The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 and Out - Caserio Hot Seat, Rodgers/Jets Holdup, Saquon Hardball, Snyder Disaster

Episode Date: April 14, 2023

John explains why Texans GM Nick Caserio’s days in Houston could be numbered, why the Jets and Packers still can’t get the Aaron Rodgers trade done, if Saquon Barkley is overplaying his hand by re...fusing to be franchised, and why the end of the disastrous Dan Snyder era in Washington had to happen. Subscribe NOW and follow Middlekauff and The Volume on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest content. It's always FanDuel for the best wagering action! #volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:54 Concerts, comedy shows, obviously NBA playoffs, NHL playoffs. I got you covered. Take advantage of the deal right now. Where should we start? The Rogers Jet Saga will never end. But I do think one hot topic right now is, the Houston Texans in this situation of their general manager and what they're going to do with the number one overall pick. Let's start with the GM. Their new head coach, Tobico Ryans, just got a
Starting point is 00:03:23 six-year contract. And his coaching mentor, the only guy he's ever worked for as a coach, was Kyle Shanahan. And one thing that the 49ers were huge on when they fired Paul Key and Chip Kelly and started over. They wanted two guys to come in together because a huge reason for their lack of success had been the lack of cohesion with their general manager and head coach, right? Harbaugh, bulky. And then bulky Tom Sula failed. Balkey, Chip Kelly wasn't working. They wanted two guys to come in at the same time and work together. Why? Because no different than our personal relationships, professional relationships, chemistry, respect, and really having the same amount on the line matters. So, Casario, who, listen, I've never met the guy, everything I've heard,
Starting point is 00:04:18 hard worker. I think he knows what he's doing. He negotiated an awesome trade with the Cleveland Browns to get all those first round picks, all those picks to get rid of Deshaun Watson, a guy that was never going to play for them again. So I give him credit. Now, there are things that he does, like, I don't love my general manager on the headset with my head coach, whether that head coach, you know, I understand Belichick utilized him, but Belichick was the GM. And he kept doing that when he was in Houston. Now, when he hired David Kelly, listen, I worked with David Kelly in Philly. Nice guy. But that was one of the most embarrassing hires in the history of the league. Now, in fairness to him and the Texans, they were a joke at the time.
Starting point is 00:04:58 No one would touch their job. Last year, I can't quite figure out. Hiring Lovie Smith, that's that's a terrible hire. I mean, we all knew it at the time. He can't be your head coach in 2022. He was, they were god awful. But he wasn't got awful enough to get the number one overall pick, won the game at the end of the year, and screwed up their chances, right?
Starting point is 00:05:16 So now they're drafting too. Well, when they hired Damico, who had been with the Texans before, obviously Casario, you would think would be all in on the guy. And I assume he is. Who's not? D'emico is a star.
Starting point is 00:05:29 He was a stud player. He was a stud quality control guy. He was a stud position coach. He was a stud defensive coordinator. I would bet on a guy like that to be a stud head coach. Because that's all D'Amico does is shine. But we've seen these previous hires like, does Casario want more of a puppet? And now these reports coming out that like,
Starting point is 00:05:49 Casario's days may be numbered. Now is it just simply he's going to get fired? D'emico going to push him out. Is it as simple as the owner is going to give all the power to D'Amico? He can hire whoever he wants. There are some people that think Casario may just be over. and wants to go back to New England, an area where he's more comfortable,
Starting point is 00:06:06 maybe he doesn't want the job anymore. I don't know. I don't have the fucking details. The reality is you can't operate your organizations like this. And I think you're going to see this in Denver. The head coach, once you give him all the power, and right now, these guys make all the money,
Starting point is 00:06:21 they make way more than general managers. You have to have them on the same contract path as the GM. So when picks don't work out, so when players don't work out, or vice versa, So when things go well, everyone gets all the credit or everyone gets all the blank. But right now, when you have things off kilter, it becomes a problem. Because things, especially when you're not any good, inevitably go wrong.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Now, has Casario's time gone well in Houston? Obviously, win-loss record, not at all. But if him and D'Amico are on the same page, to be a good general manager, you have to have a good coach. I don't care how great you are at making moves. Howie Roseman is one of the best wheeler and dealers, if not the best, in the league. Brett Feach is a fantastic general manager. Has Andy Reid. Howie, like, turns out Seriani, pretty damn good.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Doug Peterson, not bad, right? So when you get a good head coach, it makes you look a lot better as a general manager. This is not baseball. GMs don't get to set the lineup and call the place. That's not the way it works. The coaches do that. You don't have much impact on game day. So this notion, the last couple years, hiring those guys, even if two years ago with Cully wasn't totally his fault because no one will take his job, the levy thing didn't make much sense.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Now, this hire makes a lot of sense. And the other thing Damico knows, when you get a long-term contract, because there's a lot of talk, you got to take a quarterback, you got to take a quarterback. Well, what if you don't like the quarterbacks? Like, that's been Ballard's thing the last couple of years. Everyone keeps saying, you got to draft a quarterback, you got to draft a quarterback high. Well, what if I don't like the quarterbacks that are being drafted high or I? I have the opportunity to draft with my picks. What am I supposed to do?
