The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 11/12/2020 - HOUR 3 - Upsets

Episode Date: November 12, 2020

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If you go to carsheel.com, code heard today. Deductible may apply. Good to have you in. Chris Cooley played for almost a decade in the NFL. He's the all-time leader. Catches for the Washington football team. And they've had a lot of good ones. A lot of good ones.

And it was a pro bowler, multiple-time pro-boulder. Did some radio TV. He is now retired. with his family in one of the most beautiful and undiscussed states in America, Wyoming, and he is joining us now live. So it's interesting. I want to talk to you. I want to start with NFC East quarterbacks because they're often discussed.

So I'll just, I'll give you the quarterback and you tell me, Chris, future, you'd pay him, you like him. Let's start with Daniel Jones. What do you see as a guy that played in this league for a decade with Daniel Jones today? you're the coach of the gym. What is he? I think he's Eli Manning with a little bit more athletic ability.

There's some things that I really like about Daniel Jones. One, there's some toughness. The guy will take shots in the pocket. He'll make competitive throws and he'll fight. He can move. He can make throws on the run. But he's a guy that isn't devoid of weapons. They've had some injuries throughout this year.

But he's also a guy that I haven't seen that true spark from. And it's funny, you say that, But then you go, look at Justin Herbert and look at all these young quarterbacks. Look at Tyler Murray. Daniel Jones is just not a spark quarterback for me. So oddly enough, in New York, he's Eli Manning. Yeah. DAC, what do you do with him?

What do you see? I pay DAC. Dak's a guy that I've seen develop over the last five seasons. I think he's a true leader. I think he's beloved by everybody in that organization, including all of the fans. And I think he's really become a very good quarterback. You look at Dak, who was really basic with Jason Garrett in his first few years,

ended up evolving. They get weapons around him. In his first year in McCarthy's offense, which this team has been bad, that team has been bad, but Dak excelled, made big play after big play, brought him back from some huge deficits. He's a guy that I think you have to have loyalty to. And when you pay a guy like that, it starts to set a standard. Now, the one thing, Colin, that gets tough is, can you surround your quarterback with the type of weapons

when you start talking about a cap number that's like 14, 15, 16% of your cap, which is what they're going to have to pay him. I've heard all the talk that if he had a huge season in this franchise year, he would have dictated a ton of money. He did. Five games was enough, I think, for people to see. Anyone will pay that. All right.

Let's go to Carson Wentz. I like him injury prone. What do you think of him? I think Carson Wentz is one of those interesting guys that maybe isn't a good fit for Philadelphia. To me, it seems like there's been issues with Wentz since he went down and Foles came in, going back to that next year

where they had the giant billboard of Nick Foles and you could tell it hurt Carson Wences's feelings. He's a guy that's an incredible playmaker. Wence is a guy that can do anything you want him to do. He'll extend plays. He's great off script. He can make. every throw in the football field, but at the same time, he's a guy that makes a ton of

mistakes, and like you mentioned, he's a guy that ends up injured all the time. So I think that you really have a question mark on what you want to do with Carson Wentz in the future. Someone will pay him because he's an outstanding talent. But I don't know if the fit's perfect in Philadelphia. I've never heard anybody say that. That is interesting. And by the way, with his injuries, Howie Roseman would probably at this point take phone calls. If somebody he was interested, Howie would probably take a phone call. Okay, now let's go to Washington. You're going to have a top six pick. They're going to take a quarterback, right? You'd think that they're going to take a quarterback. I don't think that Dwayne Haskins is the future

there. It's hard when you have two staffs. And you can say whatever you wanted to say about the previous staff with Gruden and the Allen administration. But when you bring in a new staff in Rivera, who's really respected around the league, and Dwayne makes it five games. And now there's rumblings that it's not good in the week of practice and that he's not where they need to be. And it's a huge, it's a huge project. I think that's hard for a team with a young offensive coordinator and Scott Turner in his first year, trying to establish identity, trying to install in meetings and say, this is what we want to be. But then you have Duane that maybe isn't executing throughout the week in that fashion.

