in the history of the league. Drew Brees is joining us. He'll probably blush and say, would you stop it already? God, give me a break on this stuff.

All right, here we go. So, you know, it's funny. I'm looking at all your records. And I just said before you got here, I'm like, what doesn't he hold? You're not really a records guy. You're a win guy. You're not about the numbers and stuff. if you're a win guy.

But is there one stat, Drew, that you look at and you're like, I'm proud of that. That one means a lot to me. Well, that's a tough question. I think the statistics that just show consistency over a long period of time, because I think that that's what you strive for. I think that that's what drove me each and every offseason and each and every season was how can I get better? How can I continue to, you know, become more efficient?

How can I be a better leader? And, you know, you just, man, even to the most minute details of how that might change your routine or your approach, you know, for each and every season. Because, you know, like coming off a season in 2011, you know, where we threw for 5,476 yards, right, broke the all-time yardage mark. You have to kind of sit back and say, wow, there was a lot. a lot of things that had to fall into place in order to hit those numbers, you know? And will we ever have a season like that again from a yardage perspective? Probably not. And so it's not like you come out the next season and say, all right, I'm trying to throw for more yards than I did the year before. It wasn't about that for me. It was just how can I be more consistent? How can I be more efficient?

How can I improve upon so many of the little things that just might result in one more win here, one more win there to help us achieve the ultimate goal. You know, it's interesting. Years ago, my first job out of college was in Vegas, and I was going through a fast food drive-through years ago, and Andre Agassi was in front of me, and he had this big, fancy car. And I'm thinking, didn't he just win like the U.S. Open?

He's eating fast food at Taco Bell like me. But it was a long time ago, okay? I'm an older guy, right? And then, and I remember talking to him about that. He goes, man, I burn so much. She goes, I'm eating all day. So you've played long enough where about halfway through your career, Drew, the nutrition thing became a real talking point. Or did you come out of Purdue and were you already into that stuff?

Or did the longevity part, the diet part halfway through your career? Because I hear about Russell Wilson now and I think, well, of course he does it because everybody does it now. They eat right. But go back to your early career and your late career. Was it different? all the efficiency stuff, the diet stuff, the nutrition stuff. Yes. It became much more of a priority, I would say, right around year 15, I think, for me.

Now, I mean, listen, I wasn't eating fast food every day prior to that, you know, but I was probably a little more loose with certain things. And I think you just, listen, father time wins at some point. You know what I'm saying? And so you try to avoid that as long as you can and try to gain every edge possible, especially as you get older in your career. Because listen, the fact is it takes longer to recover from your training. It takes longer to recover after a game.

And so the quicker you can get back onto the field playing at that high level, the greater edge that you have. And so that's when I think I began to really start. paying attention to all the information about diet and just how important that was and all the information about sleep and all the information about recovery. And then you really begin making that part of your routine, just like you would go into practice or going in the weight room or the actual work itself, the recovery became just as important or more important. And so I would definitely say that became a huge priority, especially over the last five years of my career.

You know, you probably helped more than any. You have a have a Steph Curry quality. Steph Curry's gotten guys drafted. I mean, Trey Young gets drafted because of Steph Curry. You were the guy that wasn't six four. And so I always think a lot of guys have said, well, he's kind of like Drew Breeze. That's always the fallback. Somebody the other couple years ago, they say he's going to be the next Drew Breeze. And I was like, give me a break. There is no next Drew Breeze. He's 101. Give me a break. But it makes me think, who were you compared to the month before the draft? Who were you getting? Fran Tarkintinters? I mean, who? Who? Yeah. So here's the irony. You know, if you would have, if you would have asked me prior to me getting drafted, maybe kind of going up through high school and college, who I most maybe tried to emulate or thought that I was most similar to in regards to my playing style or who I was trying to be, I would have said Doug Flutie. Wow.

Doug Flutie. And ironically, I get drafted the San Diego Chargers in the second round. I guess who'd start. Doug Flutie. And so I can honestly say that Doug was so influential for me early in my career. He was such a great mentor. He was one of those guys who I really feel like did not get the credit he deserved as a player. And, you know, hence his journey, right? He comes into the NFL.

