The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 12/17/2020 - HOUR 3 - Awards

Episode Date: December 17, 2020

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Starting point is 00:02:20 Or stream us live every day on the iHeart Radio app by searching Heard. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. New streaming service comes next year called Discovery Plus exclusive originals, some of your favorite brands like HDTV. I used to be addicted to HDTV. And then you got all the, then it was just, now there's just more options. I started watching something last night, real life drama about a, it just, I can't get into it. It's so good. I love true crime.
Starting point is 00:02:54 I can watch. You watch a lot of really dark stuff. I do, I do. I can't do that. The world is dark enough. I just want to sit down and watch like Shits Creek or the office or, you know, something like. You're like Anne. She likes joyful, uplifting stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Yeah, because my mind is already too dark on a consistent basis. I need just a little escape. Oh, I just, seriously, everything I watch has a terrible ending. You watch the darkest stuff. It's amazing. I come to work in a good mood. I just watch mayhem all the time. Greg Jennings, 10 years in the NFL, a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Pro Boulder as well as joining me live. So it's no secret that Aaron Rogers has it out for me. I'm a big enough man to handle it. But I will say this. I will say this. I would give him the MVP. I don't think it's particularly close. And my theory is.
Starting point is 00:03:49 The media butchers this award. It's most valuable. Okay. Andy Reid is such a brilliant, and there's nothing against Matt LaFleur. I believe Andy could go six and ten or seven and nine with this roster. I think Green Bay is a four-win team without Aaron. So to me, Aaron is absolutely, this is the LeBron argument. I don't care about Westbrook's stat.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Valuable? LeBron and Aaron Rogers. So your thought about Aaron's year and the award itself and if he deserves it? Yeah, I 100% agree with everything you just said. And that's been my argument all along is the pieces and the personnel that surround both of these these candidates. When you look at Pat Mahom, Patrick Mahomes, you have so many skill guys around him.
Starting point is 00:04:36 You have two of the top five leading receivers in all of football and the tight-in, Travis Kelsey and Tyree Kiel on his roster, and we haven't even gone beyond them yet. And you look at the others, they're just so much better than what the Green Bay Packers have surrounded Aaron Rogers with. And now you bring up the head coaches who are both offensive play calls, I understand B'Enemy and what he does, but let's be real. Andy Reid is the mind behind a lot of that. Yeah. And so is Matt LaFleur. And when you pull these two coaches away from these guys, it's like, okay, yes, can they still have success with who was ever backing them up?
Starting point is 00:05:16 You look at Alex Smith and success Andy Reid was able to have before Pat Mahomes ever took over. Like, they were already built for this. And so Aaron Rogers, he even said it. When you take the acronym of, MVP, you remove Aaron Rogers from this Green Bay Packers team. We are not talking about them. They are not making the playoffs. This is no slight on Matt LaFlor, but what they have built is Taylor made for a guy like Aaron Rogers, and he has grown accustomed to taking and bearing on that weight and allowing them to still have successful seasons. People pay a lot of attention, and I think this is probably the right thing to do, but we tend to give the Packers or the Saints or the Patriots with Brady or the Steelers a benefit of the doubt if late in the year they play a bad game or things aren't clicking because we trust the structure
Starting point is 00:06:08 kind of the formidable kind of architecture of the organization. But I don't think Pittsburgh, that offense is not a playoff offense. They can't run. They're awful on third down. They don't throw it deep. It is so, so it's not efficient and it's not dynamic. So I do think the one one playoff team I look at and I think I would panic a little is Pittsburgh. But you played for a team in Green Bay. And go back to your career. Was there a year that you unraveled a little late and you deep down knew it, but there's a sense that you were the Packers and you were okay, your own career?
