The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 and Out - Changes in Philadelphia, Raiders hire a GM, Harbaugh to the Chargers?

Episode Date: January 24, 2024

John dives into the Eagles needing to find a new OC, would it be best for Sirianni to handle the play calling duties himself. Also, the Raiders have hired Tom Telesco to be their new GM, how will he and Antonio Pierce pair together, what's the hold up with the Chargers hiring Harbaugh, and Does Dan Morgan have a chance to succeed in Carolina? Later, John answered your questions on this episode's mailbag segment. 5:19 - Eagles need a new OC 10:47 - Raiders hire a new GM 14:32 - Harbaugh to the Chargers? 17:04 - Titans have a new Head Coach 19:32 - Dan Morgan hired in Carolina 21:04 - Is Atlanta going to hire Belichick 27:56 - Mailbag 28:11 - Why do people forget about Burrow 30:00 - How does Dennis Allen still have a job 32:06 - Should Jordan Love get a big deal 37:20 - People discredit Purdy 44:37 - Seahawks coaching search 46:42 - Is Purdy actually good Follow John on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest. Check out Gametime - the fastest growing ticketing app in the US, and the official ticketing app of 3 & Out and GoLow -  for tickets to all of your favorite NFL, NBA, NHL, NCAA teams. Concert and comedy show tickets, too. Go to Gametime now to create an account, download the app and use code JOHN for $20 off your first purchase. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and the offense looks dramatically worse, even statistically at points during the season, it wasn't that bad. The eye test was bad. And Jalen definitely was not the same version of the guy we saw last year. And let's face it, there was a stat I saw today that no team, either the guy got promoted

to become a head coach or was fired, has the same offensive coordinator from 2022. So in a two-year period, every team in the NFL has a new offensive coordinator. Think how crazy that is. And it kind of makes sense, right? Because it encompasses being around the most and the highest paid guy on your team. And if he's not the highest paid guy that usually means he's on a rookie contract

or a guy you're trying to replace. But the guy that every team is trying to find a max. player at. And that guy, fair or not, and I would say in 2024, it's very fair because how much the game is predicated on throwing, the emphasis and the urgency on that side of the ball is an all-time high. The other thing is, when you get a good defensive coordinator, the guy might not be hired. Right? Like, Mike McDaniel does not need to worry about Vic Fangio going to become a head coach. He's never getting that shot again. Andy Reed is not losing sleep that's. Steve Spagnola is going to become somebody's head coach, even though he's been one of the

better defensive coordinators in the league the last couple of years. Doesn't have to think about it. If Steve was an offensive coordinator and the Chief's defense was their offense for the last two years, he'd be interviewing everywhere. Like there is an, and listen, it's justified, but that position, that having that ability to call plays and influence the quarterback feels like from an owner's view and the front office's view, not a 50-50 proposition than to the other side of the ball. It feels much more like it's 80, 20.

And the league reflects that. And your time in that position is never going to be more short-lived if you do not produce. You will get run out of town immediately. Now, it's football. Coordinators have always been fired. But it feels like the leash that you have is not very long. I mean, Brian Johnson had been on the staff. The quarterback likes him.

People seem to like him. And it was like, it would have been the most shocking thing ever if the guy got a second chance. But it also, this reflects a lot of teams in the NFL. When you lose multiple coordinators and your team is good, even if you're not Eagles going to the Super Bowl good in 2022, it's hard to replace those guys. And you can easily get into a position where you hire the wrong people. And you make mistakes,

whether you think a guy's ready for the job, whether you think you hired the right guy, whether there's some influence by some of your star players, and then you get halfway through the season, you're like, we're screwed. This is not going to, this is a problem. And I think with the Eagles is a good example. I think we knew kind of fast.

I think we knew really quickly. Now, for them on the offensive side of the ball, as their offense, you know, as the season went on, felt like it was taking a step back. Shane Steichen was having a lot of success with a backup quarterback. And defensively, they were clearly a disaster. I think there was another story.

