The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 09/07/2021 - HOUR 3 - NFL

Episode Date: September 7, 2021

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Starting point is 00:02:58 And Romo is now joining us live. Four-time champ. You know, it's interesting. I was saying earlier today, Bill, I think the Raiders moving to Vegas. It's good for the league. I think Vegas has a personality. Gruden has a personality.
Starting point is 00:03:10 You know, there's a lot of teams in markets, Jacksonville, you know, Detroit, that just kind of swim in there and nothing. And Vegas feels big and Gruden feels big. But I've got my doubts. They have reached on a lot of draft picks. I don't know where they're at today outside of Derek Carr and Waller the tight end.
Starting point is 00:03:28 There's a lot of question marks to me. You know the organization well. If I said to you, what is their plan? What is their vision? What are the Raiders built? Because I think it all starts with that, whether it's a business or a football team. Where are you going? What are you definitively?
Starting point is 00:03:44 What are the Raiders today, Bill? What are the Raiders? They've got a offensive-minded head coach that wants to focus on offense and make – brilliant play calls, and they ignored the defense for the last three years. And it showed the record. It showed, hey, they did not do a good job drafting. And their best players, their best player, I'll give them this, is Darren Waller. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Darren Roller is one of the best players in the National Football League. Derek Carr needs to have a breakout year and prove that he can lift the talent around him. And I think they're getting better on defense. You know, I was there for an alumni weekend a few weeks ago and we watched practice, and they are getting better. Ruggs is going to be a better player this year. I think he's going to shock a lot of people this season. and if he has a breakout year, I think that's going to make a difference for the writers.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Sticking with the Bay Area, you know the Niners well. Obviously, you played for the 49ers for years, and you followed them. The question is Garoppolo and Trey Lance, and I've said this, at this point, I just can't trust Jimmy G's health, and you played in the NFL for years.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Some guys, they're just brittle. They just are. It's just the way it is. Give me your kind of prediction on the growth of Trey Lans, what you think we'll see going forward. Trading deadline, maybe they move Garoppolo if they like Lance. I'm guessing.
Starting point is 00:05:34 But what is your gut feeling on what we see with their quarterback situation? You know what? You know, I was thinking that they were going to deal Jimmy sooner. But if he comes out with that competition and shows he can stay healthy, he may end up being the starter for the entire year this year, which is something I didn't think he would be there at the start of the season. And he's proven in the preseason he stayed healthy and he looked really good. Trey Lance has also looked really good.
Starting point is 00:06:15 So when you pull that trigger, hey, I'm not at practice every day. I don't see what the coaches see every single day. Trey Lance clearly is the future. It just is when are we going to get it? Are we going to get it sometime this season? Or are they going to wait until next year to pull, you know, to get rid of Garoppolo? You know, it's interesting. Philip Rivers had such a solid year last year proving that athleticism at quarterback can be at times overstated.
Starting point is 00:06:47 If you've got protection in a running game, Tom Brady. You start looking at the last five Super Bowls, the quarterbacks have been Foles and Gough and Matt Ryan and Garoppelow and Brady. A lot of guys that don't move particularly well. When you were a linebacker, we've always known you can run around all you want, but the job of the quarterback is to get you in and out of trouble at the line and distribute the football. And I try to tell this to people sometimes. So much of what Brady does, you can't see. You can't hear because you're not there.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Take me to your career. and a quarterback or two that was older, but could literally manipulate the line of scrimmage and manipulate even Bill Romanowski, because I think some of Brady's greatness, fans struggle with this. We can't see it. We can't hear it.
