The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 06/28/2021 - HOUR 2 - Right and wrong, Damian Lillard

Episode Date: June 28, 2021

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Find your local station for the herd at Fox Sports Radio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Herd. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Sports Radio. Oh, here we go. Hour 2 on a Monday. Great to have you in live in Los Angeles. It's the herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening. IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, and FS1. Joy Taylor, this weekend going to New York City hanging out.

So you've done, I don't know how you do it. So you've gone like four to five straight weekends like East Coast? It's not been four or five straight, but yeah, it's been. I've been on a lot of long sites. That flight from New York is going there is always a little more excited. JFK is a lot of work. It's a lot of work as an airport.

It's very clean. Well, it's new. They've made upgrades. But there's just no efficient way to get out of there. Maybe I'm not smart enough, but I'm like, I always feel like I got the plane and I'm like, all right, I've got 20 minutes before I can find a place where I can get to a car. New York City is not, and a lot of it's just the reality of their geography. It's not a great airport city.

You're better off going to New Jersey. Oh, yeah, I flew out of New Jersey. That's much easier that way. Yeah, that's more efficient. L.A. has so many airports. L.A. is bizarre. We have Burbank and then we have Long Beach. Yeah.

And then we have the Santa Ana. They're all perfect. They're small. You park four minutes later, you know, at your gate. L.A.X is your typical monstrosity. It's your Atlanta. It's your Philadelphia. But by and large, it's that horseshoe shape.

You're in and out. It's pretty efficient. I used to live next to it. I could get there to the gate and 10 minutes from my house. But JFK is a lot of work. It is, but it's worth it. New York is amazing right now. That's what they say.

They say New York is just on fire, having fun. Everyone's happy and going places. And it feels like it's back. By the way, can I just for one, of course I can. It's called the herd. So the media is, this is why people are over the American media. I, the media, the media, drives me nuts and I'm in the media. During the pandemic, it was, it'll never be the same. It's actually

for some people better than it's ever been. People have money. They're spending it in a lot of sectors. The economy's good. America always bounces back. Could the media not always take the position of everything's bad. The worst possible is going to happen. We'll never recover. Everywhere I go, I was at a party last night in Los Angeles. People are happy. They're grateful. Yeah. No, I think that's, I think that is the overall sentiments. You know, you can feel energy amongst people when you go places. No question. And I feel like, I personally feel very grateful. So I, I feel like there's that energy. Whereas normally we're like, oh, stay away from me. Like, oh, what are you doing? You're so goofy. Like everyone's always judging everyone. It's like judgment free,

live your life. We all just went through a horrible time, enjoy yourselves. If you want to do that, do that. I'm going to go over here and do this. Everybody I'm around now is happy. Yeah. The media is constantly miserable. That's why people are tired of the media. I understand the pessimism towards humanity. Sometimes you can get a little bitter constantly covering awful stories and having to live in that space. I do think I was having this conversation this weekend.

I find myself even sometimes actively having to resist becoming bitter because it can be very frustrating dealing with stupidity on a daily basis and ignorance and all of that. And like you have to remind yourself there's a lot of great things happening in the world. you should enjoy your life. Yeah, like that movie that came out about phones that they're evil. And my wife freaked out. And I said, honey, 90% of what that phone does is great. 10% is a problem for our teenage daughters. But 90% of it is I'm going to call a restaurant.

28 minutes later, I've got dinner on the table. I mean, come on. Well, like everything in life, there's a negative and a positive. And if you choose to only focus on the negative, then it will build in that direction. All right, calling right, calling wrong on a Monday brought to you. Bye. Jersey Mike subs. New grilled portabella mushroom.

Jersey mics be a sub above. Here we go. Where Colin was right. What a shock. The Clippers were bad late in games. Game two and game four, totally winnable games. Missed free throws. Poor execution late.