It was a big gamble, I thought, taking Haskins when they took him a year ago. A lot of people liked him, but a lot of people weren't quite sure based on. one year at Ohio State with tremendous weapons and so many yards after the catch, my guess would be that they would move on from Duane. For them, I'm sure they're hoping to have some trade value in him. I'm sure they shopped him around the trade deadline and didn't get what they wanted. Maybe they will in this off season, but there's also four or five young guys coming up. So Duane will be interesting how they handle that situation.

Chris Cooney. I would guess you draft a guy, Colin. Yeah, no. But then you're looking at, is Alex Smith going to sit here again and be, Patrick Mahomes number two for one more year in Washington, which I love for a young quarterback

at times to let him learn behind a guy like Alex. Alex is as good of a guy as it gets, a good of a teammate as it gets. He's a tremendous leader. He's a student of the game. He knows how to prepare and do everything the right way.

I don't know if Alex is a top 20 quarterback at this point in his career, but he's a guy that you can plug and play if he's healthy. Now I'm going to throw a couple quarterbacks at you. a fascinating one, being around Washington. So Lamar Jackson is 25 and 2 in his career when he doesn't face Patrick Mahomes.

I just watched him against the Colts defense, and he ate it up in the second half, and that's a really good defense. And I know, like Baker Mayfield can hurt Cleveland. Philip Rivers can hurt the Colts. I watch Lamar, and I'm like, he's imperfect. But God, he started 30 games, he's won 25. I watched him in the second half against the Colts. They couldn't stop him.

Like, have we gotten to a point where, okay, he's not Patrick Mahal's. He's healthy. He's dynamic. He wins a ton. He's harder to defend. I just, I keep hearing everybody moving off. I think he's twice the quarterback of Kaepernick. What do you make of Lamar?

So I think when Lamar came out and there was questions about what he was going to be, I said, I'd take him number one overall if he'd do whatever I wanted. I said he'd be the best running back in the NFL. And he probably would have coming out of that draft or the best running back in that draft. I, he's not Patrick Mahomes. And I think Baltimore, to some extent at this point in his career, has to be a frontrunner type of team where they get out to leads early in games. Yeah. But when they're in balance with that offense, what Greg Roman does with that offense is absolutely outstanding.

The way they run the football, the way they balance the run action pass and some of the past game stuff with it is tremendous. Lamar makes plays in third down situations throughout the year where he can make some big throws. he can also be the essentially be the checkdown and be the scrambling quarterback that's going to get you those yards. I would love to have Lamar Jackson be my quarterback. You're just going to develop an offense

that isn't Kansas City's offense. And that's essentially what Greg Roman did. Yeah, no, you fall where I do. All I know is he's got a superpower. If you got a superpower as a quarterback, Josh Allen's arm, Kyler Murray scramm, if you have a superpower and you don't get hurt, I'll figure it out.

It's up to me as a coach to figure out how to use you. Now let's go to a guy that I used to like, but I'm out on because he's hurt too much and doesn't have a superpower, Jimmy Garapolo. Where do you land with him? What do you think the Niners do? I think the Niners are going to move on from Garopolo at the end of the year. They're going to have a huge cap savings at the end of the year, some like $20 million if they move on from Garapolo. Now, I spent a lot of time around the Shanahan's and Kyle. I think he's an outstanding coach. I think he coaches quarterbacks as well as anybody.

And I've actually heard they love Garapolo as a dude. they're not sure about what Garoppolo is as a player. And when I watch Jimmy Collin, I see a guy that I think is a slow post-snap diagnosed quarterback. Doesn't necessarily see defense really well once the ball's in his hands. I think he's got a lightning quick release. And there's a lot of instances where it looks like throws are on time and he's clicking on all cylinders.