Starting point is 00:07:32 We're not at the line. And take my audience to what that looks like when you are facing these older quarterbacks. You know, you talked about mobile quarterbacks, and there's really only one that stood out, maybe two when you look at Warren Moon, Randall Cunningham. And those were, you know, the only guys that I really had to, the next guy who I felt like really did a great job at the line of scrimmage
Starting point is 00:08:05 because we used to mess with him was Rich Gannon. Yeah. But Rich Gannon was big in the pocket and he was hard to bring down. but he was the guy that I really look at and say, you know what, I take that back. John Elway, whenever I played Denver, you know, and then I got to be his teammate, but he was a guy that definitely, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:33 changed the game at the line of scrimmage. And then I had to go up again. I was Steve Young's teammate, but Steve Young changed the game at the line of scrimmage because he was that. right and he knew what the defense was and whether we were in man or whether we were in zone and now it's up to the defense to make the play or the offense to make the play it's the athlete that has to step up and get it done yeah when you um you know we were just talking about
Starting point is 00:09:08 salary caps and how you know the higher percentage cap hit the quarterback is believe it or not uh really the determining factor over the last decade, whether you get to the Super Bowl. If you're a bigger than 12% cap hit, you're not going to win a Super Bowl. It's just the way it works. And you start looking around this league. And there's a handful of really good players I would pay for it quarterback. Mahomes, Josh Allen. They're just certain guys, I'm going to pay them.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Russell Wilson, I'm just going to pay the money for. By and large, though, I'll give you a great example. Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins, maybe a Baker Mayfee. clearly capable. By and large, how many quarterbacks, when you look around this league, would you really pay the big money for? Do you think it's now an overpaid position because it's been glamorized? It's been romanticized. Or do you buy that this league is largely, there's half the league you would pay a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Or do you think we've reached a point where the quarterbacks now make more than they're worth? I think there's a bunch that make more than their worth, but it's the most important position, Colin. And I know we talk about it all the time. Without a great, there's been a handful of guys that are handful of teams. You can count on one hand or less that have won the Super Bowl with an average quarterback. It doesn't happen very often, and it's been a long time. And I would say I'd probably go back to, you know, you could say the Ravens in 15. You could say the Tampa Bay Buccaneers back before that.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Other than that, you're going to see just great quarterbacks that have won the Super Bowl. So to me, I don't think it's an overpaid position. I think you've got to pay for that position and you've got to have the best. And when you overpay for a guy that doesn't deliver, you just set your team back, organization back three to four to five years. Yeah, Minnesota's dealing with a little bit of that right now. By the way, you know injuries well. Dak had a shoulder issue in camp.
Starting point is 00:11:33 They brought on baseball trainers. Most NFL players I've known on the defensive side have all. bad shoulders when they get out of the sport. It's just you guys get your shoulders are beat up, the leverage you play with, the speed. Take me to what DAC is dealing with, because I'm sure you've had a shoulder injury or two in your career. Do you worry it all with an added game to the schedule? I mean, we saw in camp, he wasn't throwing the ball down the field.
Starting point is 00:11:59 We saw it. Can you get over that over the course of a season? You know what? You can get over it if you have the right people working on you. And I know this. Dak Prescott does not have who Bill Romanowski had when I played in the NFL. He does not have a Mark Lindsay who now takes care of Christian McCaffrey full time day in and day out. He doesn't have a Craig Bueller that Dr. Craig Bueller that took care of me when I played.
Starting point is 00:12:38 and if he did, his shoulder wouldn't be an issue. But the NFL still does not know how to take care of injuries with high-level therapists. That is going to be the new frontier in the NFL that will happen over the next 10 years. They're going to have guys like Tom Brady has worked with to take care of his body to keep him loose. and flexible and elastic and healthy at an older age. And, you know, Dact just doesn't have the right people taking care of him. That's interesting. You mentioned Brady.
Starting point is 00:13:21 How much of his game now is Alex Guerrero? I mean, you obviously respect what Brady's done. When you got older, was strength less important? Was pliability more important your last two or three years in the league? You know, at the end of the day, for me, Colin, it really came down to speed. You know, I was strong enough to play in the NFL. I needed to stay fast. And that's why I lived on the track five to six days a week during the off season.
Starting point is 00:13:55 And everything was speed. And that wasn't an issue for me. And what knocked me out as we talked about before is concussion. So with Brady, hey, Brady is elastic. His knees have been in good shape other than, you know, he had an issue this offseason that he got taken care of. And for him, it's all about his offensive line taking care of him. Anyone that says, oh, you know, age has affected his arm, that is bold because his arm looked amazing last year. still elastic.
