The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 04/26/2021 - HOUR 3 - Draft rumors

Episode Date: April 26, 2021

Colin discusses the latest NFL Draft rumorsGuest: Bruce Gradkowski Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Tommyjohn.com code heard. Oscar ratings were down 60% this year. I watched the Dodgers Padres. In Los Angeles, if you could get Dodgers podrays of the Oscars, I'm telling you, Dodgers Podres, I guarantee it took some numbers away. last night. The movies last year. At all.

I saw one of, two of them. So it's harder, I think, for people to be invested in who was going to win. The best thing I saw all year was a documentary, the octopus teacher. You love that. It won. Best thing I saw all year. I saw Nomad Land. I saw Chicago 7.

Octopus teacher was the single bad. I made my kids. I'm like, you guys have to watch this. I'm going to watch it. Incredibly touching. Everyone that watches it loved it. You want to know a true story. This is horrible.

Is it what I asked you this morning? So I'm watching the octopus teacher is about an octopus. He's telling me about this this morning and I asked him this. So we're sitting there watching as a family and I'm not ready that hungry about my wife's ordering to go food. And I'm not even paying attention. And I said, just order. Give me a Mediterranean salad, blah, blah, blah. I forget about it.

It takes an hour to get there. I open it up. It's got octopus in it. I couldn't eat it. Seriously. I couldn't. I'm watching this octopus. Fight for its life on the screen.

and I literally open it up and my salad at octopus, I'm like, I'm out. I didn't throw it away because it was too expensive, but I'm like, I can't eat this. I asked him this morning. I was like, is it going to make me not want to eat octopus? I love octopus. And that's what he says. That's a call on set. Don't order it the night that you're watching.

I literally opened it up and saw a baby octopus. And I'm like, I can't. Ethically, I can't. My wife is just like. I don't know. It was a baby octopus. It just looked like a baby octopus. Well, it was just that little octopus.

Oh, yeah. Oh, well, octopus is delicious, but I was still going to watch. wasn't even morally split. I just closed the goat. I think I said, you know what? Wasn't that hungry anyway? I can't eat it. I literally can't eat it. It's so ironic that that's like what you order on the night you watch that. Bruce Grankowski played in the NFL for 11 years. He is now a pro football-focused senior analyst. He breaks down all this stuff. The draft is starting Thursday. He watches us or joins us, I should say. So we go back and forth and all this stuff. I will say the one quarterback, Bruce, that I do think

Because I think all these kids are somewhat dependent on who they land with, where they land. You know, I mean, when you went to college, if you got a terrible coach and a terrible coordinator, you know, unless you're an Andrew Luck or something or a Warren Moon or a Dan Marino, you know, the bottom line is most kids can't overcome bad coaching. Zach Wilson worries me. His numbers were great with BYU's weakest schedule in a decade. he's not real big. I hear he has a great arm,

but he's going to be asked to play immediately behind a bad offensive line in New York in a very well-coached defensive division. And you tell me, as the pro football-focused senior analyst, any concerns about Zach Wilson when you watch him? He's kind of a guy that, he's got a little Johnny Mansell. He'll run around and make stuff happen. Well, I think, Colin, that's a great point about the division he's in.

I mean, he's going to get thrust into the action fast. The thing I like about Zach Wilson, when I watch these guys on film, he's very instinctual. He's a natural football player, and he's a natural thrower of the football. And to me, that's where my confidence lies. Look at him how he navigates that screen pass and finds a window to complete it. So this guy is just a very natural football player, and that's why I have confidence that he will adapt to the game. I don't care where he played and who he played against. I just see on film those natural instincts.

And you can play at any level and you can see natural instincts. And he has it. And he flicks it. It's just natural. His body, his legs, his arm. It all works together. Just a smooth delivery. So of course there's some risk with it.

But I do like him as a football player, not just a quarterback. He's a guy that I think has a feel for the game. But it'll be fun to watch if he can succeed because you said it, man. It's going to be a tough division. good coaching in that division. He's going to play right away in New York. And does he have the weapons around him to succeed? But I like the coaching staff he'd be with the Jets.

