The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 12/07/2020 - HOUR 3 - Three words

Episode Date: December 7, 2020

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Joy Taylor with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Well, the Saints became the first team to clinch a playoff berth this weekend after beating the Falcons 21-16. What do you make at Taysom Hill? I make of Taysom Hill that Sean Payton is an excellent coach. He certainly is. No, I think Taysam Hill stepped up. I had a lot of questions about whether he was going to be capable of doing this.

And I was really nervous that it was all going to derail. And everyone, myself included, was kind of surprised to find out that he was going to be starting in place of James Winston. And he has gone out there and done everything that they've asked of him. He's very unique. He's very unique, but he's winning games and can't take anything away from him. I don't think it's the same situation as it was with Teddy Bridgewater last year. No, Teddy's a more natural thrower. Yes, but I can't be critical of him.

This is what, like, if he's playing at his highest level, this is what you would expect from him, and that's what he's doing. By the way, if Jalen Hertz succeeds, there are those who would argue Jalen Hertz is a little bit like Hill. Not a natural great thrower, but can throw it, but can do so many things with his legs. He's such a great athlete that you just kind of win uniquely. I don't, I think the, we're kind of still. Pocket quarterback. Yeah, we're still adjusting out of that.

Not that being a traditional pocket quarterback is a bad thing, but the game has just changed so much. Yes. And uniquely, if you're the Saints who are a great team with a great culture, with a good defense, great coach, great weapons. Yeah. You don't need an over-the-top performance from your quarterback in order to win. I mean, you're seeing this with the Cleveland Browns.

Now, obviously, I'm not comparing them to the Saints. Obviously, the Saints have much more foundation and culture of winning. But if you go top-bottom roster in the NFL, Saints could be number one. It's about as good a roster as the league has. Yeah, so all Tayson had to do is come in and not mess it up, and he's done much more than that. Do a great version of Tayson Hill. Yes, and that's what he's done. He's had another strong performance.

He had two touchdown, the first two touchdown passes of his career, and he rushed for 83 yards. Drew Breeze is improving. He threw up for practice last week, so there's a chance he could be available next week against the Eagles. They have a good pass rush. I'd let Taysam play. Philly's got a good pass rush.

Don't get him in the crosshairs of that. I feel like I'm with you. You just, because like I said, Tate's done everything you've asked of him. Eagles have been playing terribly. You don't know what you're going to get from them week to week, but they do have a good pass rush. Play them as long as you can.

Yeah, just give Drew another week. They are obviously the top of their division at 10 and 2. Packers 9 and 3, Rams 8 and 4 in Giants 5 and 7, atop of the NFC divisions right now. Seahawks, Bucks, and Vikings are in the wild card slots right now, and obviously the Cardinals, 49ers, Bears, and Lions are in the hunt, but it feels like a few of those teams are quite a ways out of it. Niners got to win a night. Niners got to win a night.

Yes. So Aaron Rogers said another personal milestone yesterday. The Packers 3016 win over the Eagles. He threw three touchdowns to reach 400 in his career. He became the fastest quarterback ever to reach that milestone 400 career passing touchdowns and the seventh to ever hit that milestone. When he's getting time to throw, it's beautiful. When he doesn't have pressure, he had some throws yesterday. He's just sitting around there and it's just pretty. I love this giving him the 400 passing touchdown. He's having an incredible season. And it's not quiet, but I feel like I feel like there's just like one percent of an anxiety about the Packers and it's not at

all because of Aaron Rogers. It's just I did not think that they did enough this offseason to fix the issues that they had in the postseason last year. But the way that Aaron Rogers is playing, they might just be able to overcome that. I mean, their offense, they can flip the field like really just as just as easily as the chiefs can. Like they are remarkable. They can score like that.

