The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 08/13/2021 - Best of The Herd

Episode Date: August 13, 2021

Colin reacts to Mac Jones' debut with the Patriots and why he will never live up to what Tom Brady was despite having a better college career. He believes another rookie quarterback is destined to shine on what we've seen in training camp so far. He also gives high praise to Major League Baseball for the Field of Dreams game and why they need to become more like the NFL. Plus, 6-time All Star Jermaine O'Neal joins the show to talk about his behind the scenes documentary about what really happened at "The Malice At The Palace".  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, FS1. I had half a pan of casserole, a pint of ice cream, went into a food coma at 825, slept, woke up at 5.20 this morning. Nine hours of deliciousness. I can tell it's football season. It was a little hot in L.A. yesterday. It was very hot. So it didn't feel like football season, but the casserole and the ice cream and the couch. What kind of casserole?

It had ham and peas and a little parmesan cheese, and it was melting all over the ice. the place and I'm like, all right, that's, that's what you make. That's what you make in the fall. Right. And I just fell asleep. Oh, what a glorious night. Then we had a baseball game that felt like a football game. It was a big event. That was crazy fun. That was like, it was magical. It's like, it's like, it's almost like Fox made it feel like, I mean, Fox, we do a really good job in big production pieces. It was a big, we do the best job. Yeah. In the kind of live production when it comes to sports. Live production. We do events great, right? Like, that was an event. It's like, finally baseball's like, it was beautiful.

Oh, it was gorgeous. It was got footballs in the cornfields and it was just fantastic. The sunset in Iowa. Great sports night. All right, let's just start with this, though. Oh, I got, I slept well last night. I can, that casserole, post-casserol shows are always the best. So Mac Jones. for the Patriots. And you know what my feeling was on Mac Jones. The Patriots didn't give up anything. He fell to them in the draft. So I'm okay with that. That's fine.

I think he has a very low ceiling. I think he does things they'll like. He's efficient. He's detailed. He's an anticipatory thrower, low ceiling. But when he was rumored to be number three, I'm like, I'm not giving up first round picks for Mac Jones. You've got to be out of your gourd.

So here's the thing about the NFL right now. If you look at the teams that we all put in the Super Bowl bubble, they all have something in common. Kansas City. Baltimore, Seattle, Green Bay, Buffalo, Tampa Bay. They all have one thing in common. It's not their defense. It's not their coach.

You know what they can do? In 2021 NFL football, they can give you cheap points. Two play drives. Throw it over the top. During the Belichick era, which about three quarters of it, we were a running and a defensive league, that's great. You can win 10 games that way. But Miami and New England were like,

the ceiling's lower, right? You got to do the Kansas City, Buffalo, Aaron Rogers, Russell, you get cheap points. Brady, over the top, Mike Evans. The Rams, by the way, had the number one defense in the NFL. They got rid of their quarterback. Why? And they went and drafted speed receivers.

Why? What do the Rams do? They're like, we're not good enough at quarterback and we're not fast enough at wide receiver. Their defense was number one. Out in the playoffs real quick. Steelers. Their defense was number three.

Baltimore. Can't just do it on defense. So when I watched Mac Jones last night, here's the dilemma of replacing Tom Brady. Mac Jones is exactly what I thought he would be. He's got good feet. He's an anticipatory thrower more than cam. He'll make adjustments at the line. He's accurate.

He's calm. He's supposedly his prep is fantastic. Like this kid lives in a playbook. But you're not making any plays. You're not extending any plays. I mean, Brady was drafted by a major league baseball team. Brady was bigger. and he was stronger. Brady always had a plus arm.

He doesn't have a plus arm as much anymore. Brady always had a great arm. It's the best cold weather thrower I've ever seen in my life, including Marino, including Elway. Brady threw an incredible ball in cold weather, and Foxborough has it. And then now what New England has watching last night, they got a little bit of two things. You got Cam, who actually has some playmaking, but he's not as accurate. He's not an anticipatory thrower.

