The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 05/14/2021 - HOUR 1 - Brady, Lance

Episode Date: May 14, 2021

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In for Colin Cowherd. Colin is off. I believe if I trolled him on Twitter, feels like Chicago is where he is. But I don't know. Chicago's a great gateway city to so many other places. We're not a lot of football today. Last week of the NBA season is upon us. Major League Baseball in full swing.

Something's going on with hockey. I'm not really sure what it is. No, it's playoffs, I think. I think. But look, we continue to react to so many things from the NFL draft, getting ready for the NFL season with the NFL schedule being released just two nights ago. I was looking at the schedule, and I've never been. schedule guy, right?

And you know a schedule guy. We always make fun of schedule guy. It dates back to Mike and the Mad Dog, that's a win. That's a loss. That's a win, dog. Dog, that's a win. Right? That's what a date. That's every man, mail it in radio. Let's look at the schedule and there's a win.

Look, they're coming off Dubai there. And it's like that's, we could do that. We could do that. I love when Colin does his over. and unders as soon as he sees the schedule come out. Keep in mind that while the actual, you know, lining up the opponents and the dates and all of the travel and the Thursday night, the Sunday night, and the Monday night was what was announced.

The truth, the opponents had previously been announced. So the fact that the Green Bay Packers, for example, have a ridiculously difficult schedule. One, they had the best record in the NFC last year. And two, two, you're not. already knew the opponents, like all of these things you knew to be the case. So I was trying to think, I was trying to think of what's left to discuss or what hasn't been discussed, what hasn't been discussed, or what is like, ever make a meal for somebody? Did this for my son the other night, right?

Well, you cook something and you prepare everything and then everybody's eaten. And then you're like, oh, my God, I had that really good casserole in the oven, you know? I can't forget. We brought out all the desserts and I had that apple pie that my mom made that I forgot to bring out. I have something that I think hasn't been discussed at all or enough. And it is what's different about this year and why we can't use the past. We want to use the past. Like, well, you know, in years past, so on and so forth.

For example, I'm going to be fascinated by the saints this year and how they play on the road. You're like, well, why does that matter? Well, technically, yes, their team is built to play indoors and they've been a bad road team. But one of the reasons they've been a bad road team and built to play indoors is their quarterback was old with a bad arm. And the dome covers that up. The dome and altitude increase the distance on every throw that you make. This is, it's actual science, right? Actual science.

And so you take Drew Brees off of the Saints and the, I think, common perception is you take him off the Saints. And because he's one of the great quarterbacks in the history of the sport, I don't think he's one of the top five, probably not one of the top 10, but a historically great quarterback who's won a Super Bowl nonetheless and had the Saints very, very competitive up until his final game. But we make the assumption that they'll be worse because, well, when Denver lost Peyton Manning and Peyton Manning wasn't even any good, they took a dive.

Well, their defense also got worse. This is a team that was preparing for him to leave. They have at least they have two guys who have started and won games in the NFL. and they have a litany of talented players, there's a chance that they're better and maybe more than anything, they could be better on the road than they've been. But even that is not,

even that is not what, that the casserole in the oven, the untouched pie that you forgot. Here's the part that you forgot. You know they're playing 17 games this year, right? Yeah, we're playing 17 games, pushes the season back. Like we're getting closer and closer to ending the,

idiocy of playing the Super Bowl a week or two weeks before we get to President's Day weekend. Playing on President's Day weekend. That way everybody has the Monday off. That way you don't feel like the game is late and the West on the East Coast. All right, it's late. Nobody's got school tomorrow. No big deal. It just makes sense.

I understand that there's a math to viewers and how they've always watched games. But I'm just thinking out loud here that even though it's President's Day week and people go skiing and people get out of town, it is the Super Bowl and it's bigger than anything else and they'll still watch. Maybe not. Maybe I don't sit with Michael Mulville of Fox and understand the actual metrics of it. But the 17th game is a game changer. It's a game changer. You know, they have this thing in sprinting where, and a little bit of it came up last week

