The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 12/03/2020 - HOUR 3 - Quarterbacks

Episode Date: December 3, 2020

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Starting point is 00:02:47 All you have to do is correctly predict the outcome of six NFL games. And for Top Stories, Scores and more, go to the Fox Sports app, Colin. Give us your winner and final score for Falcons Saints. 332323 Saints. Yeah, I'm not going to be right. I have not picked an Atlanta game since the Brady Super Bowl. It is my... You picked them just...
Starting point is 00:03:10 I can't get Atlanta right ever. By the way, when I went on Twitter the other day and said that, I'm like, I can't figure out. They're my Bermuda Triangle. My money disappears. You cannot believe how many people told me. They're my Bermuda Triangle. Like everybody on Twitter was like, instead of ripping me, they're like, yeah, that's the team I can't. Nobody can bet Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:03:28 They're just a very unpredictable team. Totally unpredictable. So last week, who thought they were going to beat the Raiders by 30? And think of all the massive leads they've blown, too. They're just a very strange team. Strange. Greg Jennings, 10 NFL seasons played a couple of years with Brett Farv, five with Aaron Rogers.
Starting point is 00:03:47 He is now joining us live. By the way, Greg called the Niners Rams game. And he's calling the Rams Cardinals games. I'll start with the Rams, by the way. So you know, you watch this team. and there are games against Tampa, and I'm like, this is as good as anybody in the league, not named the Chiefs. And then you watch them against the Niners. And is it Kyle Shanahan having Sean McVey number, hit number, is it Goff can't play under pressure?
Starting point is 00:04:14 When you watch that and you watch them unravel with the Rams as a former NFL player, what is, why are the Rams so maddeningly inconsistent on offense? Well, I think it's a culmination of both. But I think it had a lot to do with Kyle Shanahan and Robert Salah in their scheme. Schematically, defensively, the 49ers, they were all over the Rams offensively. They have a tremendous amount of team speed, which you just can't account for. When you look at what the Rams try to do, what they do well, running that outside zone, establishing their run to open up their passing game. to establish that, you have to get those outside zone and those outside runs going.
Starting point is 00:05:01 They did not do that against this fast flow 49ers defense. And Fred Warner, a large part, Greenlaw, like, they have so many guys that can step up and can impose their will on a game defensively for the 49ers that it just really ruffled what they wanted to do schematically from the Rams' offense perspective. And then I think, too, Jared Gough is a quarterback that has to play in rhythm. Yeah. You get him going early. You get him connecting with his guys, Robert Woods, Cooper Cups.
Starting point is 00:05:33 The running game is going for them. He feels comfortable. He settles in a lot smoother. He's not a quarterback that is going to make plays on off-scripted opportunities. That's not his M-O. And I think that's where the Rams struggle when the game doesn't go their way. and they don't have that so-called first 15 running as smoothly as they would like to see. So this is the second year for Matt Lafleur and Aaron Rogers.
Starting point is 00:06:02 And I said this earlier to Greg Kosell. I can watch Aaron's body language. I think there's only been one time this year against Tampa that he looked distraught or uncomfortable. He looks more comfortable. So you know what they run. You know you've been around Green Bay and Aaron. That's what I see. Why is he seemingly so much more comfortable in year two?
Starting point is 00:06:23 What are they doing for him? Well, a couple of things. He is his second year in the system. But more importantly, they've done what any quarterback and head coach should do when you have a talent like Aaron Rogers is you've implemented what works best for him, what he wants to have and produce within this offense and plays that he would like to see run and then collaboratively you have what you want to do as an offensive coordinator. And Matt LaFleur has been completely open with that.
Starting point is 00:06:58 And he said even last year, that was not the case. It was more, it was my offense. But I noticed I had to allow him to be who he's always been. That's what makes quarterbacks. That's what makes any player in this league special is if they're allowed to be themselves and allow that to translate to the football field. And that's what we're seeing in Green Bay, a culmination of Aaron being able to get his boots, his keeps, moving the pocket, allowing him to run a portion of what he does so very well. But he also knows what the implementation of what Matt LaFleur has brought to the table, it works.