Starting point is 00:06:46 Because I look at Pittsburgh today and I think the only reason we're not saying, this team's not very good, is because of the brand, the Steelers. Yeah, it was the year we went 15 and 1, the year following the Super Bowl. We were on a great run up until we ran into the Kansas City Chiefs, a game we should have won and we lost. And then after that, things just started to unravel. You started to see a little bit more of the flaws that we had that we were overcoming early and we still overcame, but we knew going into the playoffs, if we weren't able to
Starting point is 00:07:21 fix or rid ourselves of them, they would. become our Achilles Hill. And it was. The New York Giants beat us because we weren't sound offensively on all running the football and throwing the football. And then specifically defensively, we were not able to stop other opponents from making the big plays. But when you look at the Pittsburgh Steelers, and this is why I don't panic for them, when you look at them, the way that they are built, they create so many turnovers and get the ball back to that offense that can score points. They just do it differently. And they can put up a scare to a defense, but they do it differently.
Starting point is 00:08:00 They don't do it the old traditional Pittsburgh Steelers way. And I think that's what's kind of alarming to so many of us. And we're not saying Ben Rothersberger throw for three, 400 yards a game. And the receivers, but they have dropped so many balls. But if you don't rid yourself of those ailing things, those drops, those unsustained drives, getting the ball in the end zone when you have goal to go. When you're in the red zone, you are going to falter in the playoffs. However, I like this team because they possess the ball, they play keepaway,
Starting point is 00:08:34 and then they have a defense that can get after the quarterback and apply pressure, not just sack the quarterback, but get after them with pressure, and they can get the ball back into the hands of their offense to give them more opportunities. So an interesting team is, and this happens every year, There's these teams that go into the playoffs, you know, the Green Bayes. We know who they are. The teams that are there, you know, we're going to see Rams over the next five years, mostly be a playoff team.
Starting point is 00:09:01 And then you get these teams that have a bad history, like a Cleveland Brown, but they write the ship at least momentarily. And then you get to the playoffs and you see this in the NBA and you see it in the NFL, playoff football is just different. And I imagine over the course of your career when Green Bay, went to the playoffs, you often had a buy, or you'd play a lower-seeded playoff team, and they were a little bit of an upstart. This was new territory for them.
Starting point is 00:09:31 And I feel that with Cleveland. Like they're going to end up playing like a Baltimore or somebody, and they're just going to be a little over their skis. Go back to your career. Can you see it in the eyes when you would face that upstart team in that they may have puffed their chest, but deep down late in games you could sense they'd not been here before and they weren't terribly comfortable in that space. Yeah, in the Cleveland Browns, they fit that description.
Starting point is 00:09:58 I like so much about the Cleveland Browns, but understanding how this game works, it looks really good in the regular season, up until you get into the postseason because all things that you've done earlier in the regular season, they count for nothing. Teams scheme you differently. the intensity level intensifies all of these things come into play that a team who has not been there
Starting point is 00:10:27 in decades they have no experience including their coaching staff like they don't have that experience i mean kevin stefansky i understand he was with the viking so he's been around it he understands it but he hasn't gotten to where they wanted to be and when you look at a team like this it's that it's those reps it's that experience colin that gives you that confidence to say this Cleveland Brown's team can make some hay in the postseason. I like them because their quarterback, Baker Mayfield, is playing better down the stretch. And he's a wild card. If he plays great, this team can make some hay.
Starting point is 00:11:05 If he does not, then it's all for not. Bears, Vikings, you're calling the game, so I'm not going to ask you for a prediction. Obviously, I'm just like you're the analyst for the game. But I will say this. the Vikings have been a team in my blazing five picks I've just stayed away all year I can't quite get a beat on them
Starting point is 00:11:26 they lose to the cowboys but then you watch them against Tampa and if they had a kicker they would have won that game I mean Tampa off a buy if they could hit field goals so you live in Minneapolis you read everything about them you drive around they're talking Vikings on talk radio
Starting point is 00:11:41 give me a beat on them what are they and what are they not Well, I mean, the record speaks for itself. They are a team that is on the fence. All year long, I've kind of been in the same mindset about the Vikings as you. I haven't been able to put my finger or place my finger on what is it about this team that they haven't been able to be successful this year. Understanding that they're young in the secondary, they're young in the back half,
Starting point is 00:12:10 and they don't have, you know, Danil Hunter up front applying the pressure and all of those things. but Mike Zimmer has always showed the resolve to get that defense to be one of the top 10 defenses and all the football. That has not been the case. That is where they have hung their hat and made their hay, and they haven't been as great defensively all year. They have made stints where they've been great. Offensively, they've been on a roller coaster. With the exception of after these last three weeks, this buy, after their buy, Kirk Cousins has been really, really good.