But like all these young quarterbacks, there comes risk with these guys. So Trey Lance, you don't have a lot of film on him. What do you make it? Now, there's a story this morning. The Niners, listen to this. It was a podcast, Adam Schefter. The Niners moved up with the idea to take Mac Jones.

But in the last month, evaluating and not. meeting Tray Lance, the decision has now been made much tougher. And there's a lot of back and forth. But Tray Lance is the guy we have the least film on. From the film you saw, what do you see? I mean, he's a big guy. He can process things. He gets through progressions great. He plays a lot under center. So he's operating more of an NFL-type offense. And you see his athleticism. I mean, he's more athletic when you watch him on film than you'd expect. So he makes a ton of plays with his legs. I just have some concern about his accuracy. I think he could be better in that sense. The windows will be a lot tighter at the NFL game.

But look, Colin, this is the day and age, NFL quarterbacks. They have to have some athleticism. And Tray Lance brings that. The concern, he didn't throw it a lot at school. The tape on him this past season one game, he tried to press in that game. So high risk, high reward with this guy, but I do think he can process, learn your NFL offense, and execute it, and he has upside with his arm, with his athletic ability. So I think he does make good decisions. And he's a guy that you could take a risk on because, man, high risk, high reward with this one. So with Mack Jones, when you look at tape, everybody says, oh, he throws an accurate ball.

But when you don't have a lot of pressure because you have a great old line and you're throwing the guys who were wide open because they're top five picks in the NFL draft. I think the evaluation on Mack Jones, it's like, I mean, nobody's throwing to more talented wide receivers. He had Sarks as coordinators. You've got an NFL coordinator in college. He had great protection. He had Najee Harris, who's a terrific running back, first or second.

When I look at Mac Jones, it's going to be a lot easier winning at Alabama than it would be in a lot of these NFL cities. some concerns that he played with such great college talent. He wasn't pressed very often. Well, I think it's, you know, same thing you brought up with Trey Lance, right? There's more to the quarterback position than just the X's and O's, just operating the offense. And the reason Trey Lance, you're hearing his name circulate more, how impressive he is, right? Learning the offense being that guy that, hey, he could lead our dudes in the locker room.

Same thing with Mack Jones. And I think there's a lot that we look at the film and we want to talk, is an o's and arm strength and physical ability, but the guy can process it. He's quick twitch. He could get the ball of his hands fast and accurate. I think that screen game, the Niners operate, he can fit in perfectly with them. He doesn't bring a lot of upside as far as extending plays and making plays with his legs. And that's the concern right there. I mean, his ceiling is his ceiling. But there's more to play in this position than just the physical abilities. And I think with Mack Jones and Tray Lance, you see that where, man, these guys can elevate the guys around

them. And that's what I want in a quarterback. And that's what we saw Tom Brady do when he went to Tampa Bay. So I think that's what's interesting about Mack Jones. Super accurate this past season. You said it, Colin, he has all kinds of weapons, that offense, offensive coordinator. They set him up for success. But I do like how he transitioned and will transition to the NFL.

Love his quarterback coach, David Moore. They do a really good job with quick twitch type mechanics within the pocket. So I think Mack Jones is athletic enough within the pocket to navigate it and make plays, get through Reed's progressions. But I think he's a high risk taking him that high. But, I mean, look, if I'm any of these quarterbacks calling, I'm praying my name gets called at number three with the Niners because of what Kyle Shanahan can do and how he can set the quarterback up for success.

When you go back to Tua's film last year, which you looked at, and like a Justin Fields or a Trey Lance, I mean, Tua doesn't have a big arm. He's smaller than all of them. He's not super mobile. Like if Tua was in this draft and you were looking at all these guys tapes, where would Tua be? You know, it's tough because you said it. Tua doesn't have the biggest arm, but there was some instinctual plays I would see from Tua on film that I like, that I felt like he was a football player. He can react and make plays. I think he needs another year. I would like to see him have a year where there's not another guy around him. See how much he can progress and make that adjustment in his second year in the NFL. But I don't know if he'd be atop any of these guys right now because physically, these guys coming back adjusted fields, Trey Lance, the abilities they have,

