The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 08/30/2021 - HOUR 2 - Right & Wrong, Seahawks
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College football weekend.
Fox has Wisconsin, Penn State.
You just normally do not get a massive conference game first week of the college football season.
It's just not the way it works.
You're not going to get Georgia, Florida.
You're not going to get usually, you know, you're not going to get usually, you know,
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I'm not going to be a great team.
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This transfer portal has helped the Bruins a lot.
They got like seven new starters from around the country.
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Well, do a better job to your guys.
They won't want to leave.
That's one way to approach it.
It's a great first week of college football.
So excited.
I may bet.
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Where Colin was right.
Well, well, well, the dolphins.
maybe aren't sold on Tua.
How do I know that?
I have eyes.
Multiple reports.
The Miami Dolphins have offered multiple first and second round picks
to upgrade it quarterback to Dishon Watson.
It's nothing against Tua,
but he averaged 181 yards passing last year.
And he's not a scrambler.
Okay?
So listen, the dolphins apparently,
and there were several teams interested,
but the Dolphins reportedly gave a lot more potentially in a deal,
which tells you they feel they're close.
They're not worried about first and second round picks.
They like their roster.
They just don't think they can win big with the quarterback they have.
Where Colin was wrong.
Mack Jones may start over Cam Newton.
That shocks me.
Hey, listen, he's completed 69% of his throws and he's played a lot.
I mean, they put him there a lot.
He's gotten a lot of snaps.
Now, Cam's been the starter, but Mac,
I didn't think this was going to be that close.
In fact, of all the young quarterbacks,
I didn't think Mack Jones would play much this year.
I don't think you can mess around in this division.
And I don't think Cam was nearly as bad as everybody said last year.
After he got back from COVID, he was crappy for a couple of weeks post-COVID.
He ended up with 12 rushing touchdowns, and they were a decent team.
So this is a surprise to me.
I did not think Mack Jones had a chance to start week one.
Where Colin was right?
Denver's Drew Locke could not beat out Bridge quarterback Teddy
Bridgewater. I said this. Drew Locke to me is a slightly less talented version of Jay Cutler. I see the
arm. I see the talent, but he's casual, a little too cool for my taste. And I just think what
Vic Fangio said is I like our roster. I trust Teddy Bridgewater more than I trust Drew Locke. It's not
a talent thing because Drew's got a big arm, like a big top 10 arm in the league. But what have I said
about quarterback. It's a grown-up position.
And Vic Fangio's got a real roster in Denver.
This roster, it's got players.
Raiders, don't kid yourself, have the fourth best roster easily in this division.
And he's telling you, I'm not giving the keys to Drew Locke.
And I like Drew Locke after nine starts.
Joy was here.
I said, there is something here.
And then the start of the next year, eyes out after about six starts.
Where Colin was wrong.
Trey Lans may start week one over Jimmy Garrow.
I said this a couple weeks ago, the three things that really crush a quarterback's confidence.
Injuries, your coach loses faith, and they draft your replacement.
Jimmy Garoppolo checks all three boxes.
I still think he starts, but he has not played with the confidence that you'd think a guy that was in a Super Bowl two years ago would play in.
And frankly, Trey Lance looked pretty good.
Now, Trey, it's pretty much he's just throwing fastballs.
his tempo, he can throw an occasional breaking pitch,
but size, mobility, arm, he's got arm angles.
There's no question.
Trey Lance has been better sooner than I thought.
Where Colin was right.
Urban Meyer did exactly what we predicted with Gardner Minshu.
He elevated him.
Got a quarterback battle.
Quarterback battle here with Trevor Lloyd.
Everybody's like, ooh, raises his value a little.
And then right before the season, Trevor, it's your job.
we trade Gardner Minchew and get a pick as we're rebuilding the bad franchise.
This to me, and a lot of people didn't like it, but this to me was the plan.
You come in, you create a culture.
You don't give Trevor Lawrence the job.
You know he's the startup, but you don't give anybody the job here.
You're a college coach.
You're going to struggle with some of these pro players not buying into your stuff.