Starting point is 00:14:36 They just have to, all they have to do is block for him and he'll be able to make the throws because he's got one of the best receiving cores in the NFL. Bill Romanovsky Nutrition53.com. Billy, good talking to you. In the break, by the way.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Bill was talking about Europe. Bill and I talk Europe. Bill went to Europe with his beautiful wife, Julie. He walked eight miles a day. You, my friend, are committed to excellence. I don't know if the Raiders are. You're going to do the same, Colin. Trust me, you'll do the same.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Good scene. You say hi to Jules for me. Okay, take care. All right, good stuff. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the
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Starting point is 00:19:03 Yeah, you walk a lot in Europe. Well, I mean, they're ahead of us in a lot of transportation. Their train systems, insane. The train system is great, but it's not a place for, heels. Like you wear sneakers. Well, they got a lot of cobblestones. It's an old country. Yeah. You don't have a twist an ankle. I actually broke
Starting point is 00:19:23 I was wearing sandals and I broke my sandals the first day in Rome. Like two hours into walking. Were you there for 10 days? I was there for a week. I was there for eight days. Oh, my God. It was amazing. Your food pictures were ridiculous. Well, but while we didn't mention when we were talking in the break, we were talking about the food because you eat a lot of pasta and you eat a lot of pizza
Starting point is 00:19:42 and you would think like you're going to gain a bunch weight. You walk a lot. for one. But two, like the food isn't loaded with preservatives and been in the freezer for three weeks and they're eating it up. Like, it's fresh. So, um, it's, it's amazing. You're going to be ruined for, like, tomatoes are over for you. You're never going to be, look at a tomato the same way. Really? They're so good. I bet. Like, I could eat a tomato like right off the vine. It's funny. Going to Italy, I, I don't care about the wine. Like, that's not the thing for me. It's like the food. Well, the wine is very inexpensive. I just want to eat. I don't care about
Starting point is 00:20:13 the wine. I can get a, I care a little bit about the wine. A little bit. So John Gruden is heading into his fourth season since returning to the Raiders. They've yet to reach the playoffs with him as head coach, but he doesn't feel like he's on the hot seat this year. He said, I don't really feel pressure. Mark Davis is going to let me know if it's good enough or not, and I know what's good and what isn't. I'm 58 years old now, and I'm not working any less that I did when I was 38, so I'm doing the best I can. I'm proud of the results we've gotten, but also realistic.
Starting point is 00:20:38 I know it's at stake, but I'm not going to worry about it. Well, you've got big contracts, so we didn't have to worry about it. It's legacy now. He doesn't have to worry about it. I don't think he takes his job any less seriously because he has a long contract. Let me ask you this. Let's say it doesn't work. So what is his legacy?
Starting point is 00:20:55 It's fascinating. Like I'm not sure he cares about it, but I'm saying, how will we look at Gruden if this doesn't work? So he had success initially in Tampa and then it didn't work. He had some brief success in Oakland, hugely popular. He was very good on TV. He's as talented as anybody that's ever coached football on camera. I didn't work with him directly, but I always thought John was way underrated on television. The critics are lost.
Starting point is 00:21:25 He was great. The minute he's on, he stole the tele... He stole the tube. He stole. He was great, like a great actor. But in the Tampa wasn't great, and this isn't great? What's... I always like to ask this question whenever there's a new job or a new project.
Starting point is 00:21:43 or something that I'm involved in. What is the measure of success for this if it's something new? Can he make, let's say he leaves after seven, eight years. He retires after eight. And they have made the playoffs twice and they're at least viable. Like then I think to myself, that was fine. I don't need Super Bowls from John. Okay, so that's what I'm asking.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Like, they do need to be making the playoffs. I think that's standard for any. It's a rebuild. Right. Well, they were four and 12 when he took over in 2018. then they're seven and nine and last year they were in 8 8 and 8. So they are getting better. That's right. Now I do think the
Starting point is 00:22:18 criticisms are fair. The drafts have not been great. They just let go of Tanner Mew's and two third rounders. Have not ever played a snap for the Raiders. So they haven't done an amazing job of the draft but they might need a little more time to develop the guys that they do
Starting point is 00:22:34 have, but they have missed the playoffs all three seasons. The other thing you consider is the division that they're in. Now these are not excuses. I think you should, the measure of success is should be winning your division or making the playoffs. Otherwise, you had a disappointing season. But they are getting better year by year. Maybe we, maybe this is a longer buildup than we are used to dealing with these days.
Starting point is 00:22:54 It just doesn't feel great so far. I know everybody keeps telling me they're getting better. It doesn't feel great. It feels way worse than the records. It feels a little lost. It does. But are we doing, are we, are we a product of the microwave society, thick turn it around right now? And because it's John Gruden and because now they're in,
Starting point is 00:23:12 Las Vegas. Well, if they go nine and eight, then I should shut up. I guess that's the way to say it. Yeah, like if they're getting better every year. Then I got nothing to say. If they go nine and eight, then I'll stop talking about them. Or at least stop criticizing them. That's fair because they've gotten better each year to slow rebuild.
