The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 05/11/2021 - HOUR 2 - Jaguars, Dolphins, Packers

Episode Date: May 11, 2021

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Joy Taylor is joining me. You know, Joy, they're, when you do this long enough, instead of always having an opinion, sometimes, and we're on a treadmill, We're doing three hours a day, so it's hard to step back from it. Usually if I take a vacation or a day off, I just want to step away from sports and the job. I don't want to really sit and think about it all day. People always ask me, oh, you're off today.

Who's filling in? And I always say, I don't know. I'm taking the day off. It's somebody else's problem. I'm not in the employment business. Somebody else, I don't know who's filling in for me. But I want to talk about this. Tim Tebow story was fascinating.

And I was not a huge, a Tebow, fan as a player. But Tim, I should give him credit here, Tim taught me something. And Trump, I was no fan of Trump, Trump taught me something. And that you can tell people stuff all day. But if you make people feel something, then you move them. Tim Tebow was the first athlete I ever covered where I could give people data and it didn't matter because the data for Tebow was bad and it ruined the story. It was telling you that Santa Claus wasn't real. Tebow was wholesome and he believed in God and you believe in God and he's wholesome and he's nice and he's sweet and he's optimistic and he's not perfect. It was like the Truman Show. It was impossible

not to root for Jim Carrey surrounded by all those people manipulating his life Tebow made people feel something feel wholesome, feel good about football, feel good about America that you can be nice and hopeful and sweet and a little

corny and you can win in the NFL I could give people data he was the first athlete I ever covered it didn't matter it just didn't matter Trump, it didn't matter. You could give people data.

Trump made people feel something. And Tebow's career passer rating is 75. That's bad. But in the first three quarters, it's actually 69, the worst ever. And then teams would go into a prevent defense because they led and he would boost it. His completion percentage was 47. That's awful. But it was worse.

It was 44 in the first three quarters. And then teams would give him as they led, easy completions moved it up to 47.9. His yards per attempt with good receivers in Denver was 5.9. That would have been dead last. It didn't matter. Every time I gave you those stats, it didn't matter. Because those stats don't make you feel anything.

Tim did. By the way, he's Tassam Hill. He's just Tassam Hill. No, Tassum Hill ran and runs a 4-440. He could play corner in the end. NFL. Tayson Hill is one of the 10 best athletes in the league. Tim Tebow runs a 4-7-1. That's slow for a tight end. Last year, Taysam Hill had a 99 pass rating and a 73% completion percentage, and I don't think he's good enough to be a franchise quarterback. But Taysam Hill doesn't make you feel a certain way. Trump, whenever the answers are hard, people move toward simplicity.

because most people don't want to read the story, they want to read the headline. So they go to their Reddit or Facebook or Twitter. It takes one minute. And they get the simple answer. My cousin Joe said that Tebow is the, no, that's not what the truth is. And it's really hard these days. Truth, fact, fiction all gets blurred in the information tunnel because there's just a lot of social media now and your cousin says this. and that guy who on Newsmax tells me this, and it's hard.

I'm not saying it's easy. You can't separate fact from fiction. It's hard to delineate the two. But I learned something from Tebow is that popular Trump's data. If a politician makes you feel a certain way, he wins. Obama was about hope. Trump was about change. Joe Biden, by the way, sleepy Joe Biden.

Let's be honest. You didn't agree with all his policies. He's a little too old to be running, but he kind of made a lot of people feel he'll just bring the anxiety down. He'll just bring it. He won't use Twitter as a weapon. He'll just bring it. You didn't have to agree with his policies. That's why arguing about it is silly. Tebow really was the first athlete I ever covered. that data didn't matter. And I like data. I build all my arguments off data.

So I'm not going to try to convince you how to feel about Tebow. Because I know how he makes a lot of you feel. And I stand no chance against that force field. Chris Broussard, he always makes me feel happy. But boy, are we going to disagree on a couple of topics today? He is joining us now as the NBA playoffs get close. So I did think not to be a coastal elitist, but let me just say this about Westbrook. I thought last night was fitting, is that he got a triple double and you saw his brilliance.