Starting point is 00:07:59 Take a quarterback, so I get an applause for my fans on draft night. And then when that guy can't play, them and the media are all going to want me fired. So I always agree with the notion of take a guy you like. Like if you don't like the guy, now, that doesn't mean you're going to be right. But when you get a six-year contract, that gives you a runway, you know, if you don't feel too comfortable with a certain player to take a guy next year, to figure it out as time goes. and D'emiko saw Kyle Shanahan, who his first year, do you know what he passed on?
Starting point is 00:08:30 Patrick Mahomes. Passed on Patrick Mahomes. Took Solomon Thomas. Didn't age well. Like, I think he'd like that one back. But ultimately, because they built a good team and they figured out the quarterback position with some help plug and play guys,
Starting point is 00:08:44 three years of success out of the last four. And D'emiko saw that firsthand. So I don't think the Texans are going to be forced into taking a quarterback, even if it's, you know, D'emiko's choice because one thing he's learned is like, not just buy you time, but you can build it the right way. Because most people are never going to draft a Patrick Mahomes or even like a Josh Allen. But if you have a really good team, you can get a guy that's middle of the road or slightly better and be really competitive.
Starting point is 00:09:13 I'm not a huge Kenny Pickett guy. But why does he have a very good chance to succeed? Because year and year out, the Steelers are really talented. They're very, very good, right? At a lot of positions. They have a lot of impact players. If you put Kenny Pickett on the Houston Texans, they would suck. If you put Kenny Pickett on the Chicago Bears, they would blow.
Starting point is 00:09:31 But next year, like, I'm sure I'll pick the Pittsburgh Steelers to win 10 games. And I think Kenny Pickett's like a Mac Jones type player. Why? Because they have a lot of talent. They have good coach. And that's, if you build your team that way, it's easier to pivot. Now, obviously, the Texans are starting from, you know, the ground up that they don't have much, if at all.
Starting point is 00:09:51 And when you start there, if you force a quarterback, and that guy's not good, it's a major problem. And even if you pass on a guy and that guy becomes good, if you build the team the right way and land a lot of players, it'll buy you some time, right? The way you get fired is you pass on Mahomes, you pass on Josh Allen, and your team continues to suck.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Like you have no players to show for it. And I have a lot of faith in Demico Ryans. I have no clue what's going to happen with this Casario situation. I wouldn't blame D'Amico if he wants his own GM in there. I wouldn't blame the owner, even though, like, let's face it. I think it's easy with owners in sports to be like, patience, let's blow it up. Remember, Sam Hinky, tank, tank, tank, start over, you know, rip out the screws and let's build it from the ground up. What's easy to do for a year, maybe even two, and then it starts getting ugly.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Why? Because the fans complain. And guess who your owner hangs out with? Other rich people that are also just fans, they're talking shit. And you start getting Nancy. So if Casario, who had this big picture plan, and like I said, negotiated a fantastic trade, is quote-unquote forced out, like it shows you. Patience is never guaranteed in the league.
Starting point is 00:11:04 And things can change at the drop of a hat. And it's why coaches have always told me, like, damn, you're going to take that job as an offensive coordinator? Well, yeah, they're going to pay me a three-year contract at $1.2 million a year. It's game-changing money. I can't turn it down. Even if I fail, I'm super rich, right? And so I think that these situations are complicated. They're never easy.
