The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 11/13/2020 - HOUR 3 - Early success

Episode Date: November 13, 2020

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His is already a bestseller. It hasn't been released yet, but I know because he told me how many he sold, so it's guaranteed to be a bestseller. His name is Emmanuel Ocho, three NFL seasons. Brother played as well. He was a first team all big 12 linebacker at Texas. The book is Uncomfortable Conversations with a Black Man, Emmanuel Ocho. And so I watched your conversations with Roger Goodell and Matthew McCona. Hey, and we were saying something during the break.

It's, it's, I think John Lewis, the late John Lewis said this. It's a great line. And I've thought about this before. In life, it's not what you say. It's how it's heard. Exactly. And so when I watched your conversations, it wasn't what you always said, but as a white 55-year-old guy, it was how it landed for me.

You weren't judgmental. I don't know if you wanted it to land that way, but I thought, oh, this stuff lands right. He's not preaching. He's not lecturing. He's telling me, hey, man, this is the way. And so my first thing is a compliment into, you have a way of making stuff land that is uncomfortable, yet I was never uncomfortable listening to it. That was the irony. I was like, oh, this is really, I'm a curious guy. So when you wrote the book, did you think you'd get, it's been wholly embraced. Did you think you'd get pushback? You're always cognizant of potentially getting pushback and that's why I'm very cognizant of every word I say and putting the right emphasis on the

right syllable, right? Because you have to know exactly what you're saying and how you're saying it. You've said, and this is the second time I've heard it. Oprah actually, Colin, was the first person to say it, saying that I have a way of delivering hard information, but it doesn't come off as hard. Softly. I don't really know how I'm doing what I'm doing. I'm just trying to deliver truth with grace and with love because I think that's what we need more of in this world is hard truths, but they have to be embodied and packaged with grace. Otherwise, they're too harsh for somebody to receive. You've used the line, guilt doesn't cause somebody to change. Love does. So being, you know, I tell my liberal friends this. Your message, your messaging's bad. You're being condescending.

You can get along with conservatives. Don't always tell us how smart you are. So in your book, you never come across as preach you. It's like, listen, I'm going to tell you my life experience. And I want to talk about Oprah, because people often ask me in my life, who's your role model? And I've said Oprah. They're like not sports guys. I'm like, no, Howard Stern and Oprah own their own brand. That's the goal to control it. Is Oprah obviously smart? But after talking to Oprah, what's your takeaway on her vision and her? It's funny because we did a Zoom call for an hour. Maybe it was two days ago. And the thing that sticks out with me most is the first question she asked me. I hop on a face time after the first episode I did, uncomfortable conversations with a black man. It gets 25 million

views in four days. And I got a call from Oprah's assistant. She says, hey, Oprah wants to talk to you. The first question Oprah asked me, Colin, what is your intention? She said, what's your intention? Because your intention, it guides your direction. Right. And so when she asked me what my intention was, I said my intention is to change the world, be a bridge for racial reconciliation, and I think I can do that. The biggest thing when I talk to Oprah, which guides my direction of all my conversations is, Emmanuel, what's your intention and stay true to your intention? Don't worry about clicks, don't worry about likes, don't worry about follows, don't worry about shares, stay true to your intention and stay true to the messaging. I think that's what she does best.

Yes. And that's what I borrow most from her. Are you hopeful? That's a great question. Colin, I got a email from a 70-year-old woman named Lynn. It was after the first episode of uncomfortable conversations with a black man. She's a white woman, grew up in rural Alabama in the 1940s or 50s. She said, Emmanuel, I grew up, I didn't go to school with any quote-unquote Negroes. I grew up. I didn't go to school with any quote-unquote Negroes. I grew up in rural Alabama and I was very prejudiced, she says, in so many words. She said, but after watching your episode, I realized I can still change. Please don't give up on me yet.

I love you, my son and my brother. Almost brought tears to my eyes, but it's nearly impossible not to be hopeful when you see something like that. What I realize, Colin, is there's great intentions. Black people and white people, we want to get along, but there's a fracture on how. There's a communication barrier, Colin. and there's a communication, color, and culture disconnect. And that's the real problem at hand. Culture's fascinating because when I was growing up, there wasn't a black middle class.

I think Bill Clinton's presidency was the first time I remember reading about a black middle class because of some legislative changes. And yet your life, from what I've read, you probably feel fortunate. I went through eight divorces as a kid, but I feel fortunate, right? Because I had a loving mother and a smart father. I want to talk about culturally. Are we this dissimilar? You want to be love and loved. You want to be successful.