This is what the clippers are. They're the only really, really excellent team in the NBA that can't get the last six minutes right. In the fourth quarter of game four against the Suns, they had 14 points. They were three of 19. They were 0 for 6 for 3s. I don't want to hear about officials.

This team had wide open looks, couldn't hit any of them. I've been saying this for two months. This is why I have questions about the Clippers and why I like the Sons in this series. I don't trust the Clippers late. Where Colin was raw. Chris Middleton was more Batman than Robin yesterday. 38 last night, a career playoff high. I've been critical of him for years.

But I will say this. When you don't ask him, to give you last night every night. He's a shot maker. He's a very nice shooter in the NBA. I've always thought he's a better three, maybe a four on a dynasty, a three on a finals, or a championship team.

But he deserves some praise because he was money last night, especially in the fourth. Where Colin was right? Talked about it last week. Dame Lillard, I said, here it comes. What do you know?

Chris Haynes broke the story. He reportedly could request a trade soon. Listen, nine years, they couldn't get him a running mate. CJ McCollum's a very nice player, should be a three or a four, not a two. And by the way, Lillard consumes a lot of social media, so Portland fans bagging on him, I'd stay away from that. That's the kind of stuff you don't think it matters. It does. You're lucky to have them. Realize that where Colin was raw. I had an NFL head coach call me and say, Tom Brady wasn't ripping Mitch Trabisky.

Another story today, multiple sources, Tom Brady MFing, was not Mitch Trabesky. So here's my takeaway. Who was it? You wouldn't do that to Garapolo or Tannahill or Derek Carr, which everybody keeps telling me. Those guys aren't terrible. Tom Brady wouldn't rip somebody who just beat him or pretty good. Derek Carr's pretty good. There is some stories that people think it's Derek Carr that he's talking about.

Does everybody realize Brady was not going to go to the Chargers because they were West. Why would you go to Gruden a second-tier roster first year in Vegas? So when Brady said, you're going to keep that blankety-blank? It must have been a team he had some interest in, right? He looked at it a little. I can't believe the Raiders were even with that roster even considered. But multiple stories today, it's not Trubisky. Where Colin was right? Well, the sons DeAndre Aiton the emerging star at center. finally somebody came out and talked about the value behind the scenes of Chris Paul. That's really the only teammate that really push me, like big bro type push,

knowing what I got and that I never thought that I had. I think it was the best thing that happened to my career. You know, I can say that every day. That's the Chris Paul nobody sees on the floor. Pushing young players. It's kind of embarrassing. He wasn't even nominated for the MVP. So much of the NBA is only what we can see.

What makes Chris Paul different. One of the rare veteran players who will put his arms around a young player, bark at him pushing, be demanding on that young player. And DeAndre 8, everybody's asking right now, why did DeAndre Aiton suddenly get so good? The answer, Chris Paul. Where Colin was wrong. Well, Woj reporting the 76ers are committed to Ben Simmons as a, quote, central piece. of their franchise. All right.

I guess I don't know how you can sell that to the fans or the locker room, but the Sixers are saying to Woj we're not going anywhere with Ben Simmons. Now, by the way, Darry, the GM, tends to say he loves all his players.

He also tends to make a lot of moves. So I'll kind of believe it if the season starts and Ben Simmons is there. But as of this morning, Woj's reporting, Simmons going nowhere. Where Colin was right? Well, I picked the Bucks to win a title, and the second reason was, their guys never get hurt. And when Trey Young twisted his ankle, it's another health break for the Bucks.

I mean, go look at the playoffs this year. Donovan Mitchell, Hardin, Kyrie, Kauai, A-D, M-B. This is why I said, I like Milwaukee, they're sturdy. Their guys don't get hurt. Drew Holiday, Chris Middleton. Janus, they play a lot of games, they don't get hurt. And over the last, I would say, four to five years in the NBA, health is the reason the Raptors won a title.