The guy's got to be open. And there's limitations on Cam's. efficiency. Like, that's not what he's for. But boy in the red zone, Camtucked that ball in, like they don't have many playmakers. Or you can go to Mac Jones, who will be better in the efficiency and the accuracy stuff. And the coaches will love that because this is like the most detailed, most, you know, like pocket protector coaching staff of all time, right? They do all the details. The screen passes. They're like the best in the league. They're traps. They're special teams. They're defensive coverage. They never

give you cheap touchdowns. So this is the problem with replacing Brady. Like Brady could give you both. Brady gave you super efficiency, super details, but he was 6'5 with a great arm, often in lousy, Foxborough weather, and he could throw it over the top and he can, you got everything. Well, he's not a super athlete. A, he was a bet, you know, Brady moves in the pocket as well as anybody I've ever seen.

So he was always sneaky athletic. So I just watched him like, yeah, Matt Jones is why I thought Mac Jones. would be. It is what I thought he would be. But that's not what, that's why the Rams went and got Stafford and in the draft. We made fun of him in the draft, right? All that. Gives, he gets another fast receiver. You just can't win with defense and a, I mean, the Rams have a brilliant head coach, the best defense in the league, the best defensive linemen in the league. They don't commit a lot of turnovers. They have an incredible culture. And they were one and done in the playoffs. Because Jared Goff can't extend a play and because they don't have an over-the-top

receiver. Kansas City does and Buffalo does and Tampa Bay does and Seattle does and Green Bay does. And Baltimore, what do they do this off season? I've got big play wide receivers potentially. So, you know, I watched New England and I thought to myself, you can make an argument this morning that Mack Jones is a better fit for them. You can make that argument. And he's obviously the future. You can make that argument. But boy, the ceiling feels really low. It feels really low. and I think they go in 10 games. But I look at New England and I think this is the dilemma replacing Brady. Do you want the playmaker or the efficient guy?

Can't do two. It's not the way the NFL works, not college, not the Mountain West Conference. It's not the way it works. So it's not a negative feeling. This is what I've said about Tua. Now, Miami went and got receivers. They got Will fuller. They get Jaden Wall.

So when I watched New England last night, I felt like I'm watching the Monument. Miami Dolphins without all the speed and playmaking it wide receiver. And New England show no ability to draft that position. So I think Mack Jones is somebody that coaches could easily talk themselves into this morning and say, well, he's just going to be accurate. And by the way, if it was just about great coaching, smart quarterback play, pre-snap adjustments, and efficiency, Drew Breeze would have six rings.

But Drew couldn't throw it over the top at the end. And that's what I saw last night. The dilemma of Post Brady. You know, the dilemma is hard. Maybe the message last night is, boy, put your arms around life when it's good. Because if Good walks out the door, it is really hard to replace. 10-11 wins. No Super Bowl.

By the way, here's Cam Newton talking about it last night about Mac Jones. He came to me and talked to me, and we talked it out about, you know, know, just his expectation, you know, and every young quarterback goes through it, the excitement, the anticipation, you know, he wants to be so perfect. And I see his preparation is always, you know, pristine. And, you know, that's what I admire about him. The dilemma. That's not bad.

I think you did find your future quarterback. Just know the ceiling's going to be low. You have to be a perfect football team, which mostly the season. Saints have been the last five years with Breeze. And you kept thinking they were smarter and better coached and more detailed. And they didn't got to have two play drives. The Chiefs got. Got to have three play drives.

That's what's Seattle. Green Bay have. All right, let me shift to this. So the bears and the dolphins, and this is something I wish the NFL did more of. In fact, I wish, I've said this for years. I do not understand television executives in America. why do you not put NFL scrimmages on TV as games? They would get a million.

If the Justin Fields of the Bears and two of the dolphins was a two-hour television show last night, it would have beaten everything on television in America last night, except maybe the baseball game and I don't know how many viewers they had. So they play. They have these scrimmages, right? And over the course of the next 10 years, you're going to see more of these scrimmages and fewer preseason games. I'm here for it. I think I just, it's underval.

