The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 and Out - Bills-Dolphins Reaction, Wild Card Weekend, Arthur Smith gets heated

Episode Date: January 8, 2024

John reacts to the Bills taking down the Dolphins and earning the number 2 spot in the AFC and how impressive Buffalo has been since their 6-6 start, he breaks down each of the Wild Card games, talks ...about why the Eagles could be in trouble, and how it was a very bad look for Arthur Smith to get so heated after the Falcons-Saints game. 6:11 - Dolphins-Bills Reaction 14:32 - Dolphins 22:43 - Cleveland-Houston 24:28 - Miami-KC 24:56 - Bills-Steelers 25:37 - Green Bay-Dallas 27:08 - Rams-Lions 27:38 - Eagles-Bucs 33:20 - Arthur Smith gets heated 40:02 - Jacksonville's meltdown Follow John on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest. Check out Gametime - the fastest growing ticketing app in the US, and the official ticketing app of 3 & Out and GoLow -  for tickets to all of your favorite NFL, NBA, NHL, NCAA teams. Concert and comedy show tickets, too. Go to Gametime now to create an account, download the app and use code JOHN for $20 off your first purchase. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:14 John Middle Coth to read out podcast. What a night. Bills beat the dolphins and end up with the same record as the Eagles and win the division. The Buffalo Bills, who were 6 and 6, went 11 and 6, and are the 2 seed. What a comeback by them.
Starting point is 00:03:34 So the Buffalo Bills take out the dolphins who now have to go to Kansas City, which is supposed to be freezing cold on Saturday night, which is on Peacock, so make sure you guys get your subscriptions. So we will talk a lot about that game, Shaw McDermott rallying the troops, Josh Allen going from zero to hero, and Tua throwing a crippling season, regular season ending,
Starting point is 00:03:58 interception. We'll go through the wild card games. We know the matchups now, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday with the Philly Tampa back-to-back years in Tampa Bay. Probably ready for a new NFC South team, but this is probably last year, Tampa's going to make it, hopefully. No offense, Tampa Bay fans. I think you guys agree.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Not a great team. And a couple of thoughts on Arthur Smith and Dennis Allen. Arthur screaming at Dennis Allen at the end of the game. Derek Henry ending the Jags season, which if you're Mike Tomlin, was pretty awesome. And because it led you into the playoffs, but the Jags, what a letdown. You know, I have Trevor Lawrence all the hype,
Starting point is 00:04:37 and that's what happens. So all of our stuff's on YouTube, go subscribe three and out YouTube page. Obviously, this podcast, if you listen on Collins feed, make sure you subscribe to the three and out podcast wherever you may listen. We also,
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Starting point is 00:05:01 But first, here's the deal. I need you to go to your app store, whether you have an iPhone, whether you have an iPad, wherever you get your applications. And I need you to download a little thing. It's called Game Time, the official ticketing app of this podcast. Do you want to go to one of these playoff games?
Starting point is 00:05:17 I've been probably to four or five playoff games in my life and a Super Bowl, and there's just nothing quite like. You know, the Super Bowl is a little more corporate, which is really fun, especially if your team's there. The one Super Bowl I went to, it was the Broncos versus the Panthers. I didn't necessarily, I wasn't rooting for either, though I had a lot of money on the Broncos, so I kind of was. but I've been to Niner playoff games.
Starting point is 00:05:38 I've been to the Eagle playoff game, and there's something pretty special. So if you get the opportunity, if you live and your team is hosting one of these playoff games or your team is going on the road and playing in one of these playoff games, I highly recommend it. It's just, it's basically game seven.
Starting point is 00:05:54 You know, it's the NCAA tournament. Survive, advance, the tension is palpable. But I need you to go to game time and search those tickets. And when you buy a pair of tickets, promo code John, promo code John, $20 off, $20 off. In these inflationary times, though,
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Starting point is 00:06:33 And their season was over. Like if you didn't know, if you weren't a serious football fan and you didn't have all the scenarios and I just told you as you were sitting on the couch, you had it on mute. Whoever loses this game is going to go home, you would have felt that. It was palpable from the television. And let's face it, let's start with the bills. Because there was a moment this season when Ty Dunn, who I've known for a while, I like Ty Dunn. He wrote an article that would have been the definitive piece if the bills would have imploded
Starting point is 00:07:02 because at the time I think they were like seven and six. Maybe they were six and six. It was not going well. They were firing Ken Dorsey. They were circling the drain. They were looking like a team who was likely, you know, to go 8 and 9 or 9 and 8 or just missed the playoffs. And since then, they won five straight and now they're 11 and 6. Think about this.