You want to realize your dreams. How dissimilar are we? You and me, black and white, are we really that dissimilar? There are cultural realizations, right? I would say it like this. if you were to walk into the grocery store and you were to walk down the produce aisle, you would see a bunch of fruits. And they are all fruit.

So they have that in common. But they have different shapes, different sizes, different tastes, different textures. And so while at our core, we all have our humanity in common. That's what I'm talking about. I understand the difference between being white and black. I want to state that. I get that. But at our core.

And our core were the same. But if the core is expressed differently, then we can never get. to the core. You know what I mean? Like, Colin, that's part of the problem, is if we can never get to the core because of the exterior, the psychological differences, then we'll never get to the shared humanity. So when I ask that, I sound like a stupid old guy, when I say, what are our differences? What I'm talking about is today, 2020, November, what is the day, 8th, 9, 10th, 11th. I've always had this theory is that people, and I, we know the country's past, but mostly, Joy and I root for the same thing. We laugh at the same thing. We cry at the same stuff. And I think sometimes we do

such a poor job, our media does a poor job, our politicians, that we're all, we're so powerful when we're unified. And we're so rarely unified. It's frustrating to me. Politics makes me angry. I don't like being angry. I think you get more, I see it, and it's just not a Trump thing. It's just a political thing is that I think I'm I get I get off my phone sometimes I am angry at our public figures using our divisiveness because you know that we see it it does it frustrate you it does but this is a sports show so let's talk sports why aren't we unified in a locker room people have different races people have different religions people have different orientations but they're all unified Colin because they have the same common enemy therefore they have the same

common goal. Dallas Cowboys, Common Enemy, Philadelphia Eagles, let's go out there and win that game. The problem in our society, Colin, is we don't all have the same common enemy. See, people think that it's black versus white. It's man versus woman when it's really oppressed versus oppressor. It's really hate versus evil. It's really good versus evil, love versus hate. So when I think about the cause, when I think about the effect, Colin, I'm really looking at the cause. And what's the cause is we're not on the same page of what the common enemy is. So rather than you and I working together to defeat the enemy, you and I are bickering. And we can't defeat the enemy if we're bickering inside the locker room.

Yeah. I know this is heady stuff and it's not real sportsy, but it's the stuff in this book that fascinates me. It's why I'm going to read it when I fly to Vegas today. The Vegas. Listen, I talk sports all day. I don't get smart people that don't want to talk sports. Like so when I get somebody, this is what to, all the questions I was supposed to ask you

at the end, I just moved up. Because that's all the stuff that's all the stuff that interests me. Nothing against the Colts Titans, okay? We can talk about that all day long. It was kind of boring. I don't get your time because we're both busy, right? And on COVID, we can't be around each other. So this is all the stuff that interests me.

This is stuff Joy and I talk about in the makeup room. We never talk sports. We talk about life and stuff, and this stuff to me is. Well, here's what I think. I think your book makes me think about race. And I don't get defensive and I don't get angry. And I don't think many people deliver it like you. And that's why I think it's so important.

I think it's so important your message. Your message is obviously important. But the way you delivered is very unique. And that's why I like you and I like your stuff because you're striving for that. And I don't want to sound like Oprah, but that's what you're striving for. A lot of people aren't honesty brokers in that space. That's all I'll say. Colin, my freshman year at the University of Texas, I'm coming from a private school, predominantly white.

So the players I was playing with were undersized. I was typically the biggest. Now I'm going to the University of Texas. Had defensive coordinator at the time calling Will Must Chan, current head coach of South Carolina. He's known for punching a board so hard that the rebound of his fist cut his face in half. Like that's Will Must Jam. And he said this the first day, he said, Acho.

He said, listen to the message, not the tone. What's that even mean? He was so just verbally crazy that I have to try to pick apart what he was saying because the tone was too harsh. And I realized, ah, that didn't necessarily work for me. Because some people can't just listen to the message and not the tone. So rather than making the reader do more work, Colin, I said, let me try to package the message in a softer tone as well.

And that's what I did in uncomfortable conversations with a black man. And that's what I did in the book, along with the show. Because the people are at the table, Colin, ready to be delivered a meal. I just happened to be delivering the meal. I happen to be the chef of this. one of the chefs towards racial reconciliation, not the only. By the way, when you first did this, when you first, the genesis of this, the day, the moment, the epiphany, when you're like, okay, I'm going to do it and I'm going to call it this.