when D.K. Metcalf ran, what was it, a 2-3, a 10-36? Was a 10-36? 100 meter dash? I'd be like, well, he tied for last. There's only a 10-3-6. Like, yeah, we weighs like 40 pounds more than those dudes. Well, you know, it doesn't, 40 pounds doesn't, yes, it does. Have you ever lost five pounds? How do you feel? Imagine losing 40 pounds. Like, why didn't he lose? Because he's got to play football. That's his actual day job. This was just something that he trained for short people. period of time to do. He drops 30, 35 pounds and suddenly he's potentially sub 10. But the point is that there is a limit to how fast a human body can move. And we've pushed up on the edges of that limit year after year after year. And many times in

which we've broken through, it's because you've had performance financing drugs. There's just a limit. Like we're never, they're not going to see sub nine hundred meter dashes. I don't believe. It's a limit. It's a limit. there's science to it. There's a limit to how many football games you can play in a given season. There's a limit. One of the reasons that so many college football players didn't want to play in a spring college football season was there's a limit to how many games your body can take. And whatever you want to say about offseason practices, I want you to think about this.

We're coming off of a year where you basically had contact-free practicing. You had very limited off-season, limited regular season practice. The games, while intense, did not have the same intensity that could possibly have when you have full houses and full stadiums and important games in the playoffs and in the Super Bowl, right? Even in Green Bay when you had a smattering of fans and they lost the Tampa Buccaneers or when Tampa, you know, like, no, that doesn't equate to a full house in Lambeaufield. So you go from that to, now you're going to have fans in the stands. And look, if you've seen the schedule, you know the hype.

Anyone who's like me is like, yeah, kind of like watching it on TV. But I haven't been to an NFL game in a couple of years. Now I get a chance to go. You're going to go. The places are going to be packed. The Raider games are, I mean, have you seen the prices for Raider game tickets? No one even thinks the Raiders are going to be any good. and they have next to Tampa, New England,

five highest price tickets already. Why, Raiders, Vegas, Allegiance Stadium, awesome. Yes, the Chargers are going to play 16 road games, but those teams, those eight teams that come in to, excuse me, 17 road games, but the eight teams that come in to L.A. are all going to bring raucous fans. NFL games, college football games,

are just going to be like summer travel. We have all been pent up, And so we're all, if you ever thought about traveling around the world, around the country, you're going to do it now. Which is going to increase the level of intensity of every football game. And you couple that with the fight that the NFLPA is having, which is kind of silly, really, if you get down to it. Keep in mind, the NFLPA agreed to a 10-year extension of the collective bargaining agreement last year.

They just agreed to the deal last year and like, you know, we didn't really tackle this OTA thing. You signed the contract. Show up when you're supposed to show up. Anyway, I was, Tom Brady was on a podcast. I want you to take a list to what Tom Brady said about the knee surgery.

We were talking about minor knee surgery. Listen to Tom Brady talking about the knee surgery he went under. I had pretty serious knee surgery this offseason, which is the first surgery I've had in about 12 years. So I was really interested to see how it was going to go because last year it just took a lot every week. I was kind of tending to my knee and I thought I would love to see a season what it looks like when I'm not, you know, when I can really focus on some other strength stuff that I want to do some other technique stuff where I'm not just focused

on protecting my knee all the time. So Brady painting this as a positive, hey, my knee will be fine because last year I was playing with a bad knee so I couldn't build the rest of my body because I was constantly worried about rehabbing this knee. But my knee. my point is different. Doug Gottlie, Benford-Finn, this is the herd on Fox Sports Radio app. It's that we're trying to make assumptions about a season, the likes of which we have literally never seen. And it's not just about Tom Brady,

but Brady is the perfect example of it. He's budding up against 44 years old. And we can say it was the knee. He was terrible in the second half against Green Bay. three interceptions in the second half. They won in spite of, not because of him, in the second half. Great in the first half, especially the first drive. Last throw of the first half was amazing.

Not in any way taking away from what he did in the first half. And they didn't win the Super Bowl because of Tom Brady. They won because the defense dominated the game against Pat Mahomet. Right? Like, we're all reasonable about that. But the idea that he's a year older, he's coming off of knee surgery, we're now longer playing in front of empty houses instead full houses that are going to be absolute vicious raucous atmospheres and oh yeah by the way there's a limit to how much

beating a body can take and we're adding another football game you want the truth on what people really think in the NFL it's going to look like once we get to week 18 nobody has any idea this sport like any sport baseball's the same and BAs the same. They're wars of attrition, right? He who is the healthiest generally wins the most, right? Why couldn't Kansas City protect? Well, Tampa has a really good defense front,

but they also were without essentially their entire starting line. The Packers didn't have David Bactiari. It's kind of a big difference when you're facing the Tampa Buccaneers. So the idea that we have any idea what rosters will look like at the end of this season, And oh yeah, by the way, the 17th game, like they're crazy incredible games. They're games like Green Bay at Kansas City. It wasn't like they added in, hey, let's add in a game against McNeese State. No, no, no, no, no, no.