Starting point is 00:23:27 That's what I'm saying. So maybe we are, maybe our timeline and expectations are based off of the celebrity and the standards that we expect from John Gruden. Totally fair. And who is responsible for expectations? Are we responsible or are the people that we project these expectations on too responsible. They're getting better every year. So I guess this is a year. I do think this year, though, is a year they should take a significant step up. Yeah, it's been a little sloppy.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Like, you've had three years, so you should. Can we get pass rush? Could you have a pass rush? When you're in a division with Mahomes and Justin Herbert, here's one thing you got to get right, a pass rush. Do you think if they don't make the playoffs this year? Obviously, John Gruden's not going anywhere. Do you think that Mayock will be done there? Yep, yep. I think he'll be done. I think it won't be John won't be the one to fall initially. Mayock will be done. He'll go back to TV and do a fine job. And then Gruden will get, I think Dave also put the heat on him.
Starting point is 00:24:18 And then he'll hire another GM and they'll give John two more years. So John's through three. Mayock fired if they lose this year. John gets two more and that'll be year six. He'll get six years of the 10. So they're not making the playoffs by year. By the end of six. I think John's.
Starting point is 00:24:33 I think that's fair for any coach. He's through three. If this year stinks, Mayock whacked. they'll get two years with a new GM. So, Dak Prescott kicks off his 2020 season when the Cowboys travel to Tampa to play the bucks on Thursday. It's so close. So close.
Starting point is 00:24:48 You can smell it. Smell it. You can smell the grass in the dirt. Well, he was putting up big numbers in 2020 before he got injured. And he is expecting to get off to an even better start this time around. He said, I have high expectations for myself. I don't necessarily want the numbers that I had early because we weren't winning games and we weren't being competitive early.
Starting point is 00:25:04 And that's why some of those numbers came about. I planned to come out better than I was last year. That's just the work that I've put in going all the way back to February. When I got back on the field, I am excited for it. Well, pass-a-rating if he can get to mid-90s, 30 TDs, 12 picks, and they can win nine games? Good year. That's what he did in 2019. He had 65% completion percentage, almost 5,000 yards, 30 touchdowns, and 11 interceptions.
Starting point is 00:25:29 I think that's what he is. Now, I will say this, some of that was against bad teams. I think the Giants are better defensively. The difference is Washington and the Giants. you're not dropping 35 on those teams. So I think his numbers will come down, but I don't think it's a product of him being worse. I actually think the division is defensively is interesting.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Yeah. I think offensively. Washington is not. It's a lot of nonsense. But defensively, yeah, Washington and the Giants defensively, you're not going to drop 30 on those. So Dax's numbers, don't worry me. If he goes 9 and 8, mid-90s passer rating, he's back.
Starting point is 00:26:04 I do think in this game, though, it will be interesting because he's coming off of the shoulder strain they don't have Zach Martin. You know what those numbers are without Zach Martin. They're not winning Thursday. They're going to want to rely on Zeke more. It's going to be an uphill battle on Thursday. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:19 But moving forward to the season, we know what they're capable of. And speaking of that, the Buck's defense will have their hands full with that receiving corps. Mari Cooper, C.D. Lamb. And Bruce Ariens knows that the receiving corps will be tough to stop. I mean, they're loaded. And they all do different things. And I mean, that I think that three-so might be the best. I'll argue that ours might be too.
Starting point is 00:26:48 But, you know, it's a hell of a challenge when you have that many guys. Well, the Bucks have the number one ranked past catching unit going into this season, according to pro football focus with Mike Evans, Chris Goblin, Antonio Brown, Scotty Miller, Tyler Johnson, and Jalian Darden, plus Gronk, Cameron Brayton, O.J. Howard. It's just kind of funny reading that, considering what Tom Brady was dealing with in New England. But the Cowboys of the second ranked
Starting point is 00:27:12 past catching unit to Bruce's point with Amari Cooper, Cedley, Land, Michael Gallup, Cedric Wilson, and Blake Jarwin and Dalton Schultz
Starting point is 00:27:20 and the Bucks of the 21st ranked past defense last season. So FoxBet has the line at minus eight. Yep. That's the only reason I would consider it
Starting point is 00:27:34 is because of the Zach Martin situation and because DAC is coming off his shoulder strain, they probably want to limit how much he's throwing, but are they going to be able to rely on the run game in that situation? All I know is I'm really excited for football and it's so close. Same here. Joy with the news.
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Starting point is 00:31:12 What's up, fam? This Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. podcast point game is about defining the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before.
Starting point is 00:31:29 And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense.
