The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 07/20/2021 - HOUR 3 - NBA Finals, Lillard

Episode Date: July 20, 2021

Preview of game 6 of the NBA FinalsMore teams are rumored to be interested in Damian LillardGuest: Cuttino Mobley Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Tonight's game six of the finals is featured on the free-to-play Fox Bet Super Six app. Scan the QR code below, download the app, and answer six questions about the game for your shot to win $1,000. Here we are, Milwaukee, different psychological effect tonight. So now Milwaukee, for the first time since 1971, is favored to win a championship on the precipice of doing it in a handful of hours tonight, and it'll be interesting to watch if they get tight. And now, Phoenix, we've seen Phoenix in that Clipper series when they had a 3-1 series lead. They came home and just were completely flat.

And so that will be interesting tonight because you knew whoever led this series with a chance to clinch it, this is such foreign territory that there's nothing to comp it to. There really isn't. So you could say Milwaukee, a team that struggles, the free throw line tonight, up seven or eight, outplays Phoenix.

And all of a sudden, Phoenix desperately is just fouling him, getting them in the line. And you're adding a layer of pressure to Janus at the line and all those bigs at the line. So it'll be a fascinating. If I was Milwaukee, I'd want to go into this thing with a very comfortable late game lead. Because you can see Milwaukee, and it's nothing against them. It's like, I've seen great teams fold in big spots. Like just, it's just too much for the moment. Cotino Mobley played in the NBA for 11 years.

Average 16 points a game. By the way, led the Clippers to their first playoff series win 15 years ago. He now joins us live. I mean, you've been in these big playoff games, and you got to a playoff with a team that didn't get to the playoffs with the Clippers. So you can kind of relate to this. When you get into this territory, nobody on the roster has mostly been in this territory.

And do you, is it, I mean, what if Milwaukee leads by three? there's two and a half left. Have you been on the floor in a playoff series or a playoff game and thought, okay, it feels different. This feels intense. We're tight. No, yeah. You know, I think right now it's just showing the experience of Milwaukee, regardless.

You know, Janice and Middleton came in about seven years ago. They had the worst record in the league. And, you know, previous years, you know, the Alston first round, second round, and teams were playing the same defense on Janus. So I think now you can see a little bit of Phoenix where the maturity level is not quite there. Yeah. Their center, you know, Janus attacking him. I think psychologically he has him a little bit.

But when it, you know, again, I can't count Chris Paul out. So if the game is close and it's one or two possessions, you know, Chris Paul's not going to turn it over like he did the last game, you know, that happened. I just don't see it. I think it's this time if it's close. If it's five or six or seven, I think Milwaukee takes it. You know, the last three years, the Raptors, the Lakers, and now the Bucks. They don't shoot the three as well as a lot of other teams. In fact, the seven teams that led the NBA in three-point shooting this year combined,

have won a single playoff series. And for the third year in a row, the Raptors last year, Lakers and the Bucks, we have a team that's more known for its physicality and its defense than it is its three-point shooting. What do you make of that? Well, it tells me, Colin, that, you know, listen, we do that in the big three. We beat you up a little bit instead of shooting all the threes. It's kind of old-school basketball. Yeah. And what it's telling me is, you know, the post game is coming back, more so inside-out. As good as the guards are, today's game, as skilled as they are,

I think the physicality, like you said, is showing a little bit more. So, you know, we beat you, run you off the three, and then clob their pains and make you, you know, pass the ball a little bit more where we have the time, the clock on our side, which you move in the ball a lot. I think that helps out a lot. And then you see the Toronto's of the world, the Lakers of the world, and then you have Milwaukee's of the world and what they're doing right now. I think for me, listen, I grew up with you.

inside out, more physicality. So I kind of like it more and I do just shooting a whole bunch of threes and bailing people out. What do you do? Devin Booker is clearly the go-to score for the Sons. Let's say Chris Paul doesn't play particularly well, does not have a good finals. He's 36 years old. Drew Hollidays made him look every day of that.

You run the Phoenix Sons. What do you do with Chris Paul? Do you bring him back? One year, two year. What if he demands three? What do you do? Because this series, he's looked fatigued. He has looked 36.