Starting point is 00:07:23 The Philadelphia Eagles once upon a time were 10 and 1. The Buffalo Bills once upon a time were 6 and 6. They ended up with the same record. They're both 11 and 6. The difference is the Eagles are the 5 seed and the bills are the 2 seat. So basically, if they meet the Steelers, and we'll find out on T.J. Watt, they're getting another home game. Two home games in Buffalo, pretty big deal.
Starting point is 00:07:48 So, I mean, what an incredible mid-season turnaround by the boys in Buffalo, starting with Sean McDermott. Because after the article came out about the 9-11 pre-game speech, even though it was from years ago, you know, a huge part of that article was him just being super tight. You can see it on his face a little bit. But here's the one thing I like. In football, even when you're a great player,
Starting point is 00:08:12 you have to play under control. And the one Collinsworth was comparing Favre to Josh Allen. Well, Fav post-Holmgren was a major roller coaster. He wasn't exactly Mr. MVP. Still a great player at times, but it was hard to count on the guy. Why? Because as Collinsworth said, he had five interceptions and he still threw another.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Because there was no containing it. And Josh Allen in the first half was insanely reckless. Multiple red zone interceptions. The play at the end of the half, when he throws it over the middle, where the guy catches it like the three or four yard line and gets crushed at the one yard line and time runs out. And Sean McDermott just said that's unacceptable. That is not okay. that is reckless, that's losing football.
Starting point is 00:09:03 You wouldn't get that in basketball. You wouldn't treat the $250 million player like that. Because optically you're not allowed to, even though we're all watching it. And Sean McDermott crushed them at halftime on a sideline interview. And you know what I said? Love it. Because we're all watching it. It's crumbling in front of our eyes.
Starting point is 00:09:22 And this used to happen with Russell Wilson in Seattle. Everyone just went against Pete. post-L-O-B everyone just called Pete the Village Idiot Let Russ Cook The problem is you can't just depend on that level of play And Josh Allen is a version like Russ Times 5 because of his physicality as a runner And he's much more reckless of the football
Starting point is 00:09:44 That's why he is compared to FAR sometimes Right, but he's built more like John Elway And I thought in that first half I'm like, the bills are going to lose this game And the big reason is going to be Josh Allen And it sucks because I love the guy I enjoy watching him. And then in the second half, once they had that punt return, it was on like Donkey Kong and that guy took over.
Starting point is 00:10:05 And he had a run in that game that looked like Cam Newton on the play where they called the defensive holding to Jalen Ramsey. But part of football, unlike these other sports, is you need your head coach to be on your best player. Because your best player can play out of control. And in the sport of football, you get one game. You don't get seven game series. I don't get to make an error in the third inning in half.
Starting point is 00:10:27 have it not cost us. If I throw a bad pick in the red zone, that might lose us the game. This was not some 35-30 shootout. This was a game that honestly, once it got to 1414, you're like three points might decide this thing. It was, you know, both sides had a ton of dudes in the injury tent, in the locker room. They were losing guys. They were just dropping like flies.
Starting point is 00:10:53 So the holding on to that football, honestly, what saved them is those, those, Those turnovers happened in the first half. Because if that happens in the second half, they lose the game. You can't overcome that. So sometimes in a weird way, turning the ball over, even if it is an incredibly stupid turnover, as those interceptions were, it's easier to overcome it if happens in the first quarter, than it happens in the third or the fourth.
Starting point is 00:11:17 But you could tell Sean was hot. And Sean took a lot of shit this year. Like, Sean's clearly pretty good at his job. Right? He just is. Now, he's a defensive coach. can he get a little tight, even the fourth down play call, where there's nothing like trying to do the tush push
Starting point is 00:11:33 that only the Eagles can pull off, and everyone attempts to copy it, even if you have Josh Allen, who probably combined with Jalen, has to be one of the stronger, more powerful guys at the position in the NFL. It didn't look like he got it, maybe he got it, they blew the whistle for forward progress,
Starting point is 00:11:50 but here's what I do know, is the officiating crew had absolutely no clue where to spot him. Now, it looked like they kind of got it right, but completely guessing. I mean, just pulling out of their ass, yeah, right here's cool. I mean, this is for the division on the line. You got McDaniel and Fangio over there, their heart just beating out of their chest, and the rest's like, oh, just put it right here. You're like, what?
