The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 06/08/2021 - HOUR 1 - Nets, Chris Paul, Aaron Rodgers

Episode Date: June 8, 2021

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IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, FS1. It is great to have you in. Yonis is a two-time MVP. Chris Paul can't get nominated. You see, what happened last night. It's why we call the MVP a useless award. Joy Taylor.

Good morning. Yeah, the internet couldn't wait to tell me a couple days ago how ridiculous that take was. So I'm sure we're going to catch it today. But I already agree. Well, I mean, you could certainly, let's start with this. You could blame the head coach. That's like a cottage industry. Blame Mike Boodenholzer.

I tend to not blame the coach. But I think in this instance, he's done nothing to adjust. I mean, the game was over like six minutes in. I think Boudenhulzer is on his way out. That's why I said, fire Brad Stevens at your peril. By the way, if you're wondering why the Celtics move Brad Stevens upstairs, this is it. Because he would take over for Boodenholzer,

and the Celtics would have to face Brad Stevens for the next seven years. That's a different day and a different rant. But, I mean, it's not Budenhuser's fault, nor would it be Brad Stevens' fault if he coached the Bucks, that Chris Middleton is now 13 for 4. and Drew Holiday, who's a very good player, can't stay in front of Kyrie Irving. Good luck, nobody can. Milwaukee does not have the ammo and a very weak game plan.

This feels like Tom Brady last year in New England, where he's screaming at receivers, they just don't have enough ammo, and you're trying to beat Kansas City. You know, we say it in the NFL all the time, and it's kind of understood now. Like, we don't even argue this anymore. When all else fails, like draft a wide receiver. they're just so much more valuable than a linebacker in today's game. If you've got a coaching opening, hire an offensive guy. Yeah, but Sean McVeigh is only 32.

Higher an offensive guy. Just figure it out later. Dak Prescott, $40 million. Half the league thinks makes complete sense. Like, we understand that in football. The rules have changed. Just it's almost negligence. If you don't draft a wide receiver every year, I'd argue too.

I mean, look at what Green Bay not drafting a receiver has done to the Aaron Rogers Packers relationship. It's an offensive league. Well, this is what is happening in the NBA. Now, they took the hand check away over a decade ago. You can't use your forearm to lean on guys. But now the game is so international. Basketball is so international, there is an explosion of offensive basketball talent

in the world right now, coupled with the defensive limitations. It's a picks and screens, even if you're a great defensive player, you can't stay on your guy. When all else fails, just draft offense. I mean, Katie Kyrie and Hardin, for the first time ever, a basketball team in the playoffs, the playoffs is where the good defensive teams are in the playoffs, is going to shoot 90% from the free throw line, 42% from three, threes, and 50% from field goal range. Two's. That's never happened before.

I mean, Trey Young, a flawed player who doesn't really care about defense, is carrying Atlanta. You can't stop John Morant. Zion is breaking Wilts Chamberlain's records. Luca is breaking Michael Jordan's records. Dame is breaking everybody's records. And Steph is breaking Dame's records. You can't stop anybody. We understand in football, higher than,

offensive coach. I mean, Tibbs, great defensive coach. Nick's, great chemistry, great defense. Can't compete in the playoffs. Brooklyn is a poor defensive team, not even top 20. Irrelevant. We just got to come to terms with basketball right now, the world's best basketball players, and it is a world's game. Monies with the offense. The coaching monies with the offense, the plan money, the bench money, the assistant money. Steve Nash has never coached. Dan Tony, doesn't matter. Offense.

That's the name of the game. Get more players. This entire series has been such an advertisement for offensive basketball. I mean, Milwaukee does everything right. They play defense. They've got their chemistry. They've got the veteran coach. They've got health.