Not that this is shocking, but Matt Patricia won't be back either. So now Nick Siriani, and this is why him and Howie talk on Wednesday, like his whole plan is he just needs two good coordinators. And if he does not have two good coordinators, he has no shot. And listen, most coaches need a good coordinator. Like Matt LaFleur would be better off if he had a Vic Fangio or a Jim Schwartz on the other side. But the offense is his baby, right? Just with McVeigh or Andy Reed, like, did you notice on Sunday in Buffalo? Who was reading in all the play calls with the big thing in front of his

face, the big menu of place? It was the big guy, the big redhead from Los Angeles. Andrew Reed. So it's like when you have a head coach who influences one side of the ball and calls that you don't find yourself in these predicaments where you feel extra pressure, it's hard enough for replacing a coordinator. It's difficult. Right? And I would imagine that the Eagles, they interviewed Ron Rivera. Now, I'd be stunned if they hired Ron Rivera, though Jeffrey Lurie and his wife and Ron and his wife are very close friends. Obviously, Ron had worked for Andy way back in the day. There are some connections there, but I would imagine Wink Martindale would be a guy to keep an

eye on. Offensive coordinator, no clue. Maybe it's revealed tomorrow Wednesday. Siri Isaac, I'm going to call the place. We're going to bring. an offensive coordinator to be more of what Frank Reich was to Doug Peterson. Obviously, if that's the case, we already know he's going to be under the gun heading into the next season. That would light the fire pretty hot. I mean, that would be pretty intense. I don't necessarily expect that to happen, but it's definitely on the table.

The Oakland Raiders officially named Tom Telesco, their general manager. and I guess anytime you hire a coach first, especially when it was a situation like an interim coach, I didn't really happen. I just, I guess I assumed they would make the interim general manager, the next GM, champ Kelly. But reading, you know, Vic Tafer has covered the Raiders for a long, long time, and a couple other guys for the athletic who do a really good job. There have been articles for the last week that Mark Davis was not comfortable having two guys who have never been in this position

holding those two roles. And he's had two first-time GMs from Ziegler and before that Mike Mayock who made some pretty terrible personnel moves and made some moves that clearly you knew right away you would like to have back. And I wonder if, listen, that he was backed into a corner,

it kind of had an NBA feel to it where his best player said, if you don't hire Antonio Pierce, I'm going to demand a trade. Don't totally blame Max Crosby. I'm Max, like, listen, if you don't hire the guy I want, I'm fucking over this. This sucks. I don't want to play here anymore.

Which would have been a major problem for the Raiders because, one, he's just an awesome player and two, like what he represents and clearly like he's one of the loan positives on the Raiders over the last couple years. But listen, Antonio Pierce, I've said it over and over. My only question is, in an offensive league, you get a guy that knows nothing about offense, and you have no quarterback. So the other side of the ball is such a major question mark. I never questioned like, could he lead?

Like, that's something he's been doing probably since he was 10 years old. That's a natural position for it to put him in. Same thing with Gerard Mayo. Same thing with Mike Vrable. Same thing with Damico Ryan. Certain guys just got that. That's the least of his worries, right? It's just going to be about the other side of the ball.

And they're interviewing offensive coordinator candidates, which is obviously a huge hire, but they still don't have a quarterback. And it's not like they're drafting in the top five. How are you going to get one? Do you trade up? That's going to be a huge area to be discussed for a, but I understand why they hired Tom Telesco because the other guys they were interviewing had never held that job. And you can't have Antonio Pierce that was a couple years ago

was basically a recruiting coordinator and an assistant coach for the Arizona State Sun Devils to all of a sudden being your head coach in the NFL and not have an infrastructure around him to help. And I think hiring Tom Telesco who's done the job for a decade, now you can nitpick his moves. You can nitpick everyone's moves. From Belichick to Howie to John Lynch to John Snyder. Everyone makes bad picks. But I would say over the course of his career, like he's a pro. Now, some of the coaches, this is the other thing, like am I putting all the coaches on him? You know, there were rumors years ago that he wanted dayball, that the organization wanted Brandon Staley.