So Urban came in.
He was not given a college star the start.
I'm a college coach.
I'm not giving the college kid a star.
And then you can tell after a couple exhibition games, you're like, yeah, Trevor's the starter.
They elevate Minchew's value and they move him to Philadelphia.
I thought that was exactly what we thought we predicted on the air last week.
Where Colin was right?
Yankees recently, a 13 game winning streak.
Dodgers of 1, 16 of 20.
But it's they're both hot, right?
But it's what they did that we've been preaching for several years.
Even though they were good, they got hyper-aggressive.
at the free agent deadline.
Okay, this is what is winning in sports.
The Dodgers went out and got Max Scher and Trey Turner.
Great players.
The Yankees went out with the Cubs, got Anthony Rizzo, then they got Joey Gallo.
It's not like these were bad teams, but aggressiveness is being rewarded.
And right now, my World Series picks, the Dodgers and the Yankees look like they're in their best form of the season.
Where Colin was wrong.
can't believe the Cowboys have not made a move for a backup quarterback, and I thought it was going to be
Gardner Minshu. I don't get it. This is a quarterback DAC-driven offense. He still has a shoulder
issue. I mean, they're not even letting him play on these games. Gardner Minchue was on the market.
You only had to give up like a six-round pick. Gardner Minchew still has two years left on a contract.
He'd be cheap. And I don't like the Cowboys' backup quarterback situation.
At all. I am surprised Dallas is staying pat with what they have.
Where Colin was right?
We predicted Jake Paul would beat Tyron Woodley. He did last night in Ohio.
Listen, he's interesting. He's not a great prize fighter. He's not fighting in those fights.
Now he's taken on retired UFC guys and some celebrities. But on a six or seven fight card
in a pay-per-view sport, there's absolutely room.
Hell, if Tebow wanted to fight and he trained for six months, hey, it's pay-per-view.
It's okay.
Not every fight on a fight card always has to be Ollie and Frazier, Leonard and Hearns.
It's okay.
And I think he's invested.
I think he's a big, strong kid.
I think he showed in that fourth round, he can take a punch.
Because Tyron Woodley is a man.
That guy's big, and I think it's great for boxing.
That's a shot.
And by the way, Jake Paul is now 4-0, and he is moving people to pay-per-view by.
It's good for him.
Where Colin was right?
Been saying this for years.
There's only one college football power in the 80s and 90s that will never return, and it's Nebraska.
First of all, they don't fit in the Big Ten.
I thought they made a mistake going to the Big Ten, because now they can't get the Texas
high school recruits they could get in the Big 12.
I also think quarterbacks, by and large, don't want to play in cold weather.
That's why the Big 10, Michigan can't even get the quarterback right.
And I think the bottom line with Nebraska football is it's hard to win in small cold towns.
Nebraska is becoming a place where good coaches go to end their careers.
It's nothing against it.
I think almost every power in the 80s and 90s if they got the right coach,
could end up being really relevant again, and I've never bought into it with Nebraska.
Life changes. Things have changed. And I think kids have more options. They'd rather stay close to home.
And if you look at the business model of Nebraska football in the 70s and 80s and 90s with Tom Osborne,
where they had this powerful walk-on program, those days are over. You can't compete at that level.
And they are what we thought they were. All right. Good stuff.
right, calling or wrong. Mac Jones thing surprises me.
All these guys look good.
You know, it's funny watching the preseason, New England actually played starters a lot.
And nobody else did.
So I find it very difficult to figure out exactly what New England is.
I mean, it's Mac Jones look good, Cam look good.
I mean, you had starting receivers, starting offensive linemen, because I think New England
is trying to decipher what they are.
By the way, Bruce Ariens, older coach, played some starters.
So a couple of the older coaches, Mike Tomlin, older coach, he played some starters.
Generationally, Tomlin, Ariens Belichick.
Andy Reid, too.
Andy Reid, they want you to go out and hit.
Kansas City is trying to kind of decipher their offensive line, rebuild it in one-off season.