Starting point is 00:11:26 It's been really, really ugly. And I think it just comes down to in this day and age that the coach just has way more juice than the personnel guy, just consistently. Because at the end of the day, they make way more money. And in the hierarchy of any of our jobs, the guy making the most money usually has the most pull. And especially if you're figuring out between two individuals, the guy, guy, you're paying 3, 4x, the other guy, you're going to lean to what he says.
Starting point is 00:11:58 The Rogers Jet situation. What a bizarre, weird, just ultimate NFL saga, right? That Rogers and the Jets feel like they're destined for each other, both organizations acknowledge the Packers, we all agree. He is never playing for the Green Bay Packers again. The Jets generally, manager has said multiple times once last week on stage with a drunk boomer, really funny video if you find it, then Aaron's going to be here. Like, it's, that's pretty rare in trades. Now, a lot of times, there's not some like ongoing saga with a trade. So it usually just either doesn't happen or it happens.
Starting point is 00:12:39 It's hard for the personnel people, the coaches, whoever, to kind of talk about it while it's going on because it usually goes on behind the scenes and then it happens. That's not the case here. like this is the most public trade, I think in like NFL history in terms of the process of it. And I think it all gets down to this. Do both sides want the deal to get done? And I think you could use that philosophy for anything in life. Listen, listen, living with my girlfriend in the last six, seven months, who's a real estate agent,
Starting point is 00:13:10 her job is not necessarily selling homes. It's really negotiating the homes, right? With her client, with the other agent's client, and just finding some middle ground. And if both sides want to get a deal done, even if they're apart, the deal inevitably always gets done. Some contingency gets waived, price gets dropped, something gets added, it gets done. If one side does not want to get the deal done, usually when it falls apart.
Starting point is 00:13:39 And it's why a lot of trades don't happen, I would say. Because one side's like, yeah, we'd be willing to trade this player. And it's like, we'd love to have this player. We'll offer you this. You're like, yeah, it's not quite enough. Like how many things in your life, if you think about it, from a bicycle to a pair of shoes, to your golf clubs, to your lakehouse, to your car, to whatever, do you be like, yeah, I'd be willing to sell for the right price? I'd say most things in our life, right? Like, I'm looking at some bikes.
Starting point is 00:14:05 I'm looking at some TVs. I'm looking at my computer right here. Like, if you said, hey, John, I'll give you $2,500 for that five-year-old, well-used Apple MacBook. I'd say, here you go. Here you go. If he walked up to me and said, you know what, John, I'll give you $1,000 for your laptop.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I would say, obviously not. It's not even worth $1,000, but I need it for my job. I don't want to waste the hassle of going to find a new one, sending it all up. I would say no. Where a lot of deals that fall through is kind of that. Like, yeah, I'd think about it.
Starting point is 00:14:38 We'll get to the right price. And then it happens. Like the reason that Carolina Panthers and the Chicago Bears executed the trade is because the bears, were willing to trade the number one overall pick, and the Panthers blew their fucking socks on. Right? So it ended up being a relatively easy to do,
Starting point is 00:14:55 especially once they threw in DJ more. They would not have traded them to the Panthers if all the Panthers were willing to offer. It was like, hey, listen, we'll give you a one and three twos. They'd say no. And I think this Rogers Jet situation is both sides, one really wants the quarterback and the other can't stand the quarterback. So now they're negotiating the price,
Starting point is 00:15:13 even though the execution of the deal is already done. like the Packers are. Aaron Rogers is never taking another snap. And the Jets do not have a choice. He has to be their quarterback. They do not have other options. So now it's just like we're kind of arguing over the semantics of the deal. And Charles Robinson reported that the Packers are adamant. I want your 24 first round pick. We're cool with giving, you give us one of your second round picks this year and we want your pick next year. And honestly, if I'm the Jets, it's like, listen, if he's going to be on my team for three years or we win the Super Bowl next year, I got no problem giving you my
Starting point is 00:15:46 2024 first round pick. Let's do some contingencies here. But I can't just blindly give you my 24 pick. He literally just said when he got out of the darkness retreat, I was going to retire. So this is a guy a one-year rental. Now, even if Rogers is a one-year rental, there is a lot
Starting point is 00:16:03 of value there. I'd argue to the Jets, if you knew right now he was a one-year rental, you could still justify giving two-toes. Because if you just got to the second round of the playoffs. The AFC championship won the division. The value that has to your franchise is, is very, it's hard to quantify, right? They haven't been in the playoffs in like 13, 14 years.
