The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 08/17/2021 - Best of The Herd

Episode Date: August 17, 2021

Colin reacts to Tim Tebow getting cut by the Jaguars and why it was obvious from the beginning he was never going to make a NFL roster. He tells you which NFL team has the worst QB situation right now as we get closer to the start of the regular season. He points out a NBA team that needs to accept it's time to break up their young stars and start over. Plus, Hall of Famer Edgerrin James joins the show to talk about playing for Tony Dungy and alongside Peyton Manning. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.

Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.

Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the Look Back at it podcast. For 1979, that was a big moment for me.

84 was big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year. It was a wild year.

I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.

This is a place for raw, unfilled conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Thanks for listening to The Best of Heard podcast.

Be sure to catch us live every weekday. From 12 to 3 Eastern, 9 to noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and FS1, find your local station for the herd at Fox Sports Radio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Heard. This is the best of the Heard. with Colin Cowher on Fox Sports Radio. Ah, here we go. It is a Tuesday live in Los Angeles.

It's the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, we're on IHeart Radio. We're on Fox Sports Radio and we're on FS1. Very good show today. Joy Taylor is joining me. In fact, next hour, maybe you. later this hour. Next hour I'm going to do one of my favorite segments I've done in a while.

Which is? Blind resume. Oh. You're not going to believe what I will unveil in one hour. You will not believe it. Blind resume is a little bit of trickery. It's trickery. It's a little bit of a magic trick where you think you're going to see something.

You're sure you're going to see something and you don't see something. I like mine resume because it keeps you honest. Yeah, it takes away. People have biases and all of a sudden it's a smack of reality. Well, or that's, whoa, that's not what I thought I was going to see. So it's speaking of reality, Tim Tebow was cut on the worst roster in the NFL by his best coaching friend ever at a position that's not really where you put your most talented people.

His career is over. It sold some jerseys. It's smart business. He can't play. And let's be honest, a little bit of a distraction, especially in the South. The media is not always accurate. I would admit that. I mean, I classify as media.

The media isn't always accurate. And the media sometimes there's a bias. I would admit that. I'm human. Sometimes I have confirmation bias. Something confirms what I want to be true. Of course, you have that too. Are you willing to admit that today?

The media isn't always accurate, but they were 3 and 0 on Tebow. When the Denver Broncos defense and kicking game was winning games, the media said, dude can't play. We were right. When Tebow went to the Mets minor league system, guys like me said, it's a schick. He can't play. he couldn't and the Mets later admitted it was really a thing to sell tickets and when he went to the Jags we said it'll sell some merch it's very close to where he played college football even on a bad team he is not close to an NFL tight end and we were right too

I mean good God Michael Jordan's the best basketball player probably ever he took two years off came back rusty lost in the second round was a shadow of himself That's Michael Jordan. Tim took eight years off and changed positions. But what Tebow really is and has been for a long time is a great example of a real problem in America, that people no longer want the truth. They just want their version of the truth. You conservatives go to one channel, you liberals go to the other. You don't want the truth.

You want your version of it. A little reminder that 99.5% of people currently on ventilators in hospitals in America are unvaccinated. Sorry if that doesn't connect with your Reddit board info. Belichick cut Tebow. Belichick's close friends with Urban Meyer. Urban Meyer cut Tebow. He didn't want to do that. The Mets really wanted this to work.

They really did. He hit 223 against double A pitching. Listen, this is what we have in America. Everybody wants to point fingers. You have an agenda. You have an agenda. Nobody ever wants to look in the mirror and acknowledge they too have one. It's not an agenda when the other side is right.

COVID is not the flu and Tebow can. can't play professional sports. The agenda is not those ripping Tebow. And let's be honest, the criticism is usually soft-pedaled because he's a nice guy. He's hard not to like, but he got this tryout for one reason. Privilege. Nobody quits a sport eight years later gets an opportunity like nobody ever. It was a little privilege.