So I think they may be able to make up for the lack of physicality that feels like they have. Somebody said this weekend, the reason they play so well when they're ahead is because the other team has to pass and their past events is fine. When Green Bay trails and the other team goes to a physical running game, they don't defend the run well. That's why Green Bay plays so well with a lead. Their weakness is we trail and the other team's just pounding the ball on us and they lost Blake Martinez who's a tackle. machine and they're just not a great run defense. They're just not. It's not what they do. That's not what they do well. Well, the Fox bet odds

for MVP right now. Patrick Mahomes is leading the way of minus 500. Aaron Rogers is second best odds at plus 450. Who leads? Patrick Mahomes. I think I'd give it to Aaron. I think I would give it to Aaron. I'd give it to Aaron. I'd go Aaron won Mahomes too. And that's, I mean, Mahomes having an amazing season as well.

I don't know. It's really tough. Russell and Ben Rothesburger are tied with the third best odds. Finally, Okay, so... I don't understand this. I don't understand this either. And I've given it a lot of thought since this news dropped yesterday.

I don't get it. And I still don't get it. So Floyd Mayweather is getting ready to step back into the ring. I actually thought this was fake. And then I kept seeing it on all of the news sites. And I was like, okay, I guess this is for real. This is a real thing.

He announced he'll be fighting Logan Paul in an exhibition match on February 20th. So that's not the guy who beat up Nate Robinson. Correct. But I didn't realize that for a few minutes either. Actually, it was like a while. I was very confused. I was very confused. That fight I'd watch. Yes, right? So when I saw this news, I was like, oh, okay, I mean, this is still ridiculous. But that was my initial thought that it was him. No, that's actually Jake Paul. That's his brother. Now, Logan Paul has fought before. He lost to another YouTuber, KSI.

Oh, hell, I don't want to watch this. That's stupid. So I'm going to watch the greatest fighter pound for pound ever against the guy that lost to a YouTuber. The greatest defensive fighter in the history of boxing. To a guy that lost to a YouTuber. Undefeated record. I'm not watching it. Logan Paul has participated in one professional fight, which he lost by split decision. Now, come on.

At least the other Paul won his fight. He's 2 and 0. This does nothing for me. Listen, I'm going to be clear. I'm going to watch this. But this is. And when I think about. like overall what it really means

because it's obviously for me my first thought was what could he gain? What could Mayweather possibly gain? Obviously he's going to get a check. Yeah, big one. But my thing, and this was my question with McGregor as well.

Although now having watched the McGregor fight, I feel differently because that was actually a legitimately competitive fight. It's, we all know Mayweather's going to win this convincingly, right? But it is still boxing. So you're stepping foot in a ring. for a check, obviously.

And there's, because it's boxing, there's a, let's call it 1% chance that you take a wrong step and this YouTube guy accidentally knocks you out? Yeah, I don't think it'll happen. Of course, I don't think it's going to happen. I do not think it's going to happen. I think Mayweather is going to destroy,

and I'm putting that lightly. I really feel like this should almost be illegal. Yeah, no kidding. I think he's going to destroy him. Like, it could be bad. But there is that 1% chance. So you're literally, if you're Mayweather, you're putting your legacy on the line

to fight a YouTuber? So I think if he loses, people will think it's fixed. That's why he's doing it. I mean, there's zero percent chance he's going to allow that to happen. This fight will be so bad. He'd ruin his undefeated record.

It's one thing if you were a YouTube star and you'd fought a couple times and won both, I'd be intrigued. If you're fighting other YouTubers and losing, I'm out. I refuse to watch. Even if Fox sponsors it, I will protest. It's not watchable.

I will watch because I have to find out what's going to happen. But here's the thing about boxing. Unless you're a purist, the fights are about the story. That's right. So people are going to watch this. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news.