Like the Summer League for 20 years, nobody took care of the Summer League. Nobody paid attention to it. Now they put it on and it gets real ratings, right? Like start putting these scrimmages on to a Justin Field. So here's the story out of the scrimmage yesterday. Four quarterbacks took snaps in the Bears, Miami Dolphins game. One got ooze and Oz, according to the. the purport. Ouse and Oz

from the fans. Ooh, whoo! Justin Fields. That was the guy. And this is where the Niners are and where the Bears are. Garapolo and Dalton, like all these snaps

and experience. They ain't ooze and Oz guys. And players are fans too. And coaches love when players, they draw up a play and the player runs it all the way to the end. And Trey Lance and Justin Fields are not going to do that.

Sometimes they're just going to wiggle around and make a play, and the fans are going to go, ooh, and the players are going to go, oh. And that's why Justin Fields is so exciting. You've got to have buy-in from players. This is what I said about Mac Jones. You can be smart and efficient and accurate. Not getting a lot of ooze and awes with Mac Jones or to it.

You're getting ooze and Oz with Justin Fields. And they need a playmaker. They got one top receiver, Alan Robinson than a bunch of kids. They have one young tied-in, Cole come at that I like a lot from Notre Dame, but he's young and he's still developing. They have one running back

that is healthy and that I really like. They need a playmaker. And the Bears and the Buccaneers are very similar. The Bears won a title in 85. The Bucks won it in 2002. They've had Hall of Fame coaches, Hall of Fame defenses, all-time great. They've got a Super Bowl last 30 years, all that stuff.

The Bucks and the Bears can never get the quarterback right. And the Bucks finally did. And it's like, oh my God, best team in the league. The Bears fans, the Bears organization can't like Tampa get the quarterback right. They've had cool guys, Jim McMahon. Tough guys, Jim McMahon. Smart, aloof guys with big arms, Jay Cutler. Big arm Rex Grossman.

They've never had the guy, the arm, the athleticism, the maturity, not trying to be too cool, not trying to show off his arm, just a winner. They never had like just a winner. Every bear quarterback's got an issue. McMahon is too into being cool. And Cutler's too aloof. Didn't get along with teammates. And Grossman was an arm and not much else. Good arm.

It's like Justin Fields now. They got an O-Nah guy. Don't screw it up. Chicago is one of the great cities in America. One of the great sports towns in America. And I swear to God, the buccaneers and the bears have had everything. They've had Hall of Famers, coaches, defenses, everything. And they can't get the quarterback right.

I don't know what's in the water, the Chicago. I don't know what it is on Lakeshore Drive. Maybe there's some salt coming in and they can't. It doesn't, I don't know. This is exciting. Four quarterbacks took snaps. One, fans are freaking out. And you know the players are because players are fans too.

I read a reporter who was at the scrimmage. I swear it should have been televised. Adam Hogue says there is no doubt. The best quarterback on either field today was. Justin Fields. I'm going to tell you something. Chicago Sports has had great hockey teams. They've won Super Bowls.

The Cubs did it. The White Sox won it. One thing they've never had, the dude at quarterback. A 15-year grown-up can move around, big arm from winning high school program, winning college program.

I think they've got it. I don't know. I haven't seen him enough, but it's exciting. This is one of those things. one of America's great sports cities. L.A.'s had good quarterbacks. New York's had good quarterbacks. Hell, Canada had Warren Moon.

Canada's had... Chicago's never figured it out. Looks like they have it. Sounds like they have it. The sounds of having it are ooze and Oz in 2021. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. On Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.

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This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey. With all the snacks and drinks. Sidebar. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? Oh, they had a bogo. Well, then you got it. Do you want a white collar or something here?

Just hit it. Oh, what are y'all doing? Microphones? Are you making a rap album? Oh, I would. Come on. Could you imagine? I would buy.

I would buy it. Cuts through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake. That sounds delicious. Oh, you're lucky. I'm not a drug addict. You're lucky I'm not an alcoholic. You're lucky I'm not a killer. I love this team and I'm really trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on.

Oh. Listen to soccer moms on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. But last night, the White Sox and the Yan'clock. Yankees, it is projected this morning, I'm told, to be the highest rated baseball game at Fox Sports in 16 years. Here's the conclusion of a crazy and fun night. Anderson hits it in the Air, the Sox win it! Well, you can throw the party, but you never know how it's going to turn out. That's unreal.

