The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 11/20/2020 - HOUR 3 - Young QBs, Headlines

Episode Date: November 20, 2020

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Starting point is 00:03:05 27, 26, Panthers break their losing streak. They just met a freight train last week in Tampa Bay. The Buccaneers were humiliated, so they hammered Carolina. But Carolina is better than they show. They've been losing close games. In Detroit, even if they lead for all of the game except a minute, we'll find a way to make it close. So I'll take Carol. I think Matt Rule's done a really good job.
Starting point is 00:03:27 You don't have to win games to impress me. The Giants, I think, have become a really interesting team. I think Carolina plays really hard. They just have a bunch of kids playing defense. And, you know, you didn't have a preseason, so they got beat on a couple of plays last week. They're just in the wrong spot. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Warren Moon was a pro bowler nine times. It would have been more, of course, but the Hall of Famer had to go to the Canadian route first, of which he was a five-time Grey Cup champion and the greatest player in CFL Hill. history and now a pro football hall of famer is joining us live. So, you know, I say this, I've told you this before, that you were the first great quarterback I saw.
Starting point is 00:04:04 I can remember the grainy footage at Husky Stadium. You play the Cougars, driving rainstorm, and you ran around. And it was rare. Like, people did not do that. Husky quarterbacks did not do that. But you weren't running back. You were big guy. You were six four.
Starting point is 00:04:20 So when you were coming up, take my audience to this, it's 1976. and you're down playing in Los Angeles, and you're a runaround guy. And you probably heard nothing but, well, you know, you can't do that. What was it like being one of the first highly athletic mobile quarterbacks? You know, it was something that I always cherish, but it was something that was almost like a curse
Starting point is 00:04:45 because you got victimized for being a good athlete. They wanted to put you somewhere else, put you in another position, because quarterbacks during that time weren't concerned. considered great athletes. There were guys that were going to stand in the pocket and throw the football and they never were going to move around very much. But I was a guy
Starting point is 00:05:02 who could throw the football. That was my strength. But I also had athletic ability enough to move around and be able to do other things. So you got penalized a lot for that because you were too good an athlete. You know, it's interesting. Russell runs basically when something doesn't work offensively. Kyler runs
Starting point is 00:05:18 because that's what they're going to do. Would you be worried at all about his size and the number of times, Kyler does run with the intent of scoring and picking up yards. You know, I worry about all these young guys who have that athletic ability like Kyler or like a Lamar Jackson because they run the football so much. You know, it's just a matter of time before they take that one big hit. And you saw Tyler the other night, I mean, Kyle of the other night, excuse me, take a big hit
Starting point is 00:05:47 on his shoulder and it probably bothered him the rest of the game. And who knows how serious that injury is. So it's just a matter of time. if you have that ball in your hands too much and too long as a quarterback that the defense is going to get to you. So one of the biggest games of the week, of course, is Tom Brady against the L.A. Rams. And the good thing with experience, I mean, there are certain things, Oral Hersheiser was a different pitcher later than early. Obviously, he had a surgery. But let's talk Tom Brady.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Give me one or two things in your career, your last couple of years, that you still felt you were better at. than you were even in your prime? I think anticipation. That's something that I thought I was good at as I got older because you start to lose some of the sting on your fastball and you just understand defenses and coverage is so much better. You know where the windows are going to be. And that anticipation allows that ball to get in that window
Starting point is 00:06:44 when it's supposed to because you lose a little bit of your athleticism, you lose a little bit of the velocity on your ball. But the anticipation kind of makes up for it. So that was something I really got better. at it and just recognizing defenses. I kind of knew what people were going to be in as I walked up to the football. And I was very rarely food as I got later in my career. Tom's got so many weapons right now.
Starting point is 00:07:06 He's got two good backs, two good tight ends, three good receivers, actually four. And I've said, I always feel like if I was a quarterback, I would want to, I would want to make people happy. I would want everybody to feel included in it. Probably that's why I wouldn't be a good quarterback. Did you ever have a team, Warren, where you felt a little bit of pressure that, okay, I've got a Pro Bowl tied in. I've got to get him eight targets. Did you ever feel that?
Starting point is 00:07:34 Well, when I played in Houston in the run and shoot, we had four wide receivers every down. And I had Hayward with Jeffries. I had Ernest Givens. I had Drew Hill. I had Curtis Duncan. One year, three of those guys made the Pro Bowl with me because I distributed the ball pretty evenly to all those guys and they were all very successful. And that's what you have to do when you have a lot of different weapons. You have to keep all those guys happy somehow, some way.