And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. Darrell Moose Johnson, decade in the NFL, three rings. He is doing today. He's calling today's Washington Steelers game on Fox. So let's bring him in live. He's kind enough to take 10 minutes for us. All right, so I've been kind of getting a lot of hate-man.

from Steeler fans because I've said, listen, I know the record, but they don't run the ball. Running the ball is really important to keep it away from a Mahomes or keep it away, you know, from an offense that can be electric that you're going to face in the playoffs. When you look at Pittsburgh, is it that they can't run the ball or they're not committed to it? What do you see? Okay, before I start there, just one name on your last segment, Apollo Creed. Always remember that, right? Apollo Creed.

Anything can happen. Anything can happen. You know what? I'm kind of on board with you on this one, Colin. I went back and watched them play Tennessee, Baltimore the first time around, back in the middle of October. And one of the things that we've talked to a lot of the teams about this year is complementary football. At that point, I thought Pittsburgh was the best complimentary team I've seen in the NFL this season. Now, a lot of that comes from what happened last year with Ben Rothlisberger out of the lineup. The defense was taking the ball away, special teams was creating field position.

The offense last year was able to do that four-minute offense and run that. clockout form. So I think there's a little bit of carry over there from what happened last season. And now with Ben back, you know, the offense is picked up. I think they've moved away from that running game. It's something that's always been a part of Pittsburgh's offense, but it's not there this year. But the big question for me in our game today is you always want to be playing your best football going into the month of December. And Pittsburgh did not play their best football last time out against Baltimore. And they've got a tough stretch here with three games in 12 days. We'll find out how well they're going to play. So I want to keep it on the NFCE. So we're going to

talking about Washington the Giants in Dallas. Let's start with Washington. I actually think they have a puncher's chance today. And it's interesting. We had no preseason. So you give these coaches, you know, new system with Ron Rivera. They've had some chaos at quarterback. Before I get to the Giants who clearly are on board with Joe Judge, when you watch Washington on film, do you feel like they're getting better? Do you feel like the players are buying in? Do you feel like week to week? Do you think they could do a Miami? Where by the beginning of next year, you're like, this is a real football team? Absolutely, absolutely. And I think, you know, that six-game stretch that Ron Rivera talked about when he made the switch to Kyle Island and moved off of Dwayne Haskins, he thought there was an opportunity there to get back into the NFC East. He was very disappointed that they went three and three during that stretch. He really felt that they should be on top of the NFC East right now. But he does see the progress. He does see the team getting better, but he wants them to be able to do that from the start of the game. And that's the one area that he's really asking his team to get better at is start the games faster. We want to walk in. We want to walk in.

We want to take control of the game and be able to move through the 60 minutes and complete control that game. Now, that's a huge step when you're talking about a first year head coach, all the transition that happened within the organization, no traditional offseason. So it's been a gradual progression, but today is the game. And this is something that Alex Smith is excited about. He really wants to see how good they are and how far they have progressed because the Steelers are going to be a great measuring stick for him. But I think that you're going to be a game that's a little bit closer than a lot of people think. I do. I do. So when the Giants were one and seven, I'll pat myself in the back, I said, okay, what they are is Miami last year. Like I see a really good team that's competitive.

They just, you know, Sequin Barclay's out. They don't have enough firepower. They're losing close. And all of a sudden now they go from losing ugly early to losing close early to now winning close, which means next year you hope you start to win a few big. What's the secret sauce? When you watch the Giants, a team you know well, what has been the, the season? sauce for you. What is the ingredient why players are buying into Joe Judge? Just having the opportunity to visit with him earlier this season, he's got a presence. He had a plan. He laid it out to the guys. He's very open. He's very transparent about what he wants to do. And learning to win is something that I think a lot of people outside of sports don't understand. When there's transition like

they had, you've got to relearn how to win. It doesn't matter what you've done at other stops or other places. That group coming together as a whole has to learn how to win as a a team. So it's the exact process that you talked about, losing ugly, losing close, now winning close. You know, when did they take that next step where they can win going away? It was a huge win going out to Seattle yesterday and performing like that. They've built it on the defense. The defense has always been good. The offensive line has gotten better and better and better all season long. So this is the team that you have to watch. And it was it was really ironic because coming into this season in the NFC East, everybody thought, well, this is Philadelphia's division.