None of it matters. Just throw Katie and Blake Griffin and Kyrie and Hardin, although he hasn't played much yet. They'll just figure it out and they'll win. And I just think we just got to come to. terms with it. When Trey Young got drafted, I remember just hearing people. He can't play defense. He's too small. He's got attitude. It doesn't matter. You can't stop him. It doesn't matter. I mean, like there were a lot of people argued, jaw over Zion. Can we both make this argument? They're both unstoppable. Zion's breaking Wilts records. Jha will blow through all of Westbrook's

records. So, I mean, I just, I think when you, when you see what's happening with analytics and basketball is, I mean, this is really an amazing thing. Durant and Kyrie Irving, two games against the bucks, 60% from the field, 50% or 7, 57% from three point line. And if you notice this, I noticed it a lot, not only with Steph Curry, but you're really noticing it now with Damien Lillard's out of the playoffs. You notice it with Luca. Is that it used to be when guys hit threes, they were close to the line.

They're not even close to the line. closer to the logo. And this is what is happening in the NFL, is that young players globally in basketball see where the money is on shooting three. So that's all they do. Young kids always start trends. Well, it's the same thing in high school football. The great kids all want to play quarterback and wide receiver.

California has 39 million people. On average, the last five years, two legitimate big time running backs. each year, 25 wide receivers, eight top quarterbacks. Everybody comes to California to get the quarterbacks. Michigan does. Pack 12 schools do. Alabama just did. Clemson just did.

Notre Dame just did. The California is a culture center, is a trend center in this nation. The kids here are smart. There are no money in running back. Money's a quarterback and wide receiver. You can't believe how many great quarterbacks and wide receivers there are. And you watch basketball right now and you watch football. The money's in wide receiver,

running back. The money's in offense. Hell with defense. I don't want to hear it anymore. Stop drafting bigs who can't shoot. Stop worrying about defense. Just go get Tre Young. I mean, Milwaukee does everything right. Can't compete in the series and Hardin's not even playing. Nothing Brooklyn has works in the playoffs. Bad defense. Rookie head coach. Hardin's hurt. Chemistry that never play together. All blown out because they just got better offensive players. By the way, I'm not against it. I'm here for it. The games are fun.

Okay, so Chris Paul. Oh, Chris Paul. I don't know if anybody remembers I thought Chris Paul should have been MVP. But the MVP like the Heisman Trophy is overwhelmingly useless. It is about stats. And, you know, let's be honest about this, is that in the NBA, you've got to be really good to stars or they shut. you out. So Chris Paul's getting old. You don't have to vote him MVP. He's not going to shut you out. But you want to make sure you take care of the stars, all the writers. But last night was a prime

example. Denver takes like a 10 point lead in the third quarter. It's the moment. It's the moment. This is where we need you. This is where the MVP step up. From that point forward, how was Yokic? Not great. He's going to win an MVP. From that point forward, trailing by 10. Chris Paul went six for six, rest of the game field goals. Three for three free throws. One for one on threes. Let the sons in points, assist, and let everybody in the building in plus minus. That's called an MVP. Seize the moment. Not about the first quarter, not about the second.

And what's really amazing about Chris Paul, and this is not a little thing. It is a massive thing. we all know last year was an exception. Young guys were good in the bubble, right? The playoffs are about veterans. The playoffs have always been about old guys. LeBron and Kauai and James Hardin and Kevin Durant and Step Kirk. That's what the playoffs have always been about.

Dame, not about kids. Chris Paul goes to Phoenix. He's playing with kids. DeAndre Aiton's 22. Booker's 24. Cam Johnson's 25. McHale Bridges 24. And what makes that more impressive?

So Yokage has been in the Denver system with the head coach for six years. They were out of sorts because they lost Jamal Murray, right? Chris Paul has been in Phoenix seven months with kids. And add this in a condensed season. This has been a bad year for practice. Like this was the worst practice year in league history. Nobody practiced. Guys, you're playing too many games.

You know, every other night you got a game. Have time for practice. are getting rest. And Chris Paul walks in in seven months. And this is what you get. Phoenix has been a disaster for 11 years. Last three, it's all the same guys. Like, does everybody understand what he's doing here?