Starting point is 00:07:58 And they all have different personalities. So there might be a guy that you know you have to get the ball too early in a ball game to keep him going. And somebody else might not have to see the football until the third quarter. And he's going to be fine. He's still going to run his routes hard. So you just have to understand who your players are. But they're all talented. And you just want to make sure they all get the football because they can all help your team.
Starting point is 00:08:18 When you look at all, I want you to go by – I've asked Drew Bledsoe this before. So these kids now, Warren, they get 10,000 snaps by the time they're in eighth grade. I mean, they're in camps. And you guys didn't. You didn't have the seven-on-sevons. So go back to your high school career. Because I watched Joe Burrow and I watched Justin Herbert.
Starting point is 00:08:41 These kids, they've all been in these camps in Oregon and L.A. They come into this league. They got 100,000 snaps. How many snaps do you think? you had by the time you got the college football? You know, I don't know a number, but we did have a passing league that I participated in every year, my last couple of years of high school, but it was nothing compared to what these kids are doing these days. Football is almost a year-round sport now for quarterbacks and receivers
Starting point is 00:09:11 because these passing leagues are going on all year, all spring. They also have much better coaching because they have individual coaching at a very young age, and they're just getting much more snaps at it. Like you said, in these camps and also going through high school and college, they're all running the same offenses. Now you see the NFL is adapted to this, and that's why these kids are having so much success coming in early is because they're doing the same thing in the NFL now
Starting point is 00:09:37 that they've been doing since they were in junior high school. Of all the young quarterbacks, Burrow, Tua, Kyler, Lamar Jackson, is there one or two? I mean, what are your thoughts on all? Is there one or two that you really like? Man, there's so many good young quarterbacks in this league right now, Colin. It doesn't really matter if it's this new group that just came in with Justin Herbert or Joe Burrell or also Tua. But you also can look at, you know, Lamar Jackson, you look at Patrick Mahomes, you look at, I can go on and on and on, Deshaun Watson, Kyler Murray.
Starting point is 00:10:15 There's just so many good young quarterback. So the league is very, very healthy in that regard right now. and these guys are going to be around for a long time, and they're going to break a lot of records. By the way, I think John Gruden's my coach of the year. They didn't have a preseason. He had to move his franchise to a new city. They've had two COVID outbreaks. And he, by the way, Derek Carr, before Gruden got there, was a mid-80 quarterback
Starting point is 00:10:39 rating. He had like 22 TD's 13 picks. So obviously Gruden has absolutely helped Derek Carr, who I think is a good talent. I don't think he's a world-class talent. Go back to your career. Was there a coach that you absolutely believed made you a better quarterback at any point in your career? Well, I had a couple. I think June Jones really helped me when he came to Houston as my quarterback coach.
Starting point is 00:11:05 And then Kevin Gilbride came in right after him and took over his offensive coordinator. And my career really took off with these two guys. And you look at the job that Mike Mayock and also John Gruden have done in Oakland here over the last two or three years. They've had some really strong drafts. They're drafting guys from successful college programs that are high character guys. And now they've got some big-time weapons on the outside for Derek Carr to be able to throw the football to in Henry Ruggs and Nelson Aguilar. And that's the difference, I think, in Derek Carr this year. He's pushing the ball down the field.
Starting point is 00:11:41 He's getting the big plays where he always was just pretty much a middle-range passer up until this season. and now he's getting the big play possibilities, and that's what's taking his game to another level. You know, it's funny. Eric Mangini said to me when I was talking earlier today about Russell against Kyler Murray, he goes, he goes, the thing is you'll run around in the league, and then you get a big contract.
Starting point is 00:12:04 And he goes, guys don't want to get hit as much. It's no fun when you get hit. And I laugh at that, but I think to myself, go back to your first big contract. I don't blame you at all. Was it more like, you know, I'm a slide now. I'm going to take.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Does it change a little when you get the bank roll finally? Well, you know, when I came into the league, I was the highest paid player. So I felt like I had something to prove when I came in. So I kind of did a little bit of everything. But I was running down the sideline one time into my probably second or third season in Houston and trying to get some extra yards and should have ran out of bounds. And Donny Schill, who just got inducted into the Hall of Fame, great Pittsburgh Steelers, Strong Safety.