Where were you? What was the drive? You wake up. You dream about it. Like, where did this all start? That is a question. After the murder of George Floyd, I said, man, I have to do something. I said, I'm a sports analyst.

But before I'm a sports analyst, Colin, I'm a black man. But before the world even saw me as a black man, I'm a huge. human being. So it's my job to positively contribute to society, leave the world better than when I when I got here. Colin, I originally was going to call it questions white people have. True story. I was going to call it questions white people have. I was going to get three black people at a table, three white people at a table, sit at this round table, Colin. The white people will reach into the fishbowl pull out a question. They will ask it. The black people will answer. But we're in the middle of COVID, so I couldn't get anybody together. And so I said,

uh-oh, I got to change this up. I said timing is of the essence. You know that at sports. Everything is of the essence. I said, okay, I'll change the name to uncomfortable conversations with a black man. I'll do it myself. The first episode I was supposed to do it with a friend, she had a change of heart. So I was never supposed to do the first episode by myself. First episode calling him in an all-white room, staring into the lens of a camera. It was supposed to be uncomfortable conversations with a black man, not uncomfortable monologue

with the black man. So why am I sitting there by myself? I never wanted to be. And that's just how it came. I say there's a difference between your career and your calling. Career is what you're paid for. Calling is what you're made for. This I found out is my calling.

It called me. I just happened to pick up. That's really well said. I'm not really interested in the sports questions. And I say that respectfully. Are you worried about Brady in the box? Oh, who the hell cares? I mean, seriously. I can talk about that stuff with everybody else.

I'm not really interested in that. Uncomfortable conversations with a black man, Emmanuel Ocho, is, by the way, I like that you didn't judge me, because Twitter will. Yeah. I haven't been on it, but I don't do it. that you didn't judge me, you didn't even look at me harshly when I said, how dissimilar are you?

Because if you said that on Twitter, I would be ravaged, but you didn't judge me when I said, you know, how dissimilar are we? The initial take, like a minute later, I'm not smart enough to get it in real time. A minute later, I'm like, oh, that sounded stupid, but you didn't judge me on that. Colin, the problem in our society, I would say one of the top three biggest problems, I'll probably put it at third. Cancel culture. When somebody says something, we're so ready to cancel them that we don't give them the room

or the opportunity to grow. What does that do? Not only does it not allow the person the opportunity to grow, but it makes them fearful or more timid the next time. We talked about this with Drew Breeze. Drew Breeze had earned the right to what's viewed by many as a mistake. He'd given to charity. He'd been a wonderful teammate.

Gerald McCoy came on the show and he's like, I faced him in Tampa. He was my mentor. To me, he had earned the right to make, in the eyes of his clubhouse or his locker room a mistake. And I, the cancel culture, which, by the way, I think it's a little overstated. I think it's been here forever. People have been trying to cancel me for 30 years.

So this idea that, like, in the 70s and 80s, I had opinions and everybody like me. But I do think social media has amplified the force in which it's delivered and the urgency in which it's delivered. Absolutely. It's an avalanche. Yeah. And that is why I think so many people are afraid to say something about anything because they don't want to be canceled. Colin, growing up, I used to play the game Mind Sweeper. Remember on your computer it's right under Solitaire, like right under Hearts?

I never knew how to play it, but I was bored on an airplane, so I would play Mind Sweeper. The objective of the game is to just kind of keep clicking around and hopefully you don't land on a mind. And that's what I think we do in society now is like we're so fearful of landing on a mind with every word that we say that we don't even bother playing the game except it's not really a game. It's something called life. And because people are so often afraid of clicking a verbal mind and saying the wrong thing, it's like, oh, I'm just not going to say anything at all. Listen, this is something very real. This is why 22% of America is on Twitter and 78. It's not.

It's not because they're not interested, or they sign up and they don't talk on it because this is the world we live in. And that, Colin, is why I wrote the book because I wanted to preemptively answer questions that people don't want to ask because they don't want to get canceled. An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure. So let me try to preemptively and proactively answer questions for people who want them, who want to ask them, but might be a little bit afraid to. This is great. You know, sports is okay. This is way better. So the book is Uncomfortable Conversations with a Black Man Emmanuel Ocho.

This is a great picture on the back. You know how some people just look good in a suit? I mean, seriously. I mean, honestly, some guys look great. It's actually the Fox billboard picture. Is it really? Shout out to Fox. You didn't even pay for the suit.