I mean, they're the only one who hasn't had a coaching change. who doesn't have a lot of transition. The other three teams are really going to struggle the way the setup has been done with the offseason program. And when we got through with Washington and New York early, our group decided, you know what, those two teams, even with all the change and the challenges that they've had in the off season, those two teams could be the two that are fighting out at the end of the year, because those two teams have already bought into what their head coaches are talking about. You could see them all falling in line, and they've showed that all the way through the season. So I think the NFC East comes down to the Giants and the Redskins, and it's going to be hard because those

two games, when I talked about the six games that Ron Rivera was talking about to try and get back in, it was the two losses to the Giants, where he elected to go for two instead of kicking it and going to overtime, and then they lost by three points and the other one. So four points there gives the Giants the two victories over the Washington football team. So, you know, that will be the separator as we get towards the end of the year. And finally, it's interesting. Tampa Bay is on a buy week. And so my guess is, Ariens and Brady, this is a real opportunity during a by week to kind of get your identity right. Dallas was a mess. They have a buy week and they come out and moose, different team. Played Pittsburgh close, beat Minnesota. So you tell me, I mean, it was dramatic.

Dallas was one team and then another. What happens during, because I always thought you just give guys time off. What happens during a buy week that allowed Dallas who plays tomorrow to really kind of the buy-in was not apparent to a parent off a buy week? Well, you know, I really think it was personnel decisions that were made. Don Tari Poe was let go. Everson Griffin was traded. Those were two guys who were brought in to be kind of the bedrock of that defensive line. And they were great names and they've had great careers.

But they were not playing to the potential that the Dallas Cowboys expected them to play at. So you made a move right there that got everybody's attention to realize, hey, we're going in a different direction. This is the way we're going to be doing business moving forward. If you're not on board, you're not going to be a part of this. So I think that that sent a huge message. And I just think you've seen that defense play a lot better. There's a lot more hustle. Yes.

You know, that was the big thing to me. There was just some fundamental things, not coachable things, just fundamental things that are the responsibility of the guys on the team that weren't being done. There was a lot of talk about it, but there was no action being on the field. Now I think you're starting to see that reaction and the guys are playing a little bit better. It's a little bit sounder. They're starting to understand Mike Nolan's system. But I think that that was the biggest change was what.

happened on the defensive side of the ball. And we'll see if they can keep it going. It's going to be tough against Lamar Jackson. You know, you've got Alden Smith, Randy Gregory, DeMarcus Lawrence. They're going to have to have a heck of a game protecting those edges because this is a unique style of running the football and they're very good at it against virtually every opponent they face. That's Super Bowl ring you're wearing.

Is it got superpowers? Look at that thing. You got three of those. Now which one is that, by the way? This is, you know, and I shouldn't do this because it's from against Pittsburgh. I usually don't wear the ones into the home stadiums of the team, but this is the one that really only fits my knuckles because I think I have some arthritis in there now.

So I committed the big sin of wearing one of the rings to the home team. So sorry to unveil that live on television. Yeah, no, I'm in trouble. I'm not going to get out of here in one piece. Moose, I always appreciate you stopping by our show. Thanks. Yeah, good to catch you. Take care.

All right. Best for last three-word NFL game. Can you sum up every NFL game in three words? We think you can. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd. Weekdays at noon Eastern 9 a.m. On Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHard Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged.

It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations

with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clivert Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told,

and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok.

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Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. They're finishing that sentence.

I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games. And in recognition of mental health awareness month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking. Trip Fontaine, Ryan Clark.

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way to lose. It's not sitting well in Chicago. Saints and Falcons. Peyton's place cemented. Sean Payton is the Belichick of offense. Eight and no without Breeze over the last two years. Nobody's going to make Tayson Hill look this effective. I'm sorry. Ninth straight win. Taysam Hill is 27 to 37. And I don't even think Sean Payton would say he's a great thrower. He's a little bit mechanical. So this is just a really smart, offensive coach. I mean, this is why James Winston took only a million bucks.