Starting point is 00:12:46 He hit me on my head. hip and I tell you what, it was the most painful burning sensation I've ever felt playing football. And that day told me, okay, I'm going to start being a distributor now. That guy named Magic Johnson, I want to be just like him as a football player. Let me get the ball to the guys who are used to taking those type of hits. Yeah, those Pittsburgh Steelers teams could deliver a few blows, including Donnie Shell. I remember that well. Warren, it's great seeing you again. Always great talking to you, Colin. Take care, my man.
Starting point is 00:13:15 It is funny about getting hit in the NFL. You know, Damien Woody, the offensive lineman. And Warren was, you can YouTube Warren Moon, Washington Husky's Rose Bowl. He looks like Dan Marino. It was at the 70s, and he just threw a stunning football he could move. If Warren Moon came out today, first of all, it would not only be the number one pick. He would be viewed like Trevor Lawrence. Like you could do big, strong, mobile, huge arm, beautiful throwing motion next to Marino, one of the all-time great releases.
Starting point is 00:13:43 but he talks about he's running down and a safety hit him. Damien Woody's like six, five and a half, six, six, three, twenty. One time there was an interception and guys are going the different way. And London Fletcher, who's a linebacker, he was an undersized linebacker for the Washington football team, hit Damien Woody. Now Warren Moon played at about 2.15, 218, 2.20, maybe a little more. Woody's 310. Damian Woody got hit so hard.
Starting point is 00:14:10 He went to the sideline and sat down. just took his helmet on and sat down. And some guy came and tapped him and said, dude, you're on the wrong sideline. This is the Washington sideline. Damien Woody, he goes, I just know I had my helmet. I was sitting down next to people. And a guy came over and said, do you notice the jerseys are different here?
Starting point is 00:14:30 You're on the wrong side. So you get tagged in the NFL. And everybody's got a story. Like you get tagged once. I saw a couple weeks ago, Russell Wilson just got smoked. And I'm like, it takes about two. those and you're like, I'm just going to throw. Imagine an Olympics
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Starting point is 00:18:26 There was one of those moments last night, and Lamar does this too, where, with Kyler, where they will wait till de last. Just millisecond centimeter to step out of bounds. and it always gives me so much anxiety because I'm just waiting for them to get absolutely smoked and then they're right out of bounds.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Kyler made a throw last night. It was incomplete. He threw it. It was an incredible throw. It was his best throw of the night and it was incomplete. He wait, Reed, Seahawks defensive end, Reed, came around, unblocked,
Starting point is 00:18:59 Kyler waited, and the guy's six inches taller. Weighted a heartbeat before he pounded him. And Kyler threw on his back foot a 35-yard dime into the corner of the end zone. It was his best throw of the night. And I'm like, the courage it takes to know you're going to get smoked
Starting point is 00:19:17 by a guy that weighs 70 pounds more than you. You're going to get drilled. And Kyler threw a dime to the corner of the end zone. And it was just broken up or would have tied the game or brought him within one. We prefer that they not get smoked. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:31 But you are going to at some point. Oh, Korsha. So kudos, because that's a different lifestyle. You've got to be, you've got to be wired that way. It's like the UFC. Like you know you're going to get hit. You have to be wired in a way. Navy SEALs where you can do that. UFC fighters, smaller quarterbacks that move, you're going to get smoked. It's a different lifestyle. So Derek Carr isn't talked about as one of the top quarterbacks in the league, but he has
Starting point is 00:19:56 the Raiders in the playoff mixed the season with a six and three record. And John Gruden says Carr is completely focused on proving that he is one of the best. He's all business. He's on a mission right now to prove that, you know, he can be one of the top, if not the best in football, that's what he's after. If you could see him here every day in these circumstances, you'd all be impressed with what he represents. And I couldn't be happy to having him as my quarterback. I love that now.
Starting point is 00:20:24 What a budding relationship. I know. It's taking a little turn. It has. We weren't really sure if he was all in on him. No, there was a lot of talk. And now it's, look at it. He's like a beaming father.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Look the way he says it. He goes, he'd just be so proud of him. You know, I do feel for Derek Carr, though, because before the the injury. He was in the MVP conversation. He was rolling. And now there's been a lot of questions about him. And I mean, to be fair, the Raiders have been very up and down since then as well. But this season, 69.3 completion percentage, 2,156 yards, 16 touchdowns, two interceptions, and the fifth highest pass at rating this season with 107.4. By the way, the years in which he's played really well, he's had a semblance of a running game. They have a very good running game. And
Starting point is 00:21:05 that's okay. By the way, Kirk Cousins wins a lot of games. when Dalvin Cook is healthy. And when he's not, Kirk's not as effective. It's okay. There's really, I can't, I'm trying to think of a quarterback. I mean,
Starting point is 00:21:18 I guess maybe the Patriots because they kind of do a, or have done a running back by committee at times. Who's a quarterback that doesn't have any semblance of a running game that is able to be successful? I mean, we saw last night,
Starting point is 00:21:31 as soon as Russell Wilson had some version of a running game, he's able to do what he does. There's no question. When Aaron Jones is out, I never like the Packers. No. So who is it?