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Search learn the hard way and listen now. Joy with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. So we've talked a lot of day about canceling old guys. Saban, LeBron, we're trying to cancel Tiger. Tigers played great.

Philip Rivers, Old Man Rivers, past Dan Marino for fifth place on the all-time passing yards list. Oh, come on. Give me a break. Colts win last night. after the game he described how it felt to hit that personal milestone. He said it's special. Those guys up there on that list. I don't know that I'm in their category and that's okay. But Damarino was

on my wall. He was a poster on my wall as a young boy. It's all just special and thankful that here at 38 I'm still getting out here and competing and playing the game that I love. Listen, he was 30 for 39. He can drive me nuts, but there's not a lot of people know the planet in an

NFL game on the road that can go 30 for 39. So, I mean, Philip played well? You know, I thought he was going to retire after last year. So did I. I was kind of surprised by this Colts move. They do have a great offensive line. They have an excellent defense.

Pittman, USC kids, pretty good. Pittman was great last night. Naheim Hines was great last night. Yeah, he was. They didn't really rely on Jonathan Taylor. And they haven't been for the last couple games. Yeah. Is he heard?

No. I think he just, they're just kind of feeling out what kind of style of running back he is. Yeah, because they're pitman last night was a big factor. Special teams in Pittman. Yeah. So, I mean, there was a good question to be circulated. of Phil Rivers is a Hall of Famer. He certainly has the numbers. Obviously, we know he has no Super Bowl.

He'll get votes. Well, I mean, he's fifth all time in passing yards. Fifth all time in completions. Seventh all time in attempts. Sixth all time in touchdowns. Listen, he's Eli without the rings. And, well, yep, to your point, he also has the second most consecutive starts for a quarterback, far of his first.

It's like Joe Buck and Troy Eichman said, though, he can be painful to watch. I mean, there are times his throwing motion. Sometimes Eli was too, but Eli will definitely be. Now, Eli does have the two Super Bowls. No, he'll get in. Eli's a Hall of Famer. He'll get in. Manning, Super Bowls.

Yeah. Yeah. And he beat Brady twice. So that, there you go. And the end's one season was the undefeated season as well. So this week, Lamar Jackson said opposing defenses have been calling out the Ravens plays at the line of scrimmage during games. But Ravens offensive coordinator, Greg Roman downplayed those concerns.

He's saying that has always been a part of the game. Calling out plays on a deal. defense is nothing new. I mean, I can talk about Ed Reed and Ray Lewis every play. You know, they're trying to guess what player are going to run based on what they're seeing. You know, that's the chess mask. I thought the media was irresponsible on this. So he said that on the Rich Agin Show. People are calling out plays. And then I watched the next day we came on the show and there were headlines like,

ooh, he takes a shot. That's where the media is wrong. Lamar hasn't been in the league long enough. Now he's got so much film people are calling out plays. They're calling out Brady's plays. This is the way it works. That's where the media, I thought, try to make a story out of a random comment by a young quarterback that's happening all over the world.

Boy, this doesn't mean anything. What do you think the defense doesn't watch film and prepare? What does it mean? Teddy Bruske, I could go do 10 minutes on Teddy Bruske's stories about Peyton Manning. And how they, he goes literally, it was a chess match in helmets. I would look at him, he would look at me.

He would wait to call the audible until the last eight seconds, so I couldn't call the defense. And I was throwing out words to confuse him that rhyme with Omaha. We were just staring at each other before the snap of the ball. Everyone's trying to win. Like, this is how it goes. They play the Patriots on Sunday night, do the Ravens.

They're favored by seven, according to Fox Bed. I kind of with you. This is a very interesting game because I do think that Cam is going to come out with a little, you know, big bro. Lamar Jackson has given him his props this week. Cam's given him his props. Belichick always gives young, quarterback's issues. That is a fact. Their defense is actually still good. Belichick's still great, and Cam will be inspired. The line is seven. So it's Foxborough at night. That feels way,

this feels like an ugly 24-20 Raven win. I could, yes. It's what it is. It will not be an artistic masterpiece. It'll be a mess. It'll be just, it'll be played mostly between the 20s. So the weekend has been chosen to headline the Super Bowl halftime show in 2021, three-time Grammy winner posted the announcement to his social media yesterday. He said he's humbled, honored, and ecstatic to be selected for Super Bowl 55 that will take place at Graham and James Stadium in Tampa. I'm surprised nobody ever took that name before him. It's such a great name.