And how about six runs on the board in the ninth inning alone, and the White Sox with a walk-off 9-8 win. this was some kind of night for baseball. For the record, it was the conclusion of a baseball game in the middle of a corn field. The movie Field of Dreams is great. They went back, brought in Kevin Costner. It was fantastic. It was wonderful. It looked like a minor league baseball game in the coolest stadium ever.

It was good for the corn industry. It was good for baseball. The White Sox. It was good for Fox. It was good for every single person. When baseball lightens up and, and gets out of their comfort zone, and this goes for most people, be a little less cranky. Wake up with the idea of changing your habits occasionally, and it's amazing how much life can bring you.

You know what baseball didn't have last night? Guys saying things like, here's a way to play the game. Yeah, fun, like in the 70s. But then increasingly in the 80s and 90s and after, there were guys who kept lecturing us on how the game should be played. There is no one way to play football or basketball. Trey Young doesn't play like Zion, doesn't play like Barclay and doesn't play like Steph Curry or LeBron James. And Magic and Michael had different games.

And Byrd was from French lick and had behind the back passes and was a six-nine guy who could shoot. And that's the gift of sports. It doesn't all look the same. And players come from Cuba and Ecuador in baseball. And they come from all over the world. And they come from East Asia. and they come from Iowa and New York and L.A. and all over.

And they come from different cultures and have different personalities. And some are young and some are old. And some throw hard and some throw off speed. And some throw knucklers. And baseball has all this diversity in these different cultures and these different styles. And you got to play the game the same way. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, you don't.

It's what's great about sports. Football quarterbacks now are six-six. or they're Kyler Murray or they're stoic or they're old or they're young. It's great. Some are Lamar Jackson, summer. Tom Brady. Baseball's great when it gets out of its way and lightens up. Too often the sport relies on its oldest, crankiest, most stubborn and rigid people,

most insular personalities to fix its game. It doesn't need that much fixing. What it needs to do is create events. be bigger. Football makes their schedule release feel like Madison Square Garden in the 70s, Ali Frazier. NFL moved its free agency to a place where it was the only thing we talked about. Baseball's got so many gifts.

I don't care about the length of games. I don't go to a baseball game. I've got to be out of here in two hours and 12 minutes. College football games last four and a half hours. But college football, you know, gives me a lot of. of activity. Baseball's got more talent than it's ever had. Unbelievable. Fernando Tatis, what's the comp? Some of these guys are incredible. Guys are huge. Now, Aaron Judge, looks like a defensive end. The sports got diversity in multiple

personalities and all these cultures lighten up. It's a big game. Let it breathe. Let it be big. Let it be fun. Reggie Jackson was my favorite player as a kid. Pete Rose was running over catchers inappropriately. And Reggie, Jackson was screaming at his manager and personality. It's what wins everywhere. It's what wins in my business. Podcasting, football. Who are your favorite NFL players?

Any guards out there? That's quarterbacks. It's personalities. It's big arms. It's big plays. Like baseball, get out of your way. Have some fun. Lighten up.

Whenever anybody tells me, I'm going to retire and go live in a golf course in Palm Springs. What? Hang out with other old people? Give me a college town. I want to do stuff when I'm 80. like lighten up sometimes baseball needs a big bowl of lighten up

I thought last time was great balls in the cornfields and the sunset was gorgeous and players are celebrating and they're hot dogging and showmanship baseball doesn't need to be everybody's always like I gotta fix it I don't have to fix it you just got to tweak it

we're tweaking this show every month NFL's constantly tweet you don't have to fix baseball get rid of the defensive shift I'm a big believer and lower the mound about three inches give hitters a better chance and have events. Make it more like an event.

Now, we know you have 162 games per team. It's never going to feel like football, like the urgency, the scarcity of games. But this idea that you need to massively change baseball, know what you have to do is listen to people outside your sport. Copy the NFL. Copy the MLS. Copy Real Madrid.