He said, I want to go to quarterback school. This is where you go to learn how to be a quarterback. The fact they've gone eight and no without Drew Brees is really a testament to so much about what the Saints do right. Browns at Titans. Baker's best half. 20 to 25, four TDs in the first half alone. Also a shout-out, Brown's defense held Derek Henry down. Now, some of that was because the Titans fell so far behind, they couldn't run.

But Baker played with a lot of poise, good tempo. I mean, he had open receivers, but he hit him. In recent weeks, he hadn't. So Baker made the throw. That's a great throw right there. His best half is an NFL. It's the highest scoring half, by the way, in Brown's franchise. In the history of the Cleveland, Jim Brown, Otto Graham,

it's the highest scoring half. ever. Raiders at Jets. Inventing new ways. Jets led 13 seconds left. Greg Williams, who was fired today, called an all-out blitz and a third and 10, gave up a 46-yarder. Derek Carr to Henry Ruggs, who, by the way,

Ruggs is just a streak. I mean, he just runs, he's the fastest guy on the Raiders. I mean, give credit to, you know, I mean, Derek Carr hit it. It's open, but no safety help. It's kind of the actually the defense Belichick would not. run. This would be the last thing Belichick would do. Jaguars and Vikings. Don't blame

cousins. Kirk overcame a 10-point deficit in the third quarter. Second straight week. He's done that. Hey, he has thrown three touchdown passes in each of the last three games. Longest streak of his career. So Minnesota's got seven new defensive players. A lot of them young. This is not a Kirk Cousins

thing. He's got a ceiling, but Kirk's not the issue why they're struggling to get past Jacksonville. Bengals and Dolphins Toa be determined Tua was okay, hasn't thrown a pick yet so he makes good decisions. We knew he was accurate. Yesterday he threw for 296 yards. They asked him to make more

throws yesterday. We're still kind of figuring out what he is. Not as dynamic as some young other quarterbacks, but again, does Flores, and this may be what Flores believes, my defense and special teams are going to win games. Just give me Drew Brees. Just give me a guy who's accurate, smart, doesn't throw picks and is poised. I don't need to have Mahomes.

For the record, that's won a lot of games in this league. That wins a lot of games. May not win a lot of Super Bowls, wins a lot of games. Cold said, techsets. Same old South. It's a goofy division. Deshawn Watson had the ball two-yard line, buck 28 to go,

fumbled. The best team doesn't win this division. Just the grease fired at the lowest temperature. It's so many games blown in this division. I'm not I thought I liked Tennessee until the first half. I don't like anybody in this division. Really, there are halves I like them.

There are weeks I like them. Rams at Cardinals. Murray Missing Magic. Third straight loss, season low and first downs. Arizona never had the ball in this game. This may have been the most lobsided time of possession game this year. Rams had the ball 39 minutes. Cardinals had it at 21.

So, I mean, if you turn this, I watched the whole game, but if you turn it on occasionally, Arizona never had the ball. DeAndre made a couple of decent throws, but didn't have a lot of first downs, was inconsistent. It didn't really play very well in the first half. Now, some of this is, I'll say it again. Rams have the best secondary in the NFL. It is a, their young guys are excellent. Jalen Ramsey's got all the smoke. So this is a really, really good defense. And Kyler Murray, in fairness, is still a young quarterback. It's not a defense, especially when you're trail to play this defense, when you got to throw in your trailing, it's no good for, Anybody.

Giants at Seahawks. A giant statement. Held the Seahawks to 17 points. First Seattle home loss of the year. When you win with a backup against Russell Wilson, I think the Giants are really good. So they went from losing big to losing close to now winning close. To me, there's Saquan Barkley and a receiver away from being a handful.

