The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 06/16/2021 - Best Of The Herd

Episode Date: June 16, 2021

Colin reacts to Kevin Durant’s incredible performance against the Bucks and why it feels like the Nets are setup to win the championship. He shares the latest on Kawhi Leonard’s status for the remainder of the Jazz series and what it means for the rest of the playoff landscape. He also puts some blame on Aaron Rodgers for the drama filled offseason the Packers have dealt with so far. Plus, Nick Wright from FS1 joins the show to talk about Durant’s big night and if the Clippers season is over after Leonard’s latest injury.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We're wearing yellow. Just one time a year I wear it, and Joy is wearing a yellow dress, I swear to God. You never wear yellow. We did not plan this. It's just the way it worked out. I can't believe it. in the air. You know what it is? It's the summer. It's my favorite time of the year in LA. People

are at the beach. Happy. Happy. The sun's out. Masks off. Free. It was so weird. I was down at the promenade yesterday and like walking into a store fumbling with my mask and they're like, you don't need it. How good does that feel? Oh, it's like chicken noodle soup. It's great. It does. It feels like freedom. It's great to have you in today. You ever watch the news, especially like seeing. or Fox News or MSNBC on cable and they'll have an expert, military expert, political expert. They just throw that word around. Like everybody's an expert. The other day I'm watching a show and they're talking about UFOs and they had a UFO expert.

And I'm thinking, how can you be an expert in something you've never really seen up close? It's hard to be an expert. Like to me, an expert was like a veterinarian with animals. That would be an expert. But everybody on these networks is throwing out expert. He's an expert on UFOs and military and foreign affairs. And I'm always a little skeptical. I'd like to introduce you to an expert.

Kevin Durant is an offensive expert. In offensive basketball, that's what an expert looks like. He can dribble. He can fade. He can hit threes. He can drive. He can finish. He can slash.

He is a complete offensive machine. Do you know how exhausting it is to play four. 48 minutes of an NBA game. How exhausting that is. That's a 9,000 calorie burn. And it's not like KD's got an extra pudding. He's the skinniest great player ever. He plays an entire game, 49 minutes, 17 rebounds, 10 assists, has to defend.

That was an all-time performance. And what's just remarkable, you know, the last five seasons in which he's been healthy at the end of it, he has been the best offensive player on the best team. So this is not a surprise. And that game, I mean, if you really think about it, now that LeBron's older and is out, there really is no competition for the best player. Because this has always been a 75-25 offense over defense league. Yonnes can't shoot.

Kyrie has struggled with injuries. Dames a small player. Luke is too young. AD can't stay healthy. M. Bede's got injuries. James Hardin has no playoff credibility. Kauai, he's hurt again, kind of a. a question mark.

This is now that LeBron's out. LeBron's always been sort of the roadblock. Now that he's out, this is Kevin's League. It should be Kevin's league. The last five seasons in which he's been healthy at the end, he's been like the best player on the, you know, best team. And it was really funny watching this game last night. It is, did you notice how emotional Durant was and Steve Nash was at the end of that game?

Like Kevin's not on the floor. He'll be frustrated time to time, but he's not a fist pumper. That's not really his thing, right? He's kind of stoic sometimes. Did you see how emotional he was? Because I think Kevin knows last night's win. They're in the finals. I don't care about Philadelphia.

I don't care about Atlanta. I don't care about the bucks. I think Kevin knew I got to buy time tonight. Kyrie will come back eventually. It's probably the next series. And Hardin was obviously going to be rusty. he was that first quarter it was like has James ever played basketball? I think Kevin knew.

Can I buy us a night? That's it. I just got to get us a night. If I can get us through this, it's the same way I look at the football season. When Joy and I go into a football season, you can't take a day out for five months. And I always look at Thanksgiving.

If I can get to Thanksgiving, I'm not sick. I'm ready to go. I can see the next Monday I show up after Thanksgiving. I can see light at the end of the tunnel. I can see Christmas vacation. I thought Kevin Durant at the end of that game, he knew, okay, if I can get past tonight, Hardin's not going to be really good.

He's not going to be 100%. He's not going to have his timing. He's not going to be able to really defend. And he got him through it. I mean, that's what an offensive expert looks like. To be that effortless and that efficient in the biggest game of the year against a supposedly great defensive team.

Again, what's amazing about great players, and I know we talk about him nonstop, but I've said this multiple times. Does everybody understand how much greater like Peyton Manning, Brady, Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, Durant are? LeBron, think about this. Every time Kevin Durant in his entire career,

after maybe his rookie season, goes into a game. The whole game plan is, stop that guy. And nobody can't. I mean, that's what greatness is. Kobe, for most of his career, we've got to stop Kobe tonight. You looked at film at Kobe. Nobody was sitting around breaking down film on Derek Fisher or Brian Shaw.

When you really think about how great Peyton Manning was, he got everybody's best shot. Like defensive, I've talked to defensive coordinators. They're like, oh, yeah, it's Peyton Manning Week. It's Tom Brady Week. where you don't want to be humiliated. Like Milwaukee does not want to be humiliated when they play Kevin Durant. Hardin's not 100%. Kyrie's not playing.