The young coaches, the McVeigh group, they don't even, I mean, they don't even take guys to the city.
They just keep them on the bus.
So it's different.
So with New England, I don't know.
I think the decision's going to be made in meeting rooms because I watched them,
both. And they both, I think you can win 10, I said this last week, you can win 10 games with Cam.
I don't have a doubt in my mind. But I think you can probably win 10 games with Mac.
I really do. So it's going to be, I do think Cam Newton did himself no favors with that second
COVID issue, did himself no favors. There's no coach in the league that has less tolerance for
nonsense. There's no team in the league that's more detailed. I saw that story and I thought,
oh, you did yourself no favors. That, some coach.
You can get away with that.
Belichick's not one of them.
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played with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers forever.
Now he's a Raider defensive tackle.
Played his first football in a long time this past weekend.
joins us live.
So the term they always use, Gerald, is getting their feet back under them.
That's what you hear.
Akeem Talibu always uses that.
So you played real minutes.
You played.
I did.
Okay.
So just tell me.
How did you feel?
I feel great.
You know, first off, thanks for having me.
You know, I haven't talked to my distant cousins in a long time.
Well, we're not so distant now because I'm in Vegas.
but I haven't talked to my family in a long time.
Joy, how you doing?
Colin, how you doing?
Great.
Thanks for having me.
Yeah, but I felt great, man.
You know, yesterday was my first real reps,
and I've been taking reps here and there and practice,
and that started this week.
The first two weeks I've been there,
I haven't taken any reps in practice.
I just been working out on the side doing individuals,
and this week I got a few reps.
So yesterday was my real first rep.
So everything was tested, my conditioning, my strength,
my legs, endurance, my feet, my technique, everything was tested yesterday.
And overall, I felt great, man.
I didn't realize until I read some yesterday morning that I haven't played in a football game
in 20 months, 20 months.
And as a professional athlete, especially football, you could stop doing it for four days
and losing.
So 20 months, man, to come out and do what I was able to do, you know, as far as like
consistently, you know, getting off the ball, getting in the back field.
It felt great.
So it's interesting.
You've been on the Bucks, the Panthers.
John Gruden, all we see is TV.
We don't see the meetings.
We don't see the film study.
We don't see practice.
What is Gruden like as a personality and as a coach?
Groo is a phenomenal coach, man.
I love him.
You know, and what you see on TV, that's not a character.
You know, this guy, he's just got all the personality in the world.
leave that's why he was on TV for so long because what you've seen on TV is who he really is.
And I believe that's what got him hired. But not only that, his work at the, he doesn't do
anything on accident. Everything is strategic with all the moves he makes from the practice to the
practice schedule, to the guys he wants on his team, to the guys who play weekend and week out.
And, you know, I just, I love being around him. He's a real player's coach. You hear that term
all the time with players coach. Now, he's a real player's coach. He cares about his player.
Most importantly to me, he takes care of his bets.
I do appreciate that.
Well, you know, he's always been a fan of veteran players.
Gerald McCoy, Raider defensive tackle.
By the way, they could use him.
Max Krosby was their only real pass rusher last year,
and this is Division with a lot.
I think I lost you.
Can you hear me now?
Can you hear me now?
No, I think we lost him for a second.
We'll try to get him back.
You're going to redial, they say.
They need him, by the way, because the Raiders defense allowed 29,
points a game and had only 66 sacks. That is the fewest since John Gruden landed. It's funny.
I just, long story, but yesterday I flew back from Chicago to Los Angeles next to a long-time NFL
executive. And they were talking about the bumps and Mark Davis and 10-year contract. And that
is kind of, that never happened in the NFL. And it's not gone as perfectly planned. They've had
some misses in the drafts. The defense has been a huge liability.
Derek Carr and Gruden appear to get along very well,
but it feels like he's almost a life preserver at times for a little bit of a sinking ship.
Defensively, the division's gotten better.
Kansas City now has a chance to be in their third straight Super Bowl.
Chargers with Justin Herbert are legitimate.
Denver's roster is great.
They just can't get the quarterback quite right.