Starting point is 00:21:43 I'm not really, I'm trying to think of one. Obviously, there are quarterbacks who can make things happen, but not throughout an entire season without a running game. No, I mean, Bradshaw had one. Aikman had Emmett. I mean, if you go back and look at the great quarterbacks, Dan Fouts had great receivers, but he had a running game.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Almost every great quarterback had a running game. You have to. Third and two is a lot better to throw than third and eight for everybody. Speaking of running game, the Cowboys are, having a down year, but so is the NFC East in general. So Dallas still has a chance to make the playoffs at a whopping 2 and 7. And Ezekio Elliott says that's one of the many reasons the team is motivated to end their four-game losing streak. It is kind of crazy to beat 2 and 7 and still have a chance.
Starting point is 00:22:25 No one likes to go out there and lose football games. I think it's been, what, a month since we won a football game. And that, it sucks. It sucks. So, I mean, we're hungry and we're going to go figure out how to win. You know, if you, Ezekiel Elliott was a great high school running back and a great college running back and almost never lost games. And then you go to the NFL and you get into these losing streets. He's never lost.
Starting point is 00:22:46 This is where I get players viewed as a business. It's not during the winning. Like during the winning, it's like football. It's like high school football. Because these guys all came from good high school football programs. But when you're Ezekiel Elliott and you've never lost and you get into the middle of this season and then you're sitting. And I totally get athletes thinking, I'm going to run out of bounds. I'm not going to go for the extra year.
Starting point is 00:23:04 I'm going to run out of bounds and not take a shot. This is a business now. We're not going anywhere. Well, look at how Joe Burrow is talking about losing. Like, they just asked him, I think it was yesterday we played the clip where they asked him, like, how's he going to measure, like, personal success? And he's like, wins and losses. They're not used to losing. Like, this is not normal.
Starting point is 00:23:22 You know, it's, Jay Glazer says this. It's an awful league to work in if you're losing. If you're winning, it's the world's best job. It's awful. Well, the Eagles play the Browns this week, won Eastern on Fox. and the Bengals are at Washington. Cowboys are at the Vikings at 4 Eastern on Fox, and the Giants have a buy.
Starting point is 00:23:41 The Eagles are top the NFC East right now at 3-5-1, Giants 3-7, Washington 2-7, and Cowboys are 2-7. So, by the way, a lot of the wise guys, the sharps like the Dallas Cowboys to cover, I would not touch it because I think Minnesota is the best team in the NFL with a losing record. I think the Vikings are going to make the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:23:59 And in fact, they're going to be 9-7, 10 and 6 in a game or two. I think Minnesota is going to go, and I said this two weeks ago, on like a seven-week run, 7-0. Well, they have Dalvin Cook, so that's entirely possible. Earlier this week, Mike Tomlin dismissed the idea that the Steelers weren't taking their game against the one-win Jaguar seriously,
Starting point is 00:24:22 and Ben Rothesberger agreed and said that Jacksonville has always been a tough match-up for Pittsburgh. We're not worried about anything other than this week. You look at past history of this game, and it has been pretty for us. we're not taking these guys lightly because they've had our number. I know we won the last one barely, but they've come here. I know these different teams, so it's nothing like that.
Starting point is 00:24:44 But you have to understand that this game in this group, these two guys against each other, these two teams, it's complete focus. What is going on at these press conferences? What is going on in the background there is chaos. The Steelers are five and six against the Jags, including O and two in the postseason since Rathesberger entered the league. That's so weird. So he's not wrong.
Starting point is 00:25:05 That Packer's not wrong. That Packer game was, I sat and watched it on a third TV with a sound down and I'm like, okay, Green Bay just didn't want to play. It was like shockingly competitive. Well, Steelers are not, they're not going to breeze over this matchup. They keep talking about it. And, I mean, those numbers are facts. So the last matchup was November of 2018. Steelers won 2016, but they trailed by 10 late in the fourth quarter.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Rathesberger ran for the game winning touchdown with five seconds left. So it's a big time matchup for the Steelers against the one-win Jaguars this week. It is Joy Taylor with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Line News. Jason McIntyre's NFL picks. Love it.