And it didn't work. And Urban Meyer's a businessman, too, probably. foremost, and he let him go. But Tebow's fans have always pointed fingers. Always done that. It's time to go to the bathroom. Those mirrors still work. We just don't like to use him anymore.

Tebow's not a pro athlete. He was never a pro athlete. He's a workout fanatic who's slow, bulky. It was never a pro athlete in America. He's a Saturday athlete. He's not a Sunday athlete. you can go into any gold gym in America and find a dozen Tim Tebow's. They're probably just not as nice as Tim.

It's over. It should be. And let's talk about Trevor Lawrence from this point forward. That's the future of the Jags. So we all knew. We talked a lot about when Tom Brady and Bill Belichick separated. Who won the divorce? There's no reason to rub it in. I think we know who won the divorce.

But do you think if you ask them privately? I saw there's a new book out talking about the Patriots dynasty. They're doing a lot of talking about the old days. Brady, it seems, is now winning in the current days. One's looking through the windshield. One keeps glancing back through the rearview mirror. That's what losers often do in a divorce. Is there a franchise right now in the NFL that has a worst quarterback?

situation than New England. Houston, Philadelphia, maybe Denver. Not Washington, Ryan Fitzpatrick's better than two alternatives right now. Frankly, he is. You have Cam, a former playmaker who's beat up physically in a shell of his former self. And then you have a kid with a low ceiling who's not really ready to play. We know that, but he may instead, Mac Jones. Let's be honest now, Bill Belichick, before Brady and after Brady is now 62 and 71 with a single playoff win. And New England's quarterback situation doesn't even make sense. Cam's a playmaker. Mac Jones is non-athletic.

At least in Cleveland, Baker Mayfield's the starter. In case Keenham is sort of a poor man's version of Baker Mayfield. That makes sense. They don't have to change the offense when he comes in. In Buffalo, Josh Allen's obviously the starter, but Mitch Trubisky is also very athletic. That makes sense. New England's quarterback situation doesn't even make sense. Old beaten up guy who's erratic, not very accurate, and a playmaker, and a guy who's the opposite.

Yeah. It's harder than they thought. And now in the division, Buffalo has a significantly better quarterback situation and a roster. Miami has a steadier quarterback situation currently and a better roster. and the Jets have an outstanding GM, who is in the last two drafts proven he's better at drafting the college players than Belichick is. Boy, did Tom Brady pick the perfect time to exit. He looked maybe at Buffalo's emergence. He knew how good Brian Flores would do down in Miami.

He watched the previous two or three or five drafts with New England, tired of the arrogance of the system. here's Cam Newton being asked if Belichick has told him he is the starter I mean y'all sit up here asking silly questions to me and I'm looking at y'all with the same thing so I don't know what y'all want me to say you're like no you know that you know he hasn't said that so for you to just ask the question you know it is what it is so every single day I'm coming out here with the anticipation to just get better and that's that's the only thing that I could do so I can control that I do know those things like that I can't worry about because each and every day I don't necessarily care about who's starting.

I mostly care about, you know, making sure that I put the best product out there for me. You know, as far as week one, we got so much to worry about prior to week one. And that's what my focus is right now. I have no idea who's starting for New England. And that in itself is a huge problem. I'm not sure New England right now knows who's starting for New England. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays and New England. New Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app.

Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying.

Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversation. with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.

One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim?

Well, you can find out on the Look Back at It podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s.

To be clear, 84 was big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so you all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.

Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years. from black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast,

Learn the Hardway with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games. And in recognition of mental health awareness month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking, Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing,

we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing and we're still chasing it and we don't know when we've done enough because people scoreboard watch life becomes about wins and losses Steve Burns, Dustin Ross, because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth or are you a good person because you're afraid? Because that's two different intentions, bro. Absolutely.