Seven months, bad practice year, condensed schedule, a bunch of kids, they're great. We so undervalue in basketball, intelligence and feel for the game because they're so hard to quantify. It's not a stat. That guy is smart. prove it to me. He's got a great feel for the game. Prove it to me. I don't have a stat for it.

Westbrook's got great stats. But Westbrook doesn't play smart basketball all the time. He doesn't have a great feel for the game. Chris Paul, new system, new coach, new teammates, young kids. He not only wins, he wins instantly everywhere. New Orleans, Oklahoma City, Phoenix. He goes to Houston, won 65 games with a difficult at times to play with James Harden. So, you know, I've always had this feeling.

The smarter people in the world figure stuff out more quickly. Chris Paul's Einstein and the NBA. You can give them a new coach, a new system, condensed schedule, a bunch of kids. Overnight. I mean, Phoenix was good three weeks into the regular season. He figures it out. Boy, that is smart. That is having a feel for the game, which you can't quantify.

That is being smart. And there's no data for that other than my eyes. It's like Tom Brady. When Tom Brady went to Tampa in 2019, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were the second youngest team in the NFL. Old man Tom goes there, synthesizes all of it. Super Bowl. This is a bunch of kids.

All Phoenix's best players are kids. Chris Paul not only glues it all together. He does it in the first month of the season. In Oklahoma City in the first month, he left, implodes. It's almost like it's invaluable. or most valuable. Chris Ball. All right.

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Let me just say this. In terms of just football, let's just talk football and not personality. it doesn't matter that he's not there. It doesn't matter. Tom Brady, no OTAs, no mini-camp, no pre-season. New staff won the Super Bowl. Aaron Rogers had no OTAs, no mini-camp, no pre-season, and won the MVP. L.A. Rams coach Sean McVeigh proved it to us.

The old Neanderthal ways of football off-season is a bunch of nonsense. If you're a top veteran player, you do not need. to take a snap, a snap in the preseason or a minicamp. Forget OTAs in minicamp and that's all this is that Aaron's missing. The preseason's overrated for Aaron Rogers. Listen, if you're going to ask players to play now 17 games at a regulated level of violence, cut back on the offseason nonsense for the veterans, Jordan Love needs the snaps.

I mean, let's be honest. He needs the snaps. I mean, Andrew Brandt used to work for the Green Bay Packers. He had a tweet this morning that to me said it all. Quote, the Packers would never admit it, but they'd be fine with Aaron skipping minicamp and some training camp. When Farve stayed in Mississippi those off-season, we've got to see Aaron run the team.

Great evaluation period. Packers now do the same with Love. This means nothing. This is all pettiness, right? Aaron is sticking it to them and Green Bay can then stick it to Aaron and find him. I do think there are these moments in business and life in sports. They're tipping point moments. And I do think when Tom Brady went to Tampa, no preseason won a Super Bowl,

it affected two players mostly in the NFL, two other NFC players who have to compete against him. Russell Wilson. Russell's like, time out. got to get me some help. If they can re-sign all these players, you got to get me some help. Seattle activated it, got him help. Gabe Jackson, new coordinator, new wide receiver, new tight end, drafted a wide receiver. And I think it affected Aaron Rogers, who said, how am I doing going to OTAs in minicamp?

I just won the MVP not doing it. And I'm not getting my way anyway. I mean, my team's not getting me players. We keep drafting developmental offensive line, developmental, side ends, a running back who's not going to start, a quarterback who's a prospect. So today's a defend errand day. And, you know, this used to be called a hold out. We've got to come up with a new term.

Hold on is the new term. If you miss OTA and a mini camp and you're a veteran star, it's not a holdout. It's a hold on. This really isn't necessary. And by the way, new rule. new rule number three on this show. Maybe it's for Joy's Keeping Count. If you're the MVP and the team drafts your replacement,

you can sit out minicamp. Let the new kid get the reps. Joy with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. I don't know how good of a job I am doing of keeping track of the rules. We have three or four.