Starting point is 00:12:44 he's played winning football, and that's what has them in the position that they're in. However, when you are one way in teams see that, they approach you differently. They feel like I can punch you in the mouth, and we'll see how you respond. Will you even respond? And what we saw against Tampa Bay, this was a team that went down and punched Tampa Bay in the mouth, but then special teams, another phase that is forever so important in the waning moments of the regular season is definitely in the playoffs when you look at the Vikings history, and it cost them. And so you have to be great in all three phases.
Starting point is 00:13:21 You have to be solid. And the Vikings, they just haven't been collectively putting that complete game together all year. Yeah. No, I thought they out played Tampa for long, but certainly early in the game and the special teams, Dan Bailey Costum. Greg Jennings, 10 years in the NFL, Super Bowl, Pro Bowl. Good seeing you, buddy. Appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Yeah. Certain teams, and I, and I, feel this. I just don't have a beat on. Minnesota, I'll tell you another team is, I think once or twice this year I've taken them is the Colts. I loved them against Green Bath. I had a bad week that week, Blazing Five. That was my only winning game. But the Colts to me, I'm not quite sure what I get week to week. And the Vikings, I'm not sure. You go back and look at that Minnesota Tampa Bay game. You hit your field goals. I think Minnesota wins that game. That's why it was so kind of discouraging if you were a Bucks fan.
Starting point is 00:14:14 It was a win, but it felt so hollow. They got so many emotional breaks and special teams breaks. When a team misses a gimmie field goal, you can just see it suck the life out of a football team. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the game.
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Starting point is 00:15:01 Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, This platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators,
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Starting point is 00:16:24 waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table. right now. Thank you finishing that sentence.
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Starting point is 00:18:00 Enjoy with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Speaking of those Colts, they gave it to the Raiders last. week and now the Raiders need a win over the Chargers tonight to keep themselves in the AFC playoff race. Love this.
Starting point is 00:18:16 They basically need to win out. This is the second time Vegas is facing Justin Herbert and John Gruden has high praise for the rookie. He's everything you're looking for. Face him tough moments. He's been hit. He's been behind and lost games in the last second. He's come back every single week, comes back strong.
Starting point is 00:18:31 I think he's a superstar in waiting. He makes it look. Justin Herbert, the first giveaway is good. Great players. make it look easy. Watch his throwing motion. Now that one, he airs it out. But you'll see some of these throws.
Starting point is 00:18:47 He just, it just, he moves well. I think you could see it the first week with, with Herbert. He's just against Kansas City. Just his movement is easy. God, he's got an arm. Lord, he's got an arm. He's very fun to watch.
Starting point is 00:19:02 He has 25 touchdown passes this season, so he needs three more to break Baker Mayfield's rookie touchdown record of 27. Herbert in his first game against the Raiders was 28 and 42, 326 yards, two touchdowns and no interceptions, but the Chargers lost, 3126. The game-winning touchdown was overturned on review, if you remember. The Raiders defense, they fired their defensive coordinator, Paul Gunther, this week. Rod Marnelli will finish out the season. They are not doing well.