Health is the reason Harden CP3 couldn't get past Golden State. That's why I took the bucks. Where Colin was right? Well, Friday there was a story from Baker Mayfield's agent. We are expecting very soon contract talks. I said there's no contract talks. Cleveland's not signing Baker Mayfield. They want to watch this year.

Well, story came out today. The Browns have had no substantive talks yet regarding Baker Mayfield. They picked up his fifth year option. I'm not saying they won't sign him. I think by Thanksgiving, if he plays well in their first or second in their division, they probably will sign him. I'm not saying they won't. But what is the rush?

Goff and Carson Wentz are cautionary tales of signing it a little bit too soon. And I liked signing Carson Wentz and it backfired. And I like signing Jared Goff. The reality is last time Baker had a little success, he wasn't mature enough to handle it, didn't come into camp in great shape. There is no rush. Lamar Jackson's different. He's won 80% of his games.

Every year he comes in in peak shape and is better. If you're rushing to sign Baker, it is the classic low sports self-esteem front office. He gives you a little success. Somebody likes us, and you sign them to a long contract. Sit and watch till Thanksgiving. If you like what you see, then you call the agent. All right. All sorts of stuff today.

Some football stuff as well. Looks like Tebow. I know, I know. Anytime I say anything about Tebow, everybody in this summer. You don't like Tebow. Stating facts on Tebow, it does not appear Urban Meyer is going to make a big case to keep him. I'll just say that.

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As Fernando Tatis Jr. And the Padres take on Bryce Harper and the Phillies. Saturday at 3.30 Eastern on FS1 and the Fox Sports app. By the way, I saw fans this weekend talking about Fernando Stice commits a lot of errors. It's not a great defensive player. But I'm like, just take the offense. Like we know that in the NBA, Ben Wallace, now Ben Wallace averaged five points of games a Hall of Famer, which is kind of dubious.

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It's like we understand that Steph Curry has turnovers and gets a little flashy and a little fun. Well, I mean, the turnovers don't matter so much when you can turn around and hit four threes in a row from half court. Or you can hit like Fernando Tatis. And you can do all this dynamic stuff offensively. I know you think defense wins World Series, and it doesn't really. It's hitting situational.

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All right, couple football things. So let me just get the Tebow thing out of the way because everybody thinks I hate Tebow. So Urban Meyer said, he prefaced it by saying, listen, this whole 53 man roster is new to me. College was 85. That's the reality of the NFL. To me, Tebow's one a 90. I mean, he goes, he's a guy that, you know, what's the difference between him and the other 40 guys to make the team? He didn't say he's one of 53.

He said that he's one of 90. And I thought to myself, this is the Urban that is transitioning to the NFL. You know it well. You let go of guys knowing they may land somewhere else. And, you know, it's just like when you look at Tebow, to me, he's a 1994 blocking tight end. You keep his a three. Tight end now is too athletic. You can't keep him.

He's not an NFL tight end. That's my thought, yours. Urban's going to go through a learning curve with a lot of things transitioning from college a pro football and and this looks like one of those situations where he had a guy that he cared about he liked a lot and he wanted to give him an opportunity but as he comes in he looks at him and realizes not just age but transitioning to a different position and the other the other skill guys that he has available it's just not going to work now maybe it works from a practice squad perspective maybe he can keep him around in that way maybe he just wants the presence in the locker

room. And again, that becomes like a practice squad type role, coach in the locker room type thing. But yeah, it's too late to make this transition. And there's just not enough there to make it work. By the way, and you live in Cleveland. You're not there now. You're one at one of your many luxurious beach homes. But I said this, you have to be careful in the NFL. The Patriots, the Seahawks, the Packers are so successful. that they don't fall in love when they have brief success. But years ago, the bills, Ryan Fitzpatrick had a good September, and the bills like threw a ton of money out of him.

It's like, it's September. It's sunny. It's Buffalo. Okay. It's mostly not. Cleveland with Baker, my takeaway is, okay, he had some success. What's the rush for a contract? Let's see if he can play.

