The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 10/30/2020 - HOUR 3 - Matthew McConaughey

Episode Date: October 30, 2020

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84's big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors.

Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks for listening to The Heard podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday from 12 to 3 Eastern, 9 to noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and FS1. Find your local station for the herd at Fox Sports Radio.com or stream us live every day on the IHeartRadio app by searching Heard. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Sunday on Fox, a great doubleheader starts with the Vikings taking on Aaron Rogers and the Packers. Then Drew Breeze leads a Saints against Nick Bowles and the Bears or other regional action.

It all kicks off at one Eastern on Fox on the Fox Sports app. Terry Bradshaw is putting up a million dollars for grabs again in this week's free-to-play Super Six contest. All you have to do is correctly predict the outcome of six NFL games. Make sure you get your picks in before kick-off Sunday for your chance to be a millionaire and for top story scores and more. go to the Fox Sports app. Colin Steelers, Ravens is one of the matchups this week. Give us your winner and final score. I stayed away from this.

I initially loved Pittsburgh, but they just came off a really emotional game and Baltimore's off a buy. I think I'm going to go Baltimore close. Baltimore 30, 26. So high scoring? Yeah, kind of. Well, God, in the NFL, that's not even high scoring anymore.

Yeah, that's true. Used to be. The whole league's crazy. I mean, seriously, you look at some of these defenses. Pittsburgh's defense, great. And Tennessee, what, had 27 kicking for 30. I mean, that's a great defense in the NFL. It's just a, you know, it's fun, though.

It's a different world we live in right now. If you look at the way it works in the NFL, it's a different world. It's that way in college, too. Yeah. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential.

Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win.

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Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but yeah, yeah, yeah. But just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS.

on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeartRadio app,

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Unlimited talk, two gigs of data. Dial pound 250 and say my name. Dial pound 250 and say my name. Joy Taylor with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Gardner Minshu is dealing with an injury to his throwing hands.

He reportedly had multiple fractures and a strained ligament in his right thumb. The Jags have a buy this weekend, but his status for week nine against the Texans is uncertain. Mike Glennon is Jacksonville's. backup quarterback if he is not back next week. They are one in six. We are giving a lot of attention to the New York Jets and the Atlanta Falcons. And I think maybe because we were also high on Gardner at the beginning of the season that we forgot. And that the Jags are also not good.

And they could potentially be at the top of the draft at the end of the season. The rest of the schedule after the by week is against the Texans. Then they're at the Packers, Steelers, Browns. at the Vikings, Titans, at Ravens, Bears, and at Colts. I would say Jets, Jags will have the top two picks, and Jaxes is going to take a quarterback. We know that. They're going to take a quarterback. The question is, will the Jets, and they can either get a boatload of picks because somebody's going to trade up?

It won't be the Giants, but it'll be like Washington and it'll trade up. Listen, Washington could give them a good defensive, giving me Ryan Carrigan and your next five number one picks or something, and you keep Sam Darnel, because the Jets need an edge rusher, Ryan Carrigan. they're going to have tons of cap space and a bunch of picks. And they have so many picks in this draft. Yeah, the Jets. And the Jets could have more if they traded out of that spot and gave somebody else Trevor Lawrence. Well, look, I mean, if you're Trevor Lawrence, I mean, the Jets very, very well may just win two games at the end of the season.

Like, you never know. Again, players and coaches don't tank. Only front offices do. So they're still going to play as hard as they can. They're still putting tape out there. So that's just not how it works. and sometimes it just can flip at the end of the season, especially if they're up against people who are, you know,

going into the playoffs and, you know, if they say they sit someone, that can happen. So what do you do if you're Trevor Lawrence and the Jaguars end up with the first overall pick? Well, you go there and no state tax and lose a bunch of games and maybe they can turn things around. They have drafted some good players over the years. It's not like the Jags haven't had some decent drafts. They have.