I don't know. I'm not, you know, cowards, boys with him. I don't know the guy. I've always respected him. I think he's a pretty solid general manager. But to be a good general manager, and this was one of his downfalls with the Chargers, you're only as good as your head coach. So, to my knowledge, they don't have a working relationship.

Clearly, they've never been around each other. Maybe they've known each other in passing a little bit from a scouting perspective, maybe through Arizona State. But this relationship has to work. And if you're Tom, you got lucky in the sense that most GMs don't get a second shot. Unless your name is Bill Pollian or Ron Wolf. I mean, usually GMs, this is not coaching. Where a lot of coaches get two, sometimes get three shots.

Most GMs get one And especially when you have a long period of time Like Tom did and the Chargers And he had like three playoff appearances Right it's not like he had Well he won the one Super Bowl Like no You know so this is a lucky opportunity

To get a second crack at it And this is a tough job Because the next thing I was gonna go into Is Harbaugh There are so many rumors out there I've heard this from people in the NFL for three weeks Everyone thinks he's going to the Chargers Now Harbaugh is a great wild card

Right you never truly know till the pen and the paper is signed. He's like, I'm coming. Like, I've said all along. If you just told me there's a report, Adam Schefter, Harbaugh told the team, I'm coming back to Michigan. I wouldn't be shocked, right? If you tell me, Harbaugh, sign with the Chargers.

Be like, okay, totally saw that one coming. But he's one of those guys that go multiple ways. It's pretty clear it's the Chargers are bust at this point. But like, until you tell me he's the Chargers head coach, I, that, what he has at Michigan's pretty special. obviously with his parents around him, how good the program is. Now, it's much easier to leave because of having won the national championship. But a lot of these coaches, and we'll get into Belichick here in a second,

it's clear what they're asking for. Like, this isn't, like, Jim Harbaugh's, the cost of Jim Harbaugh is $15 to $18 million. It's more about, like, how much are we paying my staff, who's the personnel people that I have to answer to, who's in charge of the roster, everything that I've become accustomed to doing at Michigan, which is run like an NFL program, just like Ohio State, just like Georgia, just like Alabama, just like LSU.

I want these things to happen here too. And I need yeses before I sign the contract about how much money I'm going to make. I'm going to make a lot. Welcome to football coaching for good coaches in 2024. So clearly they're working on that and for Jim to feel comfortable, but all signs point to him going there.

And then this gets back to the Raiders. of like, so Antonio Pierce would be in a division against Andy Reid, Sean Payton, and Jim Harbaugh. Like, it's pretty difficult. That's really, really difficult. Like, it's pretty hard. Like, Jonathan Gannon showed up this year to the NFC West. It had Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVeigh, and Pete Carroll.

Like, it's not an easy division. So I just think that if that goes down, the pressure, that Raider situation, you've got to find a way to get a quarterback and figure out offense. Because, yeah, you'd be like, well, the Broncos don't have a quarterback. Well, their head coach is the play caller. So I feel somewhat confident that they can figure it out as they go. You know, at the end of the day, the Raiders are going to be a culture-led operation with Antonio Pierce, but he's not calling the offensive place.

And you're in a division with, obviously, Mahomes, who's going to go down as like the second greatest player of all time, Herbert, who if he gets Harbaugh is going to be better. And I would imagine the Denver Broncos figure something out at the quarterback position. Last night when I was eating dinner, it surfaced that the Titans and Rand Carthin had hired Brian Callahan, who is the son of Bill Callahan,

and who has been the offensive coordinator for the Cincinnati Bengals since I think that group got there in 2019. And obviously has been the offensive coordinator during Joe Burroughs time. I didn't know much about him. beside the name, and I text a buddy who had coached with Brian Callahan, loves him, swears by him. And me and this guy have a good relationship, like, if a guy sucks, he'll crush.

If a guy's good, he'll, like, he has nothing, there's no agenda here. He was very, very high on him. Now, you never know, but listen, I, I understand it. Offensive guy, your play caller, a football guy who's been around in this entire life, someone that's well respected around the NFL, someone who comes from a very successful organization who's been around a big time quarterback. So I don't have some crazy take on this one besides,

yeah, totally understand it. Makes sense. I mean, the type guys I would interview, especially if you're the Titans and you're not going to hire, you know, some $15, $20 million coach. He's a guy that maybe strike lightning in a buck. Maybe you get your Zach Taylor or Matlifloor. And that's, I think, kind of what they're hoping for here.

