The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 05/12/2021 - HOUR 1 - NFL, Lakers-Knicks, Tebow

Episode Date: May 12, 2021

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Starting point is 00:02:41 It could not be a better day in America for us. Not only is the herd brought to you by Jersey mic subs. Be a sub above. They bring sandwiches on Wednesday. But tonight is the NFL schedule release. I'm into it. You know how, you know, this stuff works for me. schedule release, draft stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:01 I like building stuff. And I just love the NFL schedule release tonight. We're going to have a party at the Hurd Grotto tonight. Joy Taylor is joining me. I love this stuff. The week one schedule is already out, fired up. Well, you also have a lot of theories around the schedule. Like playing win-loss is my favorite game.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Like you just go down, like win-loss, one-loss. You don't cross-check or anything. Like, that's what every fan does. but you have a lot of theories around how the schedule plays out. I do. So the NFL has released its schedule. And let me just say this. The NFL is really smart.
Starting point is 00:03:38 They do a couple things really well. They understand that they're a television show. So they spread their events out and make them events. Every month has an event. You got free agency. You got the draft. You got the Combine. You got the preseason.
Starting point is 00:03:52 You got the schedule release. I mean, they put it right in the middle of the week, Wednesday. knowing that guys like me are going to talk about it today, Wednesday, tomorrow Thursday, and some guys talk about it Friday. Put it right in the middle of the week. They drop it right before the NBA playoffs because sports is going to get a little cluttered here next week. So they put it right. They think about everything.
Starting point is 00:04:14 And then when the NFL does have problems, they address them quickly. I mean, Major League Baseball has a three-year problem. I don't know. Feels like a big deal. Nobody can hit anymore. You may want to address it. Crickets. NBA lost a third of its audience last two years.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Stars don't play in the biggest games. You may want to address it. NFL changed their catch rule before the Super Bowl. Like in the game. Like we've got to make this better on television. So the schedule today is perfect. They think about everything. They think about everything in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Great example. Cowboys Buccaneers. So you get the biggest brand in the NFL against the best team. And it's also. I think going to be a competitive game. Because the Cowboys offensive line is old, and you don't get 17 games out of it. But in week one, little Super Bowl win hangover for Tampa loving themselves. They got the fields for themselves.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Here comes Dallas. Zeeks healthy, O-line healthy, competitive football game. But just look at how thoughtful they were here. So Jets Panthers is a one o'clock game. Now, if you played that joy in week nine, nobody cares. but Sam Darnold faces the team that dumped him week one and faces his heir apparent week one. Hell yeah, I'm watching.
Starting point is 00:05:35 That's exactly when you put that. That game is less interesting every week. By week six, nobody cares. But they put it week one, they thought about it. Seahawks at the Colts, two Super Bowl contenders, Browns at the Chiefs, AFC championship contenders. Oh, Dolphins Patriots.
Starting point is 00:05:56 When is Belichick most vulnerable? September. That's his history. So they bring in Brian Flores. It's Belichick against his protege. It could be two against Mac Jones. Then they go, Packers Saints, two massive brands. They collide.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Plus, we all want to watch that, right? Fox puts that the late game. Aaron Rogers, even if he's there, he hates the team, he hates the GM, he's all upset. And then you go Monday night. Oh, by the way, Bears Rams, NBC. see why is that matter? First of all, Chicago, L.A., huge markets. But why it matters is because Matt Stafford and Sean McVey, there is a feeling in Vegas in the betting community. Stafford's going to have a massive year.
Starting point is 00:06:36 So the NFL doesn't want to wait to start that story. The NFL week one, they're going to put at night on NBC, they're going to put Matt Stafford and McVey. Week one, Sean McVey has been a great September coach, a bunch of new tricks like Andy Reed in the offseason. He's a very good play designer. Suddenly you got Stafford with a big win, Stafford with a lot of points. It's not going to be cruddy weather. Bears in L.A., big brand, Matt Stafford, Sean McVe.
Starting point is 00:07:05 And the story's rolling. Then Monday Night Football, John Gruden used to broadcast on it. John Gruden and the Raiders host the Ravens. By the way, if the Raiders were at Baltimore, it could be a blowout. But in Vegas, so you're going to get the Cowboys against the Super Bowl champs. Vegas, Los Angeles. Here's the other thing. Here's how smart they are.