Zach Wilson, Trevor Lawrence, of course, physically they seem to be better. But I'll tell you what, Tua is very instinctual. made some great plays in college. I want to see that more in the NFL. I want to see him adjust to the speed of the game. And that'll be the biggest adjustment. Look, if I'm Miami and I know I played the quarterback position, but I would draft another guy. Honestly, I would. I'd love to see Tua, like I said, have a year with no one else around him, no quarterback in that room vying for his position to see how much he can grow. And the Dolphins have draft capital for the years to come to kind of now figure out your quarterback that's not Tua. But to me, it's

If you don't know for sure he's your guy, I don't think there's anything wrong with taking another one and letting them fight it out, man, and see where you go. Because we look around the league and that's the biggest need. That's the biggest thing teams need to take the next step is that quarterback position. So if you're not sure, draft one again. Pro football focus senior analyst, Bruce Radkowski, we're on the move. Bruce, good seeing you again. Hey, great seeing you, brother. You always look good.

I think I've said it. The Tua thing is, listen, there's so many good teams. I mean, think about the Kansas City Chiefs. This is what Tua has to get through to get like win playoff games. The Kansas City Chiefs in the last month and a half, look what they've done to their offensive line. Orlando Brown, Pro Bowl left tackle. Joe Tuni, Pro Bowl Guard.

Austin Blythe, Center. Kyle Long. By the way, you notice where all these offensive linemen come from. New England, Rams, Patriots. And then Kyle Long. Oh, winning culture, smart guys. I mean, when you're going up again, forget Mahomes and all their weapons. The good teams in this league like Kansas City, Kansas City is going to have five new position starters on the offensive line.

And they went out and got one of the best left tackles, one of the best centers, one of the best left tackles, left guards, and Kyle Long and moved Mike Remmers over to the right side. like the wall, the fortress of, I mean, Kansas City has been back-to-back Super Bowls. So, I mean, if I'm Miami, I'm sitting there thinking I could like to a, you have got to be so special. The Dolphins beat one playoff team last year, one at home off a buy. So, you know, again, when I look at these quarterback, like to me, I would take Trey Lance over Mac Jones, because my takeaway is, if I got to go up in the NFC and I'm San Francisco, I got to go up against Russell Wilson and Aaron Rogers.

That's what I have to get through. Just those guys? Matt Stafford now's got the Rams. That's what I've got to go through. And you've given me Mack Jones, who I think has a, you know, it's a fairly well-documented low ceiling to me. If I don't have to play a guy for a year, and by the way, Shanahan is going to make anybody better, right?

It's going to make Mac Jones or Tray Lance better. but wouldn't it be better if your quarterback didn't have a low ceiling? To me, it's just, if you don't have to play either of it, if you don't want to play Garapolo, because what San Francisco could be thinking is, we don't want to play Garoppolo much because if he gets hurt and he always does, he has no trade value. So San Francisco could be thinking, we'll give him September,

and we'll make a move before the trading deadline fast. And they may be thinking, Trey's great, but we don't want to wait a year. I mean, in that San Francisco building, remember this, they may just want to get rid of Garapolo now. And Max the advantage now, because he can play now because he played in a pro system with a pro coach in college and a pro coordinator in college. That's the argument is that if you really are done with Garapolo,

you're just done with him and you don't want to play him because he's been hurt three of the last four years in September. And you're like, we're going to get nothing from him if he gets hurt. I mean, if he gets hurt, he has no value. I mean, literally is the backup in the league. You can't bring Jimmy Garoppolo in if he gets hurt. So the Niners could be doing the Mac Jones thing thinking, listen, we just want a guy that's upright for three years.

We'll go come back and revisit quarterback, but we can't. I think that's part of the Mac Jones allure is he can play now. We have to focus on your division first. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.

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Fernando Tatis Jr. hit two home runs off of Trevor Bauer and copied some of Bauer's signature celebrations as he rounded the bases. I love this. But Bauer had no problem with Tatea celebrating his success. And I like it. I think that pitchers who have that done to them and react by throwing at people, I think it's pretty soft. If you give up a homer, a guy should celebrate it.

You know, it's hard to hit in the big leagues. So I'm all for it. And I think it's important that, you know, the game moves in that direction. We can have fun and we can celebrate it while we're still competing at the highest level. Thank you. Only been saying this my entire life.