And that's two different levels of trust. I want you to just really be a good person. Join me, Keer Gaines, is we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast, Learn the Hardway. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Learn the Hardway and listen now. So the Philadelphia 76ers signed Joe L.M.B., the often injured but wildly talented center to a new contract and extension that gives him $196 million. And they're now locked in for about five years. This comes obviously with a major risk. He was drafted in 2014.

he has played in less than 50% of the games, 48%. And he was hurt in the playoffs last year. Philadelphia made the choice between Simmons and Embed, and they chose the employee who is there, the highly compensated employee, who is there less than half the time. But in situations like this, we should all learn from it, right? If you were a GM in this sport, you'd look around and go,

what's the trend? Here's the trend. It is a cautionary tale of when you have two stars and they don't get along. And you know it before everybody else does because you hear about it on the plane. You hear about it from an assistant coach. You kind of see it in the locker room or at practice. Quietly get on the phone, call other teams and move them. Because Philadelphia now is not going to get much for Ben Simmons,

his indifference is frightening. He just doesn't appear to want to get better at his weaknesses, and Embed is always hurt. Everybody thought they could fix this thing. And it surfaced two years ago. Brian Calangelo was sure he could fix it. Nelton Brand was sure he could fix it. And Sam Hinky was sure he could fix it.

And of course they couldn't. Because NBA history tells you, even recent history, when two stars have an issue and don't get along, It never works. Durant and Westbrook, we can fix it. Pippin and Barclay in Houston. Kobe and Shaq. LeBron and Kyrie.

Chris Paul and Blake Griffin. Chris Paul and James Hardin. I could give you, I wrote six, seven down this morning. I could give you another eight. Find me the example of two stars that don't get along. This isn't like real life. where you go to therapy or a marriage counselor and you can get through things. There's intensity in sports, right?

You get like eight years to make your money, eight years to hit it. You don't have 30 years to work on something. You got agents chirping in their ears. You got family members. You got coaches. You got shoe companies. The bottom line is when you see it going south and teams always see it before guys like me see it, before the media sees it.

You see it at practice. You hear it in the locker room. You always got a veteran or two in the locker room that chirps to a coach. It's been great. You hear it on the plane. You see it on the plane. I mean, in Beaden Simmons last year's All-Star game, wouldn't share a private jet for two and a half hours to fly to the game.

I mean, those guys fly big jets. You could sit in one side, one in the back, one of the front. No, I wouldn't do it. So this is another example. You know, I can sit here and criticize Philadelphia, but Daryl Morey took it over. Everybody tried to make it worse. three different GMs.

It didn't work. It never does. The NBA has got a lot of things I love about it. I talk about it all the time. But it is an ego league. Players now make millions in social media, eight figures in shoe deals, eight, nine figures in basketball.

They have power. It's always been a labor first league over a coaches or a GM's league. And when the stars don't get along, there's no real motivation to fix it. I'll just go elsewhere and make my money and be happier. and be the guy on the team. So cautionary tale, the Sixers made their choice, and it comes with major risk. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific.

Hey, what's up, everybody? It's me, three-time Pro Bowl of LaVarrington, and I couldn't be more excited to announce a new podcast called Up on Game. What is Up on Game, you ask? Along with my fellow Pro Bowler, T.J. Hushman Zada and Super Bowl champion. Yep, that's right. Plexico Burris. You can only name a show with that type of talent on it. Up On Game.

We're going to be sharing our real life experiences loaded with teachable moments. Listen to Up On Game with me, LaVar Arrington, T.J. Hushmanzada, and Plexico Burris on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast from. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all,

embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me.

Cliver Taylor the fourth. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment. and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger.

So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tapped Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim?

Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we picket here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because,

a crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.

Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your Podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist,

Kear Games. And in recognition of mental health awareness month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking. Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing,

we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing. And we're still chasing it. And we don't know when we've done enough. Because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross, because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth?