Starting point is 00:07:30 This is a true story. What I'm about to tell you is a true story. And this is where the NFL works very well with their TV partners. So the 4 o'clock window, 425 on Fox, they have the Broncos game against the Giants and the Packers game. Color me non. coincidental. If Aaron Rogers does go to the Broncos, Fox doesn't have to change the games. Fox has them both. So if Aaron goes, I'm going to Denver, get me out of here. Fox has both the
Starting point is 00:08:09 Green Bay game and the Denver game. They cover themselves. That is thoughtful. That is smart. Years ago, not many years ago, two or three years ago, I'm not going to say the network, but one of the networks literally had to call Major League Baseball about their schedule. I'm not going to tell you who. I'm not going to tell you the network, Fox. We had to call Major League Baseball and say, you know, can we help you with your schedule? Why are you putting all these like Cub Cardinal Dodger Giant games in the week? Why don't you put your biggest rivalries on the week end?
Starting point is 00:08:49 The TV network had to go to the sport and tell them how to schedule. In the NFL, the NFL knows how to schedule, but they weren't. were their television partners. I would guess putting a Bronco Packer game back-to-back same time slot is protection hedging your bet if Aaron goes to Denver. I don't think it's a coincidence. Maybe it is. But nobody wants in the media loves to give the NFL credit because the NFL doesn't need
Starting point is 00:09:15 the media and the media wants to be needed and they don't need you. They don't need me. They don't need anybody. But they are so much smarter and better run. with their schedule. They thought of everything. To put Darnold against the Jets in week one is brilliant. That game is useless potentially by week six when the Jets are one and five.
Starting point is 00:09:37 It means nothing. But in week one, a little revenge game for Sam Darnold at home against the team that dumped him. I'm watching. I'm watching. Really smart. All right. One team got a terrible break. I'll get to that later.
Starting point is 00:09:57 But let's start with this. So the Lakers Knicks played last night. It was actually a really entertaining game. I've watched a couple back-to-back Nick games. They're feisty and fun. And it was a big, meaningful win for the Lakers because New York's a real team. And they won it in overtime. LeBron didn't play.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Dennis Schroeder didn't play. Alex Caruso got hurt very early. 80 was not 100%. And they beat a feisty New York Knicks team. It was also a game that highlighted the problem with the New York Knicks. The New York Knicks, it's a big. Maybe Step League. You don't go from the Knicks crappy to winning the title. Same with the Phoenix Suns this year. This game really highlighted the New York Knicks. They just don't have enough
Starting point is 00:10:38 juice. You play hard in the NBA. It's a classic Tom Fibito team. He grinds his players. The practices are longer. They play more minutes. They play harder. That wins you 45, 50 games in the regular season. But teams are exhausted by the postseason and his teams lack juice and energy in the postseason. And if you looked at the Knicks last night, I mean, this is what is going to be their problem in the playoffs. Derek Rose, old rickety Derek Rose is often their leading or second leading score. So it was like Julius Randall, Derek Rose, and the rest of the team shot 13 of 38. Meanwhile, the Lakers are built for the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:11:17 And a prime example is, A, we know they have experience in the playoffs. B, they have a coach who's experienced in the playoffs. But if you look at the box score, you had Anthony Davis dropping 20. Andre Drummond dropped 16. Kyle Kuzman gave you 23. Horton Tucker gave you 13. And LeBron and Schrooter didn't play. So you had two more guys in double figures with the Knicks, Julius Randall 31, Derek Rose, 27, and a bunch of guys with two and four.
Starting point is 00:11:45 So you can't win in the playoffs when you need juice. You need guys who could, you need five guys who can drop 20. The Lakers are really built for the playoffs. And last night was a great example for the Lakers. That's why they're going to be a playoff team. And I think they're going to be a really good playoff team as long as LeBron is like 85, 90% healthy. They just got a bunch of guys who can create their own shot or give you 20 on any night. And the Knicks don't.