I would personally feel more comfortable as Trevor Lawrence going to the New York Jets at this point. So the patients could be. looking at a rebuild, especially if they fall to two and five on Sunday. According to Albert Breer, the Patriots have told other teams that they would listen to offers for almost anyone ahead of the trade deadline.

The team has been quiet thus far, but could be swayed apart with some of its best players, if things don't go as planned against the bills this weekend. Spon Gilmore's name has been out there. The bills are... They'll crush them. Bills will win. Favored by four. I almost put this in the Blazing Five. I bailed off.

I, you know, Philadelphia, Philadelphia looks too easy and Buffalo looks too easy. I stay away from night. They're like trap games. They look too easy, but I think Buffalo will roll them. Well, odds provided by Fox Bet. I think that this is going to be a blowout. Yeah.

This is really a must-win situation for the Patriots, if they're even going to stay in the conversation, and for Cam Newton as well, because obviously Cam is putting together tape for next year for whatever they're going to do moving forward. Very quickly, the conversation has changed about if, you know, Cam is the future of the Patriots, and now into, you know, where will he end up next year?

year around the league. I know the Patriots are up to something. Yeah. I'm with you. This is not an accident. Of course they are. Like, Bill does not care. All this divorce talk. He's sitting back. This is what he's doing. With a zillion dollars in cap space next year.

Imagine this costume, but Bill Belichick's face. He is up to something. He has a master plan. He has a master plan for dinner. He's got a master plan for everything. It's definitely not an accident. Finally, the Nets announced that Mike Dantone has agreed to join the team's staff as an assistant coach.

This reunites him with the new head coach, Steve Nash, who he coached, obviously, during two separate sins throughout Nash's career, most notably with the Phoenix Suns, where Nash won two league MVP's, and the team had four straight seasons with at least 50 wins. I kind of, I like this move. Yeah, Ty Lou got a head job when Tyloo was an assistant. There's nothing wrong with being a coordinator in the NFL. We totally get it. What's wrong with Mike Dantone being an assistant for a couple of years, elevating his status?

everybody's going to go, oh, Kyrie, KD, offenses. Then he gets another job. It's not wrong with that. Well, also, the Nets are in a good situation right now. He has two stars. All the responsibilities not on him, as it has been for the past couple years. Maybe he just wants a little break. Like, he probably could get another head coaching job

or stood out for a year and wait for another position to open. This is a great situation. Again, I've been on this drumbeat all season long. Katie's coming back. The NBA is going to look very, very different next year. Oh, you're a little higher. on that than I am very high on the new on the Brooklyn Nets um I think they did an amazing job in the bubble with no one there I'm not entirely sure how the Kyrie katie thing is going to work

and now they have Steve Nash you know there's some talk with kiree and they don't need coaching and i think that's exaggerated but i think they're going to make problems for people in the east and it could be a problem overall maybe there you go joy taylor with the news well that's the news and thanks for stopping by the herd lie news great matthew mccanee the overall Award winning Academy Award winning actor. He won a Golden Globe. Emmy. He's going to be joining us. Texas Longhorn. He's their Minister of Culture for the Longhorn

Basketball and Entertainment Facility, which is set to open next year. So very interesting guy. You know his career. All the movies. The Wedding Planner. Wolfel Wall Street. Dallas Buyers Club. Interstellar Contact, which is back in the 90s, is a great movie. It's a UFO movie you can buy.

He's coming up next. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having. having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way,

this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you're.

need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam Jay. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick you here. unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill,

waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 was big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack, so I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now, so... Thank you finishing that sentence. Yes.