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Starting point is 00:28:07 So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history.
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Starting point is 00:29:48 He likes gambling, so do I. So I had a good week. You had a good week too. Yeah, I'm in that $1.4 million contest. Climing the charts. I'm in the top 175 out of 3,000 people. I'm putting in the work, buddy. And if it delivers, I'm going to get on your level soon.
Starting point is 00:30:04 You know, my wife tells me we need a wine cellar like cowherd. So, you know. All right. We call it tomorrow's headlines today. What will the headlines be tomorrow? Titans at the Ravens. What do you got? Fascinating game.
Starting point is 00:30:20 You know, we've been on the Ravens slide for a little while, right, Colin? The headline will be Lockheon. Jackson, Lamar Jackson and Baltimore really struggling. And again, we've been hammering away at this. And then last week in the monsoon, they did not look good in New England. Even if you don't want to kill them for that, we know that they're struggling to stop the run. Patriots 173 yards on the ground last week. Callais Campbell injured, maybe out.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Brandon Williams, nose tackle, probably out. And we know the Titans. They run the football more than Rudy Giuliani's hair dye runs down his face. Okay. Derek Henry second in the league in rushing. This guy is licking his chops for another. He had 182 on the ground last year in the playoffs against these Ravens. I think they run the football and win this game outright as big six-point underdog. Yeah, it's an interesting game. I stayed away from that, but it is interesting. When you can run against the Ravens, you take a lead, and that is where Lamar struggled.
Starting point is 00:31:16 So that's their problem now is they're falling behind in games. And they weren't a year ago. They just weren't. All right. Tomorrow's headlines. today. I stayed away from this one. Dolphins at the Broncos. The line freaked me out. I think Miami should be favored by way more. It scared me. What do you got? Certainly. I know Joy's loving this dolphins run. Just an amazing drink. Five and O against the spread in the last five weeks, the headline will be to a hot to handle. I'm still riding that to a train, Colin. Listen, this is the best first half team in the NFL this year. Highest point differential. And again, Denver Broncos. I mean, listen, Drew Locke is a joke at quarterback.
Starting point is 00:31:53 four interceptions and a fumble, 55% completions this year. Broncos fans are tweeting at me, Jay, we need Tim Tebow back. He's more accurate than Drew Locke. This Broncos team is a mass unit. This is the stat that scared me. Last week against the Raiders, the Raiders were down both starting tackles. The Broncos did not have one hit on the quarterback. Wow.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Okay, not one. And if you're not going to pressure Tua, I don't know how you're beating them. I do think Tua could struggle at altitude, his first maybe cold weather game. Yeah. It's going to be like in the 40s. So low scoring, but I think Joy's Dolphins win again. I think they're winning the AFCEs. Yeah, it is a really good point.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Drew Locke is, it's amazing. If you can't complete 62% in this league at this point in the NFL, you're just not, you're just, I mean, I got it 25 years ago. Like right now in the NFL, it is made to complete 62%. All right. Tomorrow's headlines today, Packers at the Colts. I like the Colts here. You?
Starting point is 00:32:52 Yes. I like the Colts early in the week, but then I saw some things, and the headline will be, Rogers sends Rivers packing. I'm going with Green Bay here. A little bit of a change of heart on my part, and a lot of it has to do with Devante Adams. Looks like he's going to be okay. He missed practice Thursday. Alan Lazard is returning, okay?
Starting point is 00:33:11 He's been out since week three. We last saw him torching the St. Secondary had like a buck 50 through the air. Here's the number. Okay. Aaron Rogers has struggled a bit at times this year, but he's played three games in dome stadiums, okay? 12 touchdowns, zero interceptions, 73% completions.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Okay, that is a little bit scary. And if you look at the culture, like, their defense is great. Okay, I get that. But who have they faced? Colin, the best quarterbacks they faced? Kurt Cousins, and that was in week two or three. And then Ryan Tannahill.