Are you a good person because you're afraid? Because that's two different intentions, bro. Absolutely. And that's two different levels of trust. I want you to just really be a good person. Join me, Kear Gaines, as we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose

on my new podcast, learn the hard way. Open your free, our heart radio app, Search learn the hard way and listen now. Tim Tebow was cut, first cut. He was going to battle for the fourth string tight end. He was out of the sport for eight years, tried to come back, kind of a silly reach. Urban Meyer quickly moved off it and Urban Meyer loves the guy. Let's be honest about the Tebow story.

It is mostly a southern story now. Initially, it was a national story. The baseball story was, you know, mostly people in the South defending him. it is now mostly an SEC story. That's the only group of people who are still really defending him. You know, today they want to talk about other stuff. Tim Tebow got cut, period. End of story.

It's not about any other quarterback or any other team. That's the story today, whether you want to acknowledge it or not. But I think part of why the South has always struggled with Tebow is because the SEC defines the South's football passion. They love the SEC, and it's the best football conference, and they love their Saturdays more than they love their Sundays. But Tim Tebow is another example, and there's lots of them, of a great Saturday player who is never close to being a Sunday player. Let's take the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

And Tebow is the biggest star in the SEC. There is no second place. There is literally no second place. If you say Johnny Mansell, you're kidding yourself. He's the biggest star in the SEC times 10. No other conference has a player that defines culturally and playing more than it. conference than Tebow in the South. He's a great college player.

Great, great, great. All great. Leader, player, great, great, great. But Saturdays aren't Sundays. And I'll give you an example. Let's look at the best team in football, easily the best roster, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Here's where they're 10 big players, their really go-to guys went to college. Their quarterback went to Michigan from the Big Ten. Their best running backs a pack-12 guy. Ronald Jones, easily their best back. Their best receiver. You can Mike Evans went to the SEC, but he originally signed with Texas A&M when they were in the

Big 12. Chris Godwin, Big 10, Gronk Pack 12, Tristan Wirth's Big 10, Ali Marpet, Liberty League. It's a Division 3, Hobart. Devin White's, their one great player, SEC, LSU, Levante, David, Big Ten, Big 12, Shaq Barrett, Mountain West. That's the most talented football team in the NFL. one true SEC guy, Devin White, because Mike Evans signed with A&M when they were a big 12 team. They transitioned, so did he to the SEC. Like if college football was the NFL, then why of the last 10 quarterbacks who have played in the Super Bowl, none have been from the SEC?

The 14 quarterbacks who made the playoffs last year, none were from the SEC. That's Saturday football. The last five MVP's of the NFL quarterbacked at Cal, Louisville, Texas Tech, Michigan, and Boston College. The three greatest wide receivers I've ever seen went to Mississippi Valley State, Tennessee, Chattanooga, and Marshall. Okay? Walter Payton's the best running back I've ever seen. I think he went to Jackson State. Saturday is not Sunday.

And Tebow is the greatest SEC player ever. He's the most important. He's the most disgust. He sold the most merchandise. He is the most everything. And he's a really good guy. But being a star on Saturday doesn't mean much. Half of Nick Saban's guys that go to the NFL,

underachieve, get cut, can't play, or overpaid. And they're easily the most dominant college football program I've ever seen for a decade. So don't take it personally. Big on Saturday does not mean great on Sunday. Look around this league. A majority of the best tight end went to Cincinnati. The best quarterbacks went to Cal, Wisconsin, backed up at Michigan, Texas Tech, Wyoming, Oregon.

Saturday matters too. Just not for the Sunday leap. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week, within the IHeart Radio app. Search Her to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. I'm not here to defend Andy Dalton. I've never been a big Andy Dalton.

When he was called the Red Rifle, I nicknamed him the beige water pistol. I'm like, he's not a nickname guy. Give me a break. You know, I'm not even saying goat. Red rifle was a little much for a checkdown guy a lot of the times. But Andy's got talent. I'll give you an example. So Andy last year played nine games for the Cowboys.