I don't think there's a more important year for black people. People. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games. And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking, Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of

the thing and we're still chasing it and we don't know when we've done enough. Because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross, because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth or are you a good person because you're afraid? Because that's two different intentions, bro. Absolutely. And that's two different levels of trust. I want you to just really be a good person. Join me, Keel. gains is we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast, Learn the Hardway. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Learn the Hardway and listen now. Well, we feel very lucky from time to time. We get somebody special on the show. He doesn't see

himself as that, but he's one of the great American actors. Absolutely. And he's got a new memoir called Green Lights, which I got about four or five days ago in the mail, and I opened it up. He kept a journal his whole life. I have a friend who did that. Trace Gallagher is my buddy at Fox News, and I've known Trace for 30 years, and he kept a journal and still does, and I've always been jealous of him. I try to keep a journal, yeah, but you have to be very disciplines. Well, of course you do, yes, and Trace is, and I'm not. Some ways I am, you know, I eat right and I work out. Matthew McConaughey Academy Award-winning actor is now joining us live. And it's called Greenlights, by the way. So I will tell you right now of all the things I'm jealous of, it's not the Academy

award and all that stuff. It's that you had the discipline to write a journal, and it's not a typical journal. It's not sad, although there's moments so far of what I've seen. You talk about happiness. And it's not an advice book. This is not what it is. Give people a sense of what this memoir is about because it took a lot of discipline, and I love the way you attacked it to write about it. Well, it's a lot about attack. It's about approach, really, to life. My personal approach approaches that I think everybody can understand in their own lives. You know, green lights, we love green lights in life. They say yes, their freedom. They affirm our way. They say, go, out of boy. More please. Continue. We don't like yellow and red lights in life. They slow us down

or make us stop. And though we don't like red and yellow lights, I've found that a lot of my red and Yellow Lights and Life, those hardships and crises actually gave me what I needed or later on revealed their greenlight assets of lessons I learned from those hard times. So, you know, we can, we can engineer our own Green Lights and Life by choices we make today through responsibility and accountability and delayed gratification. Also, sometimes green lights just land in our lap with good fortune. So what do we do with them when they do? And then other times, it's just about perspective. I can look at a situation differently than you. I may see this. a red light, you may see this as a green light. It's how do we see it? Sometimes a red light

crisis doesn't exist if we just don't even give the damn thing credit. So eventually in the rearview mirror, I do believe that all red and yellow lights do turn green. It's an approach book. You know, it's interesting because in Hollywood, you are rare. You are not cynical. You don't lean all the way left. You're kind of relatable. You love your sports. Your dad was drafted by the Packers. You're kind of a regular guy. In fact, I had years ago, I had a friend that got on a Delta flight with you flying to, you were flying to Austin. He goes, you won't believe who was on my flight tonight. I said, who? He sat next to me, Matthew McConaughey. I said, really? He said, oh, he's just talkative, nice guy. He didn't try to hide. It was a late-night flight.

And that, by the way, and he spoke very highly of you. And it is interesting. You mentioned recently that you, you know, you feel sometimes you get pushback. And it's funny because you've embraced who you are, your sports, your love for Texas. And that's sometimes you feel like an outsider, but yet you're very much an insider. And as I'm kind of rambling here, have you ever sensed that a little bit? You're in the club, but kind of out of the club. Yeah, maybe somewhat. But you know what? Every time I feel like I'm out of the club, I got to be honest with you, Colin, every time I feel like maybe I'm a little bit out of the club, when I go back there, that community and my peers embrace me wholeheartedly. I mean, the one great thing about Hollywood is that you can go out there and be

whoever you want to be. The really tough thing about Hollywood is you can go out there and be whoever the hell you want to be. Too many options can make tyrants of anybody. But that whole industry has overall been great to me. And, you know, I have a lot of good friends out there. I've met some of the most creative and extraordinary people in my life out there. Now, that comes with, you know, some people that have extremely views on to one side of the other that do not agree. I think what I said the other day that you were alluding to when I've talked about my faith, you know, I've seen people, everyone's just out there, there's a game to play. There's a game in Hollywood. Do we do our business in the Hollywood game? I've tried to do my

business in the Hollywood game. I've also tried to play my own game in the business of Hollywood. But overall, that industry's been very kind and embracing of me, Even though, you know, I know not everyone agrees with some of the things that I believe in, I've kept a pretty dog-on-good relationship with them and they have with me. Yeah. You know, we were talking about this, the movies you've done. I loved contact with Jody Foster. Love it.