But I think some of it's just the balls out of his hand so quick, even though he's late with his decision-making process. to me, Jimmy's another one of those guys that's also hurt all the time. And so now you're sitting here saying, do we go to C.J. Bethard or do we go to Nick Mullins or what direction do we go in the situation? I think Kyle wants a guy that he can truly stand behind as a quarterback. I'll be interested where they do go. You know, I don't know if he wants a rookie quarterback in San Francisco. Do they go out and try to trade for Cousins?

That's almost impossible because Kirk Cousins has so much dead money at the end of the year. A year later, they possibly could. I looked around. There's a few guys out there that you could possibly sign, but there's no sure thing for San Francisco. Maybe they do draft, but I'll bet you they don't have Jimmy Carapola. Are you surprised that Burrow and Herbert and Tua with no preseason are this effective? I'm kind of shocked by Herbert.

I'm shocked by it. Are you? I would say I'm a little bit shocked by Herbert. I think the prototypical quarterback stuff has been there. Everybody saw that. He's a big, tall guy that can move incredibly well, that makes a ton of throws that did a heck of a job at Oregon. I think some of the question marks were, can he really dictate and demand the huddle? Can he really manage the line of scrimmage in the NFL? And, man, he's been so much fun to watch. I'm not surprised at all with Burrow. I mean, what they did at

LSU and what was an NFL style offense, I think was awesome. What he showed last year was outstanding. I think he's every bit the ideal quarterback from what he is in the media and what he says to his teammates to how he delivers on the field. He's a guy that they're going to love having in Cincinnati. And then two is, he was fun to watch a week ago. Yeah. You know, that was interesting. It kind of came out in Miami that they have to find out what they have in their quarterback. And then it was walked back a little bit, but I don't disagree with that. You know, Fitzpatrick's not going to be the guy forever. They're a good football team right now.

There's some more to find out on what two is going to be in Miami. One really slow game and one pretty outstanding game last week. Yeah. They also have a defense that scores about every game. Yeah. So they don't get as many possessions. You know, it's funny. Joey and I talk about this.

Jason Taylor was her brother, obviously, the Hall of Fame. We talk about this all the time, is that well-coached teams, they don't always win, but they get better. Like I think the Giants right now with Joe Judge, they're getting better. every week. And I'm like, okay, that's well, they don't have to win games because they don't, they don't have a lot of weapons offensively. And I can watch a team. Like Miami last year at the end of the year, Chris, I was like, they're not great, but they won five of their last nine games. And I watched them. I actually think Joe Judge and Brian Forres, and I know it's early, right?

I almost feel like, okay, this works. Like when you watch, can you tell quickly, okay, players buy in, players don't. I'm I jump in the gun on Joe, Judge and Brian Flores. or do you think it works? I think you develop a culture and a standard for what you want your team to be, and then you start to get the type of guys that are going to buy into that team. There are guys. Logan Ryan, a week ago, Joe Judge said, go take care of your wife. And Logan Ryan is so complimentary.

And then a week later, he tells Golden Tate, get the hell out because you're begging for balls, so you're not even going to come to the game. Right. I like that he's sure in himself. I like that he's sure of his belief of the direction he wants to take that team. And I'm with you. I don't think New York is a terrible football team. They've lost a lot of close ball games this year.

By no means are they a playoff contender other than it's the NFC East. Right. But they're not going to win games in the playoffs. That said, Judge is building something there, and I think he's a very good coach. Yeah. No, I do too. All right, Chris, Chris in beautiful Wyoming. I hope you're a skier.

Are your kid skiers? Are you a skier? I was a skier. had that don't want to get injured to pay back your guaranteed money clause. You know you've got to pay all that guaranteed money back, like, pre-tax, if you get hurt skiing. So I didn't want to do that. Well, you played football at Utah State, so I know you skied in high school, right? I skied in high school.

I skied in college a lot as well. Yeah. Utah, good skiing. Yeah, a lot of good skiing. Good seeing. Good talking to you again, bud. Good seeing you. Good talking to you.

Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. You bet. Chris Cooley, moved his family to Wyoming. which is a, I keep trying to talk my wife into that. She's never been there. I'm like, it's amazing. It's a state that you don't.

I've heard it's beautiful. I've always wanted to go to Wyoming. Well, it's surrounded by Utah, which is easier for people in California to get to. So they just go there. But you can drive a car from where I have a place in Park City to Wyoming. You know, it takes you an hour. Have you ever driven across the country? I once drove across Connecticut.

No, I've never done that before. Me either. I don't think it's on my list. Well, I used to go, so I used to go to college in Eastern Washington University. So I grew up in the west. I grew up on the beach on the west coast, the dreary, rainy beach, which I love, very idyllic childhood, you know, motorbikes on the beach, high school basketball, football, loved it.

Loved my childhood. And then I went on the exact opposite side of the state, the Poulouse, which is hot and wheat fields, and I love that. So I kind of like that high desert. So I would drive every year. Now, that sounds like nothing, but Washington's a big steak. That was a five and a half hour drive. And in the winter, it snowed.

And I was treacherous. I'd be there putting on chains and stuff. So that's the big drives in my. And I did drive one time. I told you about my big scary drive. I drove out of college from Anna Cordes, Washington. That was my girlfriend, to Las Vegas. So I had a-

How many hours was that? It was three days. So I went from Anacortis, Washington, down to Medford, Oregon, was one day. day and med no it was two day drive and then i went from medford no to bakersfield kern county stopped there and then bakersfield to vegas i was um accosted in uh kern county and bakerfield by the laundry room i had eight hundred dollars to my name in a green and gray baseball jacket and i kept the money here right here that means nothing to the radio audience in my kind of stomach eight hundred dollars to my name no cell phones back then eight hundred dollars to my name

guys in bandanas came up, tough guys, facial hair guys, and they came up to me and they said, you got any money and cornered me. And I went in my pocket and I had like $10 and I gave it to them. I said, that's all I got. And I got quarters and they walked away. If I give them that, I don't know what I do. I don't even know what I do.

Oh, well, I guess you're lucky they didn't decide you had more. That's the kind of hard scrabble life I have lived. You have facial hair now. So what is that saying about you? I'm one of those guys. I can accussed people at a laundry room in Fresno, California, or wherever it was. Bakerfield. I've driven from Pittsburgh to Miami several times. That's a long drive.

That's about, that's about... It's 24 hours if you don't stop. Oh, you stop, though, right? No. You don't stop. Why don't you stop in West Virginia and have a hamburger or something? Well, I'm definitely not stopping in West Virginia. West Virginia on that drive is a place you drive the speed limit the entire way.

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now. All right, Joy Taylor with the news. No, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herd Line News. The Masters began this morning. It did. It was raining. It was raining a lot. Tiger Woods is looking to defend his 2019 championship.

He had an unforgettable victory at Augusta last year, and he says he still gets emotional thinking about it. Oh, I love that. I mean, I'm still getting chills to just think about it. When I walked off the back of the green, you know, to see Charlie there and just open up our arms, and it meant a lot to me, and it still does. And it just brought me so much of me and my dad.

And to come full circle like that, it still gives me a little teary. That's my second favorite. Two moments in Tiger's career. The U.S. Open at Pebble Beach when he beat Rocco Mediate, and he was just hitting bombs. Remember that? They went to a playoff or something?

Oh, it was the U.S. Open. My bad. And it was the craziest, craziest thing. And then that. I was emotional watching that. I don't know who didn't cry watching that. It was my second favorite. The U.S. Open for Tiger was,

it was like the Phoenix Open, but the U.S. I mean, crowd was going crazy. You couldn't even, you were just screaming at the television. Well, he said the, he definitely thought the fans helped him last year, so it's going to be a stark contrast without them this year. He is currently four under through 13. The leader is Paul Casey, who is seven under. But yeah, it's going to be different without the fans.