So when I hear about this contract extension stuff, I'm like, no, no, no, no. Josh Allen? I'd sign early. There's no doubts there. Is it okay for me to still have doubts with Baker Mayfield off a little bit of success last year? 100%. You should have nothing but doubts in that situation. And why would you ever rush it?

You have the fifth year option with first round draft picks for a reason to give you more time and to give you that player at cost certainty, but something that's fair to him. Why do you need to rush to pay these guys? and dramatically affect your salary cap. And with Baker, it's been hot and cold. And he made a ton of progress. He made progress as a player. And in my mind, he made a lot of progress as a person and showed a lot of maturity.

But until you see that consistently, why would you lock yourself into a long-term contract? I mean, you've got to be Patrick Mahone sure of a guy to sign him early. Otherwise, it just makes no sense from a franchise perspective. So Brady went on one of these shows, one of these LeBron shows, right? And he went out there and he's saying, you know, he's ripping a quarterback and we're trying to guess who it is. Joy said something last week. We were talking about Brady. Is this who Brady always was?

But for the team, he kept all his comments under wrap. Is he having a midlife crisis with his football? And it's interesting because, I mean, he has done, he's got an opinion on everything. I love this version of Tom. I think it's closer to who he is. But you know Tom behind the scenes. This new Tom, outspoken, ripping guys.

Was that always who he was, just not to us, the media? Well, when we look at it, it's ripping from a Tom Brady perspective. It's not really ripping guys that harshly. And when you grow up in New England, and he not only spent early part of his career, I mean, he literally grew,

into an adult, you know, borderline AARP in New England. And that's the way the whole system is programmed. You're going to say as little as possible. I do think Tom has a great personality. I think he's funny. I think he's intensely competitive. I would imagine that to some degree he feels like he hasn't gotten all the credit. He probably deserves to have gotten over the course of time.

And then to go do what he did in Tampa Bay, it's a little bit of like, yeah, I told you who I was. I've been telling you who I was. And then when you had an opportunity to sign me, you know, you guys didn't want to sign me. Yeah. So, you know,

is, do you have any clues to who Brady was talking about when he said that? Well, you know, Chicago makes, make so much sense. But I don't, I don't necessarily think it's Chicago.

And I don't necessarily think it's a team that he wouldn't have played for. I mean, I could imagine that it could be San Francisco very easily. Lee. I mean, Jimmy Gropolo and he had obviously not issues, but they were prepared to move on for Jimmy in the first place. And then his childhood team and he can't go there and Jimmy's there again and keeping him from that from that possibility. And look, a year later, they did move on from Jimmy. They went and traded, you know, an unprecedented amount to go get another quarterback. So in a lot of ways, Tom was right. So that makes sense to me, even though he said I would have never

played at that location. I don't think that part was necessarily the whole story. That's interesting. Very intriguing. People are telling me, I'm getting a lot of people saying I'm wrong on Trubesky. Wouldn't be the first time I'm wrong. So it's interesting. I was thinking about this this this morning. Greg CoSell's been doing this for a long time, watch his film, knows his stuff. And he said, Josh Allen is the single most talented quarterback prospect I've ever seen. He has more skills. He's Elwood. way, but much bigger. Mahomes, but faster. And it's interesting. You know, Bradshaw came from a small town. We didn't watch him in college. Brett Farb didn't watch him in college. You know, Josh

Allen didn't watch him in college. When you first saw Josh Allen, did you buy it? Did you have questions? What do you make of him as a player, as a prospect, as a talent? I had a ton of questions when I first saw him. I had a ton of questions when I was looking at him coming out in the draft from an accuracy perspective. And I think that has been an issue to some degree. He's big. He's strong. He's fast. He's a good runner. Athletically, he's a strong arm.