And then he took a bad shot, missed a three to end the game. And on the night he set the record, you also got his reality with a minute left. And I thought, this is perfect. You got everything. You got the athleticism. record, you got the missed three. In a weird way, I always said this about Kobe. The last game he ever played, it's the most shots ever taken in the game. And I said, Kobe's being authentic to who he is. He didn't show up and pass the ball and help the young guys. He's like, I'm going out. It's a

fireworks show. And it's like last night really was everything that Westbrook is. Is that fair? It's very fair. I totally agree. I was watching that game. And I just, it was a terrible shot. You knew he wasn't going to hit it. He can't shoot threes in the first place, and they probably should have called time out and tried to run something. But here's the thing, Colin, over time, 30, 25, 30, 40 years from now, the details will get fuzzy. Okay, you know this. So even 10, 15 years from now, we won't remember, or the newcomers certainly won't remember, oh, Westbrook, you know, he really didn't know how to play time and stuff. score. You know, he played the last two minutes like it was the middle of the second quarter.

He just played every minute the same, never adjusted. All that will be lost. And all people will look at is, wow, this dude averaged a triple double for four seasons. That's it. And he will be a legend. As I've said, many times on this show, Colin, he will be a legend and he will be an icon. Now, I'm going to say something that's going to throw you off. Let me ask you, just let me ask you this. Your problem, and the problem that many people have with Westbrook is they don't think he can win, right? Yeah, I mean, his self-awareness, I mean, I think that's what makes great players great is not just athletic ability. These guys are all talented.

It's an understanding of what you do well, what you don't do well, elevating others. I think he plays in a tunnel and just, you know, his, he doesn't have a broad view. with the world. It's sort of this is what I do and I'm going to do it and I'm not going to change it. And I think that's not really going to lead you to championships. I think that's fair. I said last week, he's Alan Iverson. Iverson, we could say the same things about him, right? But here's the thing. Everybody who doesn't win a championship in the NBA was lacking something. They were lacking something. Whether it was Charles Barkley not wanting to play defense, maybe not be in this discipline, Carl Malone.

had struggles at times in the clutch. Remember who Michael Jordan stripped before he hit the big shot? You know, John Stockton and Steve Nash, they could have used a little more scoring. You know, if Stockton could have given them 20 a game instead of 14, maybe the Jazz win the title. Everybody that doesn't win a ring has something. I want to throw these numbers at you.

Steve Nash played 18 years in the league. He won 11 players. series. Four times he went to the conference finals, never to the NBA finals. Chris Paul played 15 years in the league, has won seven playoff series. That's it. And been the one conference final and never to the finals. And those two guys, we don't crush them with this label of they can't win. They're not winners. Westbrook, only in the league for 12 years, has won 11 playoffs. series has been the four conference finals and one NBA finals. So he's actually won more than Nash and Chris Paul. And I get it. Westbrooks played with great players, but so did Nash and

Chris Paul. Both of them played with awesome lineups and didn't win as much as Westbrooks winning. For different reasons, but my point is everybody that doesn't win a ring has something that's keeping them from getting it. And Westbrook's no different, but we just hard. on him not being a winner, and I think it's unfair. Yeah, I don't. I think he's earned his reputation. Those guys didn't play with KD and Hardin in their prime. But nonetheless, fairness is I've said, I'd vote him in the Hall of Fame, I'd pay to watch him play.

I think he's iconic. I think he's unique. I do think your argument that all the guys that don't have a ring had a flaw. Totally by that. I mean, by the way, some guys didn't have a bunch of, John Stockton was kind of a, he was physical, he could pass, he could hit a. jumper. He was a great leader. He didn't win a title either. Sometimes, you know, if you're Phil Mickelson, there's a guy named Tiger Woods in the way. Sometimes you don't even have to have a

flaw. It's hard to win championship. So I, listen, I, to me, Westbrook last night, that kind of defined him. I got the good, the bad, the ugly, the judgment. And it's like, yeah, that, that's perfect. Now, I want to move to this. So I watched the Knicks and Clippers play Sunday. And I do think there's a ceiling on the Knicks as a playoff team. I think they lack offensive I think they can come into town, outplay, you'll work hard, but in the playoffs, everybody plays hard, and that advantage goes away. But more troubling is the Clippers. They are a bad basketball team with four minutes to play.