They add in the best of the best of the best. Just because it makes them more money. Like, we're going to play a 17th game. Let's do something TV wants to say. Let's get some great games out there. Awesome. Here's the problem. There's a limit.

to what the body can withstand. And to me, it's just me, it's the casserole in the oven, it's the pie that, ah, we brought that dessert, we brought the ice cream,

we brought the chocolate cake, we got the, we got all that other stuff, right? We got the smores for the kids. I forgot the apple pie. People forgot, this is a different season, different.

And if you don't prepare for the likelihood, not possibility. It's a likelihood that many of your star players are going to be injured within or at the end of a longer, more arduous schedule than we've ever seen before. You're preparing yourself for failure.

And it's an unknown that you have to prepare for. But the known is the more games, the more beating on the body, the more likely to be injured, including the older quarterbacks that are coming off injuries or just older, Every little injury lasts longer. All right.

Coming up next, Christian Fourier, two-time Super Bowl champion, joins the show. What, from his perspective, does that extra game do to the rosters in the NFL? Plus, Brady, week four, New England. Feel like Farrv going back into Green Bay in a Vikings uniform to anybody else? We'll discuss next.

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It's like, I don't know, it's called All Ball on the Herd podcast network. Joining us now here on the herd is Christian Fourier. By the way, I've worked with Christian at a couple different places. One of the most enjoyable dudes you will actually find in real life. like it's just that's why two-time Super Bowl champion host on WEEI OMF show Monday through Friday at 2 o'clock Eastern time let me I want to get to obviously week four everybody's going to talk about it on top of the quarterback situation with the paths but let's start with this you play in this league for a long time the 17th game how big a game changer is that to players and their bodies

oh my god you know what Doug you know since they've completely wussified you know the week before the game. They don't practice and pads. They don't hit each other. They do a lot of walkthroughs. I don't think it's a big deal at all. Honestly, God, I don't think it is. You just,

you killed my first segment of the show. You killed my first segment of the show. Let me, let me take it to, again, the non-football players thinking, okay? This is the, you're the player. I'm, I'm the hooper.

I, the non-football player is thinking, okay, which is the, the attrition of the NFL. I, last year, yes, they have wissified it. last year there was like no really no camp no no hitting at practice no nothing right small groups or whatever and they play games and though they had good intensity now you go from that to the intensity of think of the stands this year and how people just missed going to football games right and they've loaded up the schedule with all these made for TV games my guess is again this is the non-player

guess is man the the intensity of those games is going to be at a maybe not playoff level, but just below kind of playoff level, and you add in an extra week to the season, and they didn't add in an extra buy week, I think there's going to be far more injuries because there's be far more attrition than their traditionally is. I'm wrong because of- I don't know.

I mean, I guess just, you know, by doing, you know, great school math, if you add one more variable, I guess you could get, you know, multiple outcomes. But I'm telling you, the one thing the NFL players are trying to push is how difficult and how tough it is. is it isn't. It is, even last year, with the exception, you know, so they did a lot of Zoom meetings, you know,

but the year before that, the NFLPA regulates the amount of times you can practice against each other. Sorry, the amount of times you can practice in pads going back to camp. So it's a lot of walkthroughs anyways. Like, the league is completely changing as far as the amount of wear and tear they put on your body. So they add one more game. And I think people, think, oh my God, that's one more chance of you getting hurt. Well, they also took away a preseason

game. So in the end, you're about the same. But you, you know, kind of like, you know, draw it up and add it up however you want. I personally don't think it's a big deal. Personally, I would say the one thing that the NFL players are trying to push is that is that very fact right there, that narrative that you just mentioned, the attrition, the wear and tear. The season always starts off crazy. Guys go, go, they use everything they have in them. then it always slows down, and then it ramps up again towards the end of the season, and then each playoff game is increasingly tougher and more physical. But it isn't as I just don't think it's as bad as people think it is.