So Milwaukee, this great defensive team knew just stopped Kevin. They couldn't stop him. There wasn't even a speed bump. I mean, what you watched last night is the Jordan 63 points against the Celtics. He lost that playoff game is everybody knew Michael. You've got to stop Michael. We can win. Nobody could stop Michael.

why when we say when people come up to me and go, you guys talk stars too much. I'm like, do you understand how much better? And Chris Middleton's a good player. He is a 19 point of game NBA player. Do you understand how great the truly greats are? Chris Middleton's not getting doubles. And he's giving you 19. Kevin Durant's the whole focus of Milwaukee last night. The coaching staff, the players. And that's what you get. I don't. want to hear about UFO experts. I'm done with UFO experts. That is an expert in offense and Steve Nash afterwards in awe. Historic, historic performance. I mean, he played the entire game. He barely missed. You know, we know he's capable of nights like this, but to do it tonight,

you know, we lose Kai. You know, James obviously is soldiering through, you know, his ailments. were down bodies, we're wounded, and for him to have the toughness, the mentality, you know, that's what makes him one of the all-time greats. And so this is a performance that, you know, a signature performance, you know, for Kevin. And it was beautiful to watch. And you could tell what Nash and Katie's reaction,

they could tell, we just got to get past tonight. And they did. All right, this is devastating news for the Clippers. that's really bad, it could get way worse. Kauai is out for game five against Utah. That's a game tonight. He's out. Utah's going to win.

Now, you can't put him on Donovan Mitchell. He's going to just bring down the house and you don't have to guard Kauai. Now, Paul George is your primary score and that is a role Paul George has not always been comfortable in. The Jazz are going to win. They're going to win going away. And according to reports now,

Leonard has told teammates, be prepared. I may miss the series. that's not great. You know, I was talking, we see all these injuries. I was talking to Gary Payton yesterday. Gary Payton, the glove, is a Hall of Fame basketball player. I grew up in the Northwest. He played at Oregon State and with a Sonics great player.

Gary Payton played no fewer than 80 games, only three times in 17 years, that he played fewer than 80 games. And when it was fewer, it was like 78, 79. And in that era, there were harder fouls. You got pushed around more. You didn't have state-of-the-art treatment like now. There was more fatiguing travel and Gary Payton never missed games. And I ask him, everybody's getting hurt. Is it luck?

Is it a condensed schedule? And he said, he said something very interesting to me. He said, you know, the more power players get in any sport, the less they have to practice and the less conditioning you can demand of them. And he goes, when I played, I had to guard guys that were like Michael Jordan Strong. He goes, I didn't get hurt because I was lifting. I would be in the facility for five hours lifting for three. That's just not the way the game works.

In the NFL, offensive lines have gotten so bad. I mean, I'd never even talked about offensive lines. My entire career doing this. In the last five years, it's all I talk about. That's why I like the Cleveland Browns this year. Their offensive lines easily the best in football. Is that why do the offensive lines get bad? We still have offensive linemen in college, great ones.

But with the CBA, the players, didn't get necessarily all the things they wanted, but they got less practice time. What does that mean? Well, what's the unit on the football field that needs the most practice time? Offensive lines. It's a very technical position. I mean, Miles Garrett can rush the passenger in any defense. You know what I mean? But an offensive line to be a cohesive unit needs practice time. Well, in the last CBA, they took away some camps, they took away some practices. even great college offensive linemen take longer now, usually year two, before you can count on them. And players won, but did they really?

You know, the players now have more power than they've ever had in the NBA. But players have always run the NBA, but now you can't demand as much. The weightlifting, the off-seasons. A lot of these guys just check out, they come back and they play, and by the end of a season, they're banged up. some of it's the condensed schedule. I'm not denying that. Some of it could be bad luck. But we have literally every star on virtually every team now is hurt.

This is beyond condensed schedule and bad luck. Players, when they win in these collective bargaining agreements, one of the wins they always want is, give me more off-season, fewer practices, less nonsense. At the end of a season, that's not always a win. We know Russell Wilson, LeBron James for most of his career, and Brady don't get hurt much. Why? Because of the time they put into their bodies in the off season. I mean, LeBron, Tom Brady and Russell Wilson have nothing in common.

Two play football, one plays basketball, one's six, nine, one's closer to five, nine. You know, one's kind of skinny and tall, one's bulky and tall, one's short and squatty. But it's their commitment to the offseason, their commitment with training that allows them, at the end of seasons to be strong and healthy. Kauai Leonard, Anthony Davis, I mean, you're just, and I'm not saying these guys don't work hard, but it's got to be more than a condensed schedule. This series now, it's very interesting.

Utah's going to obviously win game five. But remember, if Kauai Leonard doesn't return for this series, if the Clippers get ousted from the playoffs, if Paul George does not step up as a primary score and lift them to a win. Steve Balmer, the Clippers owner, we thought we were past Cabloom stage. He's not going to just sit there because Kauai, Leonard, he missed 20 games last year. He missed 20 games this year.