And you definitely get a guy who I think one issue that they, you always pivot, right? Once you, if you're ever in a relationship with something and she does something that you don't like, your next relationship, the person usually does the opposite. It's no different in football coaching. Right. When you have a guy who's a huge personality, complete, and when I say asshole, I mean that in a good, positive football way, but can just be a lot, usually go the opposite direction the next time. I saw it when I, with the 49ers with Harbaugh to Tom Sula, right?

No different. Bill Belichick to Gerard M. watch Gerard Mayo's press conference and go oh no wonder they like this guy and I would imagine the Titans and you know the organization was looking just for someone to be a little easier on a daily basis now here's the problem in the sport of football that can get you beaten that can get it be fast like sometimes that quote unquote dick or the a hole is doing it for a reason it's kind of needed so that there's going to be a lot of pressure on this guy replacing Vrabel I understand they haven't won in the last couple years but

went to the playoffs a lot, and we're very competitive there for a while with Ryan Tanyhill. Dan Morgan was named the general manager. When I close my eyes and think Dan Morgan, I think the University of Miami and like the White Ray Lewis. That guy was incredible in college. I mean, I feel like in college, he's one of the best defensive players I've ever seen. Just a dominant, dominant player, cool guy. I've met him a couple times in the scouting world. I've just kind of followed his career from afar.

Very, very difficult job. Very, very hard. I mean, you're working for an absolute nut job. You're working for a guy that just at any moment could fire every single person in his path. So I understand if you're Dan Morgan, you play there. You know, you're part of the city. But it's a risky job to take, right? Because it could go poorly just because you work for some of these crazy owners.

They can derail your career. They really can. And this feels like a situation that I would bet against, just because until we're proven otherwise, I don't see how you don't bet against David Teper. You're like, listen, if the guy wants to invest my money, he can have every penny. I trust him to do that.

When it comes to his football operation program, coaching staff, front office players, I expect weird stuff to happen all the time. So until he proved some normalcy, I would not feel very confident. But what's Dan Morgan named GM? Maybe he's crazy enough to handle it. A lot of reports in Atlanta, and we talked a little bit about this yesterday, about Belichick and a lot of pushback internally.

And their incumbent GM, some of the people, you know, that are close to Arthur Blank, don't want any part of him, which makes sense. And we talked about, if you have a job, you wouldn't want a guy to be hired over you that would threaten your job. Not that he's replacing you, but that he won't need you or he won't listen to you or your power will be kind of irrelevant.

So if I were all those people and had their roles, I wouldn't want Bill Belichick either. Because within a year, if Bill just gets us to 10 and 7 and we're in the first round of the playoffs and we win a playoff game, if Bill goes to Arthur, listen, Arthur, I played nice this first year because I tried to, right? I wanted to. I wanted to show you that I still got it,

but we just won a playoff game. We won the division, we won a playoff game. I want Billy, Jimmy, and Rich gone. They can all see that coming. So of course they're going to want to do, because every day I look up, Atlanta is interviewing someone else's assistant coach. Because if you're those guys, you want to hire one of those people.

You want to hire Rahim Morris. Not because he's a bad candidate, but because, like, he doesn't threaten your job. Bill does. And it's going to be fascinating to see how it all plays out. Because everyone that's kind of close to the NFL that covers the NFL was like, Arthur Blank is going to want Bill Belichick. And it felt like he does. And now it feels like he's getting a lot of pushback to people that he clearly likes and respects.