And I played 13 years back when they never gave you a day off. It's a great point. Can I just tell you a little bit more on my point? Sure. Let's share. There's one more playoff game, right? There's more playoff teams, which makes, and I understand that the NFL, unlike the NBA and maybe Major League Baseball, you know, Major League Baseball, you add in the minor league guys at the end of the season,

the stats aren't the same. And the NBA, you know, they've had traditionally, they've had these teams that are tanking, so your stats last month the season aren't the same. But again, if you look, take the NBA as an example. Now that we have this play in tournament, now there's far more teams engaged and the games are far more competitive from the fourth spot. they don't want to fall into the playing in game to the 12th spot, the things they want to get to the 10th spot, right?

It's worked. My guess is that there's those last couple games when you're like, look, even if you limit practice, you still have, you know, the car accident effect to playing in an NFL game. You're going to have far higher level of intensity late in that season. Yeah, I don't know. Like there was, I wish I had the numbers in front of me, but, you know, they did a bunch of studies.

the NFL PA did based on knee injuries, hamstring poles, and everything related to inactivity or less practice time. And they were all better than the year before. They still had injuries, especially non-contact injuries, which doesn't matter what you do or where you go. I'm not going to say it's not something you should think about, but I don't think it's this, you know, this, you know, totally change of, you know, mindset as far as like what you have to do,

it's one extra game. And you know, like by the time you get through midway through the season, they will be, you know, 10 teams that are out of it. They're completely out of it. Their quarterback got hurt. This guy got hurt. I mean, look at the San Francisco 49ers last year. Great example.

Play in the Super Bowl, they lose the very next year. Everybody gets hurt and they only make the playoffs. So, you know, sure it's going to be competitive because it always is. Sure guys can get hurt, but that's just the business of football. Like it's always there. It's a 100% injury rate. Okay, you're always going to get hurt, nobody's at 100% ever, ever.

So, I mean, I also feel like there's a aspect here of negotiation with the NFL players and the owners and, you know, what the players want, what the owners want. And, you know, it'll eventually, you know, rise to the correct level. And everyone, it'll be obvious what everybody wanted from the beginning. Christian Fourier joining us who works in Boston Radio, WEEI,

every day at 2 o'clock Eastern time. Doug Gottliebun for Colin. This is the Hurt on Fox Sports Radio, IHeart Radio app. Okay, let's start with the Pat's quarterback situation. I get that Cam didn't have the traditional training camp. I get that he had COVID and he looked worse after COVID. And anybody who's had COVID will tell you it's a long road back. But when he last played in Carolina, I talked to an NFL GM and he's like, look,

He doesn't throw the ball right. His shoulder's not right. And it didn't look right all last year. It's the only explanation for why he's never been crazy accurate, but it was to the level that I understand they didn't have players last year. I get it. And they tried to hide it and run the football and shorten the game. And they've done a really good job.

But do you mean to tell me they're going to try Cam Newton out there for 17 games? The way he's looked the past couple of times, he's thrown a football? You know, the thing that stands out to me the most is just the amount of excuses that other people make for Cam Newton. And what's worse for me is the excuses that he makes for himself. It's nauseating to the point where I can't stand it anymore. Sure, he got COVID, okay? He missed maybe, I think, one day where he wasn't engaged with the team. Everybody else was out of the facility, and he was still involved in the install.

So he had a crappy game against the Denver Broncos, and they almost came back in one. But that's it. He admitted that he was never in a COVID fog. Okay? And this whole, like, didn't have a traditional offseason, didn't have the practices. Neither did Justin Herbert. Neither did Joe Burrow. Justin Herbert jumps into a game.

Tyron Taylor, they get stuck with a puncture his lung. They throw his ass in there without a traditional offseason, without traditional training camp, with no preseason game. The dude almost beat the Kansas City Chiefs, but he made a bunch of stupid rookie mistakes. I can't deal with it anymore, Doug. Like, it's amazing. Like, the Patriots are going to be good. They're going to be more importantly competitive because they added so much talent. And they were seven and nine with Cam Newton, as bad as he was, and the lack of weapons

and the lack of just overall personnel, they were seven and nine. Yeah. Okay? So you add all those guys on defense. You add all the guys on offense. you could easily be a playoff team even if Cam Noon is average to below average, which I think he will be.

