The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 07/14/2021 - HOUR 3 - Pressure

Episode Date: July 14, 2021

Which NFL quarterbacks will be under the most pressure this seasonGuest: Mark Sanchez Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy i...nformation.

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Starting point is 00:02:30 Well, it is our pleasure to introduce as a new Fox Sports colleague, Mark Sanchez, who will be a game analyst. Mark and I had been talking off the air for about a year, about different things going on in your life. And you have done a lot of commentary. I put you on my podcast all the time. You're brilliant. And now you're doing the game analyst stuff. By the way, that's a whole different world. You're gritting your teeth over there.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Are you ready for the challenge? I am excited. Thank you, one, for having me. A lot of people to thank, but I'm thrilled that I think, you know, being at ESPN for the first couple of years doing studio has really prepared me for this. But I've still been, you know, involved with NFL stuff and wanting to call games, wanting to get back into that stadium feel. And, you know, I'm stoked about fans being back this, hopefully this season. So this is going to be an incredible opportunity. But the people here at Fox who've welcomed me like family already, it's just my first day.
Starting point is 00:03:26 But I want to make sure I get all these people. So Brad Zager, Witt Album, Jacob Olin, Eric Shanks, and Charlie Dixon. Thank you guys for welcoming me in, and I'm excited about the partnership. Those guys have all tried to fire me a different time. Well, that was uncomfortable. So let's start with this. The quarterback position in New York. So you actually won your first three games as a jet.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Then you got to the AFC championship in your first couple of years. You beat Tom Brady, by the way. Who's still playing? that's another story. Zach Wilson comes in. Zach Wilson, you sent me a story this morning. It's a fascinating story. I did not know this.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Zach Wilson's uncle is the creator of JetBlue. Right. So he comes from a moneyed family. He comes from, you know, a pretty storied program out West in BYU. But you know firsthand, you had success. You and Rex Ryan were winning games. Okay, that roster was good. That was a good roster.
Starting point is 00:04:21 This is not as good a roster. Give me a sense of he starts O and 3. the newspapers, the tabloids, the talk radio, did it affect you? Listen, it's easy to say like, no, you know, you're above that. You don't pay attention. But every time you go into a press conference, which is, you know, at least twice a week as the quarterback in New York, they got to debrief you on what's out there, right? So even if you don't watch TV and you don't read the newspaper, I would go talk to our PR guy, Bruce,
Starting point is 00:04:50 and he would have to say, hey, they're talking about this, this and this, blah, blah, blah, blah, your GQ photo shoot, your game against so-and-so. They're going to ask about the back page of the Daily News that says, you know, Broadway Schmo on it after I throw five interceptions against the bills, you know, and the week before it was the next Joe Namath. And, you know, so you're just constantly dealing with a sensationalized media market, with a superlative media market, right? It's either best or worst.
Starting point is 00:05:19 And there's no middle ground. There's no eight. Eight and eight doesn't exist. Like it doesn't matter. that might as well be 0 and 16, 017, right? Right. So that's the world he's stepping into, and I think you brought up one of the best points is the roster isn't nearly as close to where we were my rookie year.
Starting point is 00:05:35 And, you know, I've been very brutally honest about this, but listen, we had to win games my rookie year in spite of the quarterback, in spite of me, okay, because I was still trying to figure stuff out. We had a great defense, great special teams. It was Revis. It was Bart Scott. It was Brad Smith, you know, all these guys that would make plays to, make up for my, you know, insufficiency at the time, you know, my ineptitude at the time.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Right. And then, you know, you start building around the quarterback the second year. You're bringing more offensive talents, Antonio Holmes, Braylon Edwards. So we are starting on the right track and we had success and you're learning lessons that should have lost you a game, but you're winning. Right. And so that was, I mean, just a three and no start, oh and three. Then I'm on the sidelines of, you know, the Oakland game. And I'm, I couldn't eat before the game because I was so anxious.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Well, that was a great story. So you literally couldn't eat before the game because it was your first big game. Your family was all there. You were going to throw up before the game. You could not eat. And then four hours later in the end of the bench, you went to a trainer and said, could you get me a hot dog? I mean, a hot dog.