Now he's hurting the playoffs. So, you know, I keep saying the Brooklyn Nets are fragile. Boy, the Clippers organization is so fragile. I thought they got past it. I thought, now, okay, here we go. Now they're back. They're past the Cabloom stage. and then this happens last night and you're like, oh boy, they're not winning in Utah.

I don't think they could win a game in Utah without Kauai Leonard. They could probably narrowly win at home without him, but this could change everything, absolutely everything. And it could change the – but remember, Kauai's got an opt-out, probably won't opt-out, but he has one. Balmer's not going to sit there. This now will expose Paul George for the next two games. If Paul George does not play well in the next two games and Steve Ballmer's watching, they're making a move. Which, by the way, maybe Portland benefits.

Maybe the Lakers could benefit. Maybe somebody in the league benefits. But they'll move him. Now, they won't trade him to the Lakers, but they will move it if the next two games are ugly. Every opinion I had yesterday on the Clippers, all of it changes. You know, Joey and I always say this. Don't hold us to opinions when information changes. I can hear jazz fans saying, well, Mike Conley was hurt.

Mike Conley's not Kauai Leonard. Okay. I mean, Kyrie's great. He's not KD. Hardin's great. He's not KD. Mike Conley's not Kauai Leonard. This is a total franchise changer, a total series changer.

He's the best defender on the wing in this series. He's the best get a bucket guy in the wing in this series. He's mostly unaffected by press and negativity. He just puts his head down in plays. What a. What a break for Utah and what a bad break for the Clippers. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.

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again we are experts so make sure to tune into pod meets twirled for all our survivor 50 takes listen to pod meets twirled on the iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts two through five picks yesterday at miami dolphins practice it was raining so there's that Listen, everything's something. Nothing is everything. It's bad optics. These are the last five things that have become news with Tua. Week 16, bench for Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Week 17, three picks overwhelmed against Buffalo. Offseason admitted he didn't really know the playbook. Yesterday, five picks. It's not exactly great when there was a term, tank for Tua. I'll go back to my epiphany. I really like Tua for a long time. College pre-draft. And then at the start of the season,

I kept getting little bits and pieces of video, and I said, it's not going to work. There's no special here. You've got to be special because that's when the play breaks down. That's what Elway had. Marino's arm and release and Peyton Manning. There's no special. Size, smaller than average arm, not significant.

athleticism, really, really average health question marks. Now, everybody has always said, he is accurate. It's funny about Alabama quarterbacks. I went back and looked at what we said about A.J. McCarron. We compared him to Drew Brees. John Harbaugh did too. Tua, it's his accuracy. What was Mack Jones?

He is accurate. All Alabama quarterbacks are accurate. Because they have six seconds to throw, and their number three and four receivers are usually better than their opponent's number one receiver. Greg McElroy completed 71% of his throws. I went and looked this morning. We praised his accuracy.

Blake Sims, 65%, Jake Coker, 67%. You seeing a trend with Alabama quarterbacks? their accuracy. You know, folks, when you got six seconds, you have a great running game, you're throwing on second and three or third and one, your receivers are wide open, even in the SEC, because they're all first rounders. It's amazing how every quarterback at Alabama, A.J. McCarran,

guys I like Greg McElroy, good broadcaster too, Blake Sims, Tua, Mac Jones, oh, the accuracy. I need something beyond that. The accuracy is kind of, when you go to a restaurant, the restrooms are clean. You probably shouldn't advertise that. It's the minimum I'm expecting at a restaurant. The bathrooms are clean. Five interceptions.

Not everything, but keep telling me how accurate. he is. Just keep telling me how accurate is. You got to get me something beyond that. And judging by yesterday, he wasn't that accurate. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific.

Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all. embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.

Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care which I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th.

You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment,

and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas.

And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defining the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. and finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows. Without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game.

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friends stop by like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash will get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He run up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. It's Ryder Strong and Will Fidel from PodMeets World. And now the Podmeets twirled podcast. We're two men who were completely clueless to reality TV, who now have covered Dancing with the Stars, traitors, and we're gearing up for the season finale of Survivor.

So yeah, now we're experts. I know we annoyed a lot of our listeners by our severe lack of survivor knowledge. That is the point of the show. I'm just going to remind you. I have watched some Survivor. I obviously haven't watched enough. Did people not like it? Like what was just because Yeah. We'll be recapping the big conclusion in the 50th season from the final attempts at gameplay to the desperate pleas of finalists to a bunch of again, we are experts. So make sure to tune in to Pod Meets Twirled for all our Survivor 50 takes. Listen to Pod Meets Twirled on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Right now, joins us brought to you by Mercedes-Benz, the best or nothing. First Things First Host. So let's just talk KD.

I don't really buy legacy game stuff. I think, you know, like I heard that for LeBron so many times. Oh, legacy. And it's like he's a top one or two player ever. Let's move on. Kevin Durant is one of the great offensive players ever. He's got titles. He's got MVP's.