NFL does it all the time. If you ever watch the celebrations in the NFL right now, they lightened up like two years ago. Why? Because they copied the NBA. The NFL copies everybody. They're borrowing college football schemes. They're letting their guys, have you noticed the NFL's personalities ramped up last three years?

Why? Because they looked at the NBA and went, God, the NBA gets a lot of free press. God, Instagram and Snapchat and all those NBA guys are everywhere. It's like, you know, it's a fixed baseball. Just got to lighten it up a little. It's got plenty of personalities. Open the door and let them out. Last night was great television.

Just great television. television. And I don't know whose idea it was, but I read it this morning on the internet. Somebody put it well, it felt like a football game. It felt like an event. It felt big. It's okay. There is no way to play the game. That's a bunch of nonsense. The way to play the game is with passion and enthusiasm. And however that looks to the 19 year old from one part of the world and the 28 year old from another part of the world, that's how you play the game. You bring in Kevin Costner, you got a cornfield, you connect it to a moon, movie. Yeah, I do that every year. It's just something. It's fun. It's big. I always think that

baseball should, it, games should look more like the all-star game than a Tuesday night in Colorado. And last night, it had an all-star game feel to it. It's just big and robust and dynamic. And I love it. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, it's Ben Mowler, along with my trusty sidekick, David Gascone, would mean a lot to have join us on our weekly auditory journey. You're asking what in God's name is the fifth hour? I'll tell you, it's a spinoff of the Ben Mather show, a cult hit overnights on FSR.

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Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

What's up, fam, it's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game.

His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy

in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing. That man, hell get to flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers, why he got the ball.

Like, you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. American soccer is about to explode. The World Cup is coming. Ramers sending on to Ernie Stewart for Chip. I'm Tad Ramos. I'm Tom Boe.

On our podcast, inside American soccer, you'll get the real storylines. I'm not worried about Policic. I'm not worried about Balligan. I'm not worried about McKinney. My only concern is what happens in the back. The biggest decisions. If you're going to look at stats and numbers, he has no shot at making this World Cup team.

and the truth about the U.S. national team. It wouldn't be a huge surprise if our team ends up in the quarterfinals or potentially a great run into the semifinals. The World Cup is almost here. Experience it all with us. Listen to Inside American Soccer with Tom Bogart and Tab Ramos on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and IHeart Podcast presents soccer moms.

So I'm Leanne. Yeah. This is my best friend, Janet. Hey. And we have been joined. the hips since high school. Absolutely. Now a redacted amount of years later.

We're still joined at the hip. Just a little bit bigger hips, wider. This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey. With all the snacks and drinks. Sidebar. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? Oh, they had a bogo.

Well, then you got it. Do you want a white collar or something here? Just hit it. Oh, what are y'all doing? Microphones? Are you making a rap album? Oh, I would. I would buy it.

Cut through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake. That sounds delicious. Oh, you're lucky I'm not a drug addict. You're lucky I'm not an alcoholic. You're lucky I'm not a killer. I love this team and I'm really trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on. Oh. Listen to soccer moms on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

We are living in the golden age of quarterbacks. There are so many talented young quarterbacks in this league right now. And what qualifies as a young quarterback? So I'm going to go. I'm going to count. Okay, you were drafted since 2019. So you've been in the league, you know, like last year's draft, year before, and you're a potential starter.

So I'm not going to include Dwayne Haskins in this because he's not going to start. But we saw Mack Jones last night would qualify. Jalen Hertz would qualify. So put him up. there are 12, what I would say, young quarterbacks with a chance to start. Now, I do think four of the 12 I'm going to eliminate because this league is built on stars. They have lower ceilings. Tua, Jalen Hertz, Daniel Jones, Mack Jones.

I think your stars are going to come from the other eight. They're either big time arms, big time athletes, big time size, big time. Nothing against Tua, Jalen Hertz, Daniel Jones, Mac Jones. They feel more system quarterback to me. They need a bunch of stuff around them. So let's go to the other eight. They're going to drive merchandise. They're going to drive ratings.