It's, you know, it's interesting. I grew up with Mickey Rivers and Pete Rose and Mark Fidrich and Al Roboski. All very low-key personalities. They were all nuts. One guy talked to the baseball, and something happened during the steroid era where pitchers felt they were being showed up

because all the hitters were on juice and the pitchers were like, okay, you can hit 8,000. hundred-yard home runs off us, but I don't want you bat flipping because you're cheating, and we know you're cheating. And I think there was a point where pitchers were like, because a lot of pitchers didn't want to take roids because I thought it would screw their arm up. And so I think pitchers said about 15 years ago, because that's when it really got ridiculous.

You couldn't even look at your home run. And I've heard this by baseball writers and baseball people say, listen, 15 years ago, pitchers were like, okay, you're all taking Jews and cattle steroids and hitting bombs and we can't get you out. Okay, fine, because we're all getting rich here. but don't show us up. It was a bit of an overcorrection, which happens in life. You know, we go swinging to a whole other side

and eventually it comes back to the middle, which is hopefully where we are arriving now. We've been dealing with this for the past couple years. It becomes a big, huge thing. Last year, Tatea caused some controversy because he hit a grand slam on a 3-0 pitch with a seven-run lead against the Rangers, and that was a big deal.

But it's supposed to be fun. Sports is supposed to be fun. As Trevor just said, it's very hard to hit a home run in the big leagues. It's supposed to be the hardest thing to do in sports. Can you celebrate a little bit? Can we have a little fun? Can we enjoy the sport that we're playing? Can the fans celebrate?

The fans are jumping up and down. Why wouldn't the players be able to do it? And also, the sports very international now. Yes. Other baseball cultures. Don't be scared to sprinkle a little culture in your sport. If you watch the world baseball classic. It's the best time I've ever had at a baseball game in my life.

And by the way, those are different cultures. Yes. So a Cuban player may be much more celebratory, a Dominican player. But the fans, like the World Baseball Classic. But those are bat flipping in that stuff. Yes. Oh, and it's loud. It was the best baseball environment I've ever been in.

It was at Marlins Park in Miami, World Baseball Classic. And I couldn't believe it. I'm like, this is, why aren't all baseball games like this? Everyone's sitting around with their headphones in. Like, could we just enjoy the sport? I'm glad that he said that. It's exactly where it should be. If you don't like to celebrate, don't celebrate.

If you like to celebrate, celebrate, celebrate. It's just like any other sport. Be what your personality is. And let guys do that. And fans like it. And we're in a social media era. You want to see more exciting, engaging stuff. It's just going to bring more fans in.

So you were just discussing what the 49ers are going to do. They're obviously taking quarterback with a third pick, but there's a lot of questions that are left for what happens with Jimmy Garoppolo when they do that. So according to Peter King, San Francisco could make Jimmy G even more available than he has been after they draft their next quarterback. They've been pushing to get a first round pick for him. Now they could be considering taking a second round pick instead just to move him. Okay.

So this again is if you trade Jimmy before the draft, then it helps validate Mack Jones as a pick because you can say, listen, we liked all these guys. But we didn't think any of them were ready to play and we're in the best division. So this is interesting. This is what we talked about. Yes. I think leaking the Trey Lance story is saying, you know, it's buying a little insurance if Mac Jones doesn't work. Hey, we liked everybody, but if you trade Garapolo, then it becomes much easier to argue your case. For Mac Jones.

Say, listen, we didn't think he was as talented as Trey Lance, but Trey was. And by the way, don't you think it's interesting? The player that has been leaked. Remember, nothing gets out unless teams want it out, Joy. So why would the Tray Lance leak get out? Because he's the least capable, they say, of starting now. So if you took Mack Jones over Justin Fields, people would say, well, they were both capable of starting. Why not take the guy with a higher ceiling?