He's outplayed, some would argue, LeBron in big games. But Katie was so great last night. There are those that are saying maybe it was a legacy game. Where do you fall on that? Yeah, I don't. I don't think KD had anything to lose last night, but I do think he had a fair amount to gain if he gave us a transcendent performance, and he gave us more than a transcendent performance. To the second most points he's ever had in a playoff game off by one of his career high,

it's the second most rebounds he's ever had, it's the most assists he's ever had. He did it all in the same game, and the most impressive number is not the 49, the 17, or the 10. It's the 48. playing all 48 minutes when of this generation, the only guy you've been able to rely on doing that in these spots is LeBron, who I think it's fair to say has a very different body and build than Kevin Durant. Colin, it's one of the most impressive playoff games any wing has played in the history of the league. I went through the archives this morning.

I think it's better than any playoff game Larry Bird ever played. Larry had an unbelievable game seven against the Pistons. I think this was better. I think it's arguably better than any playoff game Kobe's ever had. And for Durant, the reason that it adds to his legacy is because we've never really seen him in this spot where he is the superhero that is outgunned and outmanned. He's only played two series in his career where he didn't have an MVP alongside. him. The one when Russ got hurt

in 20, was it 13 or 2014 and KD had to play against the Grizzlies without him and they lost. And one series against the Spurs without Steph in round one when the Warriors were clearly better. Seeing KD

have to do the Jordan versus the Celtics, the LeBron versus the Warriors in 2015 with no Kyrie and no Kevin Love was enthralling. And I was there Colin, it's the best in-person performance I've ever witnessed. And it does. When you start talking, Colin, about the best wings ever, you have LeBron, you have Michael, you have Kobe, you have Bird,

and then Durant. A performance like that, I do think Durant could at some point start to elbow bird off that wing forward Mount Rushmore. Like, I think that is absolutely in play. He played a perfect basketball game last night. So Kauai is out for game five. I was telling the staff this morning, I said if players didn't have numbers, they had symbols, Kauai would be a question mark. Personality, availability. He's the, you know, riddle wrapped in the enigma. You just, when he's there, he's great. You're not sure if he's there. And I, this morning, I just said, everything I said yesterday about Kauai on the Clippers doesn't count because the new information has completely changed. I think now, I don't even know if he's going to play the rest of the series,

but game five is going to be a landslide Utah win, in my opinion. Your thoughts on his injury going forward? Well, so a couple things. One is, I think there might be some in the moment, like, hey, today, now's the chance for Paul George to do what Kevin Durant did. It's totally unfair to Paul George. Kevin Durant's one of the 15 best players ever. Paul, George, in my opinion, is not one of the 15 best players currently. You cannot ask Paul George to go into Utah and carry the team. They desperately need Kauai. They're not going to have Kauai. So they won. By the way, they haven't won in Utah in the last two years with Kauai. So I don't know that they were going to win this series even if Kauai was healthy. Without him, they're cooked.

I think so. I think they will lose tonight. And if he's not there for game six, I think they'll lose game six, certainly would lose game seven in Utah. I do think, however, Colin, and I think you and I might disagree on this, I think they could have lost to Utah with a healthy Kauai. If that happened, then I think Kauai's free agency decision is a real decision. Like, man, we've lost in the round two twice. Neither time were we playing some juggernaut team. Is this the best place for me to win a championship?

but if they lose because he's out after they'd won twice and blow out fashion, I think it's actually easier for Kauai to stay with the clippers and say, we would have won the title, but I got hurt. And so I think that obviously the best thing for them is he doesn't get hurt and they win, but if they were going to lose with him healthy and lose with him injured, I think for long-term purposes, it might actually be better for Kauai staying with the clippers that he's going to miss a game or two. We're both dads, and I've joked before with kids.

You have to constantly adjust your expectations. When my kids were five, I thought they were going to be president of the United States. By 10, I thought, I was hoping they could be president of maybe a small company, and by 15, maybe they can be president of a frat house someday. But, you know, you adjust your expectations. I look at Milwaukee, we've got to readjust what they are. They're not a great team. They're getting so many breaks.

they still can't win with breaks. They're the only healthy team left. That's it. It's unbelievable. Kauai left the east. Everyone's hurt. Yeah. Go ahead.

Kauai left the east. LeBron left the east. The Celtics unraveled. Everybody on the nets has hurt. They're still unable to win. What are they now? Well, right now they are screwed. And I don't know.

By the way, I don't think they're dead in this series because I don't know if Katie can do that again. I don't expect Hardin to all of a sudden be able to move. I was shocked he played last night. I was even more shocked he played 46 minutes. But that loss last night was so indefensible in every facet.

Offensively, Janus at the end of the game, was clearly spooked out of going to the line, which is why he took the fadeaway jumper over Hardin with a minute 20 left instead of going to the basket. And I think it's why Barclay said it after the game. He fumbled the ball on that last possession because he was trying to rush so they wouldn't foul him. Also, James Hardin is out there on one leg.

How do you not attack him defensively? He's not a great perimeter defender, even a good perimeter defender. healthy. On one hamstring, it would have been a... Every time they did it, they got a layup. I can't believe Budenholzer didn't have them do it repeatedly. And lastly, Colin, they didn't double team

Kevin Durant once the entire game. I know. They only sent help his way a half dozen times, and Katie took zero jump shots when they sent help. If Jeff Green's going to beat you, Jeff Green's going to beat you, but the top 15 all-time player who is shooting flames out of his eyeballs get the ball out of his hands.