It is. I'm the weekend. That's like that's when all the good concerts are. That sounded kind of cool when you said it. Said it that way. We're not going to have concerts for a while, unfortunately. but this is exciting. He has a lot of hits, so this will be a good show, and he's very theatrical. I don't know how they're, I'm trying to envision. Someone asked me the other day, like, what

is going to go on with the Super Bowl. Like, I don't know. I don't think it'll be the traditional. Well, I mean, it's in Tampa. It's going to, the weather will be fine. But just as far as, you know, the Super Bowl is usually a massive event. Remember when people used to complain? Hundreds of thousands of people in town. People used to complain. It was so silly, like even 10 years ago. Oh, Lady God God, nobody cares about And now we've all grown up And it's like, half time is not for you. Right.

It's for your in-law or somebody that doesn't love football, but you're over having hamburgers and watching the Super Bowl. It should be, it is a concert for everyone, not for football fans. Exactly. And the Super Bowl is the biggest television show of the year. That's what it is. Sports are a television show. It's ratings, right?

Yeah, it's television. show. Paying the bill. And the most amount of people are watching this television show in the country. You're going to want to have some crossover, some stuff for people that aren't traditionally watching football every single weekend. It's got to be fun. It's fun. It's a fun day. It's a fun weekend. That's great. Like, that's what it's for. And if Joy and I bring our show there, we will squish your small and significant show. I mean, yes, we will. Look it up. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Lye News. Jason McIntyre's

He's, he and I both stunk last week. I love my picks this. I think the lines this week are for people who like to bet football. Sometimes the lines, two weeks ago, we said it was a great week. This week, I think the lines are there for the taking. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.

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A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me. Cliver Taylor, the podcast. forth. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.

This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream,

this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tapped Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim?

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of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.

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Joy Taylor's joining me. Jason McIntyre, by the way, makes NFL pick. It was a bad week for both of us, but this is the reality with the NFL. There are weeks it feels better. This is one of those weeks. Let's bring him on straight fire with Jason McIntyre. He's got a podcast all the time on Eyeheart Radio.

He is now joining me live. We call it tomorrow's headlines today. He's a former newspaper guy. So he predicts what we're going to be talking about on Monday and what the headlines will be. So lousy week for both of us last week, right? It was a bloodbath. I've had seven winning weeks, one bad, and then, you know, last week was awful. But we're rebounding.

Rebound and strong, Colin. Let's get excited. All right. Tomorrow's headlines today. Eagles of the Giants. What's it going to be? Well, listen, Brett Farve came out of nowhere. and hammered Carson Wentz this week.

What's that all about? The headline will be Carson Conquers Critics, Wentz and for all. I like Carson Wentz in this spot. I know you're on the Giants. And listen, it's understandable why people are going after Wentz. His completion percentage is about 58. You know, he's about as reliable as the news

in my Facebook feed right now. Every week is just all over the place with Carson Wentz. However, Colin, his team is getting healthy. You look at that last meeting with the Giants. And they're healthy all over the place. Two offensive linemen are back. Miles Sanders is back, his best running back. Dallas Goddard is best tight end.

Alshan Jeffrey expected to make his debut. And Colin, that matters because if you look at the last meeting, the Eagles were three for eight in the red zone. That's unacceptable. Even if you take out the kneel down at the end, they're going to be much better this week. And I know you like the Giants a lot here. But this whole Daniel Jones, Danny Dimes, come on.

Like really, he's 4-0 against Washington, one and 16 against the rest of the NFL. Give me the Eagles here, Colin, favor by three. Tomorrow's headlines today. Bills at the Cardinals. Can't wait to watch this one. Good quarterback. Kyler Murray's must-see TV, right?

I mean, I just love this guy. The headline will be Kyler building his MVP case. I like Kyler Murray in this spot. I know Buffalo's coming off an amazing victory over Seattle, but I think that was more about Seattle than Buffalo. And Kyler Murray, Colin, we've been early on him And on this show, almost every week, he becomes a topic.

And I compared him to, remember how Pat Mahomes came out of nowhere, won the MVP. Omar Jackson, out of nowhere, wins the MVP. Kyler Murray is the guy to watch. He is so dynamic. In space, you really can't check him. And that defense is going to get better this week. They got shredded last week by Tua. They get two starters back.

I think they'll be able to handle Buffalo. And Kyler Marie, keep an eye on this. The Bill's best linebacker, Milano. He's their cover guy. He's like their spy. He just went on IR. Kyler Murray, by the way, who has more rushing yards this season than Alvin Kamara is going to have another 100-yard game. I like Arizona here.