Starting point is 00:12:16 This is crazy. That is one crazy element of the sport is on the short-yard situations when there is, I don't even know how many pounds of huge. between the five offensive linemen, between all the defensive linemen, the linebackers, the quarterback. No one can see anything. It's like, let's just, maybe here. Even the play before, the details when it comes to officiating, if you and I, in our given jobs, were as poor with the details as the officials in the National Football League, we'd all be on the streets. We'd all be in the gutter. Because there was a play, a couple before the fourth down,
Starting point is 00:12:54 where Josh Allen they run a quarterback like power sweep, he's smart enough to realize I can't go out of bounds, he goes down. The problem was his hand touched the white. The clock should have stopped, but is no one fucking paying attention? Like, isn't that your job to watch the sideline? No one paying attention.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Now, you could argue the dolphins in a position, they don't have any time out, so they can't challenge it. So part of it's on the dolphins. Anytime late in the game, you are in a spot where you can't challenge because you have no timeouts with under four minutes left, that is on your operation. So they deserve some criticism there.
Starting point is 00:13:33 But it shouldn't be their fault that the refs miss a guy touching out of bounds. But tonight wasn't about the refs because Josh Allen contained himself in the second half. I would imagine Sean McDermick got on him at halftime. And then defensively, I'm going to read you the sequence in the second half for the dolphins because all I hear is how great this offense is. And listen, for a lot of games this year,
Starting point is 00:13:58 they've scored a lot of points, they've scored a lot of touchdowns. You know, they've accumulated a lot of yards. But when it really mattered for all the fucking marbles, because I got news for you. This team is not going on the road to Kansas City. I don't care if Brett Veach is playing wide receiver. He played at Delaware for Patrick Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:14:17 The stat speaks for itself. They haven't won a game in under like 40 degrees in decades. I was just out eating dinner, watching the fourth quarter of my girlfriend, and I kind of told her that stat. I'm like, they better win this game because they are not going on the road.
Starting point is 00:14:30 She's like, why not? I'm like, because they have to go on the road do cold weather places, and this franchise doesn't do it. It's like, oh, it makes total sense. How in Miami are you going to prepare to play in all those cold weather cities? Hit, you don't.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Well, here's what they did in the second half. Three plays, nine yards, punt. Four plays, 11 yards, punt. That's the one they took to the house tying the game. Three plays, one yard. punt. Three plays, three yards punt. And then the last series, he threw a pick. And he easily could have thrown a pick a couple plays. Here's what I will say about Tua. He is better than I thought
Starting point is 00:15:02 he would be. Last year, I thought he was closer to a below average player. He's solid. He really is solid. But tonight, you saw the difference of an absolute thoroughbred who can drive you nuts, who can be reckless, but who is a $250 million player. And then you saw Tua. It's pretty good. And listen, he made some really nice passes that Tyreek uncharacteristically dropped. Because I was thinking tonight, I would argue this. I think he's the third best wide receiver I've ever seen. Now, the argument tonight with the drops, probably not in my favor. But I don't think there's ever been a guy.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Beside Randy Moss, no one's gone deep better. I mean, how many guys besides like Jerry Rice, Marvin Hare, it's a short list, Antonio Brown is prime that could get open with ease. Any route. Go routes, hitch routes, ins, ins. outs, comebacks, deep outs, you name it. I mean, wheel routes, put them in the backfield.
Starting point is 00:15:59 He wants to get open, he can get open on every single play. He puts some balls on the ground and it cost them. But ultimately, Tua, if the play isn't scheme perfectly, and Tarek, who is truly, in my opinion, he's the third best wide receiver I've ever seen. Jerry Rice, Randy Moss him. I'd have him above Torel Owens. Because it seems like, you know, this guy is a consistent winner.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Torel Owens drove everyone nuts. And you could say like Tyreek might look at me like, wait, you're putting Randy over me? How many championships that I have? Let's never forget. I hope win one. And I, like him, one of the greatest offense ever, so was I. Remember watching me play? So like he'd have an argument.
Starting point is 00:16:37 His career does not look like he's slowing down. But the one thing with two is that ball floats. And anytime your ball floats, and that's Miami, where the weather tonight clearly wasn't that bad. What do you think happened when that floats in freezing temperatures and when the wind's blowing? It's just going to be very difficult to win. Now, I'm not acting like I would get rid of Tua, but it just, when I read people saying that like, oh, you just got to pay them, pay them what? Pay them what?