You know, you know what's funny? A big experience. What's really cool about Tiger, we root for him differently. He was the favorite, and he used to turn some people off because he would, you know, swear and throw clubs. Now, everybody's in on Tiger. The whole galleries are. Yeah, you know, it's an American thing. We have to, you know, we build our stars up, and then we got to tear them all down.

And then we got to build them back up again. I don't know why we can't just let people be great. But don't get me started on the Tiger Woods story. I thought it was the most hypocritical, ridiculous reaction to anything that's ever happened with a star in the history of superstars. We don't have enough time for it. Oh, I know. I spent months defending it. I'm glad that Tiger is back.

So Mike Evans is one of the best receivers in the league, but he and Tom Brady aren't connecting as much as they would have thought. Evans has only been targeted 52 times through nine games, which is on pace through the fewest targets of any season in his career. So let's add AB. So Buck's receiver coach Kevin Garner says he isn't concerned, saying there's only one football and Brady does a great job distributing it. Of the Buck's past catchers with at least 150 routes this run this season,

Evans has the lowest target rate at 16% according to next-time stats. And that's with OJ Howard out and Chris Godwin hurt. So they lost their best tight end. Their number two receivers hurt and it's the fewest targets. How about we develop a relationship with him and not worry about A-B? Last week, first three series, they're forcing the ball to A-B. Like, stop. Stop back.

I mean, those numbers to tell you, like, this is obviously a big difference. Mike Evans is the second best wide receiver he's ever had behind Rannie Moss. get him the ball 12 targets eight catches minimum every Sunday it's very obvious that it's not happening last week Daniel Jones didn't have a turnover for only the second time in his career and the Giants got the win but with only

three second half points he was criticized for not being aggressive enough and head coach Joe Judge strongly disagrees with that assessment and defended his quarterback's play I see a lot of aggressiveness in Daniel and I like the way he plays and the team rallies around him right there you know when it comes time to take our shots we'll take our shots offensively and sometimes we had

be a little more calculated, about how we want to systematically move the ball down the field. You have to have a good balance of both within a game plan. You know, that being said, look, I think Daniel's a developing player. I think he's showing a lot of problems. He's making a lot of gains this year. You know what I like about the Giants? As impatient as we are about the quarterback position now, they're not being impatient with Daniel Jones. Yeah, it makes some mistakes.

Just let them keep developing. The fascinating team. They really are. I'm going to take the Giants to upset the Eagles this week. Goulet, put that my blaze in five picks. It's my 13th pick I've given John. You've been giving picks all day. Well, I always give him a lot of picks on Tuesday and Wednesday.

I give John picks, and then I do. Then I narrow it down all week until Friday morning I've got fun. No, no, no, no. Hold on you skip the step. You give me picks. Then you add all the other games, and then on Friday morning you narrow it back down. Okay, give me the Giants over the Eagles 2824 outright. Don't forget the games you also had, but then you switch which team you're picking.

Our researchers go crazy because they have to find stuff on both sides. I love Seattle Monday. I like the Rams today. Listen, it's called research. I'm like a scientist. It's a process. When you get new photosynthesis information in, you've got to change your pick. Are we done?

Yes. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The herd line news. You know, you fans always complain about me. Can I complain about you? When I get new information, I change my mind.

mind. Always. You're allowed to do that. New fun fact. You already had that pick in. I like the Giants over the Eagles. So what's my score that I gave you yesterday? 2321. Yeah, that's good. I like both defensive lines. So if Fandreau is complaining about me and I'm over it. I'm complaining about you. I changed my mind. You need to deal with it. This switch up here is just full of information. It's processing. It's like a blender of genius. It's going a million miles an hour up here. Sometimes it just comes up with a new protein shake. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific.

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Good to have you back in today. It's an interesting week in the NFL. It's so funny. I was talking to a buddy of mine who bets for a living. That's what he does. That's big sums of money. And he said, it's just one of those weeks where nobody is as good as they were last week. He goes, Tampa Bay, mark my words, will play really well.