So to me, it's still a win. Okay, but are they going to throw Mac Jones out there, or are they going to throw Cam Newton out? Personally, I'm starting Mac Jones. Let's just say, okay, let's say you're 11 in 6 or something like that. I forget, like, they added a game, so I'm always getting the numbers. So they're 11 and 6 with Cam Newton, okay? Let's say they're 9 and 8 with Mac Jones.

I mean, to me, I'm okay with 9 and 8 and Mac Jones. I'm okay with that. And then maybe getting into the playoffs, possibly with 11 wins with Cam Newton. So because Cam Newton's not going to stay there. Cam Newton is not going to be there next year. He signed a one-year deal, $3 million with a bunch of incentives. You know, so I think if I am, if I'm the Patriots, and if I see a, enough of what I think I need to see for Mack Jones, even if it isn't perfect.

I am starting him day one. I am starting him week one against the Miami Dolphins. It's going to be rookie on rookie, basically. Just to a dog of Iowa. He's basically still a rookie in my book. He barely played last year. That's the play I would make. Start getting him ready now.

Christian 4-8 joining us here in the herd Doug Gottlieb filling in for Colin. Fourth game of the season, Tampa comes in. Tampa's going to return 22 starters. It's Tom Brady. he's got a ton of weapons and you know it's already now the highest price ticket on the secondary

ticket market. What are Patriot fans? What's their reaction? Because when Favre came back with the Vikings, you know, the Fav thing was retire, come back,

retire, come back, retire, come back. No, no, no. We're good here. He went to the Jets for a year. But then he went to the arch rival. That's like, it's like Brady taking a year off

and then going and playing for Buffalo, Miami. If Brady was in Buffalo this year, Miami this year, that's what it would be more like, what do you think it's going to be like in Gillette when he trots out on the field? Yeah, you know, in that game, I think that was, Minnesota ended up losing that game. No, they won. No, no, no. Minnesota, he won the first year. He lost the second year. Okay, all right, yeah. But that was a very highly rated regular season again the first time he did it.

So what is it going to be like when Tom Brady comes back? back, I think the biggest issue is like, what's the emotional feeling going to be for Patriot fans? Because I think they're going to be torn. I mean, it's like, you know, your dream, you know, sports car going off a cliff with your mother-in-law in it. You're kind of like you're emotionally torn. Are you happy? Are you sad? I mean, it's one of those things where you just don't know what to feel because everything is wrong.

Like, Tom Brady shouldn't be running out of the tunnel of the visitor's side. wearing a different jersey and then setting up going on the visitor's sideline. It all, nothing makes sense. Personally, I think it's going to be nothing but cheers, tears, and applause. Like, it's just, I don't think Patriot fans can allow themselves to hate on Brady, especially knowing just kind of what he went through 20 years of his life, what he put up with, that whole thing. I think it's going to be, it's just going to be an unbelievable event, obviously.

But as far as how people locally react to it, I mean, they're obviously excited, but I think it's nothing but respect, love, and admiration. I mean, it's going to be so, so, so. I mean, I don't see how it could be. There's no way a Patriot fans are going to boo this guy. No way. Zero chance of that happening. It didn't be one knucklehead, but ultimately they're going to wish they were part of it.

They're going to be jealous that he's not here, but they're not going to boo him. how hard is it you've won it? How hard is it to repeat? I mean, this is a team. They're bringing everybody back like let's, and I think we make the assumption that, you know, and they weren't a great team last year.

They were seven and five. They were up and down, kind of disjointed. Then they had the buy week. And people point out that they got hot late. Like they played four of the worst teams in the NFL late. Yeah. They weren't great against Washington.

But then the defense just, you know, Brady led them and gave him a first half kind of boost against Green Bay. and then the defense kind of took over. But now it's, now you're, what's the heavy as the head that wears the crown, right? That's the old Shakespearean quote.