I would have guessed originally that Belichick was a lock to be the head coach, but the longer this goes, who knows? I mean, they're the Falcons for a reason. Yeah, last but not least, some coordinator interviews that I find pretty interesting. The Saints, who had fired their offensive coordinator, interviewed both Kubiak's son and Brian Greasy, who are Kyle Shanahan's kind of right-hand guys on the offensive side of the ball. I think any time that Zach Robinson, Sean McVeigh's right-hand guy,

listen, I think it's pretty clear. If I ran an NFL team and I was a defensive coach, and we need an offensive coordinator, I would go to the Packers, the 49ers, and the ramps. And I would want to implement what they do offensively because that is the most quarterback friendly. And especially if I got Derek Carr, we should be able to run aspects of that offense.

We have good players on offense. We should be able to function in that offense. He can play under center, play action, get rid of the ball fast. This doesn't need to be a complicated offensive strong. structure. So I think when you see these Rams and 49er guys interviewing, I don't see how you're not all over. Right. Like Shane Waldron was named the offensive coordinator with the Bears. Makes a lot of sense. Had coached with the Rams. Went to Seattle. Know that scheme. So even if I get Caleb Williams, everyone's like, can he play out of the structure of the offense? In that offense, it's relatively

basic, right? You know, ideally, you run the ball a lot, and there's a lot of play action, layup throws. Now, it's the NFL, stuff happens, and you're going to need to make plays out of your you know what, but if all things go well, it's a very quarterback-friendly offense. And then from there, the guy can kind of build his own, I don't even, you know, reputation as a player, right? But ideally, if you plan the construct of that offense and we got some good players, which the bears do have, should be pretty successful. So totally understand that higher.

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get your podcasts. Okay, Middlecoff mailback time. You guys know the drill at John Middlecough is the Instagram DMs wide open. It's just my name, two Fs, fire in those DMs, get your question. answered here on the show. I doubt it was intentional, but saying beating Mahomes is a notch on your belt

that no one can take away from you. Mere seconds after failing to mention Burrow, as one of the guys competing with Mahomes this era, is a contradiction too funny not to point up. Sometimes I forget about Joseph, partly because he's just, you know, he got hurt this year

and he's out of sight, out of mind. But obviously Joe Burrow, elite player went healthy, and we saw a couple years ago beat him. Last year went toe to toe with him. Obviously, Burrow, you never take away beating them at Arrowhead. So, the only reason I don't mention him

is because he's been so out of my mind for three months. But that game he played this year against the 49ers, I was like, the Bengals are coming. And then in two weeks, everyone got hurt and they were not coming. How common are lateral moves for coordinators? I would love to reunite Burrow with Joe Brady now that Callahan

is gone, but why would Brady leave Buffalo. Well, it's not only a lateral move. Does Zach Taylor allow him to call plays? Right? Does Zach Taylor want to call plays? So to me, the question always is a lateral move as a coordinator or a position coach, does your responsibility change? Because an OC with McVeigh is not the same as an OC for Antonio Pierce or John Harbaugh. Right? So I think it's very dependent on who you work for. So a lateral move, like if you're a coach, if you were making a million dollars and you're an OC that doesn't call plays, I think you would gladly take a, you would take 850 grand to call plays because you get more credit that way. It's why Eric B.N and me went to Washington. It's like

he didn't get any credit for calling the plays because Andy recalled him. Hey John, why does Dennis Allen still have a job? He'll start next season as a lame duck coach, just like Staley and McDaniels, who both flamed out hard. Do the Saints truly believe he is the answer? Or is it other factors like lack of coaching candidates or pride after trading Sean Payton? Why don't think they have pride trading Sean Payton? They did not want to lose Sean Payton. Sean Payton quit them.

They didn't quit Sean Payton. Sean Payton said, I'm out. I've had enough. And then a year later, he's like, I'm back. I'm ready. Like, uh, what? So it's, I don't fault them in that situation. And they took the, the, the,

route of least resistance. They hired his coordinator, who was good. But as a head coach, I don't know, man. I think that we'll see who Atlanta hires. I mean, Carolina's not going to be any good. And Tampa just has a lot of free agency questions. Right?

So if you are the saints, you go, Atlanta's a wild card because if they get Belichick, they'll clearly be better. But the Panthers are stink. and the Tampa, I mean, their quarterbacks a free agent, their star receivers are free agent, a lot of their other players are old. I think you can go, well, why couldn't