So here's the Raiders with Derek Carr, John Gruden,
and they're rebuilding still as we go into what, year three and year four with John Gruden.
So that is where they're currently at.
Do we have Gerald?
Not yet.
Let's go to Joy Taylor.
No, no, no, no.
Turn on the news.
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Well, Minchoo Mania is heading to Philadelphia after naming Trevor Lawrence the starter.
The Jags traded Gardner Minshue to the Eagles for a 2022 conditional six-round pick.
So he joins a quarterback room with Jalen Hertz and Joe Flacco, but he is not expected to bump Hertz out of the starting spot.
I would actually assume
Philadelphia does not like when I talk about their
quarterback situation, but I would assume that
Gardner Minshue would also jump Joe Flacco.
Like if he's not going to be the starter in Jalen Hertz,
which to me is understandable because I think you should find out what you have in
Jalen Hertz. Gardner is actually a legitimate
quarterback. And he plays a little like Jalen
Hertz. They're both mobile, a little undersized.
I always think you should have a symmetry between your starter and your
backup. Yes. And I, and I, and I,
To me, Gardner Minshu and Dak, both athletic, both move, you know, neither a huge arm.
Like I thought Gardner for the Cowboys worked, but I think Gardner Minshu for the Philadelphia Eagles worked.
I do.
I do think that.
I would, if I was Dallas, would have brought in a more legitimate backup.
Yeah.
But they seem to be comfortable with their backup situation.
But we look at Gardner's numbers a lot because he is a very interesting quarterback.
Yeah.
He's sort of a, to me, he's a low-end star.
or very high-end backup.
Yeah, high-end backup.
But his numbers are kind of interesting.
Obviously, we're not a good team, Jacksonville Jaguars.
But if you look at Jalen Hertz last year and Carson Wentz and compare him to Gardner Minshu,
Gardner actually puts up bigger numbers.
Carson had 16 touchdowns to 15 interceptions.
Gardner had 15 touchdowns to five interceptions.
His passing rating Gardner was higher, 97 to 72 and 77 respectively.
I've said this. He is, yeah, I mean, I think he's a less talented Baker Mayfield.
Baker's got a better arm, but they're about the same size. They're both kind of fun, a lot of
hutspa. They can move okay. They're not great athletes, but they're good athletes. And they can make
plays. I mean, if you look at Gardner Manchu, minchew, you know, I say this to friends all the time.
How you enter a business is how you'll be judged. If you start in the mail room, there's going to be a
percentage of people who don't take you seriously. And if you start as a president and you're a buffoon,
you'll still get about a two-year runway.
Minshu enters the league.
It's kind of an afterthought and a backup,
so nobody takes him seriously.
But if you watch him playing, you look at his numbers,
he is a high, high-end backup in this league.
And to your point, if you have him start for six games,
you can win three of them.
If you give him some talent, you can win three of them.
I think he's just kind of a little quirky
so people don't pay attention to the numbers that he's putting up.
So, Dak Prescott, speaking of the Cowboys,
once again did not play in a preseason game this weekend.
And as the team turns their attention to their opener against Tampa,
Jerry Jones, not the head coach, confirmed that DAC will be out there for week one.
Jerry said he's good to go.
He turned it loose and was none the worse for it.
The MRIs are showing all systems go.
He's throwing with velocity and emphasis.
He's throwing on the run.
I think we've really done the right thing easing this along.
Okay.
Well, I still like to have a back.
quarterback somewhere in those plans? I'd like to have a backup quarterback somewhere in the plans.
I also, and listen, I am a DAC fan. I don't hide my affection for Dak Prescott. I think he is
great. I think he's going to come back off the ankle injury, perfectly fine, and I think he's the
perfect Dallas Cowboys quarterback. Perfect face for that franchise. But I get very weary when I'm
hearing things from an organization that is opposite from what I'm seeing.
And this feels a little bit Todd Gurleyish, where we don't really know how severe the injury is.
We're not seeing the production that we should be seeing.
We're not seeing Zach Prescott out there.