What is it like that second time around when you're the champs and you're everybody's biggest game? Well, I will say this. A couple things. The last team to bring back all 22 stars offensively and defensively was a 1977 Oakland Raiders. They came back the very next year with all the same guys, lost opening week against the Denver Broncos,

who ended up representing the AFC of the Super Bowl. Super Bowl, and then they ended up losing, but they may make the playoffs. So what's it going to be like trying to repeat? Because we were the last ones to do it. First of all, I remember walking in the very first day of the regular season after we won the first Super Bowl, which would have been ultimately the second one, the 2003 Super Bowl against the Carolina Panthers. What Bill did is he put a list of like five teams, the last five Super Bowl winners,

and one of the teams, and then how they finished the very next year. year. Every one of those teams that won the Super Bowl, including the Patriots of 2001, did not make the playoffs the next year. So it was an eye-opening kind of, you know, reveal for, I think, everyone who walked into the building every single day, because you would walk in straight, you would turn right, the cafeteria is right there, and there was that big board with all the other Super Bowl winners, and then their record the year after. To me, that was eye-opening. You know, we had a, and so I think Everyone knew that if we really wanted to repeat, we couldn't just roll our helmets out there and act like people are going to respect it just because we won it last year. We knew we had to earn it, you know, and it didn't hurt that we had Brady going into, you know, another big game and Bill.

But ultimately, there's a lot of work. There's a ton of work that went into it, a lot of discipline and a lot of sacrifice. Christian, you're the best, man. I hope you're having a great spring. Oh, you're the best. having a great spring, even a better summer, man. Love catching up with it. Let's do so in person.

Appreciate you joining us. Yeah, man. All right, you guys. Have a good day. Christian 4. A two-time Super Bowl champion with a Patriots now host on W.EI in Boston. OMF is the show Monday through Friday, 2 o'clock Eastern time. And by the way, none of that is fake.

Like, just all-time great dude in my book. Let's get to Rye Music with the News. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Heard Line News. Well, Doug, good morning to you here on the West Coast. I suppose it'd be afternoon now on the East Coast. How are you, man?

I'm good, dude. Good to catch up with you. We'll start with some NBA. Good to be caught up with. Good to be caught up with. We'll start with some NBA before we get into some NFL stuff. The you and Christian we're talking about the Knicks. Doug, are the Knicks officially back?

Is that where we're at? Do we officially consider the Knicks back? They got to win last night over the Spurs, keeping them in contention for a home playoff series. currently in sixth, only a half game back of the Hawks, though, who are in fourth. The Knicks did clinch a playoff spot earlier this week for the first time since 2013. A major reason why? The play of Julius Randall, clearly having the best year of his career so far.

He is eligible for a multi-year extension worth up to $106 million with the Knicks. He also told the Victory podcast, he loves playing in New York and he wants to retire as a Nick. when the contract extension is coming and you're a beloved Nick it's like look eventually if you're not you're not competing for a championship they're going to turn on you but this marriage so far honeymoon phase has been amazing and and look this is the Tom Thibito this is what he does right he can for the most part he can turn him around and get him competitive and competing every night the question becomes how do the Knicks take that next step

And they have been here before. Before they made the Carmelo Anthony trade, they were close, right? They were a feel-good story. Galinari was young. They had all these dudes. And instead of waiting on Carmelo-Anthony become a free agent, they made the trade for Carmelo-Anthony, which did take them to one Eastern Conference finals, okay?

Let's not let's like not diminish that it was a complete failure. But in shedding all of the young talent, it took away from who they were. So I think if they're just patient, yeah, they're on the right path. They're on the right path. The question becomes, with Leon Rose running the organization, you know, everyone has thought that he's going to bring one of his former guys, Carl Anthony Towns, for example, you know, one of his former guys to town. But you just got to caution yourself.

Carl Anthony Towns from Jersey, super bright guy, super talented guy. But how many years do you have to play in the league on bad, teams were like, I don't know if he's the solution, considering the fact that he hasn't exactly solved the problems in Minnesota. Yeah, we'll get to the NFL stories next hour, but I'll wrap with this on the Knicks. It does feel like they're almost going to be the newest version of the Clippers and the Brooklyn Nets to where you have this young budding roster of players and you're trying to create that culture, but ultimately that, you know, the Apple will lure you into taking a bite. The forbidden napping will lure you into taking a bite of it and going after the major star and totally upending. And look, you know, for the Clippers, maybe it works out this year for the Nets. If they stay healthy, you know, maybe it ends up working out and that's just the way of the NBA. But it certainly feels like things are trending that way. This is the problem with, I think, our mentality as fans. Like, it's fun to watch the Nicks.