Like, I couldn't believe it. And so if you're Milwaukee, you're like, all right, our superstar has a giant hole in his game. And our coach, year after year after year in the postseason, can't make the obvious adjustment. That's not a great place to be. Now, they are the only healthy team left. And maybe that is going to be what matters. And maybe Janus will have a brilliant game six. But man, up 17 with seven minutes left in the third.

And the other team's got one guy. You can't lose that game. And they found a way to lose that game. One quick football topic. The NFLPA, the Players Association, released their first influencer hot list in 2020. Is this about Brady? What time out? I could finish his story.

Why do you always do this to me? Okay. So they looked at total engagement. This is Forget that Brady's number one in the league, which is kind of amazing because social media is a young person's game.

He actually finished a head of Patrick Mahalms who was viewed as much cooler and lit. So are you mad? What do you make of the fact that old man Brady, even in the young man's game beats Mahomes. It's kind of fascinating.

Well, here's what I make of it. And I, two things. And neither of these things are going to be very professional, but this is, it was not professional of you to bring up this non-story just to troll me. Number one. First of all, Joy, if you could in the remaining two hours and 20 minutes on the show, try to use some of your sources to dig into the actual metrics of this,

to see how many of these engagements are actually from Colin Cowherd. How many is it Colin liking and reliking and liking again Brady tweets? Like how much is that? That's first of all. Second of all, I, and this is the part that is not really fair to my friend Colin, but whatever. I'm not on a lot of sleep. I was at the game last night and this is unnecessary. I would just like the audience to pretend for a moment that ranked number one by the NFLPA

in social media engagements was not. Tom Brady was not Patrick Mahomes was say, Baker Mayfield. Would Colin think it's a good thing? Or did Colin be like, oh, Baker, more interested in the old Twitter twatter than he is the old quarterbacking. But no, his patron St. Brady's doing it. So it's great. It's why he's the goat. It's so ridiculous. I can't believe you squeezed this topic into this. It's unbelievable. He makes a good point. If it was Baker, I, you know, I may have been a little, well, Tom's also got six rings, so you're allowed. When you have seven, my bad, I lost count.

Seven. You're allowed to do the Twitter, twatter. Yeah, she makes a good, she makes. Nice yellow guys. Thank you. I missed the memo today. Tell me next time. Not do this on purpose. Nick, right, good stuff. First things first. Yeah, Brady finished number one. It is interesting. Some of these guys

finishing high, like I'm surprised Lamar Jackson's top ten because he doesn't seem interested in that stuff at all, but he finished. Baker's not in it. He has a lot of endorsements, though. Oh, okay. So, so JJ Watt, obviously. Russell Wilson, who's very good, always has the right. Gronk, Beckham, Cam, Juju Smith, Schuster, probably more than he should. D.K. Metcalf is insane.

An athlete. He's young. Lamar Jackson, 10. Baker's not in it. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all,

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Yep. That's me, Cliver Taylor the fourth. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment. and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music.

The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas.

And I'm C.J. Toledano and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have

Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. a point game on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hey, everyone. It's Ryder Strong and Wilfredel from PodMeets World. And now the Podmeets Twirled podcast. We're two men who were completely clueless to reality TV, who now have covered Dancing with the Stars, traitors, and we're gearing up for the season finale of Survivor. So yeah, now we're experts. I know we annoyed a lot of our listeners by our severe lack of survivor knowledge. That is the point of the show. I'm just going to remind you. I have watched some Survivor. I obviously haven't watched enough. Did people not like it? Like what was just because we? Yeah. We'll be recapping the big conclusion of the 50th season from the final attempts at gameplay to the desperate pleas of finalists to a bunch of ha, ooh, ha, ha, ooh, ha, ooh, again, we are

experts. So make sure to tune into Pod Meets Twirled for all our Survivor 50 takes. Listen to PodMeets World on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So there's a reason that somebody once created resumes. And that is so, let me look at your history. What are you consistently? Yeah. So that's why you have, that's why you have resumes. So you come out and you go, okay, this is what you do, this is what you do, this is what you do.

I know what you do. I may not always know what you can't do. You're going to hide that, but I know what you can do efficiently. So when I hear this, oh, the Clippers, it's just bad luck. Nonsense. I don't think I'm a lucky guy or an unlucky guy. I think over the course of a lifetime, you get both. I've had some bad luck streaks and some good luck streaks.

Kauai and Paul George are exactly what their resume told you they were. What was Kauai Leonard coming to the Clippers? Nonverbal, a little enigmatic load management, and his health was always tricky. That's exactly what this story is. His health is an issue. What was Paul George? He's a great player, All-Star. He kind of shrinks in playoff games.

That's been his biggest problem with the Clippers. Their resumes told you what they were and kind of what they weren't. Both have happened in these playoffs. Kauai's now hurt. Paul George has been inconsistent. It's like Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis was hurt constantly. in New Orleans. When the Lakers acquired him, you're like, man, you can't trust Anthony Davis.