They're going to drive championships. They're going to be able to overcome bad defenses. So of those remaining eight, and I'm going to list them for you, Kyler, Murray, Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence, Drew Locke, Justin Fields, Tray Lance, and Zach Wilson. How would I rate them? I'm going to guess based on four or five things, their success rate. the environment, the team, their maturity, their talent, their potential for productivity.

So here's how I would rank what I believe are the eight young quarterbacks drafted since 2019 that I view as starters and dynamic something, like really dynamic. I would say number one to me is Justin Herbert. I think he's Andrew Luck with a better arm. The fact that he set all rookie quarterback records with the worst rated offensive line in the NFL is so Andrew Luck, but he was better than Andrew Luck. He was a four-point biology major who played in a very conservative offense, so people doubted him. He went to the Senior Bowl and was miles better than everybody. He goes to the Rose Bowl.

He's miles better than any player on the field. And last year he was sensational. I think he is Andrew Luck with a better arm. I would put number two, Trevor Lawrence. I worry about Urban Myers sticking around. I worry about the ownership. I worry. But it's a winnable division.

He is one of the best prospects I have seen since Andrew Luck, big, smart, big arm, played in big games. He's at Clemson. That's big boy pressure. I think he's a terrific talent. I would put him too. Very closely, I put number three, Kyler Murray, who made a big leap. One of the best high school quarterbacks, Lincoln Riley is like that. That's as good a high school quarterback as I've ever seen.

I worry about as coach. I don't know if he'll have the same GM in a year. They have the worst roster arguably in their division. Their division's brutally tough. But there is some absolute Russell Wilson. There is no question you are looking at. I think he's a little craftier, faster runner. To me, I think we've got a star in our hands.

So Justin Herbert 1, Trevor Lawrence 2, Kyler Marie 3, I would go Trey Lance 4. He just, I said that's when I first saw his tape in college. Okay, that doesn't look like anybody else. He totally pops. I met him before. I like him. Excellent organization that is not quarterback reliant to start.

He got drafted by the perfect team. They just worked for his skill set. Kyle Shanahan has dominating run games. He's not going to have to win shootout. It's a real big boy defense. He's got a veteran ahead of him. I would put him for. And it very, now it gets real close.

I would go Justin Fields five because I think he's so dynamic of an athlete and a thrower. I also think, actually, if they keep Mack Nagy, I mean, Matt Nagy got Tribisky to a winning record in the playoffs. I think he's got a star receiver, a potential star back, a young but potential star tight end, a good enough O line, a very clever head coach, a defense that can keep you in games. I think we have a potential. We don't know, but they're there. Now, five is Justin Field. Six, I would do Joe Burrow.

And I like Joe Burrow. This just tells you how many good quarterbacks there are. But he comes off a nasty, nasty leg injury. Last year, what was my concern? His organization. He got crushed. He got sacked 32 times in 10 games. I think he's fine, but I really worry about the environment in Cincinnati.

Can Zach Taylor coach? Good God, the division's got. You got to play the Ravens twice, the Steelers twice. Now the Brown's roster's loaded. He's in a tough spot. Number seven to me would be Zach Wilson. You know, I just, I don't buy him as the prospect everybody else does. I can be totally wrong.

All of his tape shows you. There's a lot of, you know, a little Johnny Mansell, a little small, good arm, can make plays, didn't play great competition. I don't love the ownership. I love his general manager. We don't know if Solican coach. I'd put him seven. And number eight, Drew Locke.

I mean, I just, he didn't play with enough urgency. He's got a huge arm. He very much reminds me a Jay Cutler. where he's got a cannon for an arm and they got some really nice pieces. But I question maturity. He doesn't play with a lot of urgency. You know, the ball just, there's something there with him. There is no doubt there's something there.

But right now it doesn't work for me. And I don't know if he has the right coach. And he's got to play with Holmes twice, Derek Carr twice, Justin Herbert twice. That's a gauntlet. So if I, if you're telling me, first of all, it shows you how many good quarterbacks there are. These are kids. we have got a lot of talent. One more herd?