Really? I think it's an upset. I don't think it's as giant and upset as everybody thinks. I think giants are pretty good. Patriots and Chargers. Herbert deserves better. Listen, the Chargers special teams had the wrong number of players on the field five separate times. I mean, come on.

You got to get the players on the field, right? It just looked like a disorganized mess. And let's not mess around with, you know, coordinators. Let's go get a head coach. Let's spend some money on this thing. Everybody in L.A. is winning. U.S.C. is unbeaten. Lakers are winning. Dodgers are winning. Rams are winning. You're already invisible in this town. Go spend money on Urban Meyer, Lincoln Riley, Brian Kelly, you know, Belichick, make an offer. Get this thing right. Eagles and Packers. Man, that hurts. Jalen hurts. He's probably going to get the start this week. Listen, even if he's the solution, it doesn't solve the issue, which is you're going to pay your backup quarterback, Carson, inch, 35 million. I don't know what to do.

He looked pretty good. Jalen Hertz stepped into a couple of sacks. A couple times he just, he hadn't had enough snaps. Bullets are flying. It's live football. But he made a nice throw there. He moves. That's a nice throw. Can't get worse, so why not? I mean, seriously, you draft them in the second round pick.

Might as well play him. I mean, this year's in the toilet. So play them. See what you got. Broncos at Chiefs. Broncos. Yeah. Winning in sleep. Chiefs have not won by more than six points in any of their last four games. I don't, I never felt, I didn't think it was close last night, to be honest with it.

The Tyreek Hill play had never seen that before. It's weird. They're really good. My three-word game was going to be, chiefs are good. They do everything. They don't play with a ton of urgency, and I think all you fans know that. That's what they don't do. They're the Warriors with Kevin,

Iran. It almost looks too easy, and that becomes a mental block. By the way, Mark Slareth had that Giants a Seattle game, which wasn't upset. I don't think, you know, I don't think it was as big as upset as we think. And when you have a defensive line, controlling an offensive line, it makes inferior teams really competitive. And I just watched the mock draft the other day, and they had the Giants taking another defensive lineman with one of their picks. And I'm like, okay, that's just getting a San Francisco feel where you're just, people can't block you. You got four or five people. They just can't. Leonard Williams, by the way, is playing great.

Much better giant than he was a jet. Dexter Lawrence is great. They got him in the OBJ trade. Mark Slareth was talking about why the Giants have become so difficult to deal with. The Giants are going to win this division because they are so physical up front, but I will tell you where they have gotten so much better. Jason Garrett continues to call the run. They did nothing in that first half offensively.

Guess what happened? They bludgeoned the Seahawks, who had the third best run, defense in football in the second half. That's an offensive coordinator that adheres to what the game plan is, right? They are the most complex, the most disguised back-end defense that I have watched all year on film. This is a much improved football team under Joe Judge. So for the record, he said it's the most disguised defensive team. Well, that's what they say about Belichick. That Belichick, when the ball is snapped, the defense changes. And that's why. a young quarterback struggle.

I mean, it's amazing to watch Belichick on Friday in Blazing 5. We just said, Belichick, young quarterback, I'll take Bill. I mean, that's literally, they're like two or three rules in the NFL. Andy Reid off a by, always take Andy Reid off a buy, Bella check against the young quarterback, and Sean Payton can win with a backup quarterback. Those are the three rules in coaching. Andy off a buy, Bill against a kid, and Peyton with a backup quarterback.

Like, it's been established. Rush Limbaugh is conservative, Rachel Maddow is liberal. There's no reason to argue. It's been established. We know that. I don't understand people that argue stuff that you know. I am so mad that this person takes that position. Well, that's what they do.

That's who they are. Well, you just figured it out. Sports Illustrated covers sports. Not like hunting and fishing and boating. That's why you buy the magazine and complain. It's not car and track. No, that magazine's called car and track. When people, like, we have stuff in the NFL.

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