We have a few of them. Daniel Jones, we will know by Thanksgiving. That's one. Don't criticize Aaron Rogers if he loses a shootout to Tom Brady. Two. I don't know the third. The third one is if you're the MVP and a team drafts your replacement, you can sit out minicamp. That's four.

Three is that you said you weren't going to move again, which no one believes. Although, I will say the process of getting the house redone might. Signals a change in Uncle Collins world. You might set some roots in here in Los Angeles and that new home. So Nick's head coach, Tom Thibodeau, has been named. this season's coach of the year. It is his first year with the team, and he improved the NIC's regular season record by 20 wins

and led them to the playoffs for the first time in eight years. It was a close race between him and Sunset coach Monty Williams, who actually received two more first place votes, but Thibs edged out Williams due to the total points because of several more second place votes. So this is the second time he's won. Coach of the Year was his first year with the Bulls in 2011. He won as well, and so he's the first year.

first person to be named NBA coach of the year in his first season as head coach with two different teams. Can I give a new award? NBA coach of the year after March 1st is Nate McMillan. Nate McMillan goes to Atlanta and they suddenly play a little bit of defense. You got to give them credit now. Atlanta was kind of underachieving. Nobody talked about it. We don't pay attention to Atlanta in the NBA. Since he got to Atlanta, the Hawks are a different basketball team. Now, I know that's not going to beat Tibbs in New York and what he did, but Nate McMillan, tip of the cap, a late season replacement, has done a great job for the Hawks.

He's done an amazing job with the Hawks. So Thibodeau was one, Monty Williams was two, Quinn Snyder was three with the jazz, Doc Rivers was four, and Nate McMillan was actually in fifth place with the voting. Oh, I'm glad he got votes. Yeah, yeah, he did. Now, a lot of people were upset about Monty, and Monty did win the NFL Coaches Association,

coach of the year. They improved the suns by 17 wins this season and their first playoff appearance since 2010. But, you know, it was close. Like, I think Thibodeau is a deserving winner of this. He actually gave the team a soul for the first time in 20 years. And it's a regular season award, too, which is why they should just award it as soon as this season is over.

So Luca Donchish is eligible for a max extension with the Mavs this offseason. And he was not subtle about his future when he was asked to he'll be taking it. Luca, you'll be eligible, assuming the all-NBA thing works out, you'll be eligible for the rookie Supermax extension. Is that something you intend on signing? Does that go without saying? I think you know the answer.

Dealers choice, Skyler. I'm not going to like you. I think you know the answer. So not a direct answer, but obviously it's a five-year extension projected at $201.5 million. he is the star there. Yes, he's going to take that extension. Yeah, the pressure is on Mark Cuban, not Luca. Lucas established himself as a all-time grade at 22. Mark Cuban has got to get him a two.

The Nelssohn, the GM, Don Nelson has to get him a two. They couldn't do it with Dirk. Now, they want a title, so they deserve credit. They patchworked it together, an older Jason kid. But it is, don't waste it on the draft. We said this yesterday. Don't get him draft picks. This kid's 22.

He plays like he's 28. Get him a star now. Go get him a star. We've clearly seen how the NBA, how you build in the NBA if you want to be a successful franchise winning championships. Now, you can be consistent building through the draft and having a system and all those things. But that's not what you want to do with Luca at 22, who is an offensive machine. I think that they put together a nice squad. And I think there's still obviously a few steps away, but they've got to lean into it. They've got to get him another star. That's all there is to it.

He's been unbelievable and he was carrying that team. And he deserves an extension and I'm looking forward to watching him in the rest of his career. So LeBron's season is over, but he has not moved on yet. He posted a video on Instagram from Gladiator, a clip from Gladiator, one of my favorite movies, top five favorite movie. With Russell Crow's character saying, I will have my vengeance in this life or the next. If you haven't seen it, I'm not going to do it. I can't do it. I've never seen it. No, I know it's the best movie.