Oh, God, I loved it. And I have seen a UFO, although I still don't believe in them, but I saw one. Not going to get into it. You know, whatever. Another show? Okay. Yeah. Yeah, no, but I've, Grayland, Washington, I've talked about it, ad nauseum.

Okay, wedding planner, Lincoln lawyer. You love Lincoln lawyer, by the way, Dallas Byers Club, Wolfel Wall Street, Interstellar, which is my daughter's favorite movie. But here's what's interesting. So it's very easy now as an actor to do Netflix and Amazon Prime. It's very easy now because it's lucrative and it's very good. But you had just won the Academy Award six, seven years ago. And you're like, you know what? I'm going to go do True Detective.

It wasn't as, it wasn't as fashionable then. It was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, movie stars don't do that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's what you do. Did your agent don't go to the small screen? That's right. And I thought, did your agent go, hey, Matthew, I want you to take the weekend off, go fly fishing, come back, think about it. Because people seven years ago, Matthew, they were not doing that. No, they weren't.

You bring up a really good point. So at that time, look, I was rolling. I was doing creative work back to back to back and I was ferocious about it. And I was consistent. I was choosing character and story. F the bucks, I don't care. I'm going for the experience. I want to choose a role that's going to make me sweating my boots

in a story that I'm like, can't wait to turn the page. And that's what Rustin Cole and True Detective offered. So I remember considering exactly what you said. Now, wait a minute. No one's, you know, I love the script. My agent loved the script. But we said, this is moving to the small screen. And you're succeeding on the big screen at the highest level.

That's not what actors do. exactly right. But I remember saying, well, the story's there. The character's there. I don't give it to what screen it's on. And my agent, we talked about it for about eight seconds. So there was no weekend of fly fishing. I needed no reset. He agreed. I agreed. We plowed forward. And, you know, that show that we did that Nick Palit Pizzolato created, Carrie Fukinaga directed, myself and Woody did. It is part, it was part of the beginning of the avalanche of so many actors now going to the small stream and how you actually find your best dramas, arguably. on the small screen and limited series now.

The other thing that's fascinating, Matthew McCona is joining us, is Dallas Buyers Club is a remarkable performance. It's an absolutely incredible movie. It's one of those where you're watching it, and you're like, oh, he's going to win the Oscar for this. But it's funny. I've seen De Niro put on weight.

I've seen Christian Bale put on weight. And you're a guy that takes care of your body, in your mind, your soul. That's who you are, okay? And then you made a decision, Yeah, I'm going to lose like 60 pounds and be totally unhealthy. And I thought to myself, you know, everybody just thinks, oh, it's a role, you do it. But you're not your typical actor.

And I remember watching that thinking, well, that's going to take him two years to get back to where you. You can't just eat cheeseburgers and put 50 pounds on that's totally unhealthy. No. So when you made that decision, that was not just an emotional decision. It was a physical decision you made. Did you have some before you made it? Did you sit down and think, man, this is going to take three years of my life. I'm going to have to change three years of my life to do this movie.

No, all I initially thought was, hey, how can I lose all this weight in the most healthy fashion? Meaning, instead of trying to do it in six weeks, I gave myself five months. And I got on a diet where I was losing 2.5 pounds a week like clockwork. Forget the exercise. 2.5 pounds a week like clockwork. Got down to 134. Oh, Lord. Now, it was only after that that I considered the way back.

And I remember hearing stories and talking to a couple of doctors and saying, you can't just go out and start eating your cheeseburgers and rush back because you will grow, you will grow back and put on the weight in more of a deformed way. You have to really walk the dog here. So it did take. Now, mind you, I came out of that. True Detective, I hung out about 165, which was a great sort of younger, sort of light fighting weight for me. and I felt really good.