So let's just go look at his last nine games. for the record, no preseason. You saw how Brady struggled with no preseason. No preseason. He goes to a new team, new playbook, new coach, new everything, goes to Dallas. And by the way, Dak gets hurt, so he just gets injected into the season. So here's his last nine starts in the NFL, Andy Dalton, who you guys are all throwing shade at. He completes 65% of his throws, 14 touchdown, 8 picks, and a pass rating at 87.

So let's play the blind resume. game. Let's go to the last nine starts of this other quarterback on the right, who's got almost identical statistics, a slightly higher pass rate. Who would that quarterback be in his

last nine starts? Oh, Matt Ryan, who had the same coach, the same offensive line, the same system, the same playbook. Same quarterback. Let's do it again. Look at Andy Dalton's numbers.

Let's see. Last nine games, let's throw, boy, that person has almost a little higher passer rating. Who would that quarterback be? Let's see who that quarterback is. Oh, it's Derek Carr. Isn't that funny? Derek Carr also had the same coach, the same offensive line, the same tight end, the same receivers, the same backs. Andy Dalton didn't.

In fact, I'm going to make the game even a little more interesting. Andy had a concussion and COVID last year and no preseason. So is it reasonable to say, let's take away his first couple games. He didn't have a concussion, COVID. Let's just go his last seven games. Because it's fair to say it took him a while to kind of get his feet under him. You know, he had a concussion and COVID, a new coach. And by the way, not necessarily a great coach, whatever.

Last seven games, Andy is four and three, 13 T, T, T, he's five picks, complete six. 66% of his throw. His pass-for rating is 95. So whose numbers are pretty darn comparable? Baker Mayfield, who had the best offensive line and the NFL coach of the year in Kevin Stavansky. Baker's got fewer touchdown passes, a lower completion percentage, but a higher passer rating. Pretty close. Let's play the game one more time. Just last seven games.

Last seven games. So this quarterback throws for less. yards per game than Andy Dalton did. Completion percentage is the same. Passer rating mostly the same. TD interception very close. Who would that be? Oh, Russell Wilson.

You guys got to slow down a little on the beige water pistol. I'm not the biggest Danny Dalton fan. But if you look at the nonsense, that kid was thrown into last year. Concussion, COVID. Now, is Justin Fields

athletically better? Of course. Is Justin Fields the future? Of course. But first of all, playing quarterback, I can't think of anything in sports. I mean, the only thing that even compares is hitting a baseball. What's this hard? And so, you know, I think sometimes we looked at Andy Dalton last year and we just roll our eyes.

Considering what he went through? I mean, look how bad Cam was and he got COVID. And Cam didn't have a concussion. And Cam had Belichick. And Cam's a former MVP. So Andy Dalton, if you look at his career, has always been about as good as what he's surrounded with. So if David Montgomery is healthy and Alan Robinson is healthy and Cole Comette keeps getting good and the offensive line is at least stable, starting Andy Dalton for a couple of games is okay. If Justin Field starts game one, that's fine.

It's not worth screaming and yelling over, but this happens all the time. This quarterback's great. This guy's a stiff. Andy Dalton, when he has time to throw last year in Dallas, when he had time to throw at the end of the year, after the concussion after COVID, wasn't terrible. Their defense was. He wasn't he wasn't terrible. He's not as good a dad, but he wasn't terrible.

Matt Nagy's talking about, you know, Dalton starting week one and Justin Fields and Nick Foles his three talked about it yesterday. It was pretty clear that this was not a traditional opening quarterback competition. Andy was the start that Justin was going to be his backup. Because that's still the case where Justin worked his way into his spot where he could realistically be your week one starter. Yeah, it is the case. And I think for us to focus on the day by day and just kind of everything that goes into it,

the only thing that those guys care about right now is just being great at that position. And I think if you ask all three of them, that's what they're trying to do. And then I'll always go back to just making sure that when we evaluate those guys at that position, we're evaluating the entire package. So, you know, I think we forget sometimes. And the quarterback position now is different than it was 20 years ago. But we've gotten really, really impatient. And I think some of that is fair because kids are just developed much more today than they were 20 years ago.