I've never seen. I'm sorry, I've never seen the movie. I don't know if you guys could hear Ryan yelling behind me. I've never seen it. The only great movie. I'm stunned. I didn't see, there's another great.

You've also never seen Remember the Titans. Didn't see Remember the Titans, did not see. What is this called again? Braveheart. What is it called? What is it called? Gladiators. Gladiators.

You have never seen. No, not gladiators. Gladiator. Gladiator. It's funny because I've seen like nine Russell Crow. movies. This is his best movie. I know. It's crazy. Listen, I'm a very busy guy. I got a lot of kids. I can't see all these movies. Work it in, Colin. This is a great movie, but it's a very, it's a very influential line in the movie. I'm not going to spoil it for you, but this is a very important

line. Anyway, so LeBron is basically saying that he is, he's going to be back full speed. It'll be his 19th season in the NBA. Of course, he's played in 1,577 career games. He's going to be. He's going, both regular season and postseason. So he's played 267 career playoff games, including the playing in game this year. Ryan can't stop looking at me. I didn't see any of the Karate Kid movies either. I didn't see those movies.

Those were all popular. Is it fine? I didn't see any of the Karate Kid movies. I didn't see the first Karate Kid. I didn't see Gladiator. What was the other one? I didn't. Remember the Titans? Remember the Titans.

You would really enjoy Remember the Titans because you're a crier. Occasionally. You are a crier. It's okay. I'm a cryer too. I'm going to cry at Gladiator? No, no, no, no. I don't think you'll cry. I might have cried a gladiator, but I don't think you'll cry in Gladiator. You'll cry for Remember the Titans, though.

Nobody watches Remember the Titans and doesn't cry. It isn't Denzel in that one? Yes. Yeah. I've seen a lot of his movies, too. It's an amazing movie. I saw that airplane movie he was in. I didn't like that one. Airplane movie. Denzel was in an airplane movie.

Flight. I didn't like that. I've watched all those. It's funny. I'm watching all these guys' movies, just not the good ones. Yeah, it's a strange strategy. You've never seen Training Day either, huh? No, I've never seen that one. Listen, I like documentaries and independent films and weird stuff. Yeah, stop watching the weird stuff. The documentaries are great. You can keep watching those. Love documentaries. Just work in, remember the Titans, Gladiator.

I apologize to America. Training Day is a must. All right. My kids are watching a thing now on Netflix. It's called Money Heist or something. Yeah. Oh, my daughter, my son are. My niece loves that show. They cannot.

I mean, my daughter. It's supposed to be a really good show. Everyone I know who's seen it really likes it. If she has, takes a master's, she'll do a thesis on money heist. My kids can't get enough of it. Yeah. It's supposed to be a great show. All right.

Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Lie News. Chris Brousard, Fox Sports, brought to you by Mercedes Ben's the best or nothing. Hey, Bruce Ard. Have you ever seen Gladiator? I was just about to say if it makes you feel any better, Colin, no, I have not.

And I was ashamed to admit it until I heard you say it. So now I can say I've never seen Gladiator. By the way, he's got beautiful. But next time my wife and I are looking for a movie, I'm going to watch it. All right. So Bruce Sarge's also got beautiful kids and they're going, they're college kids and stuff. Bruce Ard and I are busy raising the future of America. You're right.

I have no children. That's why I have time to watch the best films ever. Okay. I did see Remember the Titans, though. All right. There you go. You got me beat on that. So, you know, I said to start the show, we understand in the NFL now, if you can

draft the wide receiver or a linebacker, just go get the wide receiver. If you're going to hire a coach, hire an offensive guy. Dak Prescott, overpay him. It's quarterback. In the NBA, we're getting to that point. John Morant, Tray Young, Luca, dame, Steph. Brooklyn does so many things that don't win in the playoffs. Defense, chemistry issues.