Totally. Even though they're not going to beat the Nets in the playoffs. They're not going to beat the Bucks in the playoffs. Not going to beat the Bucs in the playoffs. It's all a zero-sum game of championship or no. championship. Right. This is what we gotten to. It's like, would you rather win a championship with guys who you bring in from other teams and their mercenaries, or would you rather at least be competitive with guys who are homegrown or, and I know they got Julius Randall from New Orleans, you know, by way of it, Los Angeles or whatever.

Big ticket free agent. Correct. Correct. So with that in mind, like, I don't know, this is a little bit more fun to me. And if you top out at Eastern Conference finals, like, isn't that enough? Most people will tell you know that you play to win championships. I don't know. They're fun to watch.

They're competitive. And Julius Randall has figured out. And he's a walking bucket, a walking bucket from a guy who really struggled with elements of his game, but has worked and worked and worked to become a star scorer in this league. That's the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The herd line news.

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the dumb stuff, right? And I think it's, you know, it's like the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, you know, it's, right? Don't attack Russia in the winter. Like, it's the most obvious historical reference, like, you dope. Why would you do what a guy who failed previously did, unless you think your ego is out of control, right? I mean, I could even use a far more recent reference, more recent reference to make a little bit of sense, a little bit of sense to you.

I don't know if you guys saw this earlier this week, but there's a star player in high school basketball named Patrick Baldwin. Okay. Patrick Baldwin chose the University of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, where by the way, my dad used to be the head coach, over Duke. Now, his dad's the head coach.

It's a job saver. He's probably only going to be their year. But at least a portion of it is the fact that one of his closest friends is Jalen Johnson. Jalen Johnson, also from Wisconsin. 6 foot 9, going to be a first round pick, played AU basketball the previous year, with Baldwin,

and if you remember, he's the one who left the team mid-season, Upsom, didn't work out with Coach K. And so I, like, though I would have probably, it's a, I mean, it's a hard one, right, if you're Patrick Baldwin,

like, if I go to Milwaukee, I save my dad's job, you know, we have some fun together. it's one year at minimum one year of playing for my dad. It's pretty amazing experience. Or I could go to Duke, be a part of the Duke Mafia, maybe win a national championship,

play for the greatest coach in modern college basketball history, maybe modern basketball history, and then go on the NBA with that Duke branding, you know, like Zion Williams. That's a hard call. But you look and you're like, well, it didn't work out for Jay. and Johnson like, maybe it's not for me.

Let's look at the NFL. Let's look at the NFL. Trevor Lawrence, going to start week one. Zach Wilson, going to start week one. Yahoo Sports is predicting Justin Fields week four. I don't know. That one will be interesting because the bears curiously have been here before. Remember?

Now, it wasn't Andy Dalton. It was Mike Glennon. and how long could Mike Glennon hold off Mitch Tribeskey. Yahoo Sports predicting Mac Jones not until week 11. But what about Trey Lance? Now, you have to keep in mind that I don't care what Kyle Shanahan says. There's enough reputable people who know Kyle Shanahan and people I've talked to who used to work with Kyle Shanahan

that say Kyle Shanahan was totally into Mac Jones. And they drafted Trey Lance. Now, I've talked to enough NFL people that'll say, like, Trey Lance has incredible potential. But if we look at the landscape of the sport, right, who are the three best quarterbacks? Who are three best? Pat Mahomes, Aaron Rogers. Do we want to throw Russell Wilson in there? It wasn't great last year, but do we want to throw him in?

You guys okay with that? Even if we throw Tom Brady in there, okay? as the most successful quarterback in the history of the national football league. Again, these are, if you're hoping for success, your quarterback is Jimmy Garoppolo. Now, I don't think the reason they're moving on from Jimmy Garoppel is because he's hurt all the time, right?

Stop it. He's hurt all the time, so we're like, nah, it's not why you. It's not, that's not, that ain't it. That just is not it. No, that's not possibly what it is. I think that's a portion of it, right? Part of ability is availability.

It's a portion of it. It's a frustration. The bigger part is that the big throws he had to make to win a Super Bowl, he simply didn't do it, couldn't do it. They don't believe in him. But he's good enough with that team with Nick Mosa to get you to a Super Bowl, right? So you have a starter in place. Did Tom Brady start his first year?

No. He appeared in one game. And the only reason he got into his second year was because I think it was in the second game. Yeah, the second game, Drew Bledsoe got eviscerated. If Tom Brady, Aaron Rogers, and Pat Mahomes all sat their first year, why wouldn't it be smart to sit Trey Lance

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