Starting point is 00:31:51 And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing. That man, hell get to fly. He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you. you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:32:16 The NFL regular season starts Thursday, and Terry Bradshaw is giving away $1 million on the Fox Bet Super 6 app. Scan the code below. Download the app for free and predict the outcome of six NFL games for your shot to win Terry's money. All right, Cousin Sal, co-host of Fox Bet Live, I consider you, I consider you a professional gambler. Are you comfortable with me calling you that? Yeah, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:32:39 And what should I call you? I'm going to call you Rosemary. Is that okay? Is that okay? It's new. Let's try it. I'm excited. I chugged a vat of mayonnaise.
Starting point is 00:32:49 I'm ready. We're two days away. It's fun. This is the best. Listen, so I am not a professional gambler and I want accreditation to be a sharp. It'll probably take a couple more years. But I think I'm getting sharper hanging around people like you. And so I like to bring you on and you take me kind of a new level.
Starting point is 00:33:07 He's using me. I knew it. No? All right. Yeah. Okay. So let's just start with. This is always fun.
Starting point is 00:33:13 everybody's got a team mine's Washington that I like more than the gambling community and the betters I like Washington and who is your team I like well we're going to talk about the Falcons I think but I like the Oakland Raiders I like
Starting point is 00:33:29 three teams coming out of each West AFC West and NFC West I think the Raider I think it's time first of all I'm excited to see what kind of fan base they have is it going to be everyone goes on their bachelor party this is the Baltimore guys get together this is the weekend, or is it the black hole?
Starting point is 00:33:45 I think they fill that place. They have a nice contingency, and they win these games. They've lost all these close games. We're five and two to start. Cruden's got to step it up. The offense is there. Waller is an elite player. I think they win and they make the playoffs. That's my go. You say Washington.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Well, I told Joy this. It's the best, four first rounders on the front line. And if you start looking at the best defensive and offensive lines in the league historically, their playoffs. teams and a weaker division and do I worry about Ryan Fitzpatrick? Of course I do. There's something called a trading deadline. I don't think they're out of their running. Let me throw another
Starting point is 00:34:25 team at you because I love Sam Darnold. Go ahead. What do you make a Carolina? They lost more one possession games than almost any team in the league. You know how it works. That always flips. One of the reasons you like the Raiders. They're losing all the while. What do you make a Carolina? I like them. I'm a Sam Darnold guy. Okay, and I think you don't have a better, you have a healthy McCaffrey? There's no better outlet, right? So you're not going to ask them to throw down field 15, 20 times a game like you did with the Jets when they were playing catch up. Now, Atlanta's my surprise team in that division.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Otherwise, I would go Carolina, but I don't think you're in bad shape there. You've got 2,000-yard receivers there offensively. Defensively, they keep you in games. I just worry, though, Colin, you pick teams like Washington and Carolina, and people take these clips online, and it's like bad takes exposed. You could take it back right now. You don't have to, you're rolling her eyes already at the Washington team. It was two and eight without Alex Smith.
Starting point is 00:35:19 But go ahead. Let's hear it. If bad takes ruin the career, I'd still be in Sheboykin. Because I've had, in my career, I've had more than anybody. That goes on the headstone. All right. I like that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:29 I said this, that if you go back and look at how Belichick embraced the COVID year, he thought it was a joke. He opted out. The players opted out. I just take last year away. And he owns young quarterbacks. The division is now Zach Wilson, Tua, and pretty young Josh Allen. I think the Patriots are a playoff team. Do you?
Starting point is 00:35:49 I do. And I did a month ago. And then all our Patriot friend, you know, they're the worst in the world. Our friends have ruled for New England or the Red Sox or whatever. So now they're all over Mack Jones and he's going to Canton and all that. But Mac Jones aside, I like this as a playoff team. I think you're right. I think Belichick, I believe in him at 16 to 1 to win coach of the year. Now this is an award he hasn't won in a decade. So he's plus 1,600. Plus 1,600 to win Coach of the Year.
Starting point is 00:36:14 And I think the old man, like you said, said last year, whatever. Let's see if we can win. I'll hand it to Tom Brady. I'll win with nothing. He's done with that. He's taking a look. He's like, I have leaving my inheritance. I'm looking.
Starting point is 00:36:25 I have sons who are meth dealers and they don't call me on my birthday. Forget it. I'm going all out here. Spend 288 million in free agency. We pick up the quarterback. They already have a good defense. I think that's an 11-win team, and that's enough to get him, coach of the year. How about that, Joy?
Starting point is 00:36:39 That's what I've been saying. An 11-12-win team. What's the best bet? Doesn't mean they'll win the Super Bowl, but the best bet Cousin Sal believes to win the Super Bowl. I know you did like six and a half hours this morning on the Rams, but I really do like them. And I know they're in that tough division.