I'm watching this series and I'm like, Chris Middleton looks so irrelevant. I mean, have we reached a point in the NBA, Chris? We just got to get over a lot of stuff that we used to think was important. You get guys who are great offensively. It washes over everything else. Yes, you're right. And you talk to people around the league. You know, everybody might not feel this way,

but a significant number of people I've talked to feel like it's about offense now. And the fact, Colin, with the floor so spread, right? Everybody spreads the floor and offenses are out. That toughness and size aren't quite as important as they used to be. I'm not saying they have no significance, but it's not like it used to be. Now it's about skills. It's about can you handle the basketball? Can you shoot the basketball?

Can you create off the dribble? And what you're seeing in this Brooklyn, Milwaukee series is the immense difference in a skill level on these two teams. Yeah. Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving, because of their skills, are unstoppable, especially Durant because of his height. They're unstoppable. There's not one guy on Milwaukee that is unstoppable as great as Janice is because he can't

shoot from three, from 18 feet, from the foul line. He's not unstoppable. And you're backing up. They're daring him to shoot the three or shoot the jumper. And if he can't get to the rim, he has trouble scoring. And you brought up Chris Middleton and Drew Holiday. I'll bring up Drew. The Bucks, people were throwing out big three, just willy-nilly.

The Bucks big three. No, they don't have a big three. They don't even have a big two. All right. Big threes and big twos are guys that are going to the Hall of Fame. Drew Holiday and Chris Middleton are nice players. They're on again, off again, all stars. You better put a future Hall of Famer with Yannis and do it.

as soon as you can if you want to have a shot at winning the East anytime soon. Yeah, you know, let's shift to Yonah. So, you know, they're trying at some point you said this years ago, your game is your game. Okay, your game's your game. And you're never going to make Kyrie Irving a great defensive player. Like he's in his head, he's an offensive star. Your game's your game. And I look at Yonis, and they're trying to make him more of a shooter, right?

Like they got him shooting four threes a game. And it's like they want him to be KD. It's like, no, he can't hit free throws. Like, we got to be honest with the honest now. He's a very limited offensive player. And when you play him in a playoff series, Chris, so you see the same coaches, you can align a defense, he is becoming a regular season star

and a postseason liability, or is that too harsh? Yeah, I wouldn't say liability, but the expectation level is so high because he's a two-time MVP. He's, you know, an all-time great. People start looking down at him. And this is what the Bucks have to worry about. And I'll get back to your question.

As the pressure mounts on Janus, and he continues to go out in the postseason in the second round or second round, then he's going to start feeling the heat to win a championship. Same thing happened to LeBron James in Cleveland. I spoke to LeBron early in his career. I think he feels like us, three plus Chris Healy could have won a championship with him early in his career.

But as he began to lose year after year, he started feeling the heat. And he's losing the big threes in Boston. Orlando had a great team with Dwight Howard. Then you start to feel the pressure to go elsewhere. And Janus is only a couple years away from that if Milwaukee can't bring him what he needs. But there's a great, former great player who now works in the league. I wish I could give his name because it would give it even more credibility what I'm about to say. He is texting me and said, Janice is a two.

He's the second guy because you can't rely on him offensively. He doesn't have a shot he can go to to get you a bucket. And when I think about number ones historically, Colin, I can't think of one that I couldn't go to to get a bucket. Even if it was a big, a Shaq, an Elijah Juan, a Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Yes, they played in the post and didn't shoot jumpers, but they played in the post, and they could score down low or get fouled and hit free throws. Janus doesn't play down low enough. So now what?