They're an NFL roster that's good with no quarterback. I watch them disintegrate late. They are one of the four to five worst offensive teams clutch points in the league, the other four bad teams. And I watched them, and I thought, it's like having a bad bullpen in baseball. It's hard to win a World Series when you're leaking runs in the 7, 8th, and 9th. I watch them, and I'm like, they are, they're not getting any better. Two years, they're bad late.

Is there a solution to that for the Clippers? Well, the solution is supposed to be Ray John and Rhonda. And I agree. Watching that game against the Knicks, it was like, what are they doing? It degenerated into just give it to Kawhi or give it to Paul George and watch them go, right? And Rondo was on the floor at points, but. But he helped initially, and I think he will help in the playoffs. But that is their Achilles heel is what they do in the last few minutes of game.

They want to put the ball in his hands and have him get it to those guys in the right spots. But I agree it's a concern. But I will say this about him, Colin. They are the only – if LeBron plays every playoff game, and he's roughly 85 to 90 percent or better as time goes on, and Anthony Davis truly is back to what he's been the last two games, then I think the only team with a legitimate chance of beating the Lakers in the West is the Clippers.

Because other, I mean, every other series the Lakers have by far two of the three best players on the floor, if not the two best. Utah doesn't scare you, Phoenix doesn't scare you, Denver does not scare you, especially without Jamal Murray. And the Clippers are the only team. team with a chance to beat the Lakers. I'd pick the Lakers, but the Clippers would have a shot.

But I hear you. I mean, they, at the end of games, they are a mess unless Rondo's really orchestrating well. You know, we're getting to a point now where I hate talking about this MVP stuff. I really do. I think it's just like the Heisman winner. I don't care. But it does look like the league is acknowledging Chris Paul exists. this morning, where do you think he'll finish?

He won't win it because he doesn't have the numbers. I mean, it's just the way the league works. But it does feel like the last three or four weeks, people are coming to terms with, yeah, this is kind of embarrassing. He's not in the top five. Where do you think Chris Paul finishes in the MVP voting? I do think he'll be in the top five. It'll probably be, if I had to name, I'd say four.

I'd say four. Yokits, we know, is going to win. he's getting my vote. I haven't looked at how I'll do my next four, but Yolkis will get my vote. But Yonis may be second. We know this is a year where, look, I would have had James Harden, Joel NB, and probably LeBron,

all ahead of Yolkich had they not been injured and missed so many games. So it's an off year, but I agree with you what the turnaround in Phoenix, and I do have to say this. The son's not taking anything away from Chris. because he's been the leader that they need. And he's hit big shots too. But they were Aitnawing the bubble. Oh, okay, it was the bubble.

I get it. From January on last year, they played above 500 basketball. Yeah. And remember, D'Auntrey Aiton was out for a big chunk of last year. And so it wasn't like, like, it's not as simple as saying they were horrible last season, didn't make the playoffs.

Chris came in and all of a sudden they're the number two seed. That's a big part of it. but there are other factors involved in it as well. Chris Broussard, Fox Sports NBA analyst, bud, appreciate you stopping by today. Good stuff. All right, Colin. Justin Jefferson, Minnesota Vikings, best young receiver. He's a kid and he is great.

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The reality is it doesn't matter what coaches think, Urban-on-Tibault, Brian Antua, you can't fool the players. Multiple players last year on the Dolphins leaked to the Miami Herald, dude can't play. Multiple players will lose confidence in a coach if he keeps trying to sell them that bad real estate. It didn't matter what Matt Nagy said about Trubisky. The Bears' players stopped believing in him. Do you notice the Bears defense last year wasn't as good? Why?

It's not like the schemes were terrible. The players got bad. No, they stopped playing with the same effort, knowing that if you trail by 10 late in the third quarter, you got no chance to win with Tribisky. You know, there's the old joke. Don't, don't show me the baby. Don't tell me how it's made.

Show me the baby. It's the same with jokes. Don't tell me the joke is funny. I want to laugh. Stop trying to convince me how average quarterbacks are good. I'm not interested. In fact, the first sign that a quarterback is special is the coach does the opposite of Brian Flores.