Starting point is 00:17:05 That's my question. Like, can I give them $30 million a year? Like, if I got to give them, if I got to give the Jalen Hertz contract, which let's face it, a lot of people are like, are we cool with this? Is this all right? Are we sure? And I like Jalen. And I would take Jalen over Tua every day of the week and twice on Sundays. But let's face it, this last couple of months, whether he's hurt, knee, now he's got dislocated fingers.
Starting point is 00:17:28 It's just, I promise you, no one's told me this, but Howie and Jeffrey don't sleep perfectly every night knowing that Jalen hurts contract right now. They're hoping it is okay. No one hopes with Josh Allen. No one hopes with Patrick Mahomes. They would sign that every single day of the week, even after those picks. fine. Josh's going to be all right. He's going to figure it out. You just don't think that with Tua. And to me, like, listen, Vic Fangio is an elite defensive coordinator. Miami is now a well-run
Starting point is 00:17:57 operation, a lot like the bills. Forever with Belichick and Brady, listen, it went viral probably a couple months ago when Brady made those comments about the NFL not being as tough as it once was, right? It just maybe, I forget the exact word and verbiage you use, but basically like the play's never been worse, just kind of talking shit about today's NFL. And Alex Smith chimed back immediately and was like, yeah, your division really suck. And it was like, well, Alex, I watched them play you a lot.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I watched them play everyone else who was good. Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Denver with Peyton, Indie with Peyton, and beat them all consistently. Now, the one thing they benefited a lot from is Miami, Buffalo, and obviously the Jets, for the totality of Brady and Belichick's time together was pretty consistently inept and not well run. Now Buffalo is really well run.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Now Miami looks really well run. The difference though of the two franchises, because listen, John McDermott's proven to be a really good coach. Mike McDaniel through two years, proven to be a really good coach. The quarterback is kind of the separate. We talked about it last night on the pod. Listen, I think D'Amico's a rocket ship. I was with the Eagles when we traded for him
Starting point is 00:19:13 after he tore his Achilles. He was never the same as a player. But a huge reason we traded for him was the character, the leadership, just the total package. And if he wanted a coach, like, he was going to become what he became. He turned out to be a coach and look what he is. But to Miko with an average quarterback is not in the playoffs. To be a good coach, like, listen, Phil Jackson's an awesome coach, but without Kobe, Shaq, and Michael, I'm sorry, if I give him a couple random NBA players, he ain't winning championships. Bill Walsh needed Joe Montana.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Belichick needed Brady. It's the way the sport works. And to me, McDaniel, there is a ceiling on what they're doing as long as they're with Tua. The problem is they're in the spot where he's good enough that you can't just randomly replace him, so you're kind of stuck with him. But now we're talking money.
Starting point is 00:20:02 And you know, you saw Burrow, you saw Herbert get extended. He proved he could be durable, and he definitely proved that he could be good enough to get you back to the playoffs. But part of the reason Jalen got a lot of, lot is he outduled Mahomes in the Super Bowl, right? He won multiple playoff games. What's going to happen when you're won and done in Kansas City? And you lose like 13 to 6 in negative 10 degrees, right? So I think the dolphins have a problem when it comes to their quarterback. Now you could
Starting point is 00:20:30 argue it's a first class problem. It's a good problem because they can still win with it. But in football, this is a business. This isn't pee-wees. We're not playing fantasy. Like contract sent. This is real life. You get a contract. Four years, you pick up a 15. year option. Well, this is fourth year. Next year is a fifth year option. Ideally, you don't want to play guys on a fifth year option because it's all guaranteed. It all hits your cap the same. It's why you extend guys. So you can, you know, basically manipulate the money on the books. When you franchise a guy or they play on the fifth year option, there's no manipulating the books. If the number is 28 million or 32 million or 18 million, that's the number on the books. Right? A lot of guys signed, oh, so-and-so,
Starting point is 00:21:13 sign for, you know, $120 million. And then like, what's his cap hit? Oh, it's $11 million this year, right? It's why the franchise tag, a lot of teams attempt to avoid it at all costs. Because you don't want to carry a big number for a player, especially when it's a quarterback on your salary cap. Because nothing you can do about it. The number is the number.