Starting point is 00:16:26 They're on one of the longest, I think now that the Kings made the playoffs, the New York Jets are now officially the longest active playoff, you know, missing streak. So just Rogers for a one-year rental has value, right? Now, how much value is, we can argue that all day long. And clearly that's what they're arguing over. Now, the one thing that I would just happen, I would say happens in any negotiation is, is there a deadline? Right. Is there a deadline? Like my girlfriend just sold a house yesterday to a couple. Well, the couple is coming out here because he got a job as a doctor. And it starts at the end of the month. So they got to figure out a place to live. Just like a lot of people that are selling their homes. Same thing. Someone died. Someone got a divorce. I did a walk through
Starting point is 00:17:10 the other day. Went to look at a house thinking about buying it. It was like, why are they selling the house? It's one of the first things you ask for. They're like, well, they just got to divorce. Someone's got to pay the other one. Right. So this, there's a deadline here. It's the draft. And it's not even actually the first round. It's the second round because it's pick 42 and 43. This trade has to happen by one of those two picks if you're going to get, you know, a pick this year. Right. So I think that the trade is more likely to happen, not just draft week, but probably Friday. of the draft. Now, potentially it could happen Thursday, but given that the Jets don't have to give their 13th overall pick, it's kind of just a staring contest with some still time remaining.
Starting point is 00:17:50 But we know the outcome of this. Aaron Rogers is going to be on the New York Jets. And Aaron Rogers is, and Jordan Love is going to be the quarterback for the Green Bay Packers. Right now, they're basically just arguing and listen, it happens. We've all been in these situations of some pride, some ego, some, I want to quote unquote win the deal. The Packer side for sure. And if you're the Jets, you're just trying to pay as little as possible to get the asset that you know is inevitably coming to you. So it just, this trade just feels very Aaron Rogers, feels very New York Jets, clumsy, weird, public. Just, I don't know. I don't ever remember anything quite like this.
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Starting point is 00:20:13 I looked it up today. He's not going to sign his franchise tag. Obviously, he's mad he wants a long-term deal. And I always find it funny, like, when an employee, a player, whoever, someone who struggles for a while, then all of a sudden, like, has some positive momentum and then starts making demands.
Starting point is 00:20:32 It's like, you know, Sequin, you played 15 games in 2020 and 2021 total. You ran for less than 600 yards in 21. And last year, you know, you were good, but let's not act like you were Walter Payton reincarnated here. Like, if you're going to draw a hard line and be like, I need some money, I remember last year, right, in the off season, it was like D.K. McCaff, A.J. Brown, Debo Samuel.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Like, you know what? These guys got pretty compelling cases. Debo Samuel literally carried the 49ers to the NFC championship game to the NFC by himself right. A.J. Brown was dominating. Absolutely dominating. D.K. Metcalf had like 29 touchdowns through three years. Like these guys have really good arguments.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Like, Seyquod, you've been a banged up running back who does not really pass protect. Like, you're very talented. But to think that you can just draw this hard line in the sand, if I'm the Giants, like, they would piss me off. You're not going to show up to O. TAs? Listen, we like you. You're a good guy. You're a good player. But it's not like you've been banging out four straight years of kicking everyone's ass. You got injured and then you came back and
Starting point is 00:21:42 you were like a show of yourself. You look pretty damn good this year, but you're still kind of a flawed running back. I would not consider you the total package. And the history of paying running backs, as we all know, is very hit or miss. So I just always like when players just constantly produce and then it's just like, yeah, I'm ready to get paid. And the team's like, yeah, we're ready to pay you. Then when guys like one year wonder or miss a bunch of time for injury and there's like, I've been this player the whole time. Well, now you actually have it. We got four or five years of data. Some have been hits. Some have been misses. We have injury concerns. There are two sides to every negotiation when it comes to these type situations. And honestly,
Starting point is 00:22:23 like, I would lean on the giant side. Like I would not give into this. And I would, I don't think it's a great look for Sequin to just kind of not show up. You know, like, I understand if you told me Travis Kelsey or Nick Bosa or someone like that didn't show up, it's like, yeah, produce every single year, dominate. Bro, you haven't really been dominating. I kind of forgot about you for a couple years. A couple other NFL stories. YouTube TV has obviously officially, they have a Sunday ticket and the price points came out.