Yeah, you know, listen, I love Chris Ball. He's one of my favorites. You know, Drew Holliday, listen, he's one of the best two-way guards that ever played a game. I love it. He's strong. He's thick. You know, he puts the pressure on you not only offensively,

but, I mean, you know, defensively but offensively. So, I mean, when you have a guy like that who's committed defensively, and then you have Milton, who's trying his best. defensively, right? They don't have a slump team. They have a team with PJ Tucker. You have Yonis, you have a holiday. You have a lot of guys defensively. So even if Chris would try to get a switch, you know, Yonis is jumping on him. You know, Middleton is jumping on the length. And that always has hurt Chris when it came to big guards late in the playoffs guarding him. Yeah. So, you know, it's interesting about free throws. Nick Wright said the other day,

he said free throws are overrated. And he proved. that. He said, Shack couldn't hit him during the Laker dynasty. Duncan couldn't hit him during the Spurs dynasty. Yannis can't hit him with Milwaukee. LeBron's primary liability has been free throws. And that Milwaukee doesn't shoot him particularly well, but they get so many opportunities because they're so physical and aggressive that if they shoot 60% as a team, it's okay because they're shooting almost twice as many. Yonis has 66 free throw attempts in the series. Devin Booker's got a third of that. And when you were in a playoffs in your NBA career,

did you think free throws were overrated? Because Phoenix shoots them very well, but they're not getting to the line because they're a jump shooting team. What do you make of that? Yeah, I mean, listen, they always say to us when we were younger, if you want to be a star, you got to get to the free throw line to change the game, put possession,

put pressure on the starting guard who's defending you or the starting team who's defending you. And, you know, it's just Janus, truthfully, who's struggling, who struggles from the free throw line. Everybody else, if you foul them with Milwaukee, they're making their free throws. So, you know, Janice is getting into the paint. He's not shooting threes. And I think Devin Booker, you know, if they lose his series, he needs to literally take a page out of this book and say, listen, I need to bulk up a little more.

I need to work on my defense, become more of a great two-way player. because people are comparing Devin Booker to the Kobe Bryant, which I am too offensively, but then Kobe's defensive tenacity hawking down the court, you know, making it uncomfortable for you defensively is something that Kobe did and Kobe attacked you. You know, he's in the weight room. So he's attacking you first, second, third,

in the fourth quarter. It was like his first quarter. So I think that's what Devin Booker do more of. It's a lot of jump shooting. But again, that's today's age where a lot of guys are shooting more jumpers than they are, pounding themselves in the paint. So it's interesting.

I've asked this question to my guest today. So I did not watch Space Jam with Michael Jordan. I didn't watch it, nor am I going to watch LeBron's kid movie. I'm not interested. But once again, LeBron is inviting a comparison with Michael. And the word is, the Michael movie's better than the LeBron movie. And during the summer, we saw last year the MJ documentary. which when it went to Netflix, has three times the audience of the NBA finals this year.

And it's interesting. Joy and I talked about this earlier, is that LeBron kind of invited some of these comparisons with MJ. And it's not serving him necessarily very well because LeBron, Michael's Shoes next year, this year outsold LeBron's by five times. and he has not been in his prime for 25 years. Go back, and it's hard to explain to people in their 20s, because they grew up with LeBron. Go back to plan against Michael the aura of Michael at its apex, that you remember, Catello.

And if I'd never experienced the Michael Jordan years, what was it like? How big, how popular, how glamorous, what was it like? Well, okay, so it's a little unfair, Colin, right? Let me tell you why. Michael was amazing. Okay, he was everything. I mean, come fly with me.

Come fly with me, too. Space Jam, be like my commercials. And then you think about this, Joy, you know this. The sneakers that were, the retro sneakers everybody wears. If Michael Jordan walked down the street today, and you have, have a five-year-old, seven-year-old, 10-year-old. Kids wouldn't know him, but they would definitely know LeBron James, but they're wearing Michael Jordan's sneakers because they're more fashion. It's more of a fashion thing. So the popularity, they don't know Michael Jordan. They just

understand that their father or their mother wearing the sneakers of Michael Jordan or it's something hip to do because, you know, there's retro and it's more into the, you can't wear LeBron James as fashion. That's just not what it is. Yeah. Right? But like, think, about Batman. There was Jack Nicholson and then, you know, you had Heath Ledger. I thought Heath Ledger was a better Joker. That's just what I thought, right? And then you have like, was it Michael Keaton? Right. But I love Christian Bale as Batman. So it's just to each his own. And then, you know, LeBron James always getting a lot of whatever LeBron James does, especially if he tries to, you know, copy it or whatever you want to call it, it's always going to be criticism

because it's Michael Jr. is your first love. He's our first. first love, especially 50 and under. Definitely Michael Jordan is your first love. So no one really did what Michael Jordan did. So it's kind of hard to get that out. It's that ideology. It's that preconceived notion of like Mike was the guy who first did it, which he wasn't.