Starting point is 00:21:35 If it's $30 million, it's $30 million. Like, look around a lot of these quarterbacks right now. I bet their cap hits aren't $30 million, even if they have here. huge money. Deshawn Watson signed for $230 million all guaranteed. His cap hit this year was $19 million. So the Tua thing becomes complicated moving forward. And I don't like them at all this week. And props to the bills. And this is the thing about football. I say it all the time, most of our jobs, right? You're just kind of worried about you. You're kind of worried about you whether you work in an office setting no matter what you do. Right. Even if, you know, as the team does well, as the company does well,
Starting point is 00:22:13 but you're really just focused on yourself. Football is the ultimate team sport. So even if you are focused on your production and doing your job, it's about the totality of the group. And it's why it's so easy to insulate yourself if you do all like each other and you do have the talent when crazy shit happens. And that article was pretty crazy. I mean, it was just, it talked a lot of shit about it from a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:22:35 I mean, it wasn't, tight-down's not making the stuff up. But they rallied around him. If they didn't like the guy, they would have gone the other way. but they just rattle off win after win after win after win after win after win and now they're fucking hosting back-to-back playoff games if they handle business which I expect them to do against the Pittsburgh Steelers and let's talk about that a little bit
Starting point is 00:22:55 I'll just fly through the wild card game the wild card weekend or they're calling it like forget the name crazy wildcard weekend or super wildcard weekend it's just wildcard weekend Cleveland at Houston like I said Houston's an amazing story they've had an awesome year and C.J. Stroud and D'Amico,
Starting point is 00:23:14 if they were a stock, I would find a way to bet six figures on them right now. But I think it ends. And I think they lose. And I think Cleveland is a tough matchup because defensively, Jim Schwartz, the physicality, it's a little different animal than Indy,
Starting point is 00:23:31 who I got news for you, their defense sucks. So I like Cleveland in that spot. Now, the wild card is Flacco. Flacco's had a remote. remarkable year. And his comeback story is, if Damar hadn't taken on death and beaten it, literally overcame death. Flacco wouldn't win the comeback award. They might rename it Joe Flacco. It's one of the great comeback stories I've ever seen. 38, 39 years old, hadn't been good for five years, was on the fucking couch, was taking his kids to school every day, played in the league last year, so it wasn't
Starting point is 00:24:07 like he'd been out of the league a couple years, was literally on the Jets. Look, Terrible. A couple years ago was on the Broncos. Looked terrible. It looked awful. Then he comes in. He's just throwing touchdowns after touchdowns, leading a team that was about to implode because of all the quarterback injuries to the playoffs easily, or even in week 18, they didn't even have to try.
Starting point is 00:24:25 So you never know. Maybe he has a clunker in him. If he has a clunker, C.J's rolling. Maybe they could pull an upset because I think the Browns are favored. It's like minus one and a half. But I think I like Cleveland in that spot. Miami at Kansas City. I couldn't like Kansas City anymore in this spot.
Starting point is 00:24:43 I don't care how crappy their wide receivers are. I don't care how weird this season has been. Kansas City is not losing at home and freezing temperatures to Mike McDaniel and Tua. This offense isn't set up to go in that environment. So I'm shorting the dolphins hard in that spot. I don't like, I love the Chiefs this weekend. Bill's at the Steelers. As of recording this, I don't know T.J. Watt status.
Starting point is 00:25:12 I think it's fair to assume he will attempt to play if he's able to move around. Obviously, when you spray in your MCL, it's a problem. So, I mean, obviously there's a good chance he doesn't play. I said it from the jump. The Steelers never should have been in that position. They should have been in a position that T.J. didn't even need to dress. Now, obviously, they had to win to just give themselves a chance, and then today the Titans took care of business,
Starting point is 00:25:38 I think the Steelers, a lot like the Dolphins, are won and Adios. It's been fun. See you later. Green Bay at Dallas. This is a ratings bonanza. I mean, these are obviously the Cowboys are the biggest brand. Packers are a top five brand. I think Packers are about to run into a buzzsaw.
Starting point is 00:25:59 And as I told Colin earlier today, Jordan Love is sweet. Jordan Love is so much better than, I ever thought he could be after he had like his first good game. Obviously early on in the season, I probably talked a lot of shit. He was terrible. Well, he hadn't played. And I probably jumped the gun. But it's football.
Starting point is 00:26:20 You can only give an opinion based on the games you see. The second half of the season, that kid has fucking been awesome. He has looked like a top 10 NFL quarterback. Today, what he did is, I love the Packers this weekend. One, Justin Fields can't throw from within the pocket. He's thrown five times. touchdown since the middle of November. Everyone given, you know, the anointing the bears.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Like, have you seen who they're playing one? And offensively, are you guys out of your mind? You guys not going to be on the team next year. I bet on them simply because, one, it was in Green Bay. And two, I just thought the Packers had a huge quarterback advantage. And it was on full display today. Now, I think the Packers are going to run out of magic here. I think this is a tough matchup.