Starting point is 00:07:36 And he has bought in 100%. So Seattle, it's, it's Seattle did something this year so far that I don't think happens a lot, but I think good coaches and good teams can do it. they had a huge weakness, pass rush, and they solved it. They gave up a lot of picks, but they got Jamal Adams, and he plays kind of linebacker. They went and got Carlos Dunlap midseason, and some of their young players, LJ Collier from TCU, have been coached up. And suddenly, it went from a weakness to they've had more sacks than any team in the league in the last month by five. And I want you to go back to your career, because I don't think it happens a lot where you find a flaw and it becomes a strong.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Did you ever plan a team in Green Bay that you thought, man, this is an issue in camp? And then by Thanksgiving, you're like, this is actually one of our strengths. Well, I don't know if we had such a glaring issue that we were able to bandage the way that the Seattle Seahawks have. We kind of did it in the draft. You know, pass rushing was kind of one of our flaws. We were not able to get pressure on the quarterback, opposing teams' quarterbacks. and then you draft a guy like Clay Matthews and everything changes.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Right. It just opens up. And what it does, Colin, is for like a guy like Carlos Dunlap, it just opens things that once you have a pass rusher and you have a guy that can apply pressure, it's not so much about getting sacks. It's about creating space for one-on-one matchups so that offensive linemen can't double your best player
Starting point is 00:09:10 and then you're eliminated with any form of pass rush. They can't do that now. You can bring guys off the edge, Carlos Dunlop, he's going to absorb so much attention, and he allows created space now for the other guys within that defensive line and then that front seven. That's why they have changed the game when it comes to pass rushing. And it's not so much sacks. It is about applying pressure, putting the quarterback under pressure to get rid of the ball quicker than what they would want. So when you look at Brady's numbers, they're not terrible.
Starting point is 00:09:42 28 TDs 11 picks, 95 passer rating, 64% completion per day. They're not terrible. He's been inconsistent. And frankly, Arians and him have never worked together. So like some of it's a pass. When you watch Brady, are we being too critical? Has he actually been pretty solid? What do your eyes tell you, Greg?
Starting point is 00:10:03 My eyes tell me that he's been up and down. He has not been great. He's not been terrible. But when he's been bad, it has been bad. and he looks uncomfortable when it is going bad. And he doesn't look as though he can settle himself because of what they're doing schematically, offensively. They don't allow him to just get rid of the ball
Starting point is 00:10:25 in the timing that he wants because they want to push the ball down the field. That is not a strength of Tom Brady's. We've all said it. We see it. But I think more than anything, when you have a running game that they have, and you really don't rely on it as much as heavily,
Starting point is 00:10:42 as you should. And then pass catching out of the backfield for his running backs. He hasn't had that. And that's something that he's been accustomed to. And so with all those variables in one pot, it is going to be hard for Tom Brady in year one. Remember, this is year one to really be comfortable within an offense that he doesn't, this isn't like Aaron Rogers and LaFleur and now year two. But in year one, there were some struggles.
Starting point is 00:11:11 There were some tug of war, if you will. And that's what we're seeing in Tampa. Yes, Tom Brady's going to always say all things correctly and politically correctly and say, I have to be better. And yes, our relationship, Bruce Arons and I are, we're great. But there are some things that I think we will see changed after this bywood. So it's funny, Ariens has been critical of Brady. Mike Tomlin yesterday just ripped his team to shreds.
Starting point is 00:11:37 And it's just, I've never had a problem with that. I had coaches that were highly critical. and a lot of volume, and it's like, yeah, it's fine. It doesn't work for everybody. And I just, as an aside, did you ever have a yeller or a screamer? Did you ever have a coach that would call you out, like, publicly and rip you? No. No, I've never been on a team that had a coach that would just publicly,
Starting point is 00:12:01 really, it's not even the team. It's, he goes at individuals. And that's my only issue with Bruce Ariens, and the way he approaches it is he singles out players. And once you start singling out players, now what you're setting yourself up to do is every time a player has a bad game, are you going to call him out? Are you going to call everyone out? Is this going to be the trend that you've set? And so when you look at Mike Tomlin, he's fighting two evils, if you will. He has an 11 and old team. He knows they're really good. They played bad. He doesn't want them to drop a game that they can easily win. And that's what we saw yesterday,
Starting point is 00:12:39 a game that they should win and they didn't perform well. He's looking down the road. If we play like this, we will not beat the Kansas cities. We will not beat the Tennessee Titans in the playoffs. We will not beat some of these teams that we know will give us fits in the playoffs and accomplish our ultimate goal. That's what Mike Tomlin is doing. He's getting ahead of his team having a law.