Starting point is 00:06:35 So to say it doesn't affect you is, I mean, you got to be part cyborg or something. But it was, it's just a big time media market. And so with somebody like Zach, because of the roster, you got to set the right expectations. And this is on the Jets organization, their PR, and on the players on what they're saying, what's leaking out to the media, because that team needs to stay together. They're a young team. They got to grow up like one of those young baseball teams from T-ball all the way to Pony League and all that. And then after a couple years, cool.
Starting point is 00:07:09 These guys know what to do. It's nonverbal communication. We know what's going on. But this, this needs time to marinate. And in a town like that, you don't get a lot of time to marinate. So like you said, if it's an O and three start, it could be rough. But, you know, I'm talking about both sides of my mouth here, but I think he's got some things in place. Somebody who's been there who's seen it with a ton of different quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:07:31 And Greg Knapp as his quarterback coach, I think Coach Sala will be the right kind of mentality, you know, self-deprecating in a way. I saw an article about, you know, the first time the team gets together and they go to breakdown and they're waiting for the head coach to go, you know, give the breakdown speech and, hey, you know, Jets on 3 or whatever. and he's kind of standing in the crowd with everybody, kind of waiting for the head coach. And he's like, oh, yeah, that's me. I'm going to go do that. So I think he's the right kind of guy. I think people are just going to, they're just going to expect a lot right away. And that's the way New York is.
Starting point is 00:08:03 So I want to transition into another quarterback story. Adam Schaefter's tied in. You know, you and I both work with him and Schaefter saying, basically, Aaron, it goes much deeper than money. This is not a money issue. And I, football is very unique, is that the NBA has always been a story league and it's a big personality league. You can have noise around your team. It doesn't matter that much. In the NFL, I mean, you have to have a choreography.
Starting point is 00:08:29 You're memorizing a playbook. Any noise, anybody going off doing their own thing and you get sacked or they run the wrong route off the tree. And I look at Green Bay and I think to myself, Aaron in his, when he's happy, can be a little condescending. He is, he has always said, he's a little California cool. He's really smart. He knows it. Green Bay has always been kind of a weird fit for a guy that could be a model, a hollow fit. It's a weird fit.
Starting point is 00:08:54 He always feels like the Rams quarterback playing in Green Bay, right? Sure, sure. And so now he's gone public. Let me just ask you, how would it not affect, doesn't it just automatically create tension in the room? How do you not address it? How do you address it? As the head coach, I wouldn't want to have to touch that. with a 10 football. I mean, that is just the
Starting point is 00:09:16 the weirdest situation going into training camp because during training camp, especially if you're going to start grooming this young quarterback in Jordan Love, you have to start putting him in positions to be successful in team meetings and on the field, right? Like you show highlights on purpose to like energize the guys to remind them like, hey, this is our guy. So are you going to start doing that with Aaron kind of floating out there? Like how do you, how do you even go about that situation? I'm not envious of his position.
Starting point is 00:09:46 The other thing, when you look at Rogers, I mean, he's got options now. And if I'm a detective working this case, you know, is he going back? Is he, you know, going to hold out? I'm just looking at facts. Things that I can connect some dots on. Dave done, same agent for Carson Palmer. Carson Palmer sat out of CINC. Carson Palmer made a lot of money before he decided to sit out for CINC.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Carson Palmer had other options. He said, hey, I'll go do something else. I mean, the guy lives in Idaho now. He's just kind of off the grid. Yeah, and very similar to Aaron. They had been slided by their organization. They felt, you know, there were issues philosophically, principles that they don't agree on.
Starting point is 00:10:26 I mean, those are big-time things, right? These are foundational, you know, relational issues, okay? Yeah. So if you're off on those, why go back? And plus, did you see the guy play golf the other day? I mean, the guy might make a run on the PGA tour. Did you see him on Jeopardy? He's got options, right?