Starting point is 00:19:30 They're allowing the third most points per game, eighth-most yards per game, eighth-most passing yards for game, and they are tied for the second fewest sacks. They have no pass rush, only 15 sacks so far this season. They traded Kalilomack. They haven't had a pass rush since, but they used those picks to hit some home run. So they are predictably weak with pass rush. And to their credit, they have a lot of really good offensive players, and they're not paying most of them anything. So the trade gave them what they wanted.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Gruden's an offensive coach. He had a quarterback. He wanted to elevate the offense. He did. That's his side of the ball. But you give up Kille Mac. And two years, three years later, You don't have a pass rush still.
Starting point is 00:20:09 I just, I feel like we got a little bit excited about the Raiders. Oh, I did the last two years I have. I think I like the brand more than the team. I think I like Vegas. It's very possible. You know, it's funny about these two teams. We don't ever get the Vegas Las Vegas Raiders wrong. Every once in a while will still slip into San Diego Chargers,
Starting point is 00:20:27 but we very easily went to the Las Vegas Raiders. Oh, I think it feels, I mean, it was a perfect city for them. It's a great fit. Vegas, what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas and the Raiders have always been sort of anti-establishment. A lot of these moves in football
Starting point is 00:20:46 like I'm just, I don't get them. That one is a home run. I just can't wait until they can have fans in that stadium. It's going to be such a different experience playing there. So Baker Mayfield has been playing well recently and has led the Browns suing 9 and 4 record this season and he says the confidence
Starting point is 00:21:02 team is gaining from their success is fueling his personal performance. Playing confidence is where I'm at my best. So trusting these calls, trusting my eyes, and going through it, and, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:13 trusting my guys around me. Their remaining schedule is at the Giants, at the Jets, and then the Steelers in the last week, which is the game that I'm looking forward to the most. See, again, I think they match up with the Steelers. Fine. Well, I think they'll win they're next to,
Starting point is 00:21:29 and then we'll be looking forward to a really big week 17 matchup. So you know why so many people, people that from Cleveland say they hate me, I see how much they retweet and yell at me. Because deep down, it's hard to hate me because I picked you to beat the Ravens, I picked to beat the Steelers, I picked you to beat the Titans, I'm fair. We won't think of I dumped on Cleveland for clicks every day. But the truth is, I think they match up well.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I don't think they match it with Kansas City well, and I don't think they match up with Buffalo. They're back seven, they're back seven's weak. And so Mahomes and Josh Allen, I don't think they actually match up. match up with the Raiders at all. Remember, the Raiders took them apart. The Raiders, they don't have the personnel to stop like a rugs or a Waller. They don't. If you have a good quarterback and a line that protects him, they're really vulnerable.
Starting point is 00:22:21 But I think they match up with the Titans. I think they match up with Miami OK. I think they're a team that, depending on the matchup, is going to end up winning a playoff game. Also, Freddie Kitchens will be calling this game because offensive coordinator Jason Garrett has tested positive, so he will miss Sunday night's game against the Brown. This is in the running for one of my blazing five picks, by the minute. I have seven picks I get down to five. Finally, Taysam Hill got the Saints starting job over James Winston when Drew Brees was injured this season, and he signed a good job of the team to a three and one record in Breeze's absence.
Starting point is 00:22:57 But even though James is still the backup right now, Sean Payton said James will get an opportunity. to compete for the starting job whenever Drew Breeze decides to retire. All right. Having looked at how Taysam Hill has played so far, if Drew Brees retired next year, and obviously we haven't seen anything from James yet. I'd plan both in the preseason and figure it out. I don't think Taysam Hill is a franchise quarterback. I do think James Winston is a lower-end franchise quarterback.
Starting point is 00:23:26 So I think we were both surprised when Taysam Hill got the top. But as we've said before, unique or something. works for a period. And for four games, Taysom is a handful. But you're seeing with Taysam in the last two weeks, they've scored 21 points. So the output is coming down. So unique works. Noah's last. I got the Taysam move. But if I went to camp and I'm asking myself, I would split the snaps and see who looks better. And I give them each two starts in the preseason. I think the Saints are so interesting going into next year, just depending on what Drew Brees does. I don't, could you see Drew coming back for another year?