They pump the brakes. Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert, the coach comes out, hey, slow down. It's only 13 starts. He's better than Elway. Whoa, you know when a quarterback's really special because the coach pumps the break. You media guys have made him out to be Elway. Yeah, I watched Justin Herbert Mahomes. They kind of look like him.

When a coach has to say what my eyes aren't seeing, oh, this guy, I have never lost faith in him. The players have. And the players will ultimately, it's like restaurants. Restaurants are truth serum. Your food's good. Your service is good. You win.

You go to any town in America. You'll find like four restaurants been around for, forever, sometimes less, sometimes more. They don't always have the best location. You can have the best location. You can have the best marketing. You can have a beautiful facility. You can be well healed.

Have big investors behind you. Food's average. Services average. You're out of business. I'll never forget going to a Super Bowl years ago in Dallas. And everybody's, I said, oh, Dallas. Take me to a great restaurant. And the person said, oh, there's a Mexican restaurant.

It's about 20 miles out of town. I swear to God, you couldn't find it on Google Maps. It was in a neighborhood. It was at night. It was dark. It was cold. We were all over these neighborhoods. I couldn't find it in a million years.

It was way off the freeway, way north of Dallas. And I sat down for two hours, had about my 19th margarita and burrito and said, how long was this place been around? And they're like, yeah, I think it's the 50s. Like, yeah, I get it. Food was good. Service was great. Boy, the margarine.

That's the last time I drank a lot of margarine. margaritas. But let me tell you something. Nothing else mattered. Food good, service good. A guy can play. When he's special, he can play. A coach will tell you to pump the brakes. You can't keep trying to sell me. Oh, a restaurant's great. No, the location is, the marketing is, the menu looks great. The food's not. Two is small. Doesn't have a special arm. Not very athletic. Play has to be perfectly designed to work. Come on, man. That's not the league. That was barely the league in the 70s. Certainly not the league now. Joy with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the

Heard Line News. History. Russell Westbrook broke the NBA triple double record last night when he grabbed his 10th rebounds with 830 left in the fourth quarter. And the Wizards tweeted out a video with some of the triple double top five sending their messages of support. I'm very happy for you. Your family is very proud of you. And I salute you for all your accomplishments in the game of basketball. What a feat. Incredible. You left me a long time ago, but you're going to go down as Mr. Triple Double.

It's incredible feat. Someone had to do it. Why not you? Impressive, though. Where's Kevin Durant in that? I don't know. I didn't. What was James Hardin in that?

Magic Johnson, Bradley Beale, and Scott Brooks also added their congrats. Atlanta fans actually started chanting Russell in response. What about his first? former teammates. Look, I'm sure his former teammates have also reached out. I cannot confirm or deny. I don't know exactly if Kevin Durant said anything. Russell's very, very well liked around the league.

He's very well respected, very well liked. He is a great guy outside of basketball. Supposed to be, yes. A big-time family guy. You like his game or you don't. And listen, I'm a championship person myself. I'm with you. I prefer that the biggest stars are.

constantly contending for championships. We like winning. I do like winning. However, I can also appreciate someone's career very much at a very high level without championships. I think a good example of that. People we always point to is Charles Barkley. In football, Damarino doesn't have an ounce less of respect because he didn't win a championship. I mean, we all know he didn't, but he's still Dan the man.

You say Dan Marino's name and it's this instant respect. I think that to Chris Brassard's point, when we step up, away from Russell Westbrook's career when he retires 10, 20 years after he retires, he is going to be remembered for being an incredibly dynamic player with an awesome career. And that's what he's had. Translating what he does to championships, for whatever reason, may not work. Maybe his style of play doesn't work. Maybe he hasn't been in the perfect situations at the perfect time. He has had other Hall of Famers around him, so you can't argue against that. But they were also very young. He doesn't cheat the fans.

I mean, the one thing I'll say about him is if you pay to watch Westbrook play, he has never mailed it in. He's not a load management guy. He's not a, I'm taking the night off guy. The one thing I do think there's real value beyond his talent is, you know, the fans too often get the short end of the stick on all this stuff. And load management, I just think, I mean, I grew up in a small town. So like, I would go to one NBA game a year, a Sonics game. And if downtown Freddie Brown didn't play, I was heartbroken. Well, that's still what most fans can go to is won maybe two games a year.