Starting point is 00:10:43 it's not the end of the world. Football isn't the only thing going with Aaron Rogers. So if that's not going to work, he's drawn a line in the sand. Like, good luck. Let me know when you guys are ready to change kind of thing. You know, Mark, you were obviously a very great high school player, high school all-American. You were all-packed 12 and had a lot of success. Big Ben is almost transformational. There's never been a quarterback until Cam Newton that looked like Big Ben. He was 6'6. He had a huge arm. Defenders would bounce off him. Oh, yeah. As great as an athlete, as you were, defenders aren't bouncing off you. You're bouncing to the ground, right? You're like a normal human. So Big Ben, and I've heard this for years, and I just kind of
Starting point is 00:11:21 want your take here. And I've heard this respectfully that his off-seasons are a lot of camping, time with the kid. He's not Brady. Right. And now I see a story, oh, he is working out and he is losing weight. And I'm a little bit like, a little late, bro. I already know where you're going. So, I mean, it is interesting that Tony Gonzalez once said this. He said, Colin was about 3% of pro athletes who are totally dialed in. He goes, I was one of those guys' nutrition. I don't think less of Ben. I just think it's his personality.
Starting point is 00:11:56 I don't think at 39, coming back in great shape, changes everything because I think he is what he is. Sure. Is that cynical of me? Should I be more optimistic? It's a little Colin Coward, California. cynical, okay? But this is a guy who signed his contract for Fox saying that on the way up on the 405 in traffic. Okay, so I'm with you on a lot of these California things. All right. But, you know, is it too late? Maybe. But at the same time, it's not going to hurt. It can't hurt them this year.
Starting point is 00:12:25 That's not going to make, you know, his arm feel worse or his body feel worse or whatever. It just sounds like he's motivated. And I think Bill Cowher kind of alluded to that. He's, you know, for the first time, the team is now, like, really relying on him to be, this perfect guy. And we need you. We can't, you know, there's no Antonio Brown. There's no Levi-on-Bell, like. Not a great old line now.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Yeah, it's just a little bit different. Things are changing, almost like in situations where Peyton Manning kind of made those teams better in Indy, where Tom Brady has made some of those teams better in New England. It's not the Randy Moss year where he's going to throw 100 touchdowns. You know what I'm saying? It might not be like that, but all right, Ben, where are we at? And so I think internally he's kind of, you know, the way things fell off so quickly last year, he feels a little embarrassed.
Starting point is 00:13:11 I think that's important. I think, you know, when that gets smeared in the media like that, and you're just like, dang, like, you know, maybe that was all my fault. And of course, it's not all Ben's fault. But if you feel like that, that's a motivator now. Embarrassment is a motivator now. So can be success. But embarrassment, I mean, that, that is tough to deal with on a national stage like that.
Starting point is 00:13:33 So he's, he sounds motivated. It just, I understand where you're coming from. Like, oh, at 39, now you're going to. stop eating McDonald's and that's not exactly what happened but it just sounds a little it sounds a little late to the party but like I said it can't hurt he'll be just fine
Starting point is 00:13:47 so go back I remember it well I lived in Connecticut in fact I think you beat Manning and Brady let's go back now Tom Brady's obviously still playing so I want you to take me back you're facing Tom Brady and it was a Foxborough yeah Foxborough okay so just
Starting point is 00:14:04 warmups just warmups what are you thinking Yeah. I don't know if I've even said this story to you, but we get to the stadium. We had this awesome pump-up speech the night before. I'm like, you know, try not to peak too soon before the game, you know, because we're, this is a big deal. We're coming back to Foxborough. We had just got embarrassed on Monday night in December, October, no, late November, early December, I think. And we lose, you know, I don't, it was just an absolute blow. I think we scored three points. maybe or might have got shut out. And Rex buries the ball, says we're not talking about this game other than to coach it up and that's it.