Starting point is 00:27:04 In the Dome, obviously the Cowboys played better there. I think Dallas lights them up. because I don't think the Packers have any chance to stop them. I do expect Jordan Love to make a couple of plays. If I had to make an early prediction, 35 to 20. Rams at Detroit. I got to know who's healthy for Detroit. That's my first day because every time I looked up today
Starting point is 00:27:26 and I had them in one of the boxes because their game didn't matter. Dan Campbell thought it mattered. They looked like they were losing a guy every other play. Even the guys they didn't necessarily lose, like St. Brown's, you know, crutching off the field. So I'm not just going to pick the Rams yet because I think a lot of people are, but I understand leaning that way. I do think everyone wants to pick against the Eagles. And I think this, because the Eagles were playing so shitty, they threw them on Monday night.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Because ideally you would not want to play on Monday night football. But the Eagles don't deserve to play anywhere that they want to play. And I think Nick Siriani is in major trouble. And I've been saying this from the gentlemen. I told Colin this, I believe this to my core. I am not looking for a CEO in the NFL who is 40 years old. I'm hiring you, one, because I think you can evolve as the leader of the entire team, if you've never been a head coach, and most young coaches have never done that.
Starting point is 00:28:28 But because you have an expertise, I watch Matt LaFleur this season, especially the second half, call plays with his young quarterback, and go, you know what Matt does? He impacts every freaking game. I watched Iber Fluse have to fire his buddy because who knows what happened, take over the defense. They trade for Montez Sweat and you go, you know what? Is Iber Flues some great head coach?
Starting point is 00:28:50 No clue. But is he a good defensive coordinator? Yeah, he is. I like my, I watched Sean McVeigh and Kyle Shane Hayne. We'll back up quarterbacks today to call plays against each other. I like my young coaches to call plays. I don't even think that's too much to ask. Why am I hiring?
Starting point is 00:29:06 to lead the group. If I wanted a leader, I'd go ask Warren Buffett if he has a good leader. I'd go hire a bunch of coordinators. I just do not know what Nick Siriani does. No freaking clue. None. Someone DM me the other day. He's like, you know, you threw out like, you know, he's kind of like Tomlin or Harbaugh in terms of just leading the crew. It's criminal to compare him to those two guys who have both been doing it for a combined like 30 plus years. Is Nick Siriani some great motivator? Because sure as hell doesn't look like it right now. And listen, I got nothing against them.
Starting point is 00:29:38 I'm not trying to crush him. This isn't personal, right? I just don't know what he's doing. If I was Jeffrey Lurrier, I just, what's going on here? Because I watched the offensive coordinator, which is his side of the ball, go to Indy, and him and Gardner Minchu won two less games than us. And if it wasn't for the running back dropping the ball, they would have lost one less game than us.
Starting point is 00:30:01 So the Colts team, and I understand divisions and, you know, the Eagle schedule, listen, I'm not saying it's apples to apples, but the point of the story is, you're telling me that Colts game, that Colts team was one drop pass potentially away from 10 wins, and we just won fucking 11? I got a $250 million quarterback. I have the best offensive line in football. I got weapons everywhere. I got a high-price defensive line with a bunch of high draft picks.
Starting point is 00:30:27 What is going on? The Eagles have to, listen, I've been in that building. Tensions are going to be high this week. high. Now, I don't think Tampa could beat him. Because Baker Mayfield's limping around. I don't think Tampa's any good. The crazy thing is the best team in that division right now is the Saints. If the Saints were going into the playoffs, they would have more momentum. It's harder to win in New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:30:52 We saw Tampa last year. I guess this team is better, but the Cowboys went in there. Now, the Cowboys, that version of the Cowboys was better than this first. version currently of the Eagles, but won that game like 75 to 10. Remember, Dak threw like 10 touchdowns, the best game of his career. This game could be tighter. This game get weird. And any game right now, the Eagles play, they can lose.