He's got all those gifts. But there were a bunch of times where it looked like he made wide receivers work and work really hard for the ball. And you saw that a significant amount early in his career. And I think he's gotten better at that. But I'd say that's still a factor in his growth. And I give Brian Dayball a ton of credit for what he's done with Josh. But from a pure talent perspective, it's hard to think that he has more inherent talent

than Patrick Mahomes. It's just, I mean, even Aaron Rogers, they're just so unique in terms of what they can do athletically with the football and converting passes. By the way, you didn't mention Brady there in the talent thing. That was a kind of a slight. Well, no, no, no. He's going to show up on the next podcast. Brady's talent level is a totally different type of thing.

And it's a lot from the shoulders up where he understands, you know, if he knows what you're in, it's going to go to the right place. And there's a lot of guys that can't do that. Okay. So, by the way, you're out in an undisclosed location. It's very boogie. But I would say it's not far. It's very nice.

I love the fact that you would call any place on-located boogie. So it's very... A little pipe call in the kettle, you know? Okay, so you're not far from Patriots, you know, land. What are you hearing on Mac Jones? Seriously. What are you hearing? What are you seeing on Mac Jones from?

your sourcing. I've heard that he is incredibly smart and has picked up things at a very high level. And I was talking to someone who actually isn't with the Pats, but has as good knowledge of Mack Jones and understands him well and said that he reminds him a lot of Tom in terms of his overall understanding of not just what they're doing offensively, but what defenses are trying to do and his is a unique ability to process things at a high level. So I wouldn't be surprised if there's a push early. We'll have to see how the preseason game go to get him to play much, much sooner than people

anticipate. All right. Well, enjoy your catamaran. Enjoy your lifestyle over the next couple weeks, Eric. Thank you, Colin. All right. By the way, I was at a place last night. I was at a place with a pizza oven.

Like, like, like, why can't you say where you were? I just don't want to involve other people. There was, I don't want to get a party, right? It was a party with a very beautiful people, and they had this pizza oven that cooks pizzas. In two minutes. You would make them, put them in, pull it at 800 degrees, two minutes. I'd never seen that before. Like, you can get these things at places, but they go to like 200 degrees, 800 degrees.

And it was just like, boom, pizza done. They made 40 of them. Sounds like a good life. It was a good life. And somebody that owns a vineyard was there as well. I don't do a lot of this stuff. I'm not really into this. You have been doing a lot more Hollywoody stuff lately since you've moved.

You know why? Because my house is in shambles. So every party I get invited to, I'm like, can you make me dinner? I've got no kitchen. I'm done with DoorDash. I just don't want to eat out of a plastic container. I'm going to eat out of a plastic container for three months. So if you invite me, I will come over to your house.

Joy with a news. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. So NFL players have the option to opt out of the 2021 season. No questions asked. if their latest contract was executed before October 1st, 2020. Why, is that the COVID thing or something? Not sure.

But Aaron Rogers falls into that category and could decide to not play next season. However, the deadlines opt out is Friday, July 2nd. That is this week. And if you don't opt out, you cannot change your mind later if you don't do it by that date. So it's reportedly unlikely that Rogers would choose to do this because he might not be ready to give up on the entire season. as a short amount of time. But Friday could be the first first domino to fall

in finding out if he is going to come back next season. So if he opts out, Friday's the deadline. Yeah. According to this like contract clause, like this. And when you do that, what does it trigger? What other things? So it's like, you remember we had lots of opt-outs last year

because of COVID. So it's essentially just a year off. Like you can you can not play. this season. So that's what's happening. They won't be compensated, but he wouldn't have to forfeit his 11.5 million in signing bonus money that was allocated for the 2021 season

if he opts out. So he could opt out and get 11 of his 30 million bucks. He would also presumably still receive the payments on his roster bonus, which is 6.8 million that he earned in March. So now it's up to 17, 18. Yeah.