He's a perimeter guy that can't shoot. And so they have to get like a Duane Wade was for LeBron. LeBron wasn't as limited, obviously, as Janus, but a Duane Wade, a Kyrie Irving, like that for Janus to really have a choice. chance to get further in the playoffs. So Chris Paul last night in the third quarter down 10 takes the game over. It's funny. Monty Williams not going to get coach of the year. Chris Paul can't get nominated for MVP. Somebody's got to get credit there because they weren't good before those guys got there. But it was interesting. I said this earlier. Chris Paul is the opposite of Westbrook.

He's not flashy. He's not a stat monster. But he, he's not a stat monster. But he, he's, he's, he's, he's, plays so smart, whereas Westbrook can play out of control. And Chris has a feel for the game Westbrook's never had. Chris, it is amazing to me that New Orleans, Oklahoma City, and Phoenix, he not only wins, he does what LeBron can't do. He wins instantly. Phoenix has a bunch of 23-year-olds. It's a condensed schedule, Chris, so this was a bad practice year. It just played with the, it was, It was not a year for practice. You did not have an extra day. It wasn't a good film or practice year.

Isn't it kind of amazing? I don't even know what his comp is. That in seven months in Phoenix, and they won the first month he was there. What does Chris Paul do? LeBron doesn't create chemistry like this initially. What is? Is it just raw intelligence? I mean, LeBron obviously leads to immediate success, too,

but they do it in different ways, as you said. And look, I voted Manny Williams, my coach of the year. I had Chris Paul third on my ballot just for the record. All right. But Chris, this is a perfect situation where what it is, Colin, is he's so smart. He is a basketball genius. We throw that at LeBron and that's true too. But Chris Paul is a basketball genius.

And Phoenix is the perfect situation. Oklahoma was as well, but they didn't have the talent. Phoenix is a young team. So nobody, you know, they're young. And a lot of these guys, remember, they grew up watching Chris Paul. So they know the legend. They know he is a future Hall of Famer and all time great. So they're watching him.

They admire him. So when he comes to the team, they're listening. They're all ears. Okay. Then they've got the talent, DeAndre Aiton, Devin Booker, and then a few other guys. Booker has been in the league now several years and had all this individual success, put up big numbers, but never gets the love or the appreciation he should because they don't win. They haven't even made the playoffs.

All of those things make the teammates listen to Chris. Now, where do they have issues with the clippers? They had a bunch of veterans, you know, some who had won elsewhere. Yeah. And they weren't trying to hear Chris chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, right? And these guys are willing to listen to it offensively and defensively. He can call out the opponent's plays and things like that.

on the defensive end. So it's his intelligence, and this group is listening to him. They're all ears. They're not bothered by him, and that's why they're having success. All right, game one tonight, Clippers, Utah. I'm going to take the jazz tonight. I got to see, you know, they say styles make fights. I got to watch them play.

I don't know who Utah has to stop Kauai. I do like Utah on the game tonight. Your thoughts on the series in tonight. Yeah, I like the Clippers in seven. I know that's saying a lot because that means they have to win in. Utah in game seven. But I agree with you tonight. I think the Jlippers are probably going to be emotionally spent after that series with Dallas.

So I think, you know, then they're going on the road. It's a little, it's a little altitude up there too. Big crowd. So I give Utah the game tonight. It's going to be interesting because Utah moves the ball and shoots. They got one guy that can break down the defense, and that's down the defense. and that's Donovan Mitchell. So I think Mitchell is going to have to be big in the series

and create opportunities for his teammates at the three-point line. But I like, it's two totally different stylistically, two teams that are different that way, but I like the Clippers. I think, Colin, the Clippers are the best team remaining in the West. Now, that doesn't mean they definitely win it because I think these four are pretty close, but I think the Clippers have the best roster. and I think they're the only team left that can give Brooklyn some problems if they meet in the finals.