Starting point is 00:36:53 What are they 14 to 1? They're 14 to 1, 6 to 1 that win the NFC. That's three teams in the West that over and there is 10 or 10 and a half wins. That's unheard of. You don't see that. Maybe last year it was close with that same division, but I really love their defense. I wasn't all about Stafford,
Starting point is 00:37:08 But if you look at it, he had that one year with Detroit where they had a top 10 defense and he won 11 games. He's going to get that. That defense isn't allowed 13 points midway through the fourth quarter. And Stafford's going to have put up like 30, 35. Don't forget, Goff, the Bulls turnover is by far over the last three years. He just has to not do that. And McVeigh is in love with him. And I love that.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Ramstein. Okay. Everybody has a team you can't bet because you can't beat them. I haven't won an Atlanta Falcons bet in 38 years. But you like Matt Ryan this year. What's the bet? 11 to 1. most passing yards. Now, don't forget,
Starting point is 00:37:40 this doesn't have to be on a team that's a good team, right? You can play a lot of garbage time and get up there. He's got 10 years with 4,000 or more passing yards, right? He's always around 46, 47. He had a 4,900 year in there. Calvin Ridley is becoming a top five receiver. Ridley, great. I think Gage
Starting point is 00:37:56 could put up equal numbers as Julio Jones and then Pitts. I mean, they had red zone woes. That was their problem. There you go. It's solved with Kyle Pitts. 11-1, I think it's a good number. Yeah, no, that is interesting because if you go back to last year, and I think that Arthur Smith offense
Starting point is 00:38:12 changed Ryan Tannahill's trajectory. Now he's, Matt Ryan's always been as good as his O line and his coordinator. So Arthur Smith can elevate him. What team are you going to stay away from, Cousin, Sal, early on? Oh, I might even
Starting point is 00:38:28 say my own cowboys. You know, I really, I like them to win the division, but I hate betting. You know, little Wayne came to my house and we traded high tops and talked about the cowboy. Oh, that's a different host. I'm getting confused here. The Cowboys are in trouble this Thursday night against Tampa. I think
Starting point is 00:38:44 they're in trouble in the trenches. You know, Zach Martin out. But as far as I'm concerned, it's a freebie. That used to be for Cowboys fans. You have to go to MetLife where you play that game Sunday night against the Giants and you don't want to go 0-1 in division. It's okay. They'll lose to Tampa. There are now eight-point underdog. Fine.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Let them lose. They carry on from them. So early on, I would say stay away from them, but later on, pick them up in the mid-year. By the way, a team, I'm interested. Cleveland, Trent Dilfroa said this. Pro athletes all deal with failure the same way. They work harder.
Starting point is 00:39:16 They deal with success differently. A lot of guys can't handle success. How do you think Baker and the Browns handle expectations? They are largely considered second and third best roster in the league. Playoff team, how is it roll to you? I do like them. And it's weird because you're going to get crapped on because Baker is going to eventually take this team far, but he doesn't have to do much. Not a ton.
Starting point is 00:39:38 No one's got it better than Baker Mayfield right now with the defensive parts they added with Clownie. They're good ward. And now, you know, running back, like just hand off and you'll be fine. What does his stats have to look like? Like 22 and 13 and he could take them to a championship game? He was a mid-90 passer rating quarterback. And I think as long as Miles Garrett stays healthy and the secondary comes together, it's an 11 to 12-win team. He's not going to be, again, when you have the best offensive line and a top back,
Starting point is 00:40:07 You can go six years back in the NFL. You win somewhere between 11 and 13 games. Yeah. So you're a professional sports gambler. By the way, MDrive for Men.com, 20% off. The code is heard. Don't let age beat you. It's not beating us.
Starting point is 00:40:19 A professional gambler. Just give me, I've got 20 seconds. Yeah. One line for an amateur better that's betting for the first time ever this year. For just for this week? No, for the year. Give me advice. Oh, don't listen to everyone who says bet within your means.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Go crazy. We only live once. Extra. Points.com, all your sports gambling needs. I know you have podcasts, but I think you make people pay for them. It's different. Yeah. Just don't live within your means.
Starting point is 00:40:45 It's nonsense. Exactly. Cousin, Sal, we'll see you tomorrow. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their Between Songs Band.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days I'd put on 10 pounds, I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the Look Back at it podcast. From 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 was big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the... 80s. 84 was a wild year. It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:42:19 A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, the Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.
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