But, you know, you go back to the Manning brothers, Peyton and Eli. You know, year four, it was choppy. Peyton threw a lot of picks in year four. And Eli really didn't click until year four. Now, it is a different time. We expect our quarterbacks to do more. But just to make the NFL, just to make the league at quarterback. Andy Dalton's made the playoffs.

Andy Dalton last year in his last seven starts was not terrible. It's not the end of the world. If the Bears coaches say, we're going to give Andy the start against the Rams, we're not saying he's better. he's just better today against the Rams. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the IHeart Radio app. Edgerman James is now Hall of Fame football player.

Years ago, I was talking to Bill Pollian, Hall of Fame executive. And I said, who is the best football player that you ever drafted? And he did not say Peyton Manning. he said, Edgier and James is the most talented football player I think I've ever seen. And I'm like, I know he's great. And he's like, Edgier and James could have not only started,

but starred in multiple positions in the NFL. And many of you remember Edgerton's speech a couple of weeks ago at the Hall of Fame. I thought he had the most memorable line. And here it is. My career started with gold teeth and ended with this gold jacket. Good night. And Edgern James, the Hall of Famer, certainly deserving an all-time greats joining us live now.

You know, Edgern, it's funny, you got such an incredible response. Of all the Hall of Famers, everybody's like, I love Edgern James. And, you know, it's funny, Edron, because you were so authentic and so raw and so real about it. Are you a little surprised by how people just loved your presentation there? I'm not really surprised. I think more people love real, authentic, and so many people have been just kind of BS for so long that when something real comes across, they feel it.

You feel something that's real. Yeah. When you look around the NFL today, to a large degree, we don't give running backs the credit. When I was a kid growing up, 70s, 80s, 90s, if your running back was your best player, you were a Super Bowl contender. But for some reason now, we've kind of minimized or marginalized running backs. And how does that land for you when you watch it's such a quarterback league?

Now it's a wide receiver league. Now tight ends get loved. Do you think the NFL, how do you view how they view running backs today? I don't think the running backs get the credit they're supposed to because the running back, you know, it actually deals with every position on the field. You know, you have to be the toughest, it's the toughest position that actually play. And that goes with saying that it's usually the shortest careers because it's so tough to be a running back. You have to, you have to understand every phase of the game, you know, and you have to deal with every player and every position on the football field.

So a lot of times people really don't, they don't really value it because it's turned into a passing league. But if you have a good, solid running back, I know the quarterbacks appreciate it. And the ones that understand the value of the running back, you know, they appreciate them also. You could have been a wide receiver in the NFL when you were a kid. Why did you choose running back? No, running back, it was natural for me, and you get a chance to put the ball in your hands more.

And it's one of those things where you just got to be tough. As a running back, you have to be tough. As a receiver, you may get three, four looks, five looks. You know, as a running back, you're involved in every aspect of the game. and I like to be involved. And that was the position that it fit my style, my whole demeanor. You were a guy that had to block for Peyton Manning. You did that well.

You were a great past catcher. You had tremendous hands. Did Peyton make it clear to you during your career? Did he let you know how valuable you were to him? Yeah, me and Payne, we had a great relationship, man. We still have a great relationship. And that relationship just built because, you know, it built on trust. you know, and once you start learning the game,

and he knows that I always had his back. I always had his back no matter what, so I had to make sure that I understood the past protection, the blocking scheme. Because I'm the last line of defense to make things go. And over the years, you know, we would also get together and go over these things to make sure that, you know,

if it's something that's coming on, there's something that's going on that everybody else may not be aware of. You know, I'm able to stay back there and help. If a lineman is going against a certain defender, I'm able to, you know, keep my eye on those things. And with that being said, you know, it makes the quarterback a lot more comfortable. When you were playing in the league, I've had, I ask players this all the time that a team drafts seven or eight new guys and then they bring in, you know, 10 undrafted free agents.