Starting point is 00:33:42 This is a big step up in class against Aaron Rogers. I just have a weird feeling that the Packers come out and are like, hey, we saw the Seahawks win. We saw their schedule. we've got to keep pace. We want that number one seed. I think the Packers here dominate and the matchup to watch, Colin. Okay? Xavier Rhodes is the best cornerback for the Colts, right? Playing great. Where was he before this? He was in Minnesota and the Packers dominated him.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Devante Adams head to head just destroyed Xavier Roads. You can look up the numbers. I think the Packers open a can here and really have a strong performance against the Colts. Good stuff. Tomorrow's headlines today. Chiefs looking for revenge at the Raiders. Ooh, this is a fun one. Now, Colin, I want to preface this. Be careful, everybody. The headline will be Chiefs take a victory lap down the strip. Oh, yeah, cruising down the strip. Now, this is a big revenge game, right? Pat Mahomes only lost this year. Only interception came against the Raiders. And everybody knows John Gruden after the game took the buses on a victory lap around Arrowhead. I had Brent Musburger on my podcast this week. And he's an announcer for the Raiders. He was telling me
Starting point is 00:34:49 about this and he's like, listen, the Raiders have some good matchup opportunities here. And then you see the COVID list in Cleland Farrell. Their best defensive lineman pressured Mahomes nine times in that earlier meeting. He's out. Their slot cornerback. He's out. And you start to look at it. You're like, oh, boy, revenge game, Andy Reid, 18 and three off of a buy straight up.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Colin, I can't make a case for the Raiders here. I do think the Chiefs win big in Vegas. Yeah. The line was tastier earlier in the week. It was six and a half now, eight and a half. but I still think with Mahalms, eight and a half doesn't scare me. And remember that the total for this game, 56 and a half, which proves once again that everybody scores in Las Vegas.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Tomorrow's headlines today, finally. Rams at Tom Brady in the box. Tremendous game Monday night football. Maybe we'll get together if the governor of California allows it. We'll watch this game. The headline will be Brady stays up past bedtime to beat the Rams. And listen, Tom Brady's primetime woes this year. They're a thing, Colin.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Okay, three primetime games. I know you enjoy touched on it this week. They haven't covered the spread in either of them. And then I started to read about Tom Brady. We know he's psychotic about his diet. This is a guy who goes to bed at 9 o'clock at night. I'm not even making this up. Okay, nine o'clock bedtime, he takes naps during the day.
Starting point is 00:36:09 So what does Bruce Ariens do this week? We're holding practice at 8 o'clock at night, just so you guys don't have a big screw up here against the Rams. And I do think finally the Bucks break through. Quick word on the Rams. And we talked about this with Carissa Thompson on Monday. This Andrew Whitworth injury is massive for the Rams. Heart and soul of that team, veteran left tackle.
Starting point is 00:36:31 What do the Bucks do better than almost anybody in the league? Blitz the quarterback, bum rush with those great linebackers. I think Gough could be in for a long night. I'm taking the Bucks here to win at home on Monday night football. Fox Sports Radio tomorrow. Jason will be on 10 to 1. Eastern. It's always a really well-prepared show. J. Mack, it's good seeing you as always, buddy.
Starting point is 00:36:52 All right. You too, man. So we both like the Chiefs. We both like the Bucks. He went in on the Dolphins. You know, the Dolphins one makes me think I should have taken it. But sometimes, I've said this before, every once or twice a year, I will see a number in Vegas and go, I don't get it. And it was the Dolphins number. And I said to you, Denver's got a backup quarterback. And it's a three, three and a half point spread.
Starting point is 00:37:16 it should be a six, seven point spread. And you would think I would run to it. But I've been burned so many times thinking I know more than Vegas. So Vegas is telling you this can be a close game. My initial reaction is this is going to be dominating performance by Miami. I think the dolphins will still play well, but they're probably just thinking. It's first time playing in elevation. And cold.
Starting point is 00:37:35 And it's cold, yes. Do it who have played high school football in Hawaii and then college football in the south, not a lot of cold games. And then he plays in Miami. It's like, so it is a thing. Yeah, it'll be a good test. I still think the wind. By the way, I don't think it's that crazy going to bed at nine.
Starting point is 00:37:52 I, in the winter, when it gets dark, I start yawning at about 8.30. Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm ready for bed at like six. It's so dark here. I used to go to bed at nine every day when I was on undisputed. And I take naps too. What's wrong with naps? I think sleep isn't very important.
Starting point is 00:38:08 My cat last night right next to my right ear. Your animals seem wild. Oh, I live a safari. at the north end of the zoo. All right, good stuff. Michelin Endurance X.D. Silicon Wiper Blades. Real world proven for extreme weather performance. They're at Walmart only.
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