It was Dr. J. It was Elgin Baylor. It was this person. It was that person. And Mike copied them guys, but he just did it better. So, I mean, you know, to LeBron's defense, he will never outsell Michael Jordan's sneakers because everybody, loves Michael Jordan sneakers. It's a fashion thing.

Yeah. There is some value in also that Joy and I were talking about this earlier is that the world so fragmented. Everybody's attention. There's a million social media things, cable TV, network TV, HBO Mac, there's a zillion channels. So everybody's attention is splintered and fragmented. When Michael was playing, you had basically four channels. ESPN was the cable channel and everybody watched, you know, I can remember, I mean, I can tell you now I don't watch broadcast TV much. The last broadcast television show that I went to every week, not counting sports, not counting, was Sopranos. Like every Sunday night, I watched Sopranos. But before that, that's where I watched all my games. That's why everybody went to watch the

Michael Jordan Games is as popular as the NBA is now. We've got golf channels and tennis. channels and hockey channels. The audience is all splintered up. And so... No, you're so right. Yeah, guys will get... They'll get richer now, but they were more famous than they are now. Like, we were talking about Michael Jackson. I didn't know anybody that didn't like Michael Jackson. Anybody. Right. Right. If I went up to my friends today and say, Pitbull, half like him, half don't. Everybody liked Michael Jackson. Did you have Michael Jackson's CDs and albums? Oh, my God. Yes. I still have his album.

I have his albums, Prince albums, Rolling Stones. I have all of them. I have all of them. I have all the vinals upstairs. I mean, that's just what it was. I mean, you used to pick your college, joy, your brother may know this too. You used to pick your college based on how many TV games that they would give you. You know what I mean?

When I went to the Rockets, my first year, and this was 98-99, the Rockets were playing 14 televised games. that's why they knew me myself so fast and then I have Scotty Pippen and Charles Barkley Akeem Elijah one There was probably another rookie that was amazing But I got more clout because people saw me more They saw me more at that time

Isn't that crazy? Isn't that crazy? And now every game's on TV. Everybody's games on TV. Every single high school, you can be five years old making layups. It's crazy. Katino, good seeing you my man.

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He's absolutely right about TV games. Free agents would pick teams. Oh, they're on 17 NBC games. We've got to go play for them. And isn't that absurd to think? Well, it is absurd. to think, and I don't want to be old person either, but like, it's

impossible to explain that that was a thing now because it's just, there's just access to everything. You can stream games and kids can watch high school games streams. When I watch television. So even if it's not televised, it doesn't matter.

I literally, I have a red zone channel, so I can watch with my multiple TVs, every single NFL game Now think about this. All of them. Yeah.

It used to be that you watched Monday night football in the 70s and 80s because at half time, Howard CoSell would have the highlights of Sunday's games. Yeah. And yet it was often the first time you had seen them. Oh, my God, you had to wait 24 hours or longer just to get a glimpse of the Eagles Giants game because you lived in Seattle and it wasn't on TV and you weren't getting all the highlights. That's why I argue that players have more power now because it used to be all about the team and a city and loyalty. And you can watch any game from anywhere now.

I asked my oldest nephew years ago, like, who's your favorite NBA player? And he was like Russell Westbrook. I'm like, you live in Miami. Like, you don't like a heat player? He's like, who cares if I live in Miami? I can watch any time I want to. I'm like, that's a great point. Like 20 years ago, he would be a, he would have a favorite player on his team that he watched.

in his market, but you don't need to do that anymore. So a result of that also is players have more power because you can have a die-hard fan in Seattle that's a fan of some player in Houston. It just doesn't matter. You have access to different things now. So Devin Booker has been playing well in the finals, despite the Suns being on the brink of elimination tonight.

He's had back-to-back 40-point games and has drawn some comparisons to Kobe Bryant, but he doesn't want to put himself in the same conversation as one of his mentors. Yeah, I haven't really really really. thought about it much. I know it's something that everybody has going on right now, and I didn't make that comparison myself. And, you know, I just leave it at what he's done for me as a mentor and the advice that he's left me with, you know, so I try to take bits and pieces of his mentality

and his approach. But, you know, I should never be compared to Kobe Bryant. I like that he shut this down. Booker has been linked pretty consistently with Kobe because of a style of play and because he was his mentor. They're dominating, scoring two guards. He has a tattoo, be legendary, because Kobe wrote that on his shoes. Yes. But I also like that he's shutting that down. And I wish we would stop comparing everybody in this way all the time.