Starting point is 00:12:13 It's kind of Julius Randall, cross your fingers. RJ Barrett's young and hot. Last night he couldn't shoot. So it showed you a lot last night. It showed you the Knicks. have a foundation, they play hard, but boy, you can see their ceiling. They struggled last night late in the fourth quarter and overtime to get shots. They struggled to get shots.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Well, guess what? Milwaukee in the East, like the Lakers last night, they play real defense. I mean, Philadelphia can play real defense. Ben Simmons up there on defense. So now Brooklyn doesn't play any defense, but Milwaukee does. Miami Heat's historically-spolstered teams do. The Knicks have a real ceiling, and you saw it last. night. And the Lakers, without two of their three best players, won a game, a bunch of guys jumped in
Starting point is 00:13:01 and scored. That shows you why they haven't been a good regular season team, but why they're built for the playoffs. Can't wait. It was a very, very entertaining game. So coming up next, listen, it's only one game. So we know week one of the NFL schedule, but God did one team get the worst break in the world? We'll talk about that coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.
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Starting point is 00:17:15 Get ready for the biggest season ever with the release of the 2021 NFL schedule tonight at 8 p.m. Eastern on FS1 and NFL Network. Don't miss the first look at the entire 17-game regular season. Plus, starting tonight, fans can purchase single game tickets at NFL.com slash tickets. And we've got a sneak peek of the week one. slate here on Fox. In the 1 p.m. window. We've got Eagles at Falcons, Vikings
Starting point is 00:17:41 at Bengals, 49ers at Lions and Seahawks at Colts, and in the late afternoon, window, we've got America's Game of the Week, Packers at Saints, Broncos at Giants. One team got a really bad break. I know, I know, Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:18:00 I'm picking on you. Cleveland got a bad break. They got the worst break. in the league. Cleveland's a good football team. I think they're the best over-bett. Nine and a half wins. I think they're a 10-11 win team. They got a terrible break. Andy Reid is the best September coach in football.
Starting point is 00:18:19 That's who the Browns open with at Kansas City. Patrick Mahomes, under Andy Reid in September, is 10-0 with 32 touchdowns and zero interceptions. It is the last place you want to play. Kansas City. Andy reads the best NFL coach in September, and he's the best NFL coach off a buy, and week one is essentially off a buy. Andy Reid buries his play sheet until week one. Go ask Belichick. He's humiliated Belichick in September. Also, Cleveland's going to have eight or nine new defensive starters. So in week nine or ten, this is a tug-of-war. This is a real game.
Starting point is 00:18:59 In week one, nine new defensive starters against the best game play designer in the NFL and the quarterback at home. Now, the good news, Cleveland, you're used to not winning in week one. You haven't won a week one game in 17 years, so you'll be 0-1. And you'll overcome it because you're a really good team. You have a really good coach, but that is a bad scheduling break. You know, again, Pittsburgh is not a team that I'm fond of this year, but in week one, they're healthy.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Mike Tom, Big Ben's at his best early. He deteriorates. These old quarterbacks get worse late. right, right? Big Ben in September, it'll give you a game. Pittsburgh would be better served, because they don't have a bunch of new defensive faces. Pittsburgh would be better served to go to Kansas City and compete week one. Not a team with nine defensive starters that are learning a system from other teams, young. This is a bad break for Cleveland. I still think they're a really good team next year. This is Baker Mayfield, just to show you Cleveland's history in week one,
Starting point is 00:20:03 Baker Mayfield has two starts week one. He lost 43 to 13 and 38 to 6. So I'm not going to do a blazing five, but I will bet some games today. Uncle Colin does not waste opportunities to make some lettuce. If I did a blazing five today, because the lines often never get better on Fox Bet, here's the best lines. Seattle plus three at Indianapolis. Seattle tends to be, again, same coach, same quarterback, many of the same weapons.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Indianapolis has a new quarterback. And so, and their best young receiver, Michael Pittman's never worked with Carson Wentz. I think the culture going to be really good. I don't know how good they're going to be in week one. Last year they lost to the Jags in week one. So I would take Seattle and the points in week one. Atlanta minus one and a half. Now, you know Atlanta burns me every year, but Atlanta actually got beat up last year.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Atlanta now adds Kyle Pitts. They get Arthur Smith, a really, really smart offensive mind is their head coach. and they face a Philadelphia team at home. They only have to give up, put it up again, only have to give up one and a half points. I think Atlanta is a really good bet. I think the Philadelphia Eagles made just an egregiously bad hire at head coach. I would take Atlanta minus one and a half against Philadelphia. I would actually take the Cowboys plus four and a half against Tampa because that line is probably
Starting point is 00:21:24 going to get bet up to about five and a half. Brady is going to get a lot, curry, a lot of the favor of the general public. people are going to say, oh, Cowboys are going to get blown out. Not in week one. Not really in week one. When you win the Super Bowl and you're having parades and you're throwing the trophy around the Tampa Bay, week one, you could be a little sluggish, a little Super Bowl hangover. It's been a – that's hard to get guys, you know, motivated for week one.