Well, New Orleans couldn't trust him. That's what the resume told you. When Brooklyn went out and got KD and Kyrie, let's stay with Kyrie. He could be emotionally a little erratic. He took a sabbatical first week of the season, and he gets hurt a lot. He's hurt again. It's exactly what he is. Hardin's injury is a shocker. He never got hurt. Donovan Mitchell's a guy that doesn't get hurt. That's a little surprising, but both Hardin and Mitchell are back. But Kevin Durant, oh, he was great last night. Kevin Durant's great all the time.

And he's brittle. So when you start stacking up, you know, Jimmy Butler looked very frustrated at the end of the year with his teammates. That was his resume. Jimmy Butler got worn out by teammates, Philadelphia that couldn't get along, wouldn't put in the commitment of Ben Simmons. He got frustrated in Chicago with young players that wouldn't put in the the time. Now he's frustrated with Tyler Hero who got devoured by the Miami Nightlife. So I don't believe in this luck thing. The Clippers' two stars have just become what they've always been. The timing stinks. The timing's bad. But Kauai's, this is why he and Pop didn't work. He

wasn't available all the time. Great when he's available. And Paul George now will be asked to go on the road in Utah, one of the toughest places to play basketball. on the planet and be a number one. I'm going to say he probably, over the next three games, we'll have a couple of stinkers. That's why we created resumes. All these teams, oh, our luck is terrible.

Yes, there's bad luck. I mean, you know, I mean, like, LeBron James losing Kevin Love and Kyrie in a finals, you know, the Raptors finals, where KD and Clay get hurt. You're like, oh, yeah, y, y, but when you acquire people, you're not just acquiring talent.

You're looking at their health. You're paying these guys $30 million. You're looking at their health. Are they leaders? Are they dependable? Are they in the NFL? A few years ago, I was in the Chargers war room for the first day of the draft. And I got to see their board.

You know, they keep it under wraps until the draft. They wouldn't let me take any pictures of the board because they had little dots for players. they took off their board because of character issues, and they took 20 players, a couple of them, great, who were drafted by other people off their board for injury issues. Two of them notable, what's happened to those two? They're now hurting the NFL. So the Kauai and Paul,

the Klipper situation is what they signed up for. But the clippers are the clippers. So when Kauai and Paul George say they want to be clippers, you just accept it. You deal with that. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd, weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the IHard Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.

Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th.

You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Cliverts show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need.

to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm CJ Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defining the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin. Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs.

I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too.

Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He run up the court, licking his fingers, got the ball like after you go through a training camp with that i zahad you figure it out real quick get your ass up and down the court and you're gonna get the ball so listen to point game on the iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts hey everyone it's rider strong and will fredell from podmeets world and now the pod meets twirled podcast we're two men who were completely clueless to reality tv who now have covered dancing with the stars traders and we're gearing up for the season finale of

of Survivor. So yeah, now we're experts. I know we annoyed a lot of our listeners by our severe lack of survivor knowledge. That is the point of the show. I'm just going to remind you. I have watched some survivor. I obviously haven't watched enough. Did people not like it? Like what was just because we? Yeah. We'll be recapping the big conclusion at the 50th season from the final attempts at gameplay to the desperate pleas of finalists to a bunch of, ha, who. Again, we are. are experts. So make sure to tune into Pod Meets Twirled for all our Survivor 50 takes. Listen to Podmeets Twirled on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

The NFLPA, the Players Association, came out with what they call like a hot list on what players do the best with social media. And social media is not really for people, you know, 60 plus, 50 plus. It's a young person's game. And Brady finished as the oldest NFL player, number one, ahead of young stars and wide receivers and cool guys. And I will say this, we all know that Brady's body has aged well. I mean, Breeze, Peyton Manning, Big Ben, they looked older. They played older. They had limitations on what they could do. So that goes without saying. But I do like the way Brady's aging. I remember when Brett Farve at the end, he got rigid and he got cranky and I'm not going to learn a new offense. And I want to do it my way. I'm going to go now,

move to the south, get on my tractor, hide from everybody. And it was, like nothing against far, but that's not an elegant way to wrap it up. Tom's like, I want a new coach, a new playbook, a new coordinator, new teammates, young teammate. I mean, Tampa's one of the youngest teams in the NFL. Brady's aging well as a human. Like a lot of people want to go and retire in Palm Springs or Florida, live in a golf course, and that's what they do and write a golf court around.

There's nothing wrong with that. But I always have had a fear that I'll just get older faster. And I don't want to get older faster. I am going to retire either in near a college campus or in a city or somewhere in a mountain ski community. So I'm moving and I'm active at 7,000 feet and getting workouts. I'm not rooting to get old. Like I like having energy.

Some people just want to golf and that's what they're going to do. It's over. It's cocktails at four. It's bed by eight. It's Matlock. It's over. There's nothing wrong with that. People are very happy doing that.

But if you, one of the things about brood, Brady that I really appreciate is that he's aging, beyond football, he's aging really smartly. He's fun. He's active. He's growing. He's taking chances. He's around young people. He laughs at himself. You know, I remember years and years and years ago, you know, my late mother, and she was a funny, funny person until the end, very funny and witty, a British mom. and one day she made a comment about politics to me and I said, Mom, stop watching that garbage. I'm not going to tell you what she was watching, but I'm like, stop it.