But if you say, listen, are scouts like two guys? The guy ready to start and the guy with a great ceiling but not ready, then again, it validates of all the guys that could have been leaked. No, it makes sense. It makes sense if you look at it that way. What doesn't make sense is Mac Jones and Trellands have the same amount of starts in college football. So now obviously I'm aware Mac Jones played for Alabama. So we've seen him more and Tray Lance didn't play last year. So Mac Jones has played more frequently the game of football than Tray Lance. But they have the exact same amount of starts on tape to evaluate. I don't really buy into you have to go to a big school. and have the best coaching in college to develop into a star quarterback in the league. And the reason I don't is go look who the star quarterbacks are in the league. They didn't all go to Alabama and LSU and Georgia. Like that's, yes, exactly.

So I don't know where that, how that came to be. It's just if you prefer that he didn't, he played last year or didn't play last year. And obviously we like the system that was in place with Alabama and Mac Jones. But as far as the experience, they have the exact same amount of, experience. So Rob Gronkowski, I saw you posted this this weekend, Rob Grankowski has added another record to his list of accomplishments. So he went back to the University of Arizona to be one of the honorary coaches for the team's spring game. But he also set a Guinness World Record while he was there. He successfully caught a football

that was dropped 600 feet from a helicopter. The previous record was 563 feet. It's a really fun video. It's all over their social media. Now, I have a question. And somebody may know this. Please go to my Twitter account and inform me. The sense is if you drop a football from 600 feet, it will go faster. But I am not a scientist. Let's put our heads together. Everybody in the control room. Okay. Because I remember reading somebody said one time, if you dropped a penny off the New York Empire State Building, it would be going so fast. And I remember reading somebody saying, no, it'll pick up the speed it's going to go by 20 feet. It'll never go faster than that.

Yeah, it's not going to like continue to go faster and faster as a fall. So a football, because of its shape and the way it would turn in the wind. Yeah. It's really, the difference between dropping it 70 feet and 600 is not the speed of the ball. Yeah, I don't know that it's going to come in flying like a boat from Zeus. That's what I'm saying. But it's still 600 feet. I'm going to guess some scientists watching our show that,

the football you drop from a plane will get to its top speed within 30 feet. The hard part, of course, Joy, is at 600 feet. It starts as an aunt. Right. And you're trying to. Well, yeah, and there's wins. That's why he's, like, tracking it. It's still very impressive to do.

And it took him three times. But there's people out there saying it's going a thousand miles an hour. It didn't rip Gronk's arms off. That if you drop a penny from a building, the penny gets the top speed in 20 feet and just stays that same speed. Well, we knew he wasn't going to rip his arms off because someone did it from 563 feet. Oh, they did. So, yes. So he beat that record at 600 feet. Could somebody Google that on the staff?

I do believe. I don't know if the answer is necessarily on the internet, but if someone who is smart enough to understand what we are explaining, which is probably maybe one person watching us right now, let us know. I'm just hearing all this, oh, the speed of it. No, the hard part at 600 is just, it's like a fly ball. Yeah. The hard part is judging where you have to stand. Yeah, where you have to be and you've got to catch it. But a very, very fun thing.

I am going to be, I'm an Arizona football fan. Now my nephew's going there. Are you going to go to a game? Yeah, of course. They were there this weekend's for the spring game. You're going to go to games. Do you know Jed? Well, I don't know personally.

Oh, he's the best. My nephew was his first recruit. Isaiah was his first recruit. So he's going to be playing there as a freshman this year. Oh, my God. So, yeah, I can't wait. I'll get good tickets. Well, you'll get good tickets, too.

You can find tickets. Listen, I never turned down tickets. You owe me tickets to L-A-F-C. You promised that. Oh, I did. Yes. All right, I'll get on that too. Yeah.

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Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep. That's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th.

You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music.

The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tapped Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people.

I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam Jett. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill,

waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because, of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you finishing that sentence.

Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva, actress, mother, lover, and a Gen X woman walking through life one hot flash and hormonal crying jag at a time. You ladies know what I mean. I'll bet you a perimenopausal

chin here you do. So let's talk about it. Join me on my new podcast. How hard can it be with Deanna Maria Riva, where I call on my Gen X squads from Ohio to Hollywood as we navigate Midlife's most fantastic BS. All of a sudden, I'd had hanginess happening on my own. I was like, what the hell is I was married when I had her, so I didn't even consider how empty that nest was going to be. Mood swings, night sweats, fupas, sex drive. Wait, what sex? Dating at 45. How high can it be getting naked at 50 with the new guy?