So when you go to a Westbrook game, you are going to get, I don't care if it's a Tuesday night and he's got the flu. That dude could have COVID. He has given you 42 minutes of relentless and total respect from me on that. He nobody plays harder. Remember the football player, the late Kevin Green? Remember him in the pass rusher? Like when you watched him play, I always thought. myself, that dude loves football.

Like when you watch Westbrook, he loves the game. He doesn't love what the game can do for him. He, I mean, he probably likes that too, but Westbrook loves the game. And I always respect guys. Some guys just, they can't hide it. Their passion

for playing is... I think it was Tony Gonzalez, right, that we talked about and you asked him, you know, how many guys really actually care about playing football, like how many are really committed or how much, how much is this just a job? and it provides obviously some awesome benefits to playing football. And you can sometimes people are just talented enough to overcome that and it doesn't matter.

And it's not to say like if you're a professional athlete, you care. Like you don't get to that level without caring. But there's a spectrum for everything. And there's no denying that Russell Westbrook very much cares about the game of basketball. Yeah. So TiVo Mania has arrived. Now look, I want to be very clear about this. I do not think if this is the right decision at all.

But I am in the anarchy and chaos business. this. So for us, for us, it's wonderful. Lots of content. He's very polarizing. So I enjoy all of it. I do think it's a big mistake, though, to do this. But NFL Network's Ian Rapp report reported that the Jags are expected to sign Tim Tebow to a one-year contract. He's supposed to be official next week or so. He's going to be playing tight end. So obviously he's going to be paired again with coach Urban Meyer, with whom he won the Heisman at Florida. He has not played. played since he was with the Jets, we're showing right now. He started two games in 2012. And last time he played tight end was in high school. He did.

He started his football career as a tight end at Trinity Christian Academy High School in Jacksonville. Like was that, like, was that like freshman year of high school or something? It wasn't until he transferred to Nice High School that it became a quarterback. So I don't know what year he transferred. But yes, he played, he started his high school career, which. Tim Tebow's 33 years old. I'm 34. I graduated in 2004,

which is a lifetime ago. We were actually going over during the meeting today, all the things that were going on since the last time that Tim Tebow was in college, and I was like, guys, I really don't appreciate this.

The iPhone wasn't around when Tebow was in college. Yes, and I'm a year older than him. Listen, I think it's, I think it's an absurd thing to do for multiple reasons. One, you have to read the room. When you're in a position of power and you are a face of an organization and the way

that Urban is at this point, right? We haven't seen Trevor Lawrence. We know that he will be the face of the organization, but we know what Urban's career is. You're the one making this decision, right? Trevor Lawrence has nothing to do with this. You have to read the room. Like you, not just your locker room. The environment around, the culture around the country right now, the planet, everything that's going on, right? You can't just be giving opportunities. to guys because you know them with with with absolutely no credentials whatsoever there to gregg's point earlier gregg jennings we talked about this there are guys who have put in their entire life's work who are qualified who are young who have been on the field last year who have scraped and clod

for an opportunity and it's like yeah you know he played for me a million years ago which i can say is a 34 year old woman a million years ago in high school i was awesome in high school too like that that was a long time ago. Yeah, it's, I do think of, you know, it's just, it's just fraught with problems. It's just, there's so much about it. But, you know, I kind of look at it like, I do wonder if,

is like Tebow close to an NFL pension or something? Seriously. So your point with that, the NFL has always been, and professional sports has always been, it doesn't matter where you're from, how you grew up, if you were rich, if you were poor, if you can play,

if you can play, you will get an opportunity. Like if you can actually play. And this just feels like, it's still the same old thing as it is everywhere else. It's an old boys club. If you know somebody, you're good. And that's what it feels like.