I just like watching his highlights. God, Kyler Murray is crazy. It's just crazy. Tomorrow's headlines today, 49ers at the Saints. Yeah, well, every week there's one of these big margin games, and you're not supposed to look at the underdog, but you can't take the favorite, Colin. The headline will be, I-U-KU-K. kidding me? I like the 49ers, Colin. I know you like this. This is one of your best bets of the season. And I'm with you. Listen, we forget about the Saints. Before this destruction of Tampa last week,

this was just a good Saints team, right? Plotting against Chicago, struggling to beat Justin Herbert. They weren't great. They were great last week. And I think there's some regression this week. And I like San Francisco getting a little healthier. There's chatter that Richard Sherman may play this week. They've been so beat up, so many guys on IR. I do think the 49ers show up here on the road. And New Orleans just kind of regresses a little bit. Every time you have a big win, there is a letdown. Steelers last week, right?

They beat the Ravens. Then they go to Dallas. They go through the motions and they barely win the game. Yeah, that was one of your better headlines. Tomorrow's headlines today, America's Game of the Week on Fox. Seahawks at the Rams. Monster TV rating coming up. This game is phenomenal.

The headline will be. Sean, schools, the Seahawks. I agree. McVeigh, can you give him back his genius card? You revoked it too early, Colin. Just admitted, okay? This is a guy coming off the buy. I think it's a great spot for the Rams to really come through.

And McVeigh has owned Carol. One four out of the last five, Colin. The one lost was a missed by Greg the leg at the buzzer. Or they won five straight. I want you to look at your buddy, Russell Wilson for a second. I know you guys have like a bromance going on. And I'm not allowed to hang out when he comes over. get that. However, I do feel a little sorry for Russell Wilson. You know, he's on track to throw

the most interceptions of his career. His career high is 11. He already has eight. And, you know, there's so much pressure on him to deliver because there's no running game. Okay. The defense is a joke. They can't stop anybody through the air. The rush defense is okay, but overall, people just pass on him. And it's so much pressure on Russ to be perfect every game if he has a turnover or two, or he's sacked four times. They're not winning. I think this is a really close game, probably comes down to the final minute. I'm going to go with the Rams and Jared Goss. Good stuff.

Tomorrow's headlines today, finally. Ravens at the Patriots. I stayed away from this, but I do think Cam's going to be a little inspired here and how great Lamar is and play well. What do you got? I had a sports book director on my podcast this week, and he said this is the most lopsided game of the season

from a betting perspective. The headline will be Belichick no longer master of his craft. You like that? A little fun there? Listen, this is a Patriots team, Colin, number one in the NFL and defense last year. Number one, they are 31st midway through the season. Between the COVID and the opt-outs and the injuries,

they're not good right now. I know people will say, oh, Colin, they just played the Jets tough. The Jets sting, Colin. The Jets are winless. I just feel like this is a spot for Lamar and the Ravens, who, by the way, have not been great this season, okay? We watched them against the Colts last week. They didn't have one carry over 10 yards.

Yeah. Like this offense is not nearly as dynamic as they used to be. And I just think this is a spot where the Ravens finally open up. I'm hesitant to put any big money here. You know, I'm not going to put my kids' college tuition fund on the Ravens against Belichick as a seven-point dog at home. But I do think the Ravens come through here and get a victory. The Patriots just aren't good.

We can admit that now, right? Yeah, McIntyre's got his show on Fox Sports Radio tomorrow morning, 10 to 1 Eastern. Good to see you, buddy. All right, pal, see you. You faced a lot of opponents over the, years. There's one opponent we all face is age. Start your morning with MDrive Start. Start. It is one scoop every morning. Protein, vitamins, minerals, elite nutrition. Don't let age define you. Try it at MDrive Start.com. One scoop every morning. You know, it's interesting about the,

Lamar was so good early. He's now a victim of it, right? Like now everybody's judging him. With Kyler Murray, he was good early but not special, and we accept his gradual improvement. But the truth is, is Arizona and Baltimore still give you 27 points a weekend. But, you know, when you're good early, the expectations go through the roof. Whereas, you know, I mean, like Kyler was, they won five games his first year. They were last place. And then next year, this year, the first couple games. It's just, it's the trajectory.

Now we all love Kyler. We all think Lamar stinks. And the truth is, in any one game, it's a coin flip. They're both great. All right, for Joy and John and everybody here, the book, again, uncomfortable conversations with a black man, Emmanuel Acho, go buy it. It's smart. He is two.

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