You don't want to end up crazy old cranky cat lady. Go be happy. Turn the TV off. Put some music on. Go dance in the living room. Be happy. You don't want to be old crazy cat lady. She didn't like cats.

She had dogs. But that is something. Like that's how you're going to be remembered. that last 10 years when you're screaming at kids on the lawn, and Brady's not like that. He's got young kids. He's fun. He's growing.

He's active. New stuff. Forget the football. That's how you age. To me, that's an elegant way to age. You know what? Johnny Carson, last great show. Boom.

I'm going to go play tennis. That's the way you do it. You don't want to be doing Winnebago commercials as a sportscaster. My teeth falling out. Do these dentures. Reverse mortgages. That's not going to happen. I'll never do a reverse mortgage commercial.

It's never going to happen. I'll make a personal guarantee. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all,

embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care which I'm saying.

Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.

This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music.

The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok.

What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm CJ Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game.

We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson,

we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing That man, hell get the flying, he running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball, like, after you go through a training camp with that Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Oh, yeah.

Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone, it's Ryder Strong, and Wilfredel from PodMeets World. And now the Pod Meets Twirled podcast. We're two men who were completely clueless to reality.

TV, who now have covered Dancing with the Stars, traitors, and we're gearing up for the season finale of Survivor. So yeah, now we're experts. I know we annoyed a lot of our listeners by our severe lack of survivor knowledge. That is the point of the show. I'm just going to remind you, I have watched some Survivor. I obviously haven't watched enough. Did people not like it? Like, what was just because we? Yeah. We'll be recapping the big conclusion of the 50th season from the final attempts at gameplay to the desperate pleas of finalists to a bunch of

ha, who, ha, ha, ooh, ha, ooh, again, we are experts. So make sure to tune into PodMeets Twirled for all our Survivor 50 takes. Listen to PodMeets Twirled on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So Jay Glazer is, you know,

Jay Glazer's interesting. Jay Glazer is one of those guys that he reports big stories. He's not sitting on his phone all day. He's not, Jay just goes out and gets, he's a big game. game hunter. So he's, he is, when Jay says something, it's true. So Jay Glazer was on Pat McAfee this morning, talked about Aaron Rogers. He said, I know Aaron still wants out, without a doubt,

absolutely, still wants out. Every time somebody called the Packers, it was immediately shut down. What these teams need to do is continue to call and continue to call. So it's interesting because Aaron's approach to this, we talked about this yesterday, has very much been deniability. Jerry Jones was once asked, why aren't you on social media? And he said, I want deniability. I don't want to put anything down. Aaron's never getting quoted for any of this stuff. But never forget, April 29th, is the biggest day and the biggest weekend for all NFL teams in the offseason. Day one of the draft. That's the biggest day for the Packers offseason. On that day, Aaron Rogers or somebody connected to him leaked to multiple star reporters. I'm unhappy.

I want out. Now, we know the Packers didn't leak it because why would they create that kind of chaos and mayhem going into their biggest weekend of the offseason? Aaron did it right at the start of the draft. Ten minutes before, three great reporters, all trustable, all reliable, had the same exact information. Folks, have been in this business 30 years. Doesn't work that way. It's always staggered. One guy's got it here. One guy an hour later. All three, same time, boom. Somebody on that side leaked it. So Aaron now was not quoted doing it.

Aaron wouldn't talk to Mike Tariko at the Kentucky Derby. Hawaii is just having fun in yesterday. He was very glib and very casual and very indifferent. Here's a sample from him being on that golf match with Brady and Bryson DeShamo and Mickelson. You're having a great time. You've really kept a low profile. this off season. I've hardly seen your name at all. You haven't hosted any TV shows or been in it involved in any kind of controversy or anything. It's been a nice peaceful offseason for you,

it sounds like, AR. Yeah. Thank you, B.A. It's been one of those quiet off seasons you just dream about where you can just kind of go through your process on your own quietly. And, you know, that's all you can ask for as an older player in the league and someone who's been around for a long time and just enjoys that time to yourself, to just relax, to not be bothered, to not have any obligations or anything going on. You know, I think that's what this off season has been about. It's been about really enjoying my time

and spending it where I want to spend it and not feeling like I have to go anywhere, not having any responsibilities, but still being an NFL player. He's coming off very happy, very casual, just kind of indifferent. But remember, he's the one

on draft day. His side dropped the bomb. And now Green Bay has got to clean it up. So there was always tension in this relationship, right? Like all relationships, husband, wife, you have tension. That's not the end of it. But if I was, if my wife served me papers from a lawyer this morning, all right, that

changes the temperature in the room. That's kind of what Aaron did. He had his lawyer served papers. I refuse to play here. That changes everything. That's different from, could you give me a heads up on my quarterback coach? Could you give me a heads up on Jordy Nelson? and that's a couple having a little fight over allowance for one of their kids.

That's not a game changer. What Aaron did on draft day messes up the biggest weekend for the Packers or any team. That's serving papers. That's signing up a lawyer and serving your papers and trying to humiliate you. You serve papers when I'm at lunch with my friends. That's trying to humiliate you. You can serve papers a lot of times. Serve it.