Starting point is 00:14:45 We're not whining about it. Like move on. We're going to meet these guys again. And as soon as we get into the locker room after beating the Colts and Antonio Comarty has this crazy runback. Boom. We're right at the 50 yard line. Basically called one of my own plays to throw Braylon Edwards a jump ball up the sidelines to get us in field goal range. Mark Brunel with the hold, Nick Folk with the kick.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Boom. and as soon as we're in the locker room, James Aheadaubo starts screaming and throwing stuff, we're going north, we're going north, like we're going back to Foxborough kind of thing. And I'm like, you know, it's a little northeast, but whatever, directions, who knows, we know how to get there, whatever. So I'm trying to like keep my emotions down,
Starting point is 00:15:25 and I, you know, I'll use humor to do that at times. And, but once we get up there, it was like on, guard your playbook with your life. Don't leave it in your room for, you know, when you go down to meetings or anything, because one of the staff at those hotels is going to get your stuff to Bill Belichick. I mean, it was like, get ready for the fire alarm to go off in the middle of the night. Your headset's going to go out at some point in Foxport.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Like, there were all these things that we were getting ready for. But the one thing that really set it off before the game was they had an advertisement go up about tickets to their next home playoff game during warmups. And I remember playing catch, and I just saw that. And it like stabbed me, like right in the heart. And I was like, hell no. Hell no. There's no way we're losing this game. And that first quarter was just an absolute stalemate. Neither of us did anything. We got a pick from Tom Brady and Dave Harris is running it. I mean, unhitch the trailer, man. Go score because we get stopped. I think we came away with three points or we might have missed the Philgoor or whatever. But we ended up just willing our way to win. And we won the hidden points before halftime. We had just an incredible run. Braylon Edwards against cover zero right there. Boom. Just stiff arms a dude and will's his way in the end zone.
Starting point is 00:16:35 And that was one of the most rewarding experiences because my family was there. I jumped in the crowd. Look at that catch from LT, too. God. I remember this game. Mark, I remember this. We practiced that play. That was a counter on a play from the second game of the season where we beat them bad at home.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Oh, look at that. Throw. Hey, every once in a trash can gets a steak, you know? God, I remember that game. It was fun, man. That was an incredible one. And just the amount of respect I had for them because of who they were, of Bill, Belichick, Tom Brady, what they had built there and what we were competing against. That was
Starting point is 00:17:10 all time. Great having you here. I'm excited to be here. I was just joking about only two of the guys have tried to have me fired. I was just joking about all five. It's just total joke. It's great to have you here. You're going to love it. It's great company. We love our football, and we're going to have you on multiple times during the course of the year. Love it. And I can't wait to watch you grow because those games are fun. The NFC's got so many rivalry game. The NFC West. Oh, yeah. Like it's four teams, four, there's like six, every
Starting point is 00:17:40 game in that division is a rivalry game. It's going to be fantastic. Great having you, bud. Yes, sir, thank you. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeard Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping
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Starting point is 00:21:15 That year, I was squarely a Jets fan. Let's be serious. Oh, you admitted it that year. Of course, Jason was on that team. I know. That was the closest he ever got to. Was he on that team? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Jason was on that team. Yeah. He gave me the tell before the snap. I would move my hand when I did like hard cadences, and he had his head so close to the ground. He was jumping our snap count in training camp. and I was like, dude, what's the deal? And he said, I'll tell you after training camp because I need some more sacks.
Starting point is 00:21:42 And he finally told me I would only move my hand on the fake ones, but I wouldn't move my hand at all on a real snap. And so he could see that from under everybody's, it was crazy. That's how I'm like, what a wily old vet. A wily old vet. You would love that. All right, so Janus is going to go at it with Phoenix tonight. Like many other teams, they tried to block him off the rim and keep him from attacking the hoop. working very well, he's not in the last game.
Starting point is 00:22:08 And Yanis says he's amused, by the way, that teams try to slow him down. There's a team that's building a wall of three people and two guys behind or whatever it might be in trying to stop you. And now you have to not take it personal and make the right play, find the right guy. I feel like I did that better since two years ago, which is funny that there's a defense out there called the Yanis wall. It's funny to me, you know. needed. You need a wall for Janice. He's one of only four players to score at least 100 points in their
Starting point is 00:22:41 first three final games. Rick Berry, Alan Iverson, and Shaq. He has had in this series, game one, 20 points, game 2, 42, and game 3, 41. And they've been easy points. He's not terribly challenged. Well, they are getting DeAndre into foul trouble. You know, this is, he's a young player and Janus has been in the playoffs many times and in these situations, not in the finals obviously, but he has more experienced and a two-time MVP. So he is better, but the foul trouble situation is not helping. If he can stay out of foul trouble, if they can try to, you know, hold the wall with Janus, then, you know, they'll have a chance at least in the home games. I do think that Phoenix is going to play better tonight. I don't think Devin Booker is going to
Starting point is 00:23:29 have a game like he did in game three. they are favored by five tonight are the bucks according to Fox Bed. I mean, I thought this was going to be a long series anyway. I think we overreact game to game in series. We do this all the time. Yeah. It's whatever momentum up. Phoenix is up.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Oh, it's over. Yonis is a fraud and whatever. And then they go home. Like, they're winning the games. They're supposed to win. Just to win your home games. Right. I think this is going to go to seven.