So this option is due to the pandemic. So Aaron can opt out and get 60% of his money. And if he got Jeopardy, he's almost to 100%. Is the jeopardy thing still happening? Like, is that still looking? My inside sources tell me it's very much undecided. Hollywood sourcing. How about that?

That's interesting. I'm saying we've been sort of speculating about where all this is with Rogers and Green Bay for months now. But now we're getting closer to the season. there's deadlines starting to come up, training campus approaching, and there's starting to be dates where, you know, decisions have to be made or contracts are going to change. Well, the two numbers you gave out, it's like 19 million bucks.

I mean, it's not going to be broke for the year, no. He's not going to receive his normal salary, like his normal contract salary for the year. But he's getting a chunk of it. There's a lot of different things that could happen. So LeBron has made the argument before that while Tom, Bradie is the greatest football player of all time. He can't be the greatest athlete of all time because he doesn't play both sides of the ball.

Brady responded to that claim on HBO's The Shop and gave a humble response, admitting he knows he can't do it all on the football field. I'm not a big comparison thing like that because really just depends what style you like. There's certain things that I certainly cannot do. And I have the awareness to realize, okay, I can't do those things. You can't do everyone else's job. I can't block, tackle, run, catch. I sure as hell can't run.

But I can throw the shit out of the ball, you know. So let me just do that. And let me do that really well, you know. I like that. That's a good answer. We talk about this on the show all the time. Some people do one thing great. Let them do that one thing great.

Were we just talking about this with Fernando Hattis Jr.? Yes, because there is a mentality. And I think some of this is due to LeBron. Yeah. LeBron is the outlier who is really great at so many things that we now have this idea really across all sports that you are supposed to be great at everything when really that was never the reality. And in life, most people are usually only truly great at one thing. Now, they can be good at other things. You can be a great actor and be a good director and, you know, be a good producer or whatever, like because this is your business.

So you learned how to do these things over the time where you were. doing the thing that you were great at. But that's not the standard. Like you can be the greatest of all time at one specific thing. Now, the football thing is interesting because most people would argue that, you know, football players are better athletes because

it's a collision sport. They're dealing with more playing through more pain. And like, you know, it really is a preference thing to his point. And you're not going to compare you know, Reggie White to Tom Brady. Like they play different positions. They have different skill sets. Maybe he was, Reggie was a better athlete, probably was, but Reggie can't do what Tom does and Tom can't do what he does.

So how do you even really compare? I contend that basketball players are the best athletes, and here's why. Because it combines, you have to be a great athlete. We don't ask hockey players and baseball players to have to run and jump. We don't ask football players outside of receivers and corners often to jump. Basketball guys got to be in great cardio shape, got to be strong. You got run. You got jump.

You got jump with the ball. have to do something in the air with the ball. Also, it's a highly skilled sport. If you don't play basketball for two weeks, yeah, it shows. No, no. I mean, Chris Paul sat home and he came back the next game and you're like, oh, it's a little off.

It's like golf. You don't pick up the sticks for a while. It's like, man, I can't chip. NFL is different. There are lots of examples in the NFL where somebody did not play high school football until their senior year or not at all, didn't play college football. I mean, Antonio Gates Hall of Fame tied end. He did not play college football.

You don't do that in the NBA. There are no, I'm athletic, I'm going to play pro basketball. Yeah, my brother didn't start playing football until it was junior year of high school. That's very, you see a lot of it. And they become great players. There are no, you know, I never picked up a basketball until 20. Well, I also would say with basketball, which people always argue with me about, and it's really, I just think it's kind of silly.

I'm like, do you watch sport? It's a contact sport. So the NFL is a collision sport. There are no collisions, but basketball is a contact sport. So on top of all the other things that you just mentioned, you are also body to body with other... All the time.