Fox bet odds to score a touchdown. Yes, is plus 500. No is minus 800. So you can't bet on some things already on Tim Tebow's career in Jacksonville. So it's long going to assume that Bill Belichick's successor was already in the building, but it might not be who you think. Boston Globe writer Ben Volan suggests that Matt Patricia might be the one to follow in

Belichick's footsteps. They had to choose one person and they chose him. And it does seem like they're broadening his skill set. And it makes me wonder if they're setting him up to be the heir apparent to Belichick. Well, Josh McDaniels, he left Belichick one. And then he was going to leave a second time until the owner stepped in and paid him a lot to be coordinator. It was very controversial, completely backing out on the Colts, actually had some people quit their job and thinking that they were heading over there. Josh McDaniels is very much Lane Kiffin.

Everybody's got an opinion split right down the middle. Matt Patricia, we question competence, but most people in football like him. He went 32, 29, and 1 as the Lions head coach. Now, granted, it is. Again, what did he do? I thought it was. I mean, sorry, 13, 29 and 1. No, I mean, it was a disaster.

It was a disaster. It was a disaster. Had on backwards first game, like, got mocked for that. And listen, I don't, I don't want to not, I don't want to take any credit away from how bad the Lions organization has been. But that's a long time to be bad. 13, 29 and 1. Like, you had more than your runway to turn things around there and it just never happened. So, US, oh, wait, hold on.

Yeah, that's it. I want to keep going. All right. Joy with the news. That's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Line News. Justin Jefferson's superstar receiver, Minnesota Vikings is around the corner.

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He said Jordan Love is, quote, a long way to go. There's a difference between not ready and a long way to go. What's worrying about that is that Jordan Love had 32 college starts. That's like three years of starting. They're not in the football playoff. If you play three years of college football and you're a long way to go, that worries me. Like with all these seven-on-seven passing camps, I mean, again, a long way to go. People say, well, Aaron Roger sat for three years ago.

That was 16 years ago. That was 16 years ago. You didn't have this generation. Aaron's from a previous generation. He's closer to 40 than 30. He's one year away from being closer to 40 than 35. Aaron did not grow up with all this seven-on-seven passing camps. He had to go to junior college.

Aaron didn't have that many snaps for the time he got to the. NFL. He didn't. That's 16 years ago. Bob Barker still hosted the prices right 16 years ago. We didn't have an iPhone 16 years ago. Tebow was in college 16 years ago. So boy, that, that, that, you know, the thing is that Green Bay and Aaron are both kind of trapped. I mean, Green Bay, if Jordan is a long way to go, they're trapped. Because this is going to, Jordan will get totally exposed. But Aaron's trapped. He's owned by Green Bay for the next three years. You could say, well, he can can't. They own his rights. where's he going to go? Now, he can go to Jeopardy, but when you're as good as Aaron Rogers at something,

you don't retire. I mean, if you sing like Cardi B or Beyonce or something, you don't retire in your 30s. That's just not the way it works. Like, even if you retire, you can come back and, I mean, Tony Bennett sang to the end, right? Like, that's the way it works. And I just, retirement doesn't sound right to me. He's too good at it. And he makes a lot of money doing it. He It mostly has fun doing it. So, I mean, the way to solve this thing is communication. But, boy, when I read a long way to go after 32 college starts, I mean, Justin Herbert had about 35, 40 college start. I mean, that's kind of, Justin Herbert was told on the sidelines five minutes before he played the Kansas City Chiefs go.

He was ready. We all watched that game. I think most of us did. We were all like, wow. Like, we don't got a wow. We got a whoa. Long way to go. That's worrisome.

Justin Jefferson is putting the worry in NFL defensive backs and defenses. He had the most receiving yards in the history of the NFL for a rookie. In a league with seemingly an endless stream of receivers, he was an all-pro as a rookie. And he went to LSU. All those guys are good. I swear to God, you play at Baton Rouge, you come to the NFL, and it's just you're fine. Day one. He joins us live.

Justin Jefferson, Vikings Pro Bowl wide receiver. By the way, Justin, Jamar Chase, and this tells you how much talent LSU had. They got Jamar Chase on one side and Justin Jefferson on the other side. So tell me a little about Jamar Chase. If I'd never seen him play, and you were explaining to me what Jamar Chase is like, and Joe Burrow now has Jamar Chase. What does he like? What was he like to be a teammate of?