Starting point is 00:21:48 And Dallas's offensive line, and Zika will be healthy week one. Dax got a lot to prove. He's got a big new contract. Dack wants to prove he can compete. He's worth the money. I would take Dallas and the points. Chargers at the Washington football team. Now, I like the Chargers a lot this year,
Starting point is 00:22:03 but they have a brand new offensive line and a brand new coach, and they are facing Ron Rivera's defensive front, which is outstanding. So you're taking the Chargers, who I think are going to be really good, that is a tough opener. On the road, six-hour flight, veteran head coach, the system's already implemented, and you've got Brandon Staley, who's very, very good,
Starting point is 00:22:27 but boy, oh boy, that's a lot to choose. off in week one. I'd probably take the Washington football team. It's a pick-um. And Kansas City minus four and a half against the Browns, that number's going to end up five or six. That's the best number you're going to get. Kansas City's going to curry a lot of favor with the betters. So I would take Kansas City minus four and a half. That's today, I think, the best bets on the board. What do I know, except everything? All right, Joy Taylor with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the her. line news.
Starting point is 00:23:00 It's been a good couple of weeks for you. The draft. Schedule. Roger's drama. Oh, my gosh. A maze balls. And we got the gift. It's almost like Christmas, you know.
Starting point is 00:23:13 God's gift to us with Tebow. Yeah, that was a big story yesterday. In the middle of the week. Well, there's a lot of skepticism about Jags potentially signing Tim Tebow as a tight end. And apparently the same attitude is circulating among the Jags coaching staff. According to Jeff Darlington, there is serious disagreement within the organization about signing the former quarterback. Beyond the emotional side of this and beyond the wonders of why is just the reality that it's really not practical. It's really not likely to work.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Urban Meyer would say, hey, I'm going to add anybody to my team who has the potential to better this organization, to which you could look at this and say, how is this going to better the organization? There's really not very much upside at all. You're asking Tim Tebow out of the league for eight years to become a new position. That's like asking a punter out of the league for eight years to become a kicker. Well, they're both kickers. Not really. They're specialists.
Starting point is 00:24:05 To be a quarterback and a tight end are two totally different positions. It's like saying, well, you work at a hospital. Yeah, but a pediatrician is not a brain surgeon. They're both doctors. Well, if punters and kickers were the same position, tight ends and quarterbacks were the same position, and why do you need extra roster spots for those specific positions? They're not the same job. And the tight end position, I would argue this, Joy, the tight end position in football has changed more than any position in football.
Starting point is 00:24:33 It is now often where you put an incredible athlete, you know, for years and years, it was like if you couldn't block, you couldn't play the position. It's like Travis Kelsey's not going to block. Nobody cares. The bottom line is Kyle Pitts from Florida. He's not really a blocker. He went forth. The bottom line now, it's the place where you put that six, five and a half. athlete.
Starting point is 00:24:56 That has two good of hands to put on defense. Like it's become, you start looking at the tight end position in the NFL and you're like, they can become leading receivers. Travis Kelsey is their top target. So Tebow seven years ago wasn't athletic enough to be tied in. Now the positions become hyper athletic. Well, Tebow hasn't been great since college. He had a moment of good.
Starting point is 00:25:22 And I mean, listen, everyone laughed at the baseball thing. I think he did well at baseball. I mean, he did better than a lot of baseball players have done over the years. It was a fun story. It's a fun story. And look, people are mad at the opportunities that Tim Tebow gets.