Professional athletes are the highest level of their athleticism and physique. Like, that also takes something out of you. That's why I always, I think that, like, boxers and fighters are such incredible athletes. Because not only do you have to have an incredible amount of stamina, you're getting hit. Like every time you get hit, that takes something out of you as well. And then you have to return that.

So it is a complicated debate off who is the best athlete. But I like that response from Brady either way. So the Bucks beat the Hawks last night to take a 2-1 series lead. A turning point for Atlanta was the injury to Trey Young. He left the game at the end of the third quarter with a right ankle sprain. He took a step back and sort of put his foot down on the ref who was standing on the sidelines. ref was in the right spot. Ref was in the right spot.

I would have loved for him to not be there. Right. Like maybe a couple inches back, but it's, you know, it's, he wasn't planning on Tray Young stepping on him as an accident, but it's just really frustrating. He was able to return the fourth but only scored three more points. And after the game, he said the ankle was sore and hurting. But it is his plan to play in the game, in game four on Tuesday.

He'll have an MRI on his ankle today. He did have 35 points and four assists. He only missed a total of nine. games due to injury this year and four of them were due to a left ankle sprain. Not the same one he injured last night, but it was an ankle injury. So hopefully he's 100%. We're all really done with the injury thing. Hopefully we can just get through the rest of the playoffs with all the stars healthy and, you know, see the series through.

Good stuff. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. Some updates on Dame and his possible move and his story that he is now unhanging. happy according to Chris Haynes and would consider demanding a trade, which I think he'd have to, because you couldn't trade, Dame.

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So apparently Chris Haynes reported that Damian Lillard wanted Jason kid as a coach for the Blazers. They didn't get him. He wanted longtime David Vanterpool, a blazer assistant much of Lillard's career. He didn't get him and they hired Chauncey Billups. So be that as it may.

Like a lot of times, and I understand fans have a hard time moving off players. But in the end, are you more loyal to players or championships? Like, I always wanted my teams to win. I had favorite players, but when I was a kid, I wanted to win games. And if I could win more games than I was happy. Portland's got a million issues. They're a mile from a championship. championship. The only great asset you have is Dame. He's 31. Maybe it's time. I think it's time for

Dame to move, but maybe it's also time for the Blazers. They could not beat Denver. That's with Dame putting up historic numbers and Denver didn't have Jamal Murray. And by the way, look at the West. The nuggets will be better next year. The Warriors will be back because Clay Thompson and they have two first round picks. The Mavs, the Clippers, the Jazz, the Sons have all surpassed them. is it about winning or about a star player? Like, if you go to Boston, Boston makes so much sense to me, we get Jalen Brown, he's not Dame, but he's going to average about 23 and a half points a game. So I get a lot of Dame.

He's a better defender. He's a bigger athlete than Dame. Give me Marcus Martin first round draft picks, and if I can hit on one of them, there you go. But Portland's a mile. Forget winning the championship. They're a mile from getting out of the West. Remember a couple years ago they got to the conference finals, everybody. went crazy, but they got swept by the warriors who didn't, at the time, K.D. wasn't healthy.

They're a mile away. So I can love the player Dame and think he should go. And I can root for the organization and think it's time. Like, this is something organization struggle with, right? Like, you know, you want to keep everybody to the last minute. The hardest point for any organization, it's not the first few years with the player. You develop him. He doesn't cost you very much. you're getting benefits. The first big decision is, do we have to pay them a lot? With Dame, it was obvious. You pay them a lot.

Then you get to that point, about 31, 32 years old. They've been hurt a couple times. They're still great, but you haven't been able to deliver around them the essential parts they need for a championship. And now teams always feel like I'm stuck. And that, to me, is the time you move them. That is, Dame's got a ton of value around the league. and you try to get him out east.

So if you do face him, it would be in the conference championships. But both Boston and Miami can give you high-end players and picks back. You move him out east. You don't have to face him as much. He's not going to beat you in the playoffs. Come to your place and beat you three or four times in the playoffs. That makes sense to me. And it's like, it's not a shot at Dame.