Starting point is 00:13:04 He does not want that. Greg Jennings doing the Rams at the Cardinals game this weekend. the Cardinals lead the Niners, Vikings, Bears by one game for the final NFC playoff spot. So this is a big game. Rams at the Cardinals. It's a really big game. It's a really big game. You're doing great work on those games, by the way, Greg.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Thanks for coming on. I appreciate you, Colin. You bet. Yeah, that's a big one this weekend. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential.
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Starting point is 00:17:02 This is the herd line news. Well, the Clippers did not live up to their very high expectations. for the team last year. Did not. There's lots of blame to go around. Lots. Paul George explains some of his issues with Doc Rivers' coaching style.
Starting point is 00:17:18 The way I was being used, I felt like I was, you know, Doc was trying to play me as like a Ray Allen or like a JJ Redding. It's all pin downs. All like, I can do it, but that ain't my game. You know what I mean? I need some flow. I need some mixes of picking rows. I need some post-ups.
Starting point is 00:17:33 All that. Just different touches, you know what I mean? And so it was just. You know, that last season was just hard overall. All the Smoke Podcasts. That might be what he felt, but the numbers do not support that. What do the numbers say? Well, the numbers say he was used on as the pick and roll ball handler
Starting point is 00:17:54 and 32.9% of his total plays last season, which was a career high. He had the exact same number of post-ups per game in the 2018-19 season in OKC as he did with the Clippers last year. and he had fewer catch and shoot attempts per game last season than he did the season before. So he's just talking out of his butt. He doesn't know what he's saying. Well, that's what he felt like happens. Oh, he felt like that happens.
Starting point is 00:18:17 We feel a lot of stuff. The numbers did not support that. However, he did say they didn't make enough adjustments during the Denver series. He said, I don't think we deserved it. We were not prepared enough going into it. That I would agree with. And the adjustment thing is something else. He said that they just felt like they went into the next game, like, oh, we're still,
Starting point is 00:18:35 up, you know, three, two, will win this one. Oh, we're still level. What's the next one? And they never really actually made the adjustments. How about owning the fact that you didn't shoot well? Owning a little bit of this. A little? I think a good chunk should go on.
Starting point is 00:18:52 So the data that you provide says that none of what he initially said to those guys on the podcast is true. The preparation thing I'm not there. So, I mean, listen, Denver. Preparation and adjustments, I can't speak to the numbers. for what you're actually doing. Yeah, Denver's a good team.
Starting point is 00:19:07 We can track that. Denver's a good team. But also, I think a big thing with them is that if you're going to be the star and you're going to get star treatments, then you're also going to get the star criticism. And he's not been great in the playoffs. Kauai has proven himself. Kauai had a down playoff as well, but Kauai has rings. So we know what Kauai is.
Starting point is 00:19:32 We know what he's capable of doing. He won Canada a championship. So while I do think a lot of blame goes on Kauai, the bulk of it has to go on, Paul George. You haven't proven yourself. Well, it says here, according to the athletic, that they always say Leonard and George. So both of them had their own security guards and trainers. Both of them had power over the team, practice and travel schedule. Both of them didn't speak to the media until at least 45 minutes after the game concluded.
Starting point is 00:19:59 So it sounds like a lot of this stuff to me was negotiating. before the season started with Steve Balmer like all come but I got to me and Kauai get boom boom boom and the problem with that is when you stink in a series and again I don't have any problem with it we're in Hollywood
Starting point is 00:20:18 Star treatment all the time there's a reason for that because you sell the tickets and you sell the sponsorships and people come to see you play and you're getting paid the big bucks while that comes with big criticism especially in a city like L.A.
Starting point is 00:20:31 But when it comes to within the team and the issues that we're hearing. And we heard, this is not, like, all of this information is now coming out in specifics. But this was discussed immediately after they lost, so that it was a chemistry issue. Immediately we heard from Lou Williams, that was what the problem was.