Starting point is 00:31:20 There's no way around that. Any game, the Philadelphia Eagles play, they can lose. And honestly, you're not shocked when they're losing the game. I was a little shocked today when it got to like 24-0. but when it was 7-0, it's like, I could see the Eagles being in for a game. Even when it was 14-0-0. You're like, I could see this.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Maybe it was 17-0-0. I forget the score sequence. Once it got a 24-0, I thought, this is kind of crazy. Are they just legitimately not even trying? Completely mailing it in? Don't coward this. Watch football all day to day.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Most teams playing pretty hard. Giving it they're all. Trying. Watch the Ravens. yesterday. Think about this. The Ravens against a divisional rival against a team they hate. Eagles and the Giants hate each other. Ravens and the Steelers really hate each other. Ravens, bunch of backups. You know what they do? The Steelers? We're going to give you all you can handle. We're going to play. You know why? Because organizationally, we hold ourselves to high standards.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Organizationalally, when we play a game, whether it's Lamar Jackson, whether it's Ray Lewis, or whether it's some practice squad guy that gets elevated that most fans have never heard of that played at some Division I AA school. That guy is going to be tasked with playing his balls off and doing everything humanly possible to win the game. And then you watch Siriani's team today. You're like, what is going on?
Starting point is 00:32:47 This is an embarrassment. And I'd understand if they had nothing to play for. But at the time, early on in the cowboy game, they were down like 10-7. Like, hey Dallas, you guys don't need. need to try either. The Eagles have done. Wave the white flag. So I just got the Siriani situation, you lose to Tampa, it's all on the table. That's all I'd say. He loses the Tampa and he's lost. Let's see, they were 10 and 1, and now they're 11 and 6, so he's 1 and 5 in his last 6 games.
Starting point is 00:33:18 He would go 1 and 6 in his last 7 games and losing the first round to Todd Bowles in Baker Mayfield. I'd say he'd be in some trouble. And another guy who's in trouble and by the time you're listening or watching this might be relieved of his duties. I thought today was an embarrassment for Arthur Smith. I understand in Peewees in high school football, when you're trying to influence people under 18 and help give them life lessons, you know, even though it wouldn't bother me, I get it. You know, high school coaches, you don't want to run up the score, you know, the discrepancy of talent sometimes. But in Division I football, and definitely, you know, high school coaches, you don't want to run up the score, you know, the discrepancy of talent
Starting point is 00:33:57 sometimes, but in Division I football and definitely in the sport where everyone is paid, a lot of guys paid enormous sums of money, there is no such thing as running up the score. It does not exist. So even though they went to a victory formation and Jamis in the huddle decided to get Jamal Williams a touchdown, his first of the year, I don't care. it should not piss you off. Because as James said, listen guys,
Starting point is 00:34:31 we were up 41 to 17. 41 to 17. And for Arthur Smith to go to Dennis Allen. And honestly, kind of pisses me off that Dennis Allen apologized. Even if deep down he was mad at James, I would have told Arthur Smith,
Starting point is 00:34:50 kiss my ass. You know why Arthur Smith's really mad? One, he's coaching for his child. and two, Dennis Allen and Derek Carr just curb stomped him in front of Arthur Blank, whose over 80 doesn't have that much time left, has to know his job's in major trouble. I liked Arthur Smith as he was in Tennessee. I remember that stretch of football where they went on the road to New England, and they went on the road to Baltimore, and they beat the shit out of Harbaugh and Bill Belichick.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Ended the Tom Brady era was an excellent offensive coordinator. As a head coach has been really bad. and sometimes, like listen, his dad created FedEx from nothing. His dad is an elite CEO. You know what Arthur Smith is? Just a good number two. There's nothing wrong with that.
Starting point is 00:35:35 One, he, obviously he doesn't, family money. Who knows how they break it up? Regardless. That doesn't, I see too many people like, oh, his daddy's money. Who cares? Arthur Smith proved, it's not like his dad was in football.
Starting point is 00:35:46 He was a good NFL coach as an offensive coordinator. Awful head coach. And this year was really embarrassing what they did with Desmond Ritter, but today was the icing on the cake. And getting back, James is trying to be political.
Starting point is 00:35:59 James is a good guy. Dennis Allen, if I was the Saints, we missed the playoffs. I clearly kind of liked the guy. Today, like, you think Sean Payton would have walked up to Arthur Smith, even if he was mad at James and said, hey man, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:36:13 When Arthur Smith said, that's F and BS, Sean Peyton would have said, F you, kiss my ass. Because Arthur Smith, this is everything. Everyone's getting paid. If you can't stop me, quit, take your team into the locker room.
Starting point is 00:36:28 This is not, no life lessons on Sunday. There's no, this is all about scoring as many points as you can, winning as big as you can, especially a guy like Dennis Allen is trying to save his job. So Arthur Smith easily gets the loser of the week. I can't even overstate how just awful that is. If I was an Atlanta Falcons fan, I would want him gone so fast Monday morning. That's embarrassing for that puts a stink on the franchise.