We keep hearing that he's 100% ready to go, but he didn't play at all in the preseason.
I understand the injury is one of those ones where you don't want to aggravate it,
but I'm just a little weary of this whole situation.
I'm same way.
So Patrick Mahomes has become the poster boy for those who advocate sitting new quarterbacks
behind a veteran for their rookie season.
And Travis Kelsey was asked on The Rich Eisen Show
how much he thinks that sitting behind
Alex Smith actually helps Mahomes be successful.
I think I saw it from the get-go,
his determination, his ability to see coverages early,
feel confident in what he's seen, be able to throw a good ball.
And then obviously his ability to make plays
when the play breaks down.
It's just second to knowing that I've ever played with
or ever seen on the field.
So I'm a little biased when I say,
I don't think he needed that year,
but I do think that it helped him
be ready for the next season.
There's only been three first-round
quarterbacks who did not play at all their
rookie season since the 2000 NFL
draft. Jordan Love,
Jason Campbell,
and Carson Palmer. Remember Patrick Mahomes
played week 17 of his rookie year.
But to sit the entire
season, there's only been three since
the year 2000. This idea
that all these quarterbacks need
to sit their entire rookie season...
It's situational. It's situational, but it's also
it's really unprecedented to actually
do that. The easing in of a young guy, I can understand. I think every situation is different.
I think Trey Lance's situation is different than Justin Fields' situation is different than Trevor
Lawrence. They're all very different because the teams and the situations they go to are different.
But the idea that you should not put a rookie quarterback out there right away, I push back on,
especially if you're in a situation where you have a decent team around and you can develop him a little
bit. You have more runway when you take a quarterback that high. You have a little bit of grace with
your fans, with the media, because everyone knows this is a young player. But you also get the advantage
of seeing what you have in them fully, seeing what you need to put around them to make them successful.
And then you can go and pay other people because you don't have to pay that young quarterback right away.
So I see both sides of it. And I tend to lean more towards start the young guy earlier.
But I mean, we saw what happened with Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert wasn't supposed to start right away.
remember we're going to keep a bubble around him,
had an incredible rookie season putting him out there right away.
Saw a little bit of this with Sean Watson.
Baker Mayfield wasn't supposed to start his rookie season right away.
He got in week three.
I just think we kind of are leaning too far into this.
Everyone needs to sit behind a veteran and learn how to play.
It's actually not how it usually goes,
and there is advantages to having young players out there earlier.
Yeah, well, first round teams that take quarterbacks usually need help.
And the kid in college is way better than the,
old guy they have sitting or playing in their current NFL situation. Joy with the news.
Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.
The Hurd-Ly News. So Gerald McCoy, the Raiders, he's going to join us now again live.
Let's go to him. There he is. So let me ask you this. A lot of people, you've been around this
league now for a decade, a six-time Pro Boulder. A lot of people, myself included, look at the Raiders
and say, I just don't know if they have enough playmakers defensively. It's a very good
division with a lot of good quarterbacks. When you're around this team, you tell me what kind
talent do you see? What kind of roster is this? Because John Gruden needs to start winning here
pretty quick. Yeah, this is a more talented roster than you think. It's rare to come across a group
where you have a defensive line where both defensive ends are double-digit-sac guy.
Max Crosby is a double-digit-sac. Yonik has a big number-digit-sac. That's very rare to come across
where you have two guys like that.
All right, you got a guy in Jonathan Abram
who's coming into his own.
He's learning more and more
and the things he's been doing in training camp.
I think he's going to take the next step this year.
You know, our second round pick in Morick,
I never pronounce his name right.
I can never pronounce his name right.
But, I mean, he's coming off winning a college award.
So he's no slouch, and he's been making plays all camp.
He's been making plays all camp.
And the thing I love about our position group,
I don't want to even talk about our corners.
You know, we got Casey Hayward on one end,
and we got a new rookie who, if you guys haven't seen him,
he's been making plays all preseason.
He got a sack fumble in the first game.
The next game, he had a big play on the screen.
A few plays later, he had a big interception.
So we have talent.