We've been talking about the LeBron MJ comparison forever. And when you're the top of the league, you're going to get compared to Michael no matter what. Like, Kobe got compared to Michael. The only comparison, honestly, that I think is totally fair and it fits. is Kobe played and sounded like Michael when he first started. I mean, their games were very similar. They had that kind of the way they walked.

They were bought the same size. Kobe idolized him. And so he took some of Michael's stuff. Now, Michael was stronger. Kobe had better shooting range. Kobe, I thought was the better ball handler. Michael was the better defensive player. But I did think those comparisons.

And they were both really scores first. And they had the same mentality. We're always going to make these. comparisons, but I do think in some way when we over-emphasize the comparison, we take away from the experience of both players because we're not enjoying them for what it is they accomplished when they did. Like there's always the era conversations. Like, it's not the same game.

Like, things evolve. Things change. So, like, arguing over whether the Bulls would beat the Warriors, it's like, maybe they would, but who, like, other than just having a fun conversation, it really can't be legitimate. And I think it takes away from both teams' greatness. When I watch Booker Play, stylistically, I don't see Kobe. No, I don't either. I just see a really good scoring two guard.

When I watch Kobe, I saw some Michael. When I watch Janus, it does remind me of a really, really young Lou Alcindor. Corrine Abdued Jabar. See, he reminds me a little bit of LeBron, just his body type. Who's that? Janus. Yeah, because LeBron just played so downhill. He was so dominant.

He was just stronger and faster and just better. better than everybody. It just didn't, not that he wasn't extremely skilled because he, he obviously is, but they remind me of each other. But yeah, like we could do these debates forever. The bucks are favored by five tonight, looking forward to that. So Kyle Lowry is on the free agent market this summer and he's drawing some attention from around the league. The newest team that has interest in him is the Pelicans. According to Mark Stein, there's a rising buzz that New Orleans might make a play for Lowry. He averaged 17.2 points, 5.4 rebounds and 7.3. three assists per game last season, played in 46 games. He has missed at least 14 games in four of the last five seasons. So he's not really an injury prone player, but he has missed more games recently. He's a nice player. He needs a career high, 26 games this season. He gets a lot of pub.

It is this Kyle Lauer thing. It's a nice player. I think he's an assistant. He's a veteran. I do like this move for the Pelicans because they're not going to pay Lonzo Ball, apparently. he's a free agent and they're unlikely to match any significant offer sheet for him and he could end up getting an offer in the range of four years 100 million. So they are going to need to replace Lanzo Ball there.

And Kyle Lowry is a veteran. He's a consistent player. If he can, you know, stay healthy. I don't think it's a bad move for the Pelicans, especially if they're going to lose Lonzo Ball, who's actually been linked to going back to the Lakers. So Ryan Fitzpatrick will suit up for his ninth team as a start. in Washington this year.

He's been in a lot of different situations throughout his career and he thinks he's finally found the best one. This is the best situation I've ever been in or the best situation that I've ever gone into as the guy. I just feel like the way that I'm playing the last four years,

kind of the progression of my career, it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense that 17 years in, you know, physically I feel great, mentally, emotionally, I'm in the right spot. I just think I am set up for success this year and I'm really looking forward to it. Well, it's the best defense problem. I mean, I don't have all nine teams he's played for, but I would say this.

Defensively, he will not have to win. He won't have to, like last year with Miami, similarly, he didn't really have to, I mean, Tua. He had to compensate for a bad defense. Tuo went six and three. Yeah. And Tua was throwing for 120 yards a game. Tua went six and three. Similarly, he does not have to throw for 300 yards.

In this division, he could throw for a buck 90. They run the ball fairly well. I think it's a great situation for him. It is a division that is obviously very winnable. I like Rom Rivera. I like what they're building on. He finally has a good culture there. It's a good situation for him, but I just, I don't know.

Maybe I'm just, you know, being a DAC Homer, but I just like the Cowboys better in this division. Best quarterback usually wins your division. That's fair. Best quarterback wins your division. And Dax's the best quarterback in that division. No question. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.

The Herd Live News. Kevin O'Connor, respected reporter this morning, says the Heat, Nick, Sixers, Rockets, Kings are in hot pursuit of Damien Lillard. They are on the phone. We'll address that next. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.