Starting point is 00:37:03 That's what he did. He put a stink on the franchise. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th.
Starting point is 00:37:44 You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment,
Starting point is 00:38:12 and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fan,
Starting point is 00:38:46 so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought-provoking Star Wars-related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of tauntons and wampas on the ice planet hot, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith rule of two. Listen to stuff to blow your mind on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And last but not least, the Jacks, I've been saying this about Caleb Williams forever. hype is something that just grows on itself when it comes to athletics. Hell, I mean, it happens in the stock market.
Starting point is 00:39:27 We've seen it happen with AI. It happens in all sorts of industries. It happens in politics. It's something that just gains momentum and can't slow down. And when it comes with prospects, once you hit a certain kind of threshold, there's no stopping it. Caleb got there like a year ago. It's like, oh, this guy's the number one pick. He's going to be the number one pick.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Happen with Zion. Happen once upon a time, like LeBron's and Bryce Harper's. Some guys live up to it. Andrew Luck. Some guys like Tank for Tua, turns out, no, you shouldn't tank for Tua. You'd rather have Justin Herbert. And obviously, Joe Burrow, a behead of him, no-brainer. The hype on Trevor Lawrence is some of the strongest, and this is not just media.
Starting point is 00:40:11 This is from the NFL we've ever seen. And he simply hasn't even come close to living up to it. Today, down the stretch of that game, he was horrendous. The game ending in completion was something you'd see like from a third string quarterback. It wasn't even close. And I say this all the time because we're so quick, well, what's he going to have to get paid? How much are you going to have to pay him? Who cares?
Starting point is 00:40:35 You don't have to pay him yet. Brock Purdy, what are you going to have to do once you pay him? He still got two years on his contract. What the hell is the rush? Patrick Mahomes won an MVP and won a Super Bowl. Okay, I'll pay the guy. Do you think the Eagles wish they might have just played it out with Jalen Hurts? Would they have saved some money?
Starting point is 00:40:51 And listen, I understand why they paid him, but everyone's always in a rush because if you pay him early and he continues to be sweet, you get a discount. Mahomes, Josh Allen. But if you hit some bumpy roads, it's an utter disaster. And to me, Trevor Lawrence right now, I'm not even offering you a contract. I'm picking up the fifth-year option. Like, it played itself out. you're not getting a contract offer.
Starting point is 00:41:16 You're under contract. I'm picking up your fifth year option and you will play out the fourth year. And if you ever want that huge money that a lot of these guys get, you better start winning some big time games. You better start playing like the player that you were hyped to be
Starting point is 00:41:30 because right now it's not even remotely close. You know, the coaching, I'm just watching him. A guy can be open and he skips the ball. Maybe he's injured, maybe he's not, but it's just like, it's just not even remotely close to being good enough.
Starting point is 00:41:42 and the Titans a day and the Vrable thing is one of the more bizarre things out there because Titans clearly want him to back feels like Vrable doesn't want to be there he's not going to get fired but he might want to leave I don't know we'll see how this plays out over the next couple days he didn't want to lose today and he had that team ready to go
Starting point is 00:42:01 and they hit the Jags directly square in the jaw and the Jacks folded like that game felt over about midway through the game Derek Henry who clearly just played his last game for the Titans. They gave him the mic after the game. He talked to the fans.
Starting point is 00:42:18 He called the greatest eight years of his life. Honestly, he had one of the great four or five-year runs. And as a running back I've ever seen, especially in this modern era when no one runs it, but just an awesome player. He destroyed them today. Had 150 yards and was just manhandling them physically. And the one thing if the Jags,
Starting point is 00:42:35 obviously, if they ever want to be taken seriously, the quarterback has to play at a much higher level. And God, their team is. soft. I mean, that was, I'm glad they lost. Though I don't think Pittsburgh deserved to get in with the Trubisky debacle this season, I did not want to watch the Jags again. I wanted them to go away. So props to the Titans for winning that game and allowing us to watch. I think Bill's hand are Pittsburgh, but that's to me just a better game for our viewing pleasures Sunday morning. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite on humor.
Starting point is 00:43:18 me with Robert Smygel and friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but in current. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the Look Back at a Podcast.
Starting point is 00:44:16 From 1979, that was a big moment for me. It was big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year.
Starting point is 00:44:33 I mean, it was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Thank you.

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