Then I slowly moved up to the 175 to 180. And then after that, just as I got back to my fighting weight, which is 188, I went and did this film called Gold where I got up to 221, which was a hell of a lot more fun than losing all the weight, I'd tell you. But maybe that's the one I haven't quite recovered from because I got these little things back here on the back right, the back left to me that kind of can hold a little water

if I'm leaning back a little bit, you know? Yeah, no, I get it. It's much easier to bang out cheeseburgers. and milkshakes. That's the easy stuff, right? Oh, yeah. Hang it out with your kids doing that stuff. Matthew McCona, he's joining us. So you have an interesting saying, and you have said, years ago I thought about writing a screenplay,

and I read a book called Save the Cat by Blake Snyder. And he says, name the film before you start writing it. Because everybody that writes a film has a great open and a great close. but those story arcs in the middle you're going to get lost. So go back to what the name of this. You have an idea. You say, I want to see the movie poster. Yes.

So explain your thinking on that. Here we go. And it's a lot of the theme through this book. Okay. I have, you know, sometimes, and I've been decent at it at times my life, you go off the cliff and you figure out how to fly on the way down. Not me. I like to be, I call it conservative, early liberal late, and those are not political terms.

What I mean by what are the rules? Where are we going? What's our direction? Let's pick our general direction we're going. Let's write the headline first, then write our story to get to it. Before a film, I'll sit down with the producers and directors and go, what's the poster look like? Well, if I'm the lead and it's a silhouette of my face taking up the whole poster, I'm like, oh, this is going to be like a really character-driven. The director's going to, he wants a character-driven story here.

Well, if it's a big wide shot and there's me and an army of silhouette, the whets coming up over the mountain. Well, this is going to be more of an epic story-driven picture. But what is that poster? Just to give us a little bit of a North start ahead to. Now, you write that headline. You put that goal in front of you in life and you say, this is where I see myself. Then you write the story to get there. Then you make the movie to get there. The poster changes. The headline changes. But it's usually similar in the similar vernacular to what you were aiming at. And that's what I mean by, I want to see the poster first. I want to write the headline first sometimes and then write the story to get to the headline.

And it gives me just a magic marker out there, a North Star, where we can all agree, this is the album we're making. Meaning like if you and I go to play music, but we need to at least say, are we making a rock album here, jazz album or a country album? You know what I mean? Let's have an idea. Yeah. Matthew McConaughey. The memoir is called Green Lights. I just started a couple of nights ago. Many of you may not know.

You know of his work, obviously. I just name any of the great movies. His dad, Jim McConaughey, was drafted by the Green Bay Packers in the 1953 NFL draft. And I think both of you, you have an appreciation for soccer, which I do. I tried to buy into an MLS team 10 years ago, and I couldn't afford it. You have bought into the Austin team, which is fantastic. Again, there's another thing I'm jealous of. You kept a journal and you bought a soccer team.

Austin FC, which, by the way, I think the MLS is a growing fledgling league. I know owners in it. It's a fantastic. I think they do a tremendous sport. tremendous job. But I want to ask you, you have athletics in your family. And when you take on roles, you can clearly be physical. Has sports, I'm sure it's helped you in your career. But is thinking like an actor and an athlete, has it ever hindered you? Have you ever thought to yourself, I wish I wasn't such a jock. I wasn't such an athlete?

No. I've tried to play, you know, use different. parts of my athletic ability. I'll say this. I think about athletics all the time in the work that I do, meaning preparation. I will out-prepared people. I will out-prepure my competition and have many times. That's where the work comes in. You know this. You did your work before this show. You're not working right now. We're playing. When you're live, when you're in the game, you can play only if you've done the work. So you learn the heady stuff is early. It's like if a team gets a new defensive coordinator, and they're probably not going to be that good if the defense is that complicated the next year because they're thinking about it on the field. And if you got to think about it,