Listen, if you could trade broadcasters. Like if I was a tradable piece, you would understand that. Like you get to a certain point, this guy or gal is expensive. We've gotten a lot of value, but we don't have enough pieces for the network, and they're a great trade asset, and I can get a bunch of pieces and fill a bunch of needs. You're not going to get dames equal. You're not going to get Steph Curry for them. You've got to get out of that space. But Portland's like bad defensively, really bad in the backguard defensively.

They don't have the damp. They don't have the wing scoring. They got like five needs. You can solve about three of them with a trade. Now, you won't be quite as good offensively in the back court, but you'll be much better defensively. So does it kind of, in the end, do you get some value out of it? I think Boston makes a ton of sense.

But fans always struggle with this, and to me it's all about winning. And it's nothing against the star. The star is always going to get his. And that's, Dame will get his. That'll be good. but I want to see the greatest players play with other great players. I don't want to see one guy in an island dropping 54 and they can't beat Denver. To me, that's not what sports is all about.

Sports is when you get, you know, the NBA's always been top heavy. By the way, nobody wants to admit this. There's a reason I predicted all seven teams to make the playoffs last year in the AFC. Now, how was I able to do that? for the same reason I can mostly predict who's good in the NBA. The NFL is way more top-heavy that anybody wants to admit. All I ever hear is, well, you know who's going to win in the NBA. No, no, no, no, no.

I know who's going to win in college football. I didn't know the sons were going to be the best team. I didn't know Atlanta was going to be in the Eastern Conference Finals. I didn't know Dirk Novetsky was going to beat the heels. I didn't know the Raptors were going to beat the Warriors. I've never bought into that. You know who's going to win in the NBA. No, I know who's going to be viable.

but I can tell you right now who's going to be viable in the NFL. Let me give you eight, nine teams. Next year, Cleveland's going to be good. Baltimore is going to be good. Kansas City is going to be good. Buffalo is going to be good. Guarantee it. In the NFC, Seattle's going to be good.

If Aaron's there, they're going to be good in Green Bay. The Rams with Matt Stafford, if he stays upright, are going to be very good. I can tell you right now, in my Super Bowl bubble, I can give you seven teams. I guarantee you're going to be good. And eight, if Garoppolo doesn't get hurt. If Garapolo is upright and plays, San Francisco's a 12-win team. Will there be an Atlanta hawks that emerges?

Every year there is. Every year. Will there be a Brooklyn Nets that disappoints? Last year, Minnesota, every year there is. But this idea, I've always thought it's just fear-based nonsense. The NBA is not fair to small markets. Well, Phoenix is beating the second most notable team in Los Angeles, and Milwaukee about as unglamorous as the NBA.

gets is beating a team that hasn't been here forever. Yeah, Toronto won. The Mavericks beat the Healds. San Antonio was a dynasty. So, you know, to me, I've never been afraid of these super teams. They never last as long as you. Everybody was afraid of Brooklyn. Oh, I don't, what a turnoff.

They couldn't get past Milwaukee. What we talk about here? So I root for super teams because it's the best playing with the best. They never last as long as you think. Super teams never have a bench. Therefore, you ask the starters to play a ton of minutes, and there's always a, it's very hard to win in the NBA with no bench. It's not a shock.

Milwaukee's got a pretty good bench. It's not a shock. Phoenix has a pretty good bench. It's not a shock the Clippers play nine guys. Ten of Kauai was there. Super teams, you've got to be really super. You've got to have LeBron, Bosch, and D. Wade, or Durant, Stefan, Clay. Like, those are super teams.

You can get away with a bad bench. 90% of super teams. are not that good, or not that skilled. You've got to have some bench. Check out MDrive for Men.com. MDrive boost and burn, sheds unwanted pounds, elevates your healthy testosterone levels, Walgreens has it, vitamin shop and write aid two.

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