He was phenomenal to have a teammate. We are both competitive, and we love to compete. So every practice, every game, we just try to outdo one another. I mean, it was great to have him as a teammate and to play on long side of him and Terrence. Is he a little bigger than you, smaller? How are your games the same? How are they different? They're a little different.

I'm more of the little twitchy-ish fast. You know, I have good routes. He has good routes also, but he's more. of the physical, vertical threat type of receiver. But, I mean, he's versatile just like me. He can go inside and outside. You know, when you get to the NFL and we just had the NFL draft, and it was a good receiver draft, and you popped immediately.

But let me ask you, if you were going to go back and tell all these receivers that just got drafted, if you were going to give them one thing and say, okay, here's the one thing I'm going to tell you, the difference between college in the NFL, what, what, Justin, would that one thing be? The one thing I have to say is just, well, I played in the SEC. So, you know, we played guys like Alabama, Georgia, all of these big-time teams that have, you know, some tremendous players on them. So every week, the competition is not that different from the NFL. The only thing that would be different is just the players are strong. smarter. They've been in the league, you know, eight years or however many they have been. So they

study the game. They know the different types of movements, where you're going to be on the field. So they're a little bit more smarter than in college. That's the only thing that's really different from the SEC. Yeah, you're dealing with men looking at video all day. That's the reality of it. Totally get that. When did you know as a Viking? Was it the first practice? Because listen, even great college players sometimes don't work in the NFL. When did you know when you and Kirk Cousins were together and you thought to yourself, it's going to be good? I'm going to have a good.

I can play in the NFL. It's going to be good. I'll have to say after that first start against Tennessee, when I had my first touchdown, 175 yards, seven catches. I felt like after that week, I felt like it was going to be a good connection between me and him. And then from there on, we just started getting better. better. We started working with each other more. And I mean, it showed on the field by having

1,400 yards. So now you have had Joe Burrow and you have had Kirk Cousins and take your time here. Now, compare them. Where are they similar? Where are they not similar? Similar. Kirk and Joe throws similar balls. They're not the strongest arm, but they're going to get it to you exactly where you need it. You need them to throw. But the thing about Joe, that's a little bit different. Joe, I feel like Joe had a little bit more swagger, you know. He has that confidence on the field. And, I mean, he's not scared to get hit.

And I feel like as a quarterback, that's a big trait to have, especially to be as young as he is. And, you know, he's a phenomenal quarterback. So were you surprised to hear the Vikings were interested? and Justin Fields. Does that surprise you at all, the quarterback from Ohio State? No. We have to build on, you know, for after Kirk or whatever the case may be. But having Justin Fields brings a little bit more pressure to other teams by having, you know, a dominant quarterback like he is. So my son for years played Fortnite, and I mean he lived in front of a computer.

you are kind of legendary for your dancing, which is now featured on Fortnite. So let's just talk about it. Let's dive deep into this. Okay. So my theory is guys who can dance, it's natural. You could dance when you were seven. You could dance. Somebody in your family was a dance. Was your mom a dancer?

Was your dad a dancer? My dad was a little bit of a dancer. But, I mean, growing up, me and my brothers always used to just. dance to music. And I mean, it's just that New Orleans culture, that Louisiana's culture that, you know, we like to give a little one-two. I want to want some music coming from. Well, you're a great player.

And Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson, many believe I talked to an NFL scout about a month ago, and he said, you're going to have the two best receivers in the NFL, both from LSU. He goes, you're not going to believe how good Justin Jefferson is. And then he was great. And now, well, all of a sudden, we're going to have. Jamar Chase. By the way, you're working with optimum nutrition. You're building better lives program. Give me a heads up on what that is. Really just build, well, what we had worked on, we're just going back to my community,

bringing some fitness and bringing some light to my hometown. And just like you said, we're building better lives and just trying to stay fit. Just all that is different protein and energy drinks that they have is wonderful. I'm definitely excited and proud to be working with them. Justin Jefferson, the All-Pro as a rookie, the endless stream of great LSU football players, the National Football League. Good luck to you. Can't wait to watch a play.

We had Devante Adams on yesterday, Justin Jefferson today. Listen, if you're not an all-pro, we don't even want you on the show anymore. That's our new standard. Good seeing you, Justin. Good luck. Thank you. Appreciate it. You bet.

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