Starting point is 00:25:36 And I understand that. It feels very unfair. It's more about who you know than what you're actually capable of. But with this situation and what Jeff Darlington is referring to is what you don't want to do in bringing in Tim Tebow is leave so many questions about how it is you are actually building. your organization. Are you truly interested in bringing in the best people for the job? Because there's no question there are better people for the job than Tim Tebow. Of course. It's without question. The worst tight end that got cut last year in the league is better than Tim Tebow right now. Of course. So what is the actual reason? You floated a theory yesterday.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Pension. Which could entirely be possible. Right now Tim Tebow is vested three years in the league. So his pension is around a little less than $20,000. A year. A year, yes. If he's vested as a four-year player, it goes up significantly. Doubles. I mean, it's very difficult to get the exact numbers on all of this. But if he basically plays three or four more games and he's vested as a four-year player,
Starting point is 00:26:41 it's going to go up significantly. Like, it's going to go up to $60,000 or $70,000 a year from $20,000. Now, that doesn't seem like a lot. But if you play three more games in the NFL, hey, I get extra money for, coming in as a check every year for the rest of my life. Now that seems a bit hacky that you would sign Tim Tebow to play three games for that amount of money that Tim could
Starting point is 00:27:00 probably make doing an appearance. It's just, it feels a little force. It feels like there's too many questions around it for it to be just, yes. So the lions were on the phone with a final offer to trade up when the Falcons were on the clock with the fourth overall pick. They obviously ended up taking
Starting point is 00:27:16 Kyle Pitts. But in a video the Falcons posted yesterday from inside their draft room and their war room Atlanta general manager, Terry Fottano, takes a call from the Lions when the Falcons are on the clock. Ooh, let's see. Hey, what's up, man? Good, good. You got Detroit on the line, you too.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Yeah, we're in there. It's the same. It's what we talked about. Okay, yeah. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Okay. So the GM and presumably the Lions GM have a short conversation that they show there.
Starting point is 00:27:52 basically saying this is not a better deal than we had already talked about. We're going to go ahead and pick and take Kyle Pitts. Now, we don't know who the lions were targeting. They obviously ended up taking Penae Soule at 7. Which is good because Gough needs a good old line. Now, Jared Gough's a different quarterback, bad O'Line, good old line. I honestly think Kyle. I like that pick.
Starting point is 00:28:12 I just, I'm so curious to know who they were trying to trade up to take. They couldn't have been trying to trade up for Penae Soule. Who, are you talking Detroit? Yeah. Oh, I think they wanted Kyle Pitts. Can you do that if you're Detroit? I think Kyle Pitts is so great. They lost Kenny Gawaday.
Starting point is 00:28:32 I actually think Detroit's better off, actually. Kyle Pitts works with a veteran quarterback, and I like Atlanta's O-Line. Right. Jared Goff needed Pane Sewell, or he wouldn't have time to throw to Kyle Pitts. That's what I'm saying. I actually think Detroit and Atlanta got the perfect player for them. But you think that Detroit was trying to take a swing for Kyle Pitts? Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Yes, I think they were. I don't think, I never bought into this. Carolina is going to draft another quarterback and Detroit's going to draft. I never bought those stories at all. I mean, I don't know. I'd like to know. I think you're probably right because why do you make that move for Jared Gough? And I think that Jared Gough is good enough that you can build around him.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Like we've seen it begins the right coaching. If you give Jared Gough three and a half seconds, he'll complete passes. He shows when it gets down to three seconds or two seven five, it's not the same quarterback. I think so have to fall apart. All right, well, Oakland's, I don't know what to tell you. Oakland Athletics reportedly have permission from MLB to seek relocation with the team's current ballpark situation in limbo. The A's have been trying to get a new stadium for years, but the plans keep getting tied up by government officials. According to Jeff Hassan, the current proposal involves the athletics privately funding $1 billion for the stadium.