Starting point is 00:20:46 We were hearing that during the season. So this is not, it's just the specifics that we're getting. It's self-awareness. If you're the star and you're going to take this treatment, you've got to spread it around, and you've got to make it seem like you're not inconveniencing other people. Like, the plane being late, I mean, you can't be late to the plane.
Starting point is 00:21:04 You just can't. No. You can't. Pilots aren't. Like you're going to get away with it because you're the star. But like one time, maybe there was a one time emergency. Well, there's not even... More than once. To me, that's like, that's unacceptable.
Starting point is 00:21:17 It's unacceptable. Bad. If you're the other star, if you're a Doc Rivers, like, you have to just change it. Like, risk losing them. But you have to set a standard. So I just feel like everything just unraveled. And little things like that pick away at people. So LeBron James agreed to.
Starting point is 00:21:31 a two-year $85 million extension with the Lakers. The deal will keep him with the team through the 2022-23 season, which would be his 20th year in the NBA. 2023 also happens to be the year that his son Brony will be graduating high school. So under the current one and done rule, Brony would be eligible for the NBA draft in 2024. Well, LeBron will be around. LeBron has said this is one of his goals that he wants to play with his son. Now, Brony's a five-star recruit, and he probably wouldn't be considered a true one-and-done prospect right now.
Starting point is 00:22:06 What kind of game does Brony have? What's his game? I haven't watched a lot of Bronny tape. He's on the far right there, right? Yes. So how old is he right there? Nine or 12? How old is he?
Starting point is 00:22:16 16. Okay, so let me watch his game right now. He's a sophomore. So what kind of, is he a two guard? What is he? He looks big. He's a sophomore. He's got two years left.
Starting point is 00:22:26 He does play at Sierra Canyon. and it still has a lot of years of growing as well because as we know, boys grow for a long time. Well, he's going to be a good ball handler because LeBron is a great ball handler and LeBron's going to make him. It doesn't hurt that you have personal access every single day to LeBron James to help you with your games. No, LeBron will, look it, you can tell the ball handling.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Yeah. Well, his fellow classman, Mikey Williams, is regularly puts up 50-point games, and Brony rarely has several figures with Sierra Canyon. So he does have some development still. to do, but this is definitely something. Rashad Phillips watches this show. You know, Rashad? He's really good at this stuff.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Rashad, give me Bronny's game. Go to my Twitter account and put it up there. I want to know, I want to get the scouting report on Bronny's game. Well, it's possible, and they are looking to change the rule, the one and done rule as well. That's always been tricky to me. I'll just, this is where I'm old school. I don't think the NFL
Starting point is 00:23:23 uses this free marketing platform called college football, and it helps their sport. I don't like this marginalization that college basketball is bad. I think Zion got a shoe deal because of Duke. And I don't buy this idea that going high school to the pros. I mean, I think there's massive value for certain players to go to college. Absolutely. Like Ronnie, Brony has LeBron James. So maybe there's maybe for his game, for his development, it would matter. But even if LeBron, let's say LeBron had gone to college, he would have won a championship. Sure. I think LeBron today would be like, that's, like, that's a lot.
Starting point is 00:23:57 That's one of the coolest things that ever happened to me. I went to Blankety Blank Duke and won a title. No, there's no experience like college. There's no romance that you're going to have with an experience like your college experience. Cameron Indoor is the most unique basketball experience, maybe in America. I don't think that there's no value. I just think it should be an option because for some kids, there isn't. And like, Ronnie, if he's good enough to go straight to the pros, which right now he's not.
Starting point is 00:24:21 But if he was, you have LeBron James. Like, everyone in the world knows who LeBron James' son is. So, like, the marketing aspect doesn't really. matter. So Snoop Dog is coming to boxing on a more permanent basis. We saw him Saturday for the Roy Jones Jr. Mike Tyson fight and he was a
Starting point is 00:24:37 thrill and a delight to all. And he announced that he's partnering with Triller to create a new boxing league called the Fight Club. What is Triller? I saw that. Triller is like, it's like TikTok. It's the American version of TikTok? It's like the other TikTok, yes. So what makes it different? I believe Triller has like a
Starting point is 00:24:53 relationship with like music artists so they actually get paid for the music that is used on their platform. So it's TikTok. I could be totally wrong because I do not, I'm not a TikToker. I'm not on parlor or triller.