Starting point is 00:22:55 It is $340, basically $350. If you're a YouTube TV subscriber, it is $450. if you're not a YouTube TV subscriber. And based on what we used to pay, 1.5 million of us, I did it for the first time last year. And I, you know, it was easy, the digital package, you know, from DirecTV, the NFL Sunday package, which was $300. Now, I'm biased.
Starting point is 00:23:22 I have, I have this office in this complex where I'm running, right? I rent an apartment and I rented basically a studio apartment and I just turned it into an office. And I got a couple TVs on the wall. And I said, you know what? Every, you know, the condo I'm renting out, I got Comcast. Where we're living, we got Cox or whatever. I was like, I've always been, when I grew up, I had direct TV and then the dish. And I want to be a cord cutter. I want to try it out. And I had friends that said, you should try YouTube TV. So I did. I have YouTube TV currently. And I've had it since I've been in this office for about six months now. And I love it. Like I, I have very, very impressed. rest. And whenever I buy my house, which I was thinking about today in the shower, if I bought a house tomorrow over under amount of TVs in the place, if it was three bedrooms with an office, I mean, we could be looking at like 10 TVs. And YouTube TV would be a lock to get my business. 100%. I would have, I would get YouTube TV moving forward. I'm a big believer in the product to someone now that you use it for six months. So I've been saying for a while, the NFL was always going
Starting point is 00:24:28 to start trending this way, right? They got in with Amazon. Now they're in with YouTube. which is owned by Google. Like, this is the way of the future. And this is, in a weird way, still a niche, right? There's only 1.5 million people that get the Sunday ticket. So this is not nearly as important as even Amazon getting Thursday night. Now, Google, who is the parent company, obviously, paid $2 billion for this. If you just do the math, you know, average out, like just on the Sunday ticket alone,
Starting point is 00:25:01 somewhere between like $550, $700 million, depending on how many subscribers get it. It's hard to know, but they will make well under the $2 billion a year that they paid for it. But the one thing they will immediately get right is a large percentage, I would guess, of people that had direct TV, and that's the way that they got the NFL package,
Starting point is 00:25:20 will now switch to just YouTube TV. So they will get people to become subscribers to the monthly thing, which is really what they're rooting for. So I was always a believer in these streaming services, getting involved in this because this is what they do. Like, I mean, last year, when you don't have like Roku or it on Apple TV, I just got the app on my smart TV for the Sunday package.
Starting point is 00:25:50 I couldn't watch more than one game at a time on my television. Yet on my PC or my iPad, I could do the Box and 4. right and that's just because direct TV is just this is not their business right their business is not streaming and constantly progressing and constantly being proactive
Starting point is 00:26:09 and figuring things out that's what internet companies do I would expect now I'm not saying it's going to be perfect it might be a little rocky at first but I think big picture this thing is going to be badass it's going to be incredible
Starting point is 00:26:21 also it's very very easy to use and the other thing is this is the future so one day day, all of our stuff will be streamed. Now, maybe that's CBS streaming. Maybe that's still NBC streaming, which is Peacock, but that's where it's all going to be. I can't stress enough. And anyone listening to this knows people with young kids, when you ask them like, what channels they watch? They don't watch any of it. All they watch is YouTube. It is crazy for us older
Starting point is 00:26:50 people on 38. Anyone listening to this 45, 50, whatever? Like the power of YouTube, and I consume way more YouTube than I used to maybe five, six, two, three years ago. I've never consumed more YouTube and that continues to grow and grow. But like, this is just where the consumer is. So it's going to work. I think it's going to be good. And it's, it's probably going to be pretty innovative, which is also a key anytime you're just kind of moving forward in this, this new landscape. The other thing that happened today was Dan Snyder. I don't know if it's official, but it's sold, it's like trending that Josh Harris is going to get the the commanders. It feels a little bit like anti-climatic
Starting point is 00:27:31 because we knew Dan Snyder was probably never coming back. Somehow they booted them. Just one of the most embarrassing ten years you'll ever see. I mean, it's been a complete disaster from every angle. It really has, right? The team has pretty consistently sucked. They have not been good. They have not been an entertaining product.
Starting point is 00:27:52 They have not won. The owner constantly been in the headlines for just terrible things. I mean, asshole, bad guy, screwing up. It just hasn't worked.