The Saints won't play well. And the Buffalo Bills will not look like that. And the Seattle Seahawks will not look like that. So it's going to be one of those weeks where in the NFL, it's not college, where Alabama gives you the same performance almost every week. in the NFL, rarely do you give, if especially a good team plays great, they never do the next week. I mean, the Pittsburgh Steelers went through these emotional games, then almost lost to Dallas. Like, one of the more consistent teams actually in the league is Miami. I know what I get, I've watched Miami every week this year and then watch them a lot.

Like maybe not every snap, but on them, one of my TVs, Miami, because they're led by defense, gives you the same performance every week. If you're led by offense, you know, sometimes you have like Brady. They're led by offense, right? You think, well, they get an offensive lineman hurt. They can't protect. Brady's awful. But watch this week.

I got upsets. I got the Giants, the underdog is going to beat Philadelphia. Watch San Francisco give the Saints a handful. Watch the 49ers give the Saints trouble. Cincinnati at Pittsburgh. I don't know about that. Pittsburgh was so bad last week. They'll probably bounce back because they got,

you know, Mike Tomlin. Well, Ben's on the COVID list, though, too, this week. Has Pittsburgh got a... He has to test negative, I believe, every test for the rest of the week. Tomlin does? He's not going to be around. Ben, Big Ben. Oh, did he get...

No, it was a proximity thing, but, you know, he's not allowed in the building. I would be more concerned if it wasn't the Bengals that they were going up against this weekend, but it is something that I had a friend, my buddy Eric, I finally have a friend who got COVID. not like I was rooting for it. I mean, it's just finally, it's, I finally had a friend. I'm like, oh, I got a friend that has it. He's in the best shape of any friend I have had to go to the hospital.

Knocked him out. His wife is sick. He was off his feet. And he is a 45-year-old guy with an eight-pack. He's a volleyball player. Like, he is a, I've never seen anybody in his kind of shape. A lot of it's just genetics, but he works out, surfer on his butt in a hospital.

Knocked him out. It's very real. Yeah, it's not a. bleach is not effective. It's not a hoax. What's happened in America is we're all getting very casual. Not all of us, but a lot of people are getting casual because, you know, there's a fatigue to anything. Like people are exhausted, you know, I hate wearing my mask.

I wear it all day. I hate it. There's nothing I like about it. It's nothing I like. Even when I go running, I put it around my chin in case I see an old couple. Like, I hate it. But it's the winter and the flu season with COVID. It's just we got to get through this thing.

The vaccine is going to be available. They stay in the spring for people in the medical profession and older people. people. It'll be available in December, January. We're almost there. We're getting close, but it's a pain in the butt. Yeah. I mean, I don't love wearing a mask either, but I'm going to do it until we get a vaccine. And then probably afterwards as well until they tell us we don't have to. Yesterday, I was wearing it in the car. And I thought to myself, oh God. Sometimes I just forget, because I like get in the car and I start doing stuff. That's what I can tell that it's becoming part of my life. I was in the car yesterday in a 50-minute drive.

And I was like, what do you wearing your mask for? And I'm like, oh, it's become my life. When I watch shows where they don't have it on, I think it's weird now. I'm like, I can't take this seriously. They're not wearing masks. That's right. It's becomes normal. Well, I mean, it's almost like in the movies and in TV shows, if you don't have people staring at their phones, that's not real life.

You cannot have a restaurant scene in a restaurant. Everybody's looking at their phone. Otherwise, you're trying to do in 1980 sensibility with a 2020. if you do a restaurant scene in any movie, everybody's looking at their phone or I don't believe your movie. Everyone's talking and having conversations. That doesn't happen. I try to put my phone away when I go to a restaurant.

I do with my wife. That's the rule. That's right. That's why you can't watch games on your phone. Nope. Eye contact. Say nice stuff. Maybe at the end of the night gives me a hug.

I mean, that's the game. You've got to play. I understand. Marriage. Still a game. It's all a big game. Big amusement park. All right.

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