Starting point is 00:23:51 I also like Phoenix. But look, Nick Wright is fully in the, in the, uh, Yonis camp and thinks this is Janus's moment. Yeah. One could also argue it's Chris Paul. moment. Either way, as fans, we're getting an incredible series, and it's going to be a great story at the end of it. And I would love to see Janus win this championship, because it would validate everything that he has in his career so far. We know he's an incredible player. We know he's an
Starting point is 00:24:17 incredible regular season player and has an amazing story. I'd love to see him win a championship. I'd also love to see Chris Paul win a championship. If I'm being honest, I'm kind of leaning towards Chris Paul, because I feel like Janus has more time than Chris Paul to win a championship, but you know how those things go. Championship windows closed quickly, but we'll get game four tonight, and it will be a good one. So the Clippers announced, we finally, I guess, got an answer on what we already knew about Kauai, that he did have a tear in his ACL. So he had surgery. It was successful. There's no timetable for his return. He was injured during the fourth quarter of game four of the Western Conference semifinals against the Jazz. So the Clippers enter the offseason with
Starting point is 00:24:56 Kauai Leonard's health and future at the forefront of their situation. he has a player option in his contract and can choose to opt in 436 million 421 22. If he does so, he can then sign a four-year $181.5 million extension that would start in 22, 23. I'm not moving off Kauai Leonard just as an organization. I think that you can build around him. Well, he's going to sign it for a year deal. He's going to sign it. I just think that if not obviously Kauai Leonard is a better player than Ben Simmons.
Starting point is 00:25:30 but similarly, they have these quirks about them, right? We know Kauai Leonard is not a vocal leader, and he doesn't play all the games and has some injury issues. So I think you need to build a team around what he does not offer. Phoenix had a bunch of young players, a lot of talents. They needed a veteran leader in Chris Paul. You know what Kauai Leonard is. Bring in someone who can fit around that.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Well, what you need to do is get a point guard who historically plays 80 games. So you're going to get you want, the team needs a point guard and needs a point guard who plays a lot. I still contend they could be in the running for Dame Lillard. I really do because you could offer Paul George. There are moves to be made here in Portland. I know it's the West, but to me, the Clippers, Kawhi, Paul George is a second Kauai. And the Blazers do not have anybody in that space. I mean, let's be honest about the Blazers.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Unless they get the forward figured out, they can't beat the Clippers now. next year and they can't beat the Lakers. They're not good enough in the wing. They're Utah. Yeah. With their scorings in the back court, they've got rim protectors, but they don't have a... So I still contend is, to your point, get what Kauai isn't. I want an 80-game point guard.
Starting point is 00:26:45 I don't have to be a sensational guy, but a verbal leader who plays every game. And then I can live with his 16 missed games. You want stars. You can't win in this league without stars. Right. But you also need a formula in a culture and a leader. Like there are different elements that you need. You need a bench.
Starting point is 00:27:05 You need role players who have completely bought into whatever it is that they do. Like there's a way to win. There's multiple ways to win. But one thing you do need is a star. So you can't do it without Kawhi Leonard, but build around the type of star that he is. So the latest NBA 2K cover athletes were revealed this morning. The three NBA 2K-22 covers will consist of Luca Donchich on the standard
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Starting point is 00:28:00 Not feeling it? I don't know if I feel it or not. I think I feel Luca, that's for sure. Luca is the easy one, yeah. I don't know. It's an interesting, you know, Kareem does not get discussed enough. Like, people just don't understand.
Starting point is 00:28:14 If you're in your 20s and 30s, he was more unstoppable than Michael Jordan. You could not stop him. I think people in Los Angeles appreciate Kareem for what he is. You could not stop him. He still has the greatest single shot in the history of the league. It was unblockable, unstoppable, unstoppable.