The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. I saw that Kauai Leonard re-signed with the Clippers four years, $176 million. Everybody says, oh, what's it mean for Kauai? It means he's rich. I'm fine there. But it's really big for the Clippers, and I'll tell you why,

because they're very much the Mets and the Jets. They're in the shadow of a legendary franchise, Giants, Yankees, Lakers in a town. And those kind of franchises don't get the long 10, 15-year automatic momentum that like the Yankees do with a big signing or, you know, the Giants do, or the Lakers do. You can lose a series. It's no big deal. You can overcome that.

You can't lose momentum when you're a number two in a city. You'll never get it back. The Cubs had it years ago. They had Theo. They had Joe Madden. You got Chris Bryant. You got the kid they just traded the Yankees. Anthony Rizzo.

You know, it wasn't long ago. They just traded the best closure across the street to the White Sox. They've lost momentum. Good luck getting it back. Philadelphia had momentum. Doug Peterson, Carson Wentz. Boom. Good luck getting it back.

I mean, look at New England now, trying to get its momentum back. You can lose games. Finally, the Clippers have a wealthy, smart, passionate owner, an elite front office, an excellent coach, an abduable roster. You can lose a series. You can't lose Kauai. And he was going to sign that stupid one-year deal where he's not going to play.

It's an awful deal for the franchise. This, here we go. He'll play next year. The Clippers are not a franchise that can lose momentum. Either of the Cubs, by the way. And it'll just come back eventually. When the Lakers are down, you're like, yeah, they're going to get it back. When Alabama has a dry spell, you're like,

oh, they'll get it back. Oklahoma football, Duke basketball. We have these brands where they lose it, they lose a coach, he retires, whatever. But they always get it back. Lakers, Yankees, Dodgers, they always get it back. You sure the Cubs are? We sure the Eagles are? We sure the Clippers are.

So this ensures franchise momentum. And that's a big thing for them. Germain O'Neill, new Netflix documentary, can't wait to talk to him. Have you ever been last in line for a hot shower in your house? It's just ridiculous, right? getting in the shower, rudely welcomed by lukewarm or even cold water. My friends at Navian tankless water heaters are putting an end to the hot water problems. Never going to happen now.

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weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. On Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. 17 years ago, Germaine O'Neill found himself in one of the craziest, ugliest nights in NBA and sports history is a six-time All-Star. He is now the executive producer of Netflix untold Malice at the Palace. I'm an NBA fan.

I supported the players on this at the time. This video is hard to put your arms around. Nine players got suspended for 146 games. Germain was in the middle of it. It's our pleasure to bring him on. He is the executive producer of this Netflix doc. and it's getting incredible reviews. When you watch it, Germain,

and I covered you when you, I was a Portland sportscaster, and you were a kid, and you've done quite well for yourself, and I'm really happy for you doing this. When you did the documentary, and they approached you, did you say, oh, I don't want to touch this thing?

Or did you say, I want to explain what happened? So actually, what happened was, you know, I've looked to do this doc about 10 years, maybe seven to 10 years. One of the things that really has bothered me the most is the anniversary, right? People are still talking about this thing 17 years later. And one of the things that I want to do is tell the story, have the conversation. I think the narrative itself was told in a manner that didn't really highlight what actually really happened.

So I was very blessed to have an opportunity to sit down and talk to Netflix about this opportunity. I'd like to thank Netflix, the Way Brothers, and Floyd Russ, who's the director who did a phenomenal job on capturing the vision, which was not alienating anybody, but just telling the story so now we can finally have a conversation. Do you hope that the narrative gets changed when people watch this? You know, Colin, actually, at this point, it's just about having a voice in the situation. I think what people do not know is that we went through criminal and civil force. 10 years. That's right. And we basically couldn't talk because if you said the wrong thing, it affected one of your cases. So by the time we got past the 10 year mark, it was one of those things where you just wanted to just go away and not have to talk about it, but every year,

you know, I'm tagged, messages sent to me, I'm reminded about that night. And that really bothered me. And so have an opportunity to be a part of an incredible series of unto sports. sports, docs meant a lot to me, even though this has been talked about, you know, for many, many years. A lot of people said they went after Ron Artecest, and at the time Ron was a very volatile player. We've since brought him on the show a dozen times. He's a wonderful, just a giving, caring guy. But at the time, America really said, this guy's unhinged, he's bad for sports. And as I watched the video, I'm like, Ron, don't go up in the stands. What are you doing?