Starting point is 00:24:02 No, no. I just can't see it. No, he's looked shot. In a weird way, the Bridgewater replacement and Tassum is what makes him work. He was so done. Was it last, no, the year before last year. He was done by the end of the year. This injury is just so different than last year.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Like, this is a lot. He had, what, 11, 12 broken ribs? I don't even imagine, like, fracturing a finger. Think about that. A broken rib? He had 11. of them. No, thank you.
Starting point is 00:24:36 No, thank you. No, thank you. No, thank you. No. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lie News. I hand out my holiday
Starting point is 00:24:45 presents for NFL stars and best for last coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays and noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.
Starting point is 00:24:58 It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast, Superhuman, documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win.
Starting point is 00:25:24 A win is a win. I don't care which I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clipper Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from Batsy, basketball to college football or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes,
Starting point is 00:25:49 creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with a little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J.
Starting point is 00:26:41 And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed cracks. I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games.
Starting point is 00:27:32 And in recognition of mental health awareness, This month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the middle health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking. Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing. And we're still chasing it. And we don't know when we've done enough. Because people scoreboard watch.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross. Because you find it important to be a good person while you hear. here on earth? Are you a good person because you're afraid? Because that's two different intentions bro. Absolutely. And that's two different levels of trust. I want you to just really be a good person. Join
Starting point is 00:28:13 me, Keir Gaines, as we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast, Learn the Hardway. Open your free, our Heart Radio app. Search Learn the Hardway and listen now. Well, by the way, we will air our special herd for the
Starting point is 00:28:31 holidays, I believe, this weekend. it airs many times, so you will be exceedingly over Joy and I by about Tuesday as next week is Christmas week. Yep, it's here. So we work one day and Tuesday, and then we got some time off. You do. Oh, you guys don't? That's a bummer.
Starting point is 00:28:53 So we thought today some of my, it's Christmas time, I did some shopping a couple days ago. So some of the presents, Joy, I would hand out, as we roll toward the end up. end of the NFL season. I'm in a giving mood. Santa Colin? Santa Colin? Here we go. I want to hand out some presents. All right. What gifts would you give the Steelers' wide receiving corps? I would give them glue sticks for their hands to help with drops. 37 drops this year is the most in the NFL. It's ridiculous. Here's what's alarming. The only team to have 30 plus drops in the last two years. In fact, they've dropped 9.6% of their throws this year.
Starting point is 00:29:38 That's a high percentage. The only team to drop 9% or higher in each of the last two years. So a glue stick. What gifts would you give Carson Wentz? A seat cushion because he's going to be riding the bench if Jalen Hertz's opening performance is any indication. It's not just that he's struggling. That nice picture. But his completion percentage, Joy, is 57%.
Starting point is 00:30:06 And his passer rating 72. Like, that's worst in the league stuff. And the reality is 19 teams have fewer giveaways. Teams. You got to hit up LeBron and get one of those cushions he has for the bench. First bench, yeah. It's huge. How about Patrick Moms?
Starting point is 00:30:22 What's he getting? Not to get ahead of ourselves, but how about a trophy case? Foxbet has him heavily odds-on-favor. I mean, let's just not kid ourselves. First of all, you need a trophy case even if you have one. But when you're the favorite to win MVP and the Super Bowl, you've got to have, and then by the way, in about six years, he'll need to build a trophy room like Brady did after the Atlanta win. What gift would you give Baker Mayfield and Kevin Stefansky?