Starting point is 00:29:46 The team is asking for an $855 million commitment from the city for infrastructure improvements. and they're also seeking $400 million to be funded by the taxpayers. Good luck. In California, getting that. Well, according to the mayor's office, the city said it's willing to bear its resources to help make the vision of reality. However, the requests for public investment at the high end of projects of this type nationwide, they're not. Bottom line is Silicon Valley has trillion dollar days. At some point, if the A's are going to remain in Oakland, go to Silicon Valley and say, hey, any of you guys,
Starting point is 00:30:22 like baseball will give you a big chunk of the team. You can't ask taxpayers to pay $400 million in the city of Oakland for a stadium. No, not in, especially in California. New York and California, good luck going to your taxpayers and asking for more money. Anywhere. We just came out of a pandemic. We're still in a pandemic, actually. Like, we're still in a pandemic. You can't ask before the pandemic you couldn't ask for this money. But $400 million for a stadium is absurd. I get it. the stadiums do bring in an incredible amount of revenue to the cities.
Starting point is 00:30:56 They can provide a boost for the communities that they're in, or they can do quite the opposite and not provide a huge influx of money into the area. I mean, a great example of this is Marlins Park, which was funded by the taxpayers and was pretty much the crown jewel of why you don't get taxpayer money to build these stadiums anymore. Boondoggle. That's been a total boondoggle. The park is beautiful. It's great, but it was supposed to just have all the stores and shops and it's
Starting point is 00:31:24 nothing. It's a billion dollar organization. You make plenty of money. Pay for the stadium yourselves. You cannot ask taxpayers to give $400 million for a stadium. Good stuff Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The herd lie news.
Starting point is 00:31:40 All right, we're getting close to the playoffs here. And you can tell in the last couple of, in the last four or five games, you can tell the league gets more amped up. I mean, the Lakers and the Knicks last night, at the end of those games, those teams were playing playoff defense. Like the Nakers were desperate, and the Nix, who don't have a lot of offensive juice, couldn't get their own shot. I watched the Clippers Nick Sunday. It felt like a playoff game. You can feel now the effort
Starting point is 00:32:02 ramping up some desperation for teams here and some seating. Let's bring on Nick Wright, my buddy, first things first, brought to you by Mercedes-Benz the best or nothing. I said this yesterday about the Nix. They're a regular season team. If you play hard, you go in half your games, but everybody plays hard in the playoffs. And they'll be exposed. But I will say this. For the first time in 20 years, I like watching them. I kind of feel like they've, there's something, the house has a foundation. Well, your thoughts on them overall.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Well, my thoughts on them are if they happen to move back up to the four and get Atlanta in round one, then they could win a playoff series. They could beat Atlanta. Anyone else they play in round one, they're drawing dead against. whether it's Miami, Milwaukee, or Brooklyn, they've got no shot. However, what is more, and it's a great job by Tibido, great job by Derek Rose, and Julius Randall's having a phenomenal season, where the Knicks matter to the bigger NBA landscape is this.
Starting point is 00:33:07 If you watch that game yesterday, Colin, that's what they do to everyone. They beat the hell out of you. And if you are Milwaukee or Brooklyn, and you have real championship aspirations, The difference between getting the Knicks in round one versus Charlotte or Atlanta or one of the other teams you could get coming out of the play-in moving up to seven is massive. The Knicks are going to take a hunk of flesh out of whomever they play. So all of a sudden, that three-seed is not as attractive as it would be. It's going to be very interesting to see where the Knicks fall because whomever they play,
Starting point is 00:33:48 whomever beats the Nixon round one is going to be going into round two limping a bit, and I think that's going to matter. You know, it's funny. I hear all these Laker fans, oh, we don't want the Warriors. And I'm like, the Warriors are a tiny team. The Lakers at Drum, and they're a huge team. I would like the Lakers in that matchup. But in your opinion, are you concerned about the Lakers in a one game situation if LeBron's back in AD?
Starting point is 00:34:13 Are you concerned about a playing game for them? No. I don't think the Lakers are going to end up in the play-in, because I think Portland's about to lose two out of three, and the Lakers will slide to the six. But if when LeBron comes back, he doesn't look immediately fully functional. If it looks like he's going to need some time to ramp up, not only am I not worried about the play-in, I would argue the play-in could be preferable than going into the playoffs. as the sixth seed and facing the clippers in round one. You know I did not at all believe in the clippers last year, and while I don't believe in them as a championship team this year, they are better than they were last year.