Starting point is 00:25:09 I'm on, no, I have a TikTok, but I don't like, I don't know what to do with it. But the league will have five to eight events per year and have a mix of boxing and musical acts similar to the car this weekend. Snoop will serve as the host and announcer and will help with Fighter and Musical Art selection
Starting point is 00:25:25 overall production of the events. It's going to be a mix of some celebrities who want to dabble in boxing and some up-and-coming boxers as well. Okay, so I always had a theory on this. I think I told Dana White this. The UFC, these would never be their best fighters,
Starting point is 00:25:41 but take former NFL guys and put them on your card regularly. NFL guys that are athletes, some will go into broadcasting, some will work in football, some are tough guys and they'll fight. The second thing is in boxing, which I think is a little safer in terms of you have gloves,
Starting point is 00:25:57 You know, Octagon, if you get outclassed, it gets ugly fast. I mean, we saw this weekend. You can't really play with boxing either. No, but celebrity boxing matches. So two celebrities who have never fought before. So it's not like the situation this weekend. There's a lot of actors I'd like to punch right in the neck. With Nate.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I actually hosted a celebrity boxing thing in Miami a million years ago. I do not remember a long time ago. I would like to see some like a liberal Hollywood guy and a conservative guy. As long as it's both of their first time, because I don't want to see what happened this weekend with Nate and Jake Paul. It was a disaster. I think Tom Arnold would sign up for a 10-fight card right now with a bunch of people. He's yelling at everybody on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:26:39 I'm not fully against this, actually. As long as they're both amateurs and it's both their first time fighting. He's screaming all the time at people. Yeah, I would watch. Yeah, so would I. Joy with the News. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.
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Starting point is 00:29:02 To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack, so I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now, so. Thank you finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games. And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking, Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, We get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing. And we're still chasing it.
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Starting point is 00:30:58 So we thought we played a game today called To QB or Not to QB. Based on there are five to six quarterbacks. Everybody said could be first rounders. We have this emerging culture in the NFL where quarterbacks come out of college to the NFL and they're almost all working really quickly. So let's play
Starting point is 00:31:14 to QB or not to QB. Here we go. To QB or not QB? That is the question. Whether tis nobler in the mind, of Cowhead. All right, the first pick, the New York Jets, QB or not to QB? I would to QB.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Trevor Lawrence is a sensational all-time top-10 prospect. Sam Darnold is averaging 13 points a game, can't stay healthy. I like Sam Darnold, but sometimes in life, everybody needs a reboot. And so I say, get a quarterback, get Trevor Lawrence. To QB, I agree. Yeah, that's an easy one. That's kind of an easy one. This is probably also an easy one.
Starting point is 00:31:53 The second pick, the Jags. 2QB. So Gardner Minshu is a backup. And that's fine. There's nothing wrong with that. But in the end, they just fired their GM. They'll probably fire their coach. So let's just clean house.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Justin Fields. Yeah, we thought for a second, Minshu could make it happen. But no. That's second in it. All right, the third pick, the Cincinnati Bengals. This is an easy one. Not to QB. They need a tackle.
Starting point is 00:32:20 The best tackle in several years is available. Joey Burroughs good, he'll come back, so that's an easy one. Agreed. To QB. Yeah. This one, it gets interesting. The fourth pick, the Dallas Cowboys. Now I know this is not going to happen, but I would say to QB.
Starting point is 00:32:38 So Dak Prescott's going to be owned. If they franchise tag him, let me look up the number, $38 million. Okay, this is a roster that is top heavy. I'm paying him Rami Cooper. I'm paying $38 million. Or I can draft a Zach Wilson. and trade Dax. Somebody will take Dax.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Dax's going to get signed by somebody. This one to me, I know it's not going to happen, but $38 million for Dack is a load, and I'm not comfortable paying that. Is someone else going to pay him that for one year? Because that's what it would have to be if you trade him, unless they sign a deal beforehand. I would say not to QB.