And the officer's side of the ball, me,
it is what it is.
You've seen our talent.
We have one of the top running backs.
I think Derek Carr gets a bad rap for, you know, what has happened to him.
He's much better than people give him credit for.
I think he's a top quarterback.
If you ask me, we have a top three tight end.
Our office line is really good.
We got Henry Ruggs.
We have weapons on the offense.
We have weapons on the defense.
And the thing that's going to make this team great is the competition.
Everybody's been competing.
Everybody knows what everybody's saying.
Everybody knows what's going on with everybody.
The Raiders are doing this.
John Gruden has to, we don't care.
Everybody is competing.
And what I truly believe is that this team is going to catch everybody off guard
because we do have a lot of talent.
And the competition that's been going on in the training camp has been phenomenal.
And I'm excited to see it put all together on Monday night.
By the way, I thought Vegas should have gotten an NFL team years ago.
It's eight, nine home games.
I'm surprised hockey's been that popular.
But the NFL, I thought, would be a massive hit.
It's funny in Vegas.
One of the things I always heard from people about the NFL, they said, man, with all these
young kids in Vegas, we worry about them being distracted.
Well, you're in Vegas right now.
You're an older guy, but do you worry about Vegas, the casinos, the young kids?
It's a fun city.
There's a show every night.
There's attractions every night.
Do you worry?
You know, in Tampa, it's pretty boring.
In Charlotte, it's kind of boring.
You go to Vegas, it's never boring.
Do you worry about that?
No, I don't.
I think that's what it goes back to the type of coach John Gruden is.
He has a great handle on that, and that's where people like me come in.
When you bring in vets who have seen, you know, so much in the league,
you could take those young guys under your wing and Max Crosby and Yonick and Derek Carr.
It's going to take us, the guys in the locker room,
to keep control over all of that.
If you see somebody getting out of hand or somebody,
the focus has swayed away from what our focus should be
and that's getting that trophy,
then it's going to be on the vets to bring it back to center.
But we have a great group, man.
I'm not really concerned about the big city of me.
It's nobody, I mean, guys, they have any fun,
but no, I'm not really concerned about it.
By the way, do you think with your performance this weekend, Gerald,
that you made the Raiders?
Do you believe you made the team?
Yeah, I believe so.
You know, I believe I showed that I can still play, you know,
with not having played football in that long and to go out there and to consistently get off the ball the way I did,
consistently be in the backfield and disrupt things.
You know, that's what they, that's really what it's about.
You know, before I got injured, I was, I was under contract for three years with the Cowboys.
So it's not like people were concerned about can I play.
I don't think that was a concern.
The concern was can he come back from a, you know,
a devastating leg injury at his age?
And I believe that I showed that I can and that I did.
But, you know, I haven't had any practice time.
Yesterday was my real first reps.
So I'll get better with time with more reps and getting back in my group.
Good seeing you, Gerald McCoy, Raiders, defensive tackle, silver and black.
Good seeing you, Gerald.
Excellent.
Great seeing my family.
Let's not make it.
so long before we talk again. Okay. Gerald's
great seeing you. By the way, Seattle's got another player that's
unhappy and I cannot believe all you. You know, it's so funny to me on this whole
Jake Paul thing. It's not that complicated. He made millions of dollars this weekend
to fight. He's an athlete. Well, he's a YouTuber. Well, Donald Trump was a real estate
mogul and then he became president. He, you know, I think what,
well, at least the reaction that I
personally was getting is that he hasn't fought any legitimate boxers.
Okay.
So he's fought MMA fighters and celebrities.
He hasn't fought any actual boxes.
We're not saying he's Marvin Hagler.
I did not say that.
I did not say that.
I said he was legit.
Yes.
Very triggering for some reason.
He is fighting and winning.
Is he picking his opponents?
Yeah.
That's what happens when you're the A side.
And he brings in the money.
This is how this sport works.
When you have season tickets, when you have jersey sales,
when you have whole leagues, then you can run things differently.
That's not how the sport of boxing is set up.
It is sold.
It is entertainment.