Starting point is 00:34:59 And people are like, oh, the play and the play in, the play and there is no concern of the playing. The warriors would have to beat you, and then the spurs or grizzlies would have to beat you two days later. That's not happening. I think the bigger concern is if Schroeder's just getting back off the COVID list, If AD is still dealing with little nicks and bruises, and LeBron doesn't have his wind yet,
Starting point is 00:35:22 and immediately in the first round of the playoffs, if you're the six seed, you get the clippers. That could be tough. I think what would be preferable to that is staying at the seven, waxing the Warriors or the Grizzlies in the one-game play-off, play-in, and then you get Phoenix, or you get Utah, neither of which can deal with the Lakers. So that's the long way of saying,
Starting point is 00:35:43 the play-in does not concern me in the least. I think it actually might be preferable in some circumstances. Listen, I never get more hate mail than when I criticize Tim Tebow. And I said yesterday, it's time for somebody to tell Tim. It's time to get a real job. That's right. Baseball was fun. Football was great.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Like, you've been out of the league eight years. Go be a broadcaster. You're terrific at that. That's my takeaway in the Tebow thing. He's a nice kid. Everybody feels like, oh, like my daughter to marry Tim Tebow. But this is like folly. right? Like you don't buy the Tebow thing to the Jags.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Colin, you said he's a nice kid. He's my age. And Colin, if I had been out of broadcasting for a decade and I called you up, you're my Urban Meyer, and I'm like, Colin, I think I've got to get back into the game. I need you to give me a gig. Do you know what you would do as a friend?
Starting point is 00:36:42 You'd say, Nick? The dream's over, buddy. you had a good run or maybe you didn't. But either way, this is not, at some point you got to get a real job. And at some point, you've got to move on past
Starting point is 00:36:58 what was your childhood dream. I, my seven-year-old, God lover, you know, these days, this will make you laugh. She doesn't want to be an actress. She wants to be a YouTuber. And so good for her. Maybe that'll work out. But if when she's 35,
Starting point is 00:37:13 she's like, Dad's still going to be a YouTuber. And I didn't say, honey, you got to get a real job now. Somebody, what you said yesterday is spot on. And I am, you know Urban far better than I do, but I have massive respect for Urban Meyer. I'm shocked he's doing this. Jacksonville, to me, had great momentum. They hired the right coach, and they got the lottery ticket of Trevor Lawrence, the winning lottery ticket of Trevor Lawrence.
Starting point is 00:37:41 why they are acting like this is a literal minor league baseball team and you've got to bring in the little person to take it bats and then the seven footer to take it bats to draw fans into the stands. This is the NFL. And so I don't, I'm surprised by this. I don't get it. I have no reason to believe he'll be good at it. And it just doesn't seem like something Jacksonville,
Starting point is 00:38:08 which finally had some positive momentum, needed to do. Yeah, I think the reason you hired Urban Meyer was to feel bigger, and this makes them feel smaller. Finally... Yeah, I agree it entirely. Yeah, I like Cleveland this year. I do not like them at all with nine new defensive starters at Arrowhead Week 1.
Starting point is 00:38:26 I think it's the one game I looked at and I thought, good God, if there was one game Cleveland didn't want, you wouldn't mind playing New England week one. Belichick struggles in September. You wouldn't have minded that Packer game week one. because it seems like Aaron Rogers resents the organization. Brown's Chiefs Week 1. I imagine you like Kansas City in this one?
Starting point is 00:38:51 Well, yeah, I mean, I'll probably, I'll do win loss like you do win loss. And it's going to be hard for me to find a loss for the Chiefs. They're angry. They got the new left tackle. I mean, I'm not saying they're going to go undefeated, but preliminarily speaking, probably 16 and 1 with them resting people in week 17. Yeah, anybody that had to come to. Arrowhead week one, it was going to be tough.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Yeah. The Browns, what I will say for the Browns is this. Their last experience in Arrowhead while it was a playoff loss, it's not like they got totally outclassed in that game. Now, Mahomes went down, which changed the trajectory of it. But I actually think that can be a, here's why I think it can be a good thing for Cleveland. If everyone can agree, the road to the Super Bowl goes through Arrowhead, which since Mahomes has been there, that's the case.
Starting point is 00:39:39 they've gone to two and the one they didn't get to Brady beat them in Arrowhead. You get to see how close you are. Immediately week one, you get to see, all right, we're measuring ourselves against the best in our conference. Where do we need to get better? Where are we already good? What are our deficiencies? And then we hope to see you again for months from now.