That one's kind of hard, no. Well, that's lighting. They say we can't polish a turd, but we're sure going to try. So let's get blunt with laughs, tears, or tears of laughter, and dive into it, unfiltered and unbothered and ask, how hard can it be? I cannot believe I'm about to say this out loud in public. Listen to How Hard Can It Be with Diana Maria Riva as part of My Cultura Podcast Network available on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Story today, Falcons getting a lot of calls to trade Julio Jones. They could probably get a second round pick for Julio, 32 expensive, but still really, really good.

Little injury issue in the last couple of years. And the story Joy just had is the Niners would take a second round pick for Jimmy Garoppolo. And again, it would validate taking Mac Jones, who's the most NFL ready. Because I think the Niners have received a lot of pushback. I don't go to Reddit, but I was bouncing around something this weekend. What was it? A site may have been a Niners site. And man, no, no, I wasn't commenting, but I've done this before.

I'll go to a message board to see. Yeah, like you were in like the message boards. Yeah. And it was the Niner fans are not happy with Mac Jones. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, they don't love this at all. So now the Niners may be posturing. They release the, well, it's down to Trey Lance and Mac Jones. Don't think, by the way, don't think for a second these teams don't read that crap.

They do. So they were all Mac Jones a week ago. Now as we get closer to the draft, Niners fans are ripping Lynch and Kyle. Kyle did a never-winning record. Suddenly out of the blue, Trey Lance or, Mac Jones could go either way. So if they take Mac, they can say, listen, we thought he was ready to win now. And if they trade Garapolo, then it validated even more, which is we love Trey, which, by the way, it's smart career move.

We love Trey, but he was not ready to play in the NFC West yet, which, by the way, probably not. Because he's played the same number of games as Mac Jones, but he hasn't played his as frequently or with an NFL head coach and NFL coordinator. Right. So don't kid yourself. Teams float stuff all the time. When I was in Connecticut, the Mets and the Jets, the crappy franchises are always throwing rumors out there. WFAN Radio would talk about it and executives would hear what are our fans going to do with

this. You'd think it would never happen. It happens all the time. Of course. I mean, you have to, your fans matter very much. They're the ones that are buying tickets. They're the ones that are buying merchandise. Don't you think, I mean, just seriously.

So when I went to the Niners, I think it was a Niners board, the vitriol at Lynch and Mack Jones was intense. Yeah, none of the Niners fans I know are excited about it. So today, suddenly the Trey Lance balloon. Well, think about it. Like, Jets fans are so excited about Zach Wilson. So that you don't have to leak anything. Right.

And that's why we've heard nothing. Like, it has been ghost town. from the Jets because Jets fans like that pick and that's who they want to go with. And the Jags. Jags loves the pick. No rumors. Buying them wedding gifts. But why is Atlanta now every other day a rumor?

They're going to take a quarterback. They're going to take Kyle Pitts. It's all leaking because Atlanta wants it leak. They want to see what their fans think. And as you know, San Francisco is not a place that has rumors. It's not how they do business. And now they're suddenly the gossipy small town. person.

Everything's leaking. Never leaked ever. Now everything leaks from San Francisco. Because they want it out. It's that simple. They want this stuff out. Because they're getting heat for Mack Jones. Hot water that never runs out. Go to tanklessmaidsimple.com.

Tanklessmaidsimple.com. That's such a good point. Never leaked anything. They can't keep anything secret. Tankless made simple.com Navian. We'll see you tomorrow. Probably be nine trades by the time I get back on the air tomorrow. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite.

Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds.

I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's good, y'all? You're listening to Learn the Hard Way with your favorite therapist and host, Kear Games. This space is about black men's experiences, having honest conversations that it's really not safe to have anywhere,

but you're having them with a licensed professional who knows what he's doing. How many men carry a suit or armor. It signals to the world that you not to be played with. And just because you have the capability that does not mean that you need to, Listen to learn the hard way on the AHA radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. On the Look Back at it podcast.

From 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 was big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year.

It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.