Starting point is 00:28:34 But I think he's just the greatest winner in the history of the sport. Well, Bill Russell and him. But I mean, he just won at every level. Yeah, Kareem is, they had the story about Kareem that's remarkable. And then there's a couple pieces of video, his freshman year at UCLA. So UCLA is the best basketball program in the country. They just won the national title. Lou Al-Sinder Kareem goes to UCLA.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Freshman could not play back then in college basketball. Freshman couldn't play. He goes to UCLA, and the freshman team with him crushes the national champions. He was unstoppable. And there's pieces of video. There's not many of them. There's a few pieces of video as his freshman year at UCLA when he couldn't play. Dude ran the court.
Starting point is 00:29:21 And I mean, Phil Delane ran the court, Palmett, Dunking. on like NBA senior players at UCLA. Like it's hard to explain how revolutionary Lou Alcindor was at 18, 19, 20 years old. He's definitely in the conversation for the most impactful basketball player at every level in the history of the sport. No question. No question. Because he remains relevant today. What he's done off the court, what he's done as an ambassador for the sport.
Starting point is 00:29:52 More dominant than Michael in high school and college. Not questionable. A much more dominant. And dominant, his first 10 years in the league. He was much more dominant than Michael's first 10 years in the league. Yep. Remarkable, Alzheimer. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:30:38 I used to work for Andy Reid as a scout. Now I give you my unfiltered and raw opinions on everything that goes on the NFL. And you know we're talking college football because of how important the draft is year-round. Listen at the 3-and-out podcast with me, John Middlecom, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football,
Starting point is 00:31:37 or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.
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Starting point is 00:34:25 If their turkey sub had a resume, it would be 99% fat-free, raised without antibiotics. Jersey mics, premium meat, make the sub. Jersey mics, be a sub above. All right, there's a lot of pressure. You've heard the term before tons of pressure. Tons of pressure on people. So we thought today we'd be literal with it. How many tons of pressure are on quarterbacks this year?
Starting point is 00:34:50 because there's a lot of movement and a lot of things going on, and there's rookie quarterbacks and veteran quarterbacks who have moved. One ton being the least pressure, five tons being the most. How many tons of pressure on Carson Wentz? I think he's got five tons of pressure. First of all, he was a mess last year. He had the second worst completion percentage and second worst passer rating. So there are questions if he can play anymore.
Starting point is 00:35:16 He lost his confidence. There are stories he wasn't good in the locker room. he has to prove himself as an athlete, prove himself physically, prove himself mentally, collaboratively. Is he a good guy? There's a lot of talk out there. I think there's a ton of pressure also. This team won last year.
Starting point is 00:35:30 This team's ready to compete for a Super Bowl. There's no time to mess around. They're paying him a ton of money. The Colts don't spend freely five tons. How many tons of pressure are on Dak Prescott? Very little, two tons. First of all, he's got his money, and he leads the NFL in pass yards per game over the last two years. He's not going to have to carry the offense. They've got excellent, excellent wide receivers,
Starting point is 00:35:53 C.D. Lamb, Michael Gallup, Amari Cooper. Zeke, by the way, is reportedly grinding in the workout room. I don't think he has to carry the team. I think the defense will be better. And I think if he goes nine and eight, they'll just be darn happy to have him back in that, and the NFC will get you close to a playoff. How about Sam Darnold? I think about four tons of pressure. Okay. So first of all, they're not going to give him a lot of time. He doesn't have a long contract here. right? He didn't have a lot of time. And this is actually, they've got some players offensively. Christian McCaffrey can play. Chuba Hubbard drafted. So you have two dynamic running backs. DJ Moore is a good receiver. Robbie Anderson, a deep threat he played with in New York.
Starting point is 00:36:32 There's good players here. Now, they may not win games. That's not the thing with them. They could go eight and nine, but if this offense is dynamic and it wasn't with Teddy Bridgewater, then he's fine. The pressure is for Sam to cut down on the turnover. not necessarily just win all these games. They're still in rebuilding mode. But can he make them a dynamic offense? He has all the pieces now. Trevor Lawrence.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Very little. Two tons of pressure. Rookie head coach. Listen, they've been to one playoff in 13 years. If they're fun and they're a dynamic offense and win five games, everybody's going to be happy. He's got a long leash here. Nobody's going to judge him week one.