Starting point is 00:40:00 So I don't think it's a terrible. The only terrible outcome possible is if the Browns somehow win, and that's a terrible outcome for you. I'll be fine. The Chiefs will be fine for Colin. If Baker, after winning a playoff game, probably fresh off a new contract goes into Arrowhead, Joy, you better be ready to step in because first Monday of the NFL season, Uncle Colin might have the Baker flu. Might miss a, might miss a Monday NFL show for the first time in years. But I don't think that's going to happen. Either do I. First of all, Mahalms in September. What's the, not only is he 10 and 0. What was the number? 32 and O touchdowns, interception.
Starting point is 00:40:39 32 touchdowns, no picks. He's a good player. He's a good player. I think he's going to do well. All right, buddy, good seeing you. Nick Wright. All right. Great stuff.
Starting point is 00:40:49 By the way, you know, people just say awful things to me when I, you know, say that Tim Tebow to the Jags feels like a Ted Lassow story. Players are not going to buy that in the locker room. But it is interesting. One of the comments about that from apparently somebody inside the organization. Not everybody in Jacksonville likes it. Some thoughts on that coming up.
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Starting point is 00:46:08 And I do think Jacksonville's Gator territory, so it will be accepted in Jacksonville. It would be laughed at in New York, laughed at in L.A., laughed at in Denver. Big cities would just roll their eyes, laughed at. But I do think in the South in Jacksonville, which is really a better college football town than a pro football town, you know, people will buy into it. But Urban Meyer went on the Chris Collinsworth podcast yesterday and extrapolated, kind of gave the story context, which I thought was a smart thing for him to do. We have not signed to him. There's a thought going around. You know, he was in the best shape of his life,
Starting point is 00:46:45 asked to see if he could work out with a couple of our coaches. I wasn't even there. And they came back to me and said, wow, this guy's in the incredible shape. And I said, then I went another time and watched him try him out. And they said, go work on these things. He comes back later. They try him out again.
Starting point is 00:47:01 I'm not there. And they come in and they said, wow, you know, this guy's ball skills. He's a great athlete. He looks like he's 18 years old. 20, whatever he is, 33. And I said, guys, you don't understand. Now, this guy is, you know, he's the most competitive maniac you're ever going to talk to. And let's give it a shot.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Tim was also the most competitive maniac in minor league baseball and in better shape than anybody at AA. He still couldn't hit. Tim was in the best shape I've ever seen any NFL quarterback. Remember that shot when he was walking in the rain in New York with his shirt off? and he couldn't throw football. If being in great shape got you to the pros, then every HGH and steroid freak at Gold's gym would be in the NFL. But they all walk like this because they're stiff
Starting point is 00:47:51 and they're over-lifted and they're not athletes. They just look good with their shirt off. And Tim looks great with his shirt off. I'll give an example. T.O. is still ripped at 47. Shannon Sharp at 52 and Ocho Cinco. T.O. has one of the best NFL bodies of all.
Starting point is 00:48:07 time. He tried out for the Seahawks in his late 30s. He took his shirt off, worked out, and he looked the part, but he couldn't separate. And T.O. at one point, was a great NFL player. Tim Tebow was bad. I know he had a win streak. I know. I know. We all know. But he is a notch below Taysam Hill athletically. And Taysam Hill, in my opinion, not a franchise quarterback. This is not anti-God or anti-Tibo. It's pro-reality. Is that if being in shape mattered or being a maniac mannered,
Starting point is 00:48:49 well, then Tim Tebow would have been a star in baseball and a star in football. It doesn't matter. Tim Tebow is 6-2. There are no 6-2 tight-ins in the NFL, especially now. He's never played tight-end. he was not particularly athletic when he did play he was just he had a dream he had a love he had a passion but he was a four seven 40 guy that that that's not cam that's not kiler murray that's not lamar jackson justin herbert bigger stronger faster better arm faster but justin herbert's a
Starting point is 00:49:24 much better athlete than tim tibo in every box but Justin Herbert hasn't put his faith out there. He didn't win a Heisman. He didn't win a national title. He's not iconic. He's just way better at everything. So it's not anti-timed. But if you know, you can wear the chef jacket and you can buy new knives.
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