Starting point is 00:33:17 I'm sticking with Dack for another year. Another easy one. Fifth pick, Angeles chargers, QB or not to I would not be surprised that they would trade down so not to QB, that's an easy one. Yes, great. All right, here's where it gets interesting.
Starting point is 00:33:31 With the six pick right now, the Philadelphia Eagles, QB or not to QB? It's not interesting. He's been sacked 46 times. Once again, I don't even know if it's the strength and conditioning. Can anybody stay healthy on offense? They're not drafting a quarterback. Not to QB.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Not to QB. They have massive injuries and something's gone on with Peterson. the offensive system, and he's been stacked a lot. With the seventh pick, the Carolina Panthers. So this is the perfect situation. It's a quarterback. I have two more years of Teddy Bridgewater. I like Teddy.
Starting point is 00:34:05 But he's like Alex Smith. He's a grown-up. He'll be an amazing mentor. I can go get a Trey Lance at a North Dakota. I don't want to make him play in the NFL. Teddy for two years does an Alex Smith. He probably gets us a wild card birth. this is the perfect situation in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:34:23 You have a good B quarterback and a good dude, Teddy Bridgewater, and an offensive coach, probably a little more sophisticated offensive system than most teams. I draft a BYU quarterback, and he sits for two years. I love – by the way, last year's draft, they went all defense, and they hit some home runs. I love Carolina that hasn't taken a quarterback first round since Cam Newton. I love Carolina taking the quarterback. I would say not to QB. If you're not 100% sure, you keep building around Teddy for a couple more years.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Eighth pick, Washington, QB or not to QB? I think a QB. Dwayne Haskins didn't get much of a shot, but he's 3 and 8, and clearly inside the building, they're not into him, so I'd QB it. Yeah, to QB. How about the Lions at number nine? Well, they're going to have a new GM and a new head coach. I got to be honest with you, I would, this is a real hard one.
Starting point is 00:35:19 You know, Matt Stafford, hasn't told me if he wants to stay. I think you're better starting from stretch, blowing him out, and drafting a quarterback. And Matt Stafford can absolutely get you a second round pick. I think I start over and draft a quarterback. I think they probably should, but it's the lion, so they're not, and they're forever going to be with Matt Stafford. So I'm going to say not to QB. How about the team that is the Bermuda Triangle for your wallet, the Atlanta Falcons? I would absolutely draft a QB. I would play, you're going to pay Matt Ryan for two more. This again, this is Carolina. So right now, Matt Ryan's the 10th highest paid quarterback and playing at about
Starting point is 00:35:54 the 17th best quarterback level. You draft a guy two years. Again, they have players. This is what you want. You want a guy like Matt Ryan, who's a grown-up, that a young guy can come in and watch Matt Ryan a total consummate pro for two years. By the way, in two years, Matt will get an offer somewhere, and I have my franchise quarterback. I think not to QB. Two years is too long. They're pumping out quarterbacks like this. One year of sitting, I get. All right, last one, because this one is interesting for one of you,
Starting point is 00:36:26 the dolphins at number 11 via the Texans. It's really hard. Okay, so I'm going to go with this, and I thought a lot about this, not to QB, because I do believe Brian Flores believes my defense, the quarterback that fits my DNA,
Starting point is 00:36:46 accurate, very few people, That is Tua. So even if I have some misgivings, he's already been benched and hurt, there'll be four more quarterbacks next year. I don't think, I think I'd get another offensive lineman and give Tua another full year. I got to hold. I got to see how the rest of the season goes.
Starting point is 00:37:05 I know that's not an option. But it is interesting. Trevor Lawrence and Josh Allen are who you're going to have to beat. Play them two times a year for the next 12. You're going to have to play those guys 25 times. Trevor Lawrence and Josh Allen. Yep. And if two has already been benched, then hurt, and it's why the NFL's great.
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Starting point is 00:38:16 I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's good, y'all? You're listening to Learn the Hard Way with your favorite therapist and host, Kear Games. This space is about black men's experiences, having honest conversations that it's really not safe to have anywhere, but you're having them with a licensed professional who knows what he's doing. How many men carry a suit or armor? It signals to the world that you not to be played with.
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