If you go back to Connor McGregor's early fights, he fought tomato cans.
This is what Dana White does.
This is what boxing does.
You get a guy with talent and you say he's a two-year project.
Let's get him six fights.
Tomato can, tomato can.
Okay, okay, okay.
And then about fight six or seven, you're like,
let's give him somebody that could punch him a little.
So in the fourth fight, Jake Paul got whacked in the fourth round, but he won the fight.
So that's a real test.
Tyron Woodley would have knocked out a lot of guys that stepped in the ring.
Didn't knock out Jake Paul.
It's funny who we give chances to.
I mean, I don't think it's about us giving them the chances.
People are buying the fights.
And even if you're not buying the fight because you don't believe in this new wave of celebrities fighting and all that,
and that's totally fine.
Yeah.
But you can't talk about it then because you are feeding the machine.
that you claim to hate.
It is a business built off
of entertainment, selling the fights,
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brilliant boxers,
just the gentleman
of the sweet science. If we don't
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Another Seattle Seahawks safety quandary digs
right before the season saying,
quote, you can't deny me what I deserve.
I don't want to play without a new contract.
Seattle's been incredibly noisy,
and I find it fascinating.
with Russell Wilson. I feel like he's on an island. There's Russell and then all the other players.
Usually locker rooms reflect the quarterback. If you look at Brady, he's intense and ruthless.
That was New England. It kind of shared that. Mahalms is loose and playful and fun. And so are the
Chiefs players. It's a fun atmosphere. Aaron Rogers, smart, kind of snarky. A lot of the guys in
the locker room and Green Bay got little, you know, they're outspoken guy. Russell Wilson,
Mr. Optimism, Mr. Positive Vives, Go Hawks.
And he's surrounded by a bunch of kind of moody, what's in it for me.
I want a contractor.
I'm not going to practice.
And it's weird.
I think Seattle players respect Russell Wilson, but is he one of the guys?
Like, I don't know.
It's very weird.
Everybody's what's in it for me?
And I'm like, it's, it's, it's, Russell Wilson until this year was just like focused,
children's hospitals, optimism.
Go Hawks.
It's a weird vibe up there.
And T.J. Hushman Zata, you played with Pete Carroll.
You know Pete Carroll's joining us live.
And let me ask you, it's weird.
This is like the fourth Seahawk.
Give me a new contract.
What do you make of it?
It's the culture that Pete brings to the team.
You can be yourself.
You can say what you want to say.
You can do what you want to do.
And so they get comfortable seeing what they
want to say in doing what they want to do. If you think about it, Russell Wilson started this.
He said a couple years ago, you have until this day to sign me. If you do not sign me,
I'm not signing a contract. Pretty much, I'm forcing your hand right now. Give me a deal,
or I'm leaving, or I'm going to try to leave. What did they do? They signed them to a deal.
And so other players see the quarterback do it. He gets a deal. Let me see if I can do it. I know I'm not
Russell Wilson, but Pete Carroll just gives you this
feeling on a team that you can just be yourself and these guys
literally are being themselves. It's almost as if an analogy.
Your kid is just wild and crazy all the time.
Says what he wants to say and then he gets out in public and he's wild and
crazy and he embarrasses you. You're like, boy, you better watch your mouth and your
son is thinking, I do this all the time.
And so Pete Curle has to understand the culture that he's bringing to the team
we're grown men, but if I feel like I'm underpaid on certain teams,
you go through your age and you might not say much.
They're going to say it because Pete Carroll gives them that liberty.
Yeah, that's really interesting.
Good take.
So you had Eli Manning on your radio show, Fox Sports Radio, this weekend.
I love Eli.
And now that Eli is out of it and can be totally transparent, he's more outspoken.
I've been told that he got into the Aaron Rogers,
Jordan Love situation and was very transparent with you.
Oh, yeah, it's shocked us.
The question was asked, what is your take on the Green Bay Packers and the Aaron Rogers
situation?
And it shocked me that he was so transparent.
He basically said, Aaron knows Jordan is the answer.
Green Bay knows Jordan is an answer.