Well, yeah, they have some defensive guys that do match up pretty well with Brooklyn. Chris Broussard, who is also not seen Gladiator, and I am proud to say that if there's two people on the planet that haven't, I'm aligned with Chris Broussard. I'm good with that. Chris, good seeing you. All right, Colin. You bet. By the way, little item here that is substantial on Aaron Rogers.

he's talking to somebody else now behind the scenes DMing do you know I got a DM last night from an NBA superstar did I tell you that you did not NBA superstar I posted something and he wanted clarity NBA star I can't I can't tell you post it huh where'd you post I'm not going to talk about that I have relationships I have a close personal relationship with an NBA star who DM me it was funny I told a buddy I said, you know who just DM me, blankly, blank? And he's like, that's like the greatest thing in your career. It's like the rest of your career stinks. Who cares?

That's the greatest moment in your career. And then I stopped following that friend on Instagram. So, yeah, I am Uncle Colin. America's honesty broker is now collaborating and discussing. You know, I was just going to start guessing who it is now. I'm not going to get into, listen, I have to protect my sources. I'm a fan of this player. He's a source?

So you just asked you a question. or make development to a source. That's a good point. He's not a source. He's just an admirer of my work. He could become a source. That's the key. Journalism works that way. Good to maintain these relationships.

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It came out of Ball State. One of the best players ever out of Ball State. And now he's got a podcast with Rashid Wallace called Let's Get Technical, which is the most appropriately named podcast in the history of the business. You should be on their podcast. You covered both of them. At the time, I was the bad guy, right? although

Well, that's when you were a local guy, right? I was local back then. They were a fun team to cover. They were good. I had tons of talent. So this is something. I don't think Aaron Rogers not going to OTAs is anything, and I don't think Aaron Rogers not going to minicamp matters at all.

Don't care. He's the MVP. Don't care at all. Don't find him. Don't be petty. Just as an organization, sometimes individuals are petty. probably shouldn't be. So ESPN Milwaukee, I take it this as a radio station.

There's a guy there named Jason Wildy. And when Aaron talks to local people, he is one of the few guys that Aaron had a relationship with and trusted. So he had a tweet, this is something. He said, I don't think that Rogers has drawn a line in the sand that says there's no way on God's green earth I'm coming back. So that now makes four people close to Aaron Rogers, guys he talks to, that have all said it's fixable. Jason Wilde, James Jones, who's on our show later, A.J. Hawking, John Coon, the fullback.

All have said basically the exact same thing. It's fixable. So that is something. That means Aaron's talking to them. What would fix it? Well, we all know what would fix it. Get rid of the general manager. not Mark Murphy, but the GM.

So, and I said today is a defend Aaron Rogers Day. Let's simplify Aaron Rogers' anger to just the next 60 seconds on this show. Go look, do it yourself, Google it. It works. Google the last two drafts for the Green Bay Packers. They have drafted a project at quarterback, can't help now, are running back in the second round with no chance to start, six offensive linemen, five are developmental.

Only the center from Ohio State will play. And a cornerback in the first round that's a reach. He's not going to be an impact player now. So whereas Josh Allen gets the Stefan Diggs? And whereas Patrick Mung Holmes gets Joe Tuny in an offensive line that can help now. And Brady resigns his guys. And Russell Wilson gets Gerald Everett and Gabe Jackson. And Jimmy Garoppolo gets Trent Williams.

all help me now guys. Aaron's saying, the last two drafts, it's all developmental guys. So I'm not going to go practice with developmental guys because they're not going to make an impact anyway. These guys aren't going to play. So when you draft a project quarterback, a running back that can't start,

if you go look, I mean, one of the positions, Green Bay, they have a tight end right now, like it was a late round guy that's become great, but he was a developmental guy. So all the other star quarterbacks are getting, Help me now, guys. He's getting developmental drafts. Folks, if I needed a producer and Fox gave me an intern, I'd be pissed.

If I needed a producer to work on my show tomorrow, I'm not interested in teaching a 23-year-old kid that went to UCLA how to figure this stuff out. Get me a producer now. So Aaron's anger at the GM to me is justified beyond just the lack of communication skills. It's support Aeron Day on the herd. Hour 2 next. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy,

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