How long did it take you when you were with the Colts and dominating and the Cardinals that you would see the new draft picks and you'd watch them at practice, Edgerman? And how long did it take you to know that dude can play or? that dude can't play. Does it take very long? No, I instantly see it. You know, a lot of times, the thing that's confusing is, is when you come into the league, they have so much, so much going on, and they have the talent, but they don't have the commitment. So you kind of judge them based on, okay, like, I think he has potential,

but I think he's got potential to mess it up also. You know, if he works, you know, if he works hard, he could be around a long time. You know, but if he gets caught up in the lifestyle, he gets caught up in everything else that has nothing to do with football, his career is going to be short. So I think you start judging it like that because you see, you see players and you put them in categories. You know, as far as talent, you see some guys that are very talented,

but you say, oh, they just don't work hard enough. And you say, that's not going to last, you know. Then you see some guys that they may not have as much talent, but they say, oh, they're going to be around or they're going to end up being a coach or something involved in this league. Speaking of coaches, you went from Mora to Tony Dungey. There's a bunch of new coaches in the NFL. There's seven new ones.

Every year, Edger, and there's seven or eight new coaches. How long did it take you to realize that Dungey was the right guy? Like a player, could you tell instantly, or did it take a while? Instantly. Instantly, you knew. But, you know, I'm coming from the University of Miami and Warren Sat, one of my close friends. So soon as they made some of the difference. with sign, you get a call from Saps and hey, you're going to love Dungeon.

And that's all you, that's all you need, especially if Sapp gets behind something, you know it's real. So that was one of the things that it held true, you know, because as soon as we got together, Dunjie was, it's like you're playing for somebody that, and you knew he played the game, but he understood everything that goes on outside the game also. And I think that's where a lot of coaches struggle. You know, they keep everything just strictly football and there's more to football in players' lives.

And Coach Dungey always made it clear that he understood that people had lives to live and had families. You know, you said a lot of guys get trapped by the lifestyle. Why didn't you? Because, you know, it comes down to discipline. I think discipline, and I came in with a purpose. You know, I understood my purpose. I didn't come to just be in the NFL.

I came with a true purpose. And as far as getting caught up in a lifestyle, if you don't get caught up at the University of Miami down here, most likely you're not going to get caught up. Yeah, that's a lot more to do in Miami than Indianapolis. By the way, I can't figure this out. College football was better when the Miami hurricanes were great. Explain to me why they can't get it right.

What's going on? I think the problem is everybody's coming. come down here and they're taking our players. That's the hardest part. You know, they're, they're doing a hell of a job recruiting our players, and that's where it starts from. Because you look at youth football, we have the best youth football,

if not one of the best youth football programs in the state, I mean, in the country. And that's where it starts from the youth football players, and then it transitions to high school football players. And we just haven't been able to keep them home, you know, because Alabama has come down here, gotten out players, Georgia has come, gotten out players, Clemson has come, gotten out players. You look at all the top teams.

They made the point of emphasis to come to South Florida. And now that we're starting to keep some of the homegrown talent, you're going to see the same thing that happened on the youth football and the high school football start happening in college. And I think we're heading in the right direction now. Final question. When you were playing in some of the greatest NFL games ever, Brady against Peyton Manning.

Did you understand in the moment, Edgerman, that these are all-time games, that you may have been watching two of the three, two of the four most talented quarterbacks of all time. Did you know in the moment? God, this is historic. These guys, there may not ever be better than these two. No, I think in the moment, you're in the moment.

You're living in the moment. You're enjoying the game. You're playing the game. You're trying to win. But when you look back on it, And now you appreciate being part of that. You know, you get a chance to watch everybody grow, watch everybody turn into what everybody's seeing they become now.

You know, you use a part of that process, but I don't think nobody in the midst of it realized it. You know, because when we started, you know, we was doing the two-minute offense first and next day, you know, the Patriots doing the two-minute offense full game and everybody just going back and forth competing. Yeah. Edgerman, Hall of Famer, great.

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