And so Aaron is basically holding their feet to the fire because both know that Jordan
Love is not the quarterback of the future.
I was shocked that he said that.
I don't think he's wrong.
I mean, seriously, we said this.
If, you know, Jordan Love, if he was the guy, I mean, Green Bay's history is, they wouldn't tolerate it.
They let go of Far if they let go of Aaron Rogers.
I mean, he's expensive, right?
So I might take away as Eli's right.
Do you want to let, would you let go of a player that the previous season just won MVP?
I don't think any team would do that.
And for furthermore, just to somewhat defend Jordan Love is he hadn't played in a game.
they didn't know what they had.
And Jordan Love, you can watch practice and be great.
You can watch practice and be bad.
But when that game starts, you just never know how a guy is going to perform.
And so the preseason, I believe Jordan Love has played well.
He hasn't been great.
He hasn't been bad.
And so they're going to have a tough decision to make.
And I don't believe Jordan Love showed them enough this preseason to move off Aaron Rogers.
So we know that Deshaun Watson could potentially have legal troubles.
That aside for the moment.
if you're in the Dolphins locker room
and the coaches keep telling you it's to his team
to his team to his team and then you read a story
and it's like we're going to give up eight picks
to get to Sean Watson.
How does that play to the locker room?
The locker room is just one to know who's going to be our quarterback.
And when you watch Blind Flores' press conference,
he didn't deny it.
He kind of bounced around it,
but he didn't deny that they were interested in Deshawn Watson at all.
And so I'm sure Tua in the back of his mind is thinking to himself like, oh, my God, what is going on?
Am I going to be here?
It's some uncertainty on his end.
And so if he has that, the team obviously are going to think the same thing.
And for the players that don't believe in Tua, they want Deshaun Watson.
But I believe we've seen a different tour this preseason.
I just don't understand how COVID last year hit.
There's no mini-count.
There's no training camp.
He's coming off an injury.
Shan Galey is his offensive coordinator who isn't really in tune with how football is played now.
Right.
Not saying he can't coach.
What did they expect from Tua last year?
He's done well this preseason with offseason, preseason games.
And so I still believe Tua can be a player.
He is small, but he can play the quarterback position.
But also look at the weapons that he has on offense.
any quarterback gets in that offense, they're going to play well.
Yeah.
Now, getting Will Fuller, Jalen Waddled, they've absolutely upgraded.
Devante Parker was already there.
I like Mike Gisick, he's a very good tight end.
Finally, you know Joe Burrell?
In fact, I was DMing Joe Burrell this weekend, wishing him well.
I think he's an easy guy to root for, but we've heard the questions about Jamar Chase has struggled in preseason.
Joe Burrell, you know this.
You come off a big leg injury.
It messes with your head.
What are realistic expectations?
for a really likable, easy-to-root-root-for kid who I think has some Tony Romo to his style, to his play.
What are your expectations for Joe Burrell and the rebuilding Bengals this year?
I expect him, I would say, by game three or four, to look like he looked last year as a rookie.
It's going to take some time for him to get comfortable.
You saw in the preseason, safe throw, bubble screen, three plays.
They just wanted to get him on the field.
But it's going to take some time for it.
He's going to have to get hit a couple of times.
And hopefully they're just tackles.
He really doesn't get hit hard.
But it's going to take the time.
I see the Bengals winning six to seven games.
But Joe, with his confidence, kind of like,
he's just a confident dude, borderline cocky.
As soon as that comes back, the Bengals are going to roll.
He just has this aura battle, man, this confidence that I got you, get on my back.
Everybody talks about at LSU how they were so historical.
man joe was driving that engine man he was driving the train he was an engine of that car and so you you look at
those players now and see how they perform it joe was the reason that team was so successful because they
believed in him he just brought this confidence that they hadn't seen before and he's going to do
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eaten.
Hey.
You saw that?
My nephew had a really good game this weekend.
Good seeing you.
By the way, you said your other nephew
plays BYU, Arizona.
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From 1979, that was a big moment for me.
84 was big to me.
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