you're a half a step slow and that receiver gets by you touchdown. I don't want to be thinking on the day. I want to be working through my instincts. So I do all my work pregame so I can show up and say, I've got four versions of the truth in this scene. I can call an audible on the go. Don't even yell cut we're live let's go throw at me whatever you want i'm in the game i read the context i know the time on the clock i know what scene i'm in i know where i am in this story i know where i came from i know where i'm going give me whatever you got let's play press record you are currently the and will be the minister of culture for the longhorns basketball and entertainment facility you're a huge longhorn fan i saw you on the sidelines years ago didn't want to bother you USC texas

which remains the greatest football game i have ever seen live in my life me too best game i've ever seen. One of the best dramatic events ever on planet Earth. Hollywood could not have written that script. So I went to that game and I said, give me, I want a ticket. I don't want to sit in the press box. So I said, I want a ticket to the game. And I'm kind of a USC honk out here, but I always like Texas. I was right in the middle of Texas fans. And I've said this before on the air. It was the coolest group of people. They knew they knew they were at Ollie Frazier. Everybody's sitting at that game new. Okay.

This is last. I've never been to a game where everybody, Texas is like, oh, you're the last team we wanted to play. And the USC behind me is like, I don't want to face Vince Young. This is no good. And so you are a Texas fan before that, but it is, can Texas get back to it? Why can't Texas get back? Why are they not there yet?

Why are we not there yet? This is a great question. We could do a whole show on this. Look, it's many different components. I mean, look, everyone goes through cycles, and we're going through a cycle of rebuilding right now. You know, what Tom's come in and a lot of what he has done that we need to continue to do is this alignment of what we expect.

And look, you come to Texas, you know what's expected. If you compete for championships, that's the excellence, that's the bar. You were handed the keys to the Ferrari. Here you go. Drive it. And players and coaches need to understand that. When you get there, that's the expectation. Now, you're going to win a championship every year?

Hell, no, you're not. A lot of things go into a season. Balls have to bounce your way, et cetera. What do we got to get back? I think this. I think we have to, and this is not just a particular problem in Texas, but I do think it is particular Texas. We got to quit playing in the third person.

We have so much media on us. We look at our proverbial jumbotron, because with social media today, who are we, what do we think we are, what's expected, oh, we won, what's the pressure when we lose? No, forget it. We need to throw all that out and say, F all of that. Put it down. We got, let's

put our head down, do the work, stick to the process, look up and be objective about what we're doing when the season's over. And if we put our head down on the process and quit quit thinking about, hey, how are we perceived? I think we get more wins. I think we're back to that place. Now that you have to have

the right people in place to do that. I understand that. But we, we, we, we, we have the personnel. We can get the personnel. We have the players and we can get the players. I think in Texas, part of it is we need to understand, hey, you are under the microscope here more than any else, anywhere else in the nation. Now, do we look at that and go, oh, geez, or do we go, exactly? That's why I'm here. Now let's go. You press record world. Watch us go. We'll look up when the season's over and I bet you we got a whole lot more Dougas. By the way, of all the stuff you've done, green lights, you write a memoir and it's very personal because it's your journal. Was there any point, you know, because this is why I'm jealous of you.

Because I cry a lot. Kids, you know, just stuff. I'm a dad. Like, did it take you back to places? Sometimes I look at my phone because I want to cry. I want to go look at my kids when they were five. Did it take you back to places and you were like, oh my God, I totally. forgot him. And it took you these wonderfully emotional places. You know, I tell a lot of, my dad's essential character in this. And, you know, the book is actually two, in the beginning it says this book is two. The only thing I ever knew I wanted to be and family. And the only thing I ever knew I wanted to be was a father. And a lot is based on because of who my dad was to me. You know, my father moved on in 93. And I've done a decent job of

keeping his spirit alive and me and continuing conversations with him through my life and trying to share things with him spiritually. But I went back and retold some of the early stories and looked at the diaries of things I was writing as a kid when he was still alive and sometimes we had. And so going in and remembering some of the details of the way he loved me, the way he loved my mother, the way he loved our family, the values that he tried instilled in us, the way where sometimes where I maybe thought it was unfair, but in retrospect looked at and go, oh, no, he was really trying.