He's at lunch right now. serving papers in front of his buddies. So that's what Aaron did. So now he can be all casual and jockey, but according to Glazer, he wants out. You know, this is serious business. He's presenting, because he's not quoted in any of this, he's got all this culpability.

He can say, oh, if they won't trade him. But I think it's fascinating. You know, people have said to me, God, you guys talk Aaron Rogers. He's the MVP of the league. He's one of the three most important players in the league And essentially, he is told a legendary franchise, Jay Glazer, I'm out. It's over. And I've always said, if Jordan Love could play, this is very solvable.

If Green Bay looks at all this stuff and they may have to make a determination at some point if Aaron truly will hold out that can Jordan play. If Jordan can play, I'll go back to my theory on this is they want him in the AFC. They don't want, they don't want him to come back and burn them. You do not want Tom Brady coming back to burn you. So when Tom Brady chooses Tampa, I mean, for New England, it's a little bit of a, okay, if we do meet him, it's in the Super Bowl. We'll be fine with that. So, you know, when Belichick trade Garoppolo to the Niners, if we do meet him, it's in a Super Bowl.

And I think Green Bay looks at it that way. If we have to face him, he's got to get through Mahomes, Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, you know, Lamar Jackson, all these great players. But Jay Glazer said, just keep calling. Just keep calling. So I think the team we all think makes sense, and it does, is Denver. They've got two pass rushers. They've got a very interesting roster, a Pro Bowl left tackle. They have good backs, excellent young receivers, a really good tied end.

Denver is that team. And Tampa, by the way, became that team. God, if Tampa could just get the quarterback right. you can roll your eyes when I say this. But if Denver can just get the quarterback right, that's a Super Bowl potential team. And you laugh at that. But Denver's had a lot of success recently and forever. I've been watching the NFL since 1975, no, since 1972.

Denver's mostly been good. And they got multiple Super Bowls. They got Super Bowls with Elway. They got one with Peyton Manning. And even when they weren't great at quarterback, Jake Plummer, they were interesting. They were around. So they've had good coaches, great player. They have a good roster.

You know, you think about Tampa. Tampa, their history is a mess. I mean, Brady's the first great quarterback they've ever had. And he, just by joining them, I mean, very few people thought, oh, Tampa's winning the Super Bowl. I said, wild card team be fun. And it changed everything. Aaron Rogers to Denver, that's a really good football team. Now, I know Mahomes in the same division.

I get it. But by the way, when Brady went to Tampa, Drew Bree's in the same division. Matt Ryan is the same division. Good players. He's going to get Hall of Fame votes or, you know, Drew Brie is a Hall of Famer. Sean Payton's a Hall of Fame coach. So this is Denver feels right to me. And, you know, there's just not that many teams, Joy.

There's not many teams that the young teams have their young quarterback. Cincinnati's got theirs and Cleveland has theirs and Buffalo has theirs. And Kansas City Chargers have theirs. So you can take off about 10 teams they have their young quarterback. Then there's another 10 to 15 teams that have a quarterback like a DAC. You're locked in financially. There's not many teams in this league that really need a quarterback. There's probably about six you could argue.

Five or six. And there's not, I mean, Denver is right there. Well, also, they don't want to send him to anywhere in the NFC. Yeah, so AFC. So that eliminates an entire conference of options. And Denver's got two pass rushers. Green Bay wanted JJ Wat couldn't afford him. It's not the only situation that's being eyed for a quarterback.

We just saw the story the other day that Deshawn Watson would like to go to Denver. Like it's obviously a desirable location. And by the way, Aaron Rogers, when he found out, remember Mark Schlarith reported that Broncos wanted him. Aaron reached out to Mark, probably because Aaron's like, it's close enough to the West Coast. They got a good rock. Tom Brady, when he was first called by Tampa, remember what Jason Light and Bruce Arien said? Tom knew their whole roster.

Yeah. Tom's like, you guys need a right tackle. You probably need a second running back. Tom knew the whole roster. Aaron Rogers isn't sitting around playing backgammon all day. He knows the rosters. He makes a huge difference. And Denver's not a small city.

No, it's a big time city. It's a big city. That's one championships. It's got a big reputation. They just won with an old quarterback. And it's not a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady kind of situation, really, because we know, well, we don't know when Tom is going to retire, obviously, but we don't think he's going to play for the next eight years.

I feel like that's the same statement. I mean, Aaron just won the MVP. Like, Aaron's not on the last two years of his career. Maybe Aaron is sending this out through Glazer. I don't know this. but because Aaron wants to get this thing done fast. Like Aaron's telling Greek. It's more ideal for Aaron to be moved before the season, so he has an offseason with that team.

It best serves Aaron Rogers to make it clear through his media contacts. I'm not coming. You got to get over it. I'm not showing up. And if he does that, then Green Bay is more willing probably to move off him and get something in return. So if I was Aaron Rogers and I wanted a camp, I want to go meet my new guys, what I would do is make it very Very clear. I am not coming. Don't waste your time. So that may be very smart by Aaron. Yeah. It's more beneficial for Aaron to be moved quickly.

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