Starting point is 00:30:54 I think best friend necklaces. This is Baker's third coach. And by the way, Baker, look at those beautiful beef friends. Baker's got his career high in wins, his career high in passer rating. Baker's passer rating's 97. That's a real, that's a high-end passer rating. He's got the best TD interception ratio. Now, it does help, according to PFF, it's easily the best offensive line of Baker's career,
Starting point is 00:31:20 but you've got to give the front office and Stefansky some credit for that as well. So best friend, necklace. Do you guys do that? I haven't. You haven't? But Goulet seems like the type of guy that would really, tight was. I gave you one. You're not wearing it. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:31:37 What gift would you give Tom Brady? Bill Belichick and Josh McDaniels. That's nothing against Bruce Ariens, but he's 30 and 11 in the postseason with those guys. Doesn't that sound amazing to you? He's played 41 playoff games. He's won 30.
Starting point is 00:31:57 And by the way, Peyton Manning and Big Ben were in their prime. And Mahomes was at the end of his AFC run. That's a stupid record. What about Russell Wilson, your favorite? Well, let me think about this. A sous chef, the number two chef in a kitchen. So Russ is the chef, but he needs a sous chef, a helper.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Because the Seahawks have the highest passing percentage in the league, 61%. He's been sacked 40 times the second most. They have the worst passing defense, so they're always in shootouts. by the way, Chris Carson, who's a splendid running back, has missed four games. So he just, he needs a little prep help in the kitchen, somebody to, you know, when he's frantic and there's big orders, just, hey, can you give me a little head? It's very thoughtful. You always have one person that should think a little bit more about their gifts.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Pull them with that too. How I roll. How about Jerry Jones? I do love Jerry. I may criticize him, but I love him. You know what I'd like to get him? I'd like to give him a GM so he can retire from it. They've not drafted a Pro Bowl player in four years.
Starting point is 00:33:11 They have $66 million wrapped up, running back, quarterback, and a wide receiver combo. He has served as the de facto general manager since purchasing the Cowboys in 1989. And they're four and nine this year and they have not reached the conference championship since 1995. By the way, he still would own the team. course. Just wouldn't be the general manager of the team. You know, it's funny about that. So it's a pretty well-documented story that so when Jimmy Johnson and Jerry, they played
Starting point is 00:33:51 football or something at Oklahoma State, so he bought the team called Jimmy and flew him in and they took the job. Jimmy was in Miami. And so, again, this is, I'm not breaking news here. So the first several years, Jerry didn't meddle. Jerry was at one side of the building because Jerry put a lot of money up and didn't he was up against it like this was not a it was a cash flow issue they were terrible so Jerry was at one side of the building Jimmy was doing the football and Jerry never ever bothered him in the first two to three years they were both working 17 hours a day or more so Jerry was doing business and operations and getting Pepsi deals and sweet sales and for the first couple of years they didn't see it mean. And then Jimmy's just doing the football stuff. So it was really a good marriage. And then they start winning Super Bowls and the business is now rolling. Jerry can spend a little less time on that.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Charlotte's getting older. Stephen Jones, a family. He's got an infrastructure on the business side. And Jerry goes to Jimmy and says, listen, I own the team. I want to have some fun too. And that was the beginning of their problems. And that's when Jimmy said, listen, I'm a football guy. This is what I do. I'm going to, you know, Jimmy's like, I don't worry about your side. I want you worrying too much about our side. And whereas Jerry Jones did have an understanding of the Cowboys personnel to some level, he didn't really get NFL personnel. And so that was that, so if you look at where it all went wrong,
Starting point is 00:35:24 Jimmy and Jerry were in opposite sides of the building for a long time. When they started winning and the operations were now sort of in a groove and the money was flowing in. And Jerry's like, okay, I'm bored. And, you know, Jimmy's getting a lot of credit. A lot of credit. Listen, this is what always hurt the Lakers, is that Phil wanted credit and the players wanted credit and Riley wanted credit. And Jerry West, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Like, these are successful men. This is why dynasties don't last long in sports. Men screw it up. We do have those ego things to deal with every day. I know. I mean, I'm so glad I never got one. But from what I've heard, they're very difficult to deal with. Pesky. Discovery Plus, all the shows you love, favorite brands like the Food Network and HGTV,
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