And yet so many question marks and doubts based on his size, right? He was five, nine and a half, five, ten. maybe. So he has to go to Canada and just keeps winning, keeps balling, gets an opportunity to come back to the NFL, Buffalo bills for a few years. Then he comes to the Chargers, and that's where I had a chance to spend four years with him. But Doug was doing things back then that nobody was doing. I know. Listen, Doug Flutie invented the back shoulder throw, or at least the, certainly the term that we use in regards to back shoulder. Doug was doing that before anybody was talking about it.

He doesn't get credit for that. But I'm telling you, I know I developed that skill from being with Doug Flutty. And that's a skill that carried me through my whole career. I don't have those records you just read off if it wasn't for Doug Flutie or the back shoulder throw. So that's just one small example of what Doug meant to me in my career and how he was a real pioneer. And he was a real trailblazer. And listen, it was an honor for me as I kind of went through my career. I remember when Russell Wilson came out in 2012.

And I think there was a lot of comparisons starting to be made about him and me, really based on size. athleticism, you know, that kind of thing. And Russell even came out and said it. Hey, Drew Breeze is one of the guys I watched. And that was a big honor for me thinking, man, I never thought that I'd reach a point in my career where I've got guys coming out saying, yeah, I'm emulating my game after him. Or, you know, this guy, because of his size and what he's been able to achieve,

has now opened some doors for guys like me. But I take great pride in that. But I'll say, I'll be the first one to tell you that there were guys that came before me that were that influential for me. You know, it's funny, I was saying before you came on, I said, everybody needs a kingmaker. And, you know, you were overlooked by a lot of people. You know, Nick Saban would be coaching in the NFL now

if the team doctor had let Nick Saban have you. He would not be at Alabama. The football world would not look the same today. But then you find Sean Payton, and he's your kingmaker. You finally have a driven aspirin. operational, brilliant guy. Go back to the first time you met him. Where was the moment for you, Drew?

Maybe you're driving home to your family. Maybe it's a practice where you thought, okay, I found my guy. That this is different, that you just knew. It may not have been a game, but you were sitting there thinking, God, I've worked my whole life for this. I found my guy that cares as much as I do. And he gets me. He appreciates me.

He gets me. Do you remember that moment? Well, that was very quick. And honestly, it was probably one of the first meetings we ever had in person. When I came, when I was going through that process with Miami and New Orleans, when I came to visit the New Orleans Saints, I remember walking into our offensive staff room at the time. It was just me and Sean. And he literally was drawn plays on the board, which basically was kind of a beginning of an offensive install. Like, hey, this is the kind of stuff we're going to do. This is the system I run. And just to begin to. to give me a preview of what that was. Well, he started drawing up all the plays that were my favorite plays from the San Diego Chargers. And I said, wow, you all run the same, you know, scheme or a lot of these same plays. And he said, no, I've never done these before, but I know you do them and you do them well. And we're building this thing around you. And I just kind of sat back in my chair and I thought, wow, you know, for a young first time head coach,

coming from the Dallas Cowboy organization to the New Orleans Saints, which obviously was in disarray at the time, post-Katrina and a bit of the dysfunction that had taken place there for the previous, you know, five, six years. I thought he would be coming in with this parcel, my way, your highway, like, this is my system. You're going to learn it. You're going to run it, you know.

But it was very much a collaboration. It was very much him looking to me and saying, man, we're building this thing around you. We're going to do what you're great at. And for me, that's when I immediately felt like this is the match. Oh, that's great. Hey, by the way, Drew is going to be part of the GM of the Lowe's home team. That's a good company, by the way.

I go there a lot. A group of players, Lowe's Associates, nonprofit organization coming together to give back and help make homes better for all in the communities around the country. Talk about it, Drew. Yeah, so I'm GM of the Lowe's home team here in 2021. It's just like you said, a combination of players and Lowe's associates. and profit organizations, just make our communities better. Lowe's has been involved a lot of really unique renovation projects, building projects,

special projects around the country over the last few years. We were able to help them distribute over a million Christmas trees last year to families and communities. So really a great campaign and excited to be a part of it. Well, you're a great storyteller. That means you're going to be a great broadcaster because that's mostly what it is. I couldn't be happier for you. An honor to watch you.

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