But in that moment, take me to your fear, your anxiety as this stadium full of people are throwing stuff. Were you literally scared for your life? So when you think about this, you go into a sporting arena, probably as a fan and for sure as an athlete. You're going there to compete. At the time, it was about sending a message. Detroit had just beat us the year before in the conference finals out of having the best record in the league. And we didn't necessarily know how good we would be. We knew how good we were coming into that season, the brawl season.

And to have the type of game that we had, which I think we won by 18, 19 points on national television, and then end up into a position where you're now fighting for your life. like people were literally trying to hurt us and we had no protection right and so when you were put in a position to have to lead right my position as as a player on that team was being the leader not just in the locker room not just on the basketball court but any time that we're together right and then put in that situation you have to make sure that you protect yourself and others when nobody else is doing that for you when you look at this video and you've seen it a thousand times what do you think I've watched this doc

14 times and Colin to be honest not one time have I not got emotional about it because people don't understand the magnitude

of what this did to a lot of things it put a league that I love so much to this very day as an alumni right under extreme pressure where it was no template

to deal with which then a lot a general public or media to create a narrative that then wasn't about our safety or about that night or even about real information. It's about three players punching fans that all of a sudden our criminals, all of a sudden are thugs, tattoo wearing, hip-hop listening, you know, braid-wearing players. And people roll with that narrative not only for that year, but for years. Right. And so that ate away with me. And part of me stayed in that facility. You know, basketball wasn't as an enjoyable anymore because when you're in a situation and a billion dollar business is affected, your peers are being judged that wasn't even in the building. Right. Your position then is like it's a sense of of sadness that comes with that. Right. And part of my aggression left, right? I was angry. no doubt up until hell this doc came out.

And I know part of my love for playing basketball went away, to be quite honest. But it was a part of the process, Colin. And honestly, everything that I went through in that event and any other part of my career made me a better man today as I live as a father, as a community leader, and as a businessman. By the way, he's the founder of Drive Nation Sports. It's AAU basketball, volleyball programs for boys and girls. He has now been the executive producer. I'm going to watch it this weekend, sneak it in with all the football and stuff,

of Netflix's untold malice at the palace. And I'm just, I'm so happy for you because I remember you when you were a kid from South Carolina and you came out there with some friends and you were a little loss for a year or two. And the Blazers were so darn loaded and deep with big men. There was nowhere to play. and little Germain O'Neill, you became a man in six NBA All-Stars, and you've got charitable organizations and this. You've really done well for yourself.

I'm genuinely happy for you, Jermaine, and I hope this was therapy for you because it's a story that needs to be told, and to congratulations on your successes and this documentary. No, Colin, I thank you. It's been quite the process, been quite the time. You know, I got to say shout out to the Portland Trailblazers, being prepared for a 17-year-old kid out of high school from Columbia, South Carolina that didn't know much about anything, right?

Allowed me to grow at my own pace, all my ups and downs, allowed me to be a second son in a city that really cared about their team. So shout out to them, you know, for all the tools and information they gave to me to have an opportunity to become a six-time all-star and everything else that I've been able to accomplish in life. And, you know, this is a, this is a, a, chapter in my life, honestly, that I am absolutely closing. I've now had my opportunity to have the conversation, not vilify anybody, not alienating anybody, just have a conversation so

people can see exactly what we saw that night. And now whatever conclusion you can come to, that's on you. You can always go to Netflix and check the doc out. And I'm pretty excited about it because it was one of those scenarios, Colin to be honest, where we did not shoot that dot. together. When we put this together, it was to shoot in different locations. We did not have conversations. I call, you know, call the guys and people that are involved and say, look, just talk openly, right? Whatever your opinion and your feelings are for it, talk openly and hopefully everybody out there and join it. And I got to say this, the incredible outreach and love and support for people that one thought that we were thugs or didn't watch basketball

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