Starting point is 00:37:16 It's also a very casual NFL. market. It's more of a college football market than a pro market. There's not a ton of media pressure here. How many tons of pressure are on Baker Mayfield? I would say four. I think we've come to the conclusion that he's not Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen or Justin Herbert as an athlete or Lamar Jackson. But I do think they have the best offensive line and best running game. I do think they have the right coach and GM. And the truth is in the last three years he has the second most turnovers in the league. There is a sense now that Baker can only screw it up. This team's going to make the playoffs. They've got an excellent
Starting point is 00:37:48 offensive line and running game. The pressure is on Baker to be composed against the Baltimore's, the Pittsburgh and big rivalry game. So there is, there's real pressure. By the way, if he plays poorly, he didn't get a long contract. How about Jimmy Garapolo? I would say two tons of pressure, not a ton. He's not the future of the team. They drafted a quarterback, Trey Lance with the number three spot. And there's no pressure on staying healthy. I mean, you get hurt or you don't. So, I mean, I think the pressure with him is, I mean, we know he's going to win if he's healthy. He has there. I think the pressure for him is, hey, I got to stay healthy.
Starting point is 00:38:24 I've got to win some games because I'm not going to be here forever. And I want good teams and good rosters to trade for me or vibe for me in the near future. How many tons of pressure on two in the Sangabaloa? I would say five, but I'll say four because I think they're good enough to win games with him being okay. And a lot of Sundays, their defense and special teams are great. He doesn't have to throw for 300 yards a game, but they did get him Will Fuller. They have addressed the offensive line. He did go six and three as a starter last year, so let's not go crazy.
Starting point is 00:38:52 That's why I have them making the playoffs. He does not have to carry them. What he can't be is overwhelmed, and there is pressure in that division, which has some really good defenses. How much is on Lamar Jackson? Not much. I'll say two. I think we expect him to make the playoffs and win a playoff game, but it was an MVP two years.
Starting point is 00:39:12 years ago. He's gotten better. Most of the pressure is, hey, can he win more than one playoff game? That's not the end of the world. How many tons of pressure are on Ben Rothesberger? One. I think this is his last year. I think he knows it. I think we know he has a bad old line. I don't think we think it's a Super Bowl team. I think he's a Hall of Famer. I don't see any pressure on him. I think if they go nine and eight or eight or nine, he's not going to get all the blame. That's a bad old line and they can't run the football and they're haven't run the football since Lavian Bell left. How about Daniel Jones?
Starting point is 00:39:46 A ton of pressure. I'm sorry. They went and got Kenny Goladay. They went and drafted a wider receiver for their first pick. Saquan Barclay's healthy. They have gone out and spent money. This is New York City. He's got Jason Garrett, who's a way above average offensive coordinator. We all like Joe Judge. Their defense is excellent. If they don't win, it's not because of the defense and it's not because of the coach.
Starting point is 00:40:08 And it's not because they don't have weapons. They got Slayton. They got Gullivan. a day. They got Sterling Shepard. They got players. This should be a playoff team. How many tons of pressure on Matthew Stafford? Four. I wouldn't say five because it's a great division. And if he didn't win the division, I think we'd be like, okay, the Seahawks won it or the Niners won it. So I'll say only four, but the Rams gave up two first round picks, win games. How about Cam Newton? One. This is the last year. I don't think he has much to work with.
Starting point is 00:40:37 I mean, people celebrated Nelson Aguilar and Kendrick Bourne. Let's slow down here. This is a borderline playoff team, if anything, in an increasingly good division. That's our ton of pressure. Spotlight comfort, Navian, tankless, Walder filters. Go to tankless, maidsimble.com. Look up Navian, 15-year limited warranty.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Great stuff today. The NFC tomorrow with joy. It's the hurt. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.
Starting point is 00:41:12 This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and headwriter, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.
Starting point is 00:41:36 It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:41:58 or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football, or my career in sports media.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfilled conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford show on the Iheart radio app,
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