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A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clivert Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way,

this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment,

and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok. Talk Podcast Network on TikTok.

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Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so you all know. I mean, at this point, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.

Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Keer Games. And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience

in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking, Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing. and we're still chasing it and we don't know when we've done enough because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses.

Steve Burns, Dustin Ross, because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth? Are you a good person because you're afraid? Because that's two different intentions, bro. Absolutely. And that's two different levels of trust. I want you to just really be a good person.

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Plus live from Rolling Loud Miami, Bianca Belair battles Carmella and Big E takes on Apollo. It's the summer of Sina on Friday Night Smackdown 8 Eastern. Only on Fox. Okay. Damian Lillard, no secret is not entirely happy. We're going to play Dame Time or Lame Time. These are the teams, according to Kevin O'Connor, among the teams that are aggressively pursuing Damian Lillard. The Miami Heat.

That feels like Dame Time. That feels like a legitimate team. First of all, they would package a deal with Tyler Hero, a talented young guy who had an off year and multiple draft picks. Jimmy Butler and Dame fit together. One's a star score. who's not a great defender. Jimmy Butler gives you both ends of the floor. And by the way, the heat were plus 200 with Butler on the floor

and minus 200 without him. So they're two Jimmy Butler dependent. The Kings. Lame Time. Damien Lillard does not want to rebuild. And the only way you would get Damian Lillard is if you gave up Deerran Fox. So Dame has no interest losing basketball game.

Portland's better than Sacramento now. The New York Knicks. Lame time. Again, in the East, any asset they have, R.J. Barrett, who you're a big fan of, you'd have to give him up. So, again, Dame would walk in and have Julius Randall. Like at some point, that's not a championship team if you line them up with Philadelphia's talent, Boston's talent, and Milwaukee's talent. Yeah, the 76ers. Dame time. You could swap Dame and Ben Simmons. Those are tradable assets and their contracts. you know, they work.

So it'd have to be Simmons and draft picks. I don't think Portland would do it, but I would say Simmons solves some of Portland's wing issues. Dame is obviously a great fit with Embed. So if I'm Philadelphia, I would do it in a heartbeat. The question is, can Portland do better than Ben Simmons and draft picks? I don't know the answer to that, but that seems reasonable. I don't think they can, but I just think we put a lot of pressure on Ben Simmons.

Yeah. The Rockets. Lame time. Again, bad franchise. They're in a total rebuild. Now, the good news is they have the second pick, the 23rd pick, 24th pick. If you want to just go rebuild, call the Warriors and get their lottery picks in Wiseman, or call the Rockets and get their three first round picks.

But I don't know, Portland feels like does Portland want to completely utterly rebuild for the next four years? I don't know. The Celtics. Dame time. That's legitimate. So remember, this is a little bit like Philadelphia. you could give Jalen Brown to the Blazers and draft picks. Tatum and Dame would have to be like co-favorants to win the East.

And Portland would be getting back a kid that played in the Pac-12 at Cal, 23 a game, way better defender than Dame, bigger athlete than Dame. And still developing. Not this one to me, I'm not sure you can get a lot better than Jalen Brown, who would be in a, by the way, one of the knocks on Portland. is they have two great scoring guards, neither plays defense. Jalen Brown's an elite defensive guard. You're seeing what Drew Holliday is doing to Chris Paul. Jalen Brown can play defense. Mavericks.

Again, it's lame time. So what's Portland get? Christop's Porzingis. They've already got Biggs. He's expensive. They don't have any young assets. So they have Luca. Yeah. But I'm not sure. They don't have a draft pick this year. So Dallas does not have a draft pick. and I think Portland would want more than Christop's Porzingas, who should be a three, but is paid like a one or a two. Hot water that never runs out, go tankless with Navian tankless water heaters, tankless made simple.com, and driven to be the best, go to MDrive for Men.com,

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Let's be honest about it. I think it's great if the Bucks win tonight and great if Aaron Rogers holds out. It's better for our show. Well, I want a game seven. Yeah, you want a game seven. But if Aaron holds out, we root for chaos. I'm not rooting for the Packers to lose. I'm rooting for chaos.

God, I just, it's chaos. I got to know what he's up to. I mean, the fact that Aaron is texting a media memory. Yeah, I mean, like, why bother to say that that doesn't mean anything? Very interesting. Well, I got my lead tomorrow. Well, no, I got, it's got my second story. Buck's sons his lead.

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