Starting point is 00:28:05 I mean, there really isn't an element to this team in the Dan Snyder tenure that would be, you know, overall. I mean,
Starting point is 00:28:13 they've had individual seasons where they've made a wild card or whatever, but they had the moment with RG3, but the overall consistent talk about,
Starting point is 00:28:22 this team has just been negative. It has just been bad. And to rid themselves of this guy, however they did it. And there was collateral damage. I mean, John Gruden got fired for the football team's investigation. Think about that. The Raiders coach got fired in the takedown of Dan Snyder. The cheerleading, just scandal after scandal after scandal after scandal in a division full of like, I mean, the Eagles going to Super Bowls, winning Super Bowls. The Giants have won several Super Bowls over Snyder's time, the Cowboys who have underachieved, but still are consistently in the mix, in the regular season, in the first round of the playoffs, that it's just nice to get some new blood. Now, that doesn't guarantee a shit. It doesn't. You know, there's no guarantee that
Starting point is 00:29:07 the Panthers and David Tep are going to win anything. There's no guarantee that Haslam and the Browns are ever going to do anything. But you pay this much money. You obviously have a lot of incentive to do well. These owners now paying these enormous amounts of money, you know, obviously Ron Rivera's on the clock officially. Whenever this deal goes down, you would expect him to have to make the playoffs at minimum to keep his job. And even then, who knows? I mean, maybe Josh Harris would want new people in, but we no longer have to talk about Dan Snyder because it's just, it just became kind of an exhausting topic. It really, like, what else are you going to say about it? I don't care. And I feel if you're some diehard, you know, commanders, football team,
Starting point is 00:29:49 Redskins fan, they've changed. their name. Think about that, like three times in the last four years. It's just a team that needs kind of to take a deep breath, some new blood. Like, ultimately the Broncos, I guess they needed new blood in the sense they hadn't been winning, but
Starting point is 00:30:05 if they just would have had the sisters of Pat Bowlin or his daughters, you know, the family, like, if they had all got along, it wouldn't have been that big a deal. If Paul Allen's daughter and family, whoever's involved in that, like just kept running it, like, yeah, it's fine. in Seattle. It felt like the football team commanders. Again, I get their names mixed up because
Starting point is 00:30:25 they've had fucking a million of them just needed to be detonated. And that's what happened. Now, we'll see if that turns into more wins, more relevancy. I don't know. But no, no team needed a bigger, just refresh of just 20 years. And there's been, you know, the Browns were in that mix. I think the Raiders have been in that mix. Other teams over this period of time, the internet age, when the league has never made more money, it's never been more relevant. I always find it funny when people are like, the league is better when, and usually that's teams that were good in the 70s and 80s
Starting point is 00:30:58 that haven't been good lately. It's like, no, actually, that's not true. The league has never been better than now in terms of viewership, in terms of interest. Now, you could argue if you're like a, you know, a Washington fan, it was better in the 80s, right? Or if you're a Raider fan, it was better in the 70s and 80s than it has been now, for sure.
Starting point is 00:31:15 But in terms of the league, the Patriots used to be irrelevant. Then they became an absolute powerhouse and drove ratings. The Kansas City Chiefs, you know, for 15 years since Andy got there, or until Andy got there, right, in the internet age, weren't doing that much. Now they're a bohemist, right? So in this day and age, it's not about legacy. It's about what are you doing for me now? And I think that works in any business, but specifically sports. I mean, the Warriors sucked forever. Then they got Steph Klan Draymond and became a powerhouse and do big ratings, like they're the
Starting point is 00:31:46 LA Lakers and win a lot of championships, you know? It didn't necessarily, matter that for 25 years, they had sucked a lot and been completely irrelevant because we move on faster than we ever have. And we'll see. It's a big market. They really like their sports there, right? The nationals did really well when they won the World Series. The Washington Wizards have mainly sucked. The capitals of Etchen have been very, very relevant. So if you win, they will come. And they just need to start winning some more games. I think they got some talent. Like, I watched their team a bunch last year.
Starting point is 00:32:24 They got a really good defensive line. The running back that got shot, Robinson, Stud, McLaren, Baller, other receivers. Is it Crowder? I mean, they got multiple offensive weapons. The defense got some players. They got Chase Young coming back. I'm bullish. I was impressed.
Starting point is 00:32:42 I thought they were quarterback away last year. So, exciting times if you're a Washington fan. The volume. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel. Help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.
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