You go back, you know, and we lose a loved one and our father, and you see that there's a gap between the message and the messenger. Right. And you go, but, and I remember being angry about that gap and going, wait a minute, you didn't really do that, but that's what you taught me. And then I noticed through the diaries that, oh, then I forgave him for that. And then I also said, well, just because maybe he didn't,

the messenger didn't act out on the messages, he was giving you, Matthew, doesn't mean that the message wasn't good. So you can still double down that. He wanted you to be a little bit better, a little more evolved, a little bit better of a man, and maybe even a better father. So when I went back in those places, I shed quite a few tears seeing my dad how he loved me, my brothers, our family, and his wife, my mother. And saw how it was hard sometimes. And so, or maybe he didn't live up to what he was teaching, but he damn sure, minute and I appreciate it in a different way when I went back and looked at it. By the way, I have to ask you about this because my daughter Olivia watched Interstellar about a

month ago and she told me it's the best movie she's ever seen and I said, Olivia, it's very complicated. And during the break before I had you on, I told you and what did you say about how complicated it was? I said, I'm going to give you my number. Olivia, call me so you can explain it to me. It's a very complex movie. She literally talked to me, she called me four times about it. Dad, you just can't believe this thing. It's so great.

And I'm like, okay, I'll get to it. I've watched like seven of his movies. Just give me time on Interstellar. Matthew, it's been an absolute pleasure. The memoir is called Green Lights. I hope to see you at a Texas football game because I love the program. I love what it stands for. And I'm really rooting for Tom Herman.

You're a busy, busy man. Put that book up one more time. Matthew, thank you so much for coming on our show today. Colin, thank you. look forward to seeing next time in person, cook them this Saturday. Let's go get them. All long horn games are big games. Great stuff.

Thanks, man. Oh, no. Good stuff. That was fun. It's tremendous. I'm going to get the book now. Yeah, I just think it takes, when I read it, I thought, God, he just gets, I do this with my phone. I probably about once, twice a month, I'll just go to my phone.

And it just takes me to places with my late mom. And it takes me to places with my kids. And I'm like, it makes me happy. I'm like, oh, my God, we had so much fun that day. I think a lot of people have done that, especially in 2020. You used to just have one picture of your grandpa. You know, like now you've got like 1,400. I have to delete some.

My eye cloud, I've got to shrink it. So, I mean, it's just, we just live in a different time now. But I think when you keep a journal, I've always been, my friend Trace, I've always been a little jealous of that. I'm like, boy, you get to go back and really re-experience some amazing times. And you know what? It's my theory on this in life. It's never as bad as you thought and it's never as good as you thought. that most of life is a five and a half or a four and a half, maybe a six and a half and a five.

It's not a lot of tens, not a lot of ones. Obviously, there are some. Well, we romanticize the past a lot. Oh, kind of? A little bit. Especially in sports. People say it all the time, oh, the good old days. And I'm like, you do remember you used to get like two NFL games on television.

I go home on Sundays now. I got the Red Zone channel. I got the Fox game. I got the CB. I can just watch every single game. Well, I think it's because, you know, when you're younger, everything seems bigger and you're attached to it and it's like memories and you're right. You don't remember everything else that was happening around it. Like the house I grew up in, I thought was massive.

I go back now, it's not, it was not massive. It was not a big house at all. But yeah, because you're little. So like everything seems different. As a kid, I went to the Dals, Oregon, my dad's brother, both optometrist and he used to go to his office and I'd play with the glasses and we go up to his house. and I have memory after memory after memory of being in the backyard of their house. I went to it about 10 years ago.

It's about as big as this screen in front of me. And I think it made me kind of sad. I'm like, I thought I had such a great childhood. You did, because you don't need a lot. I was playing a little time. That's why when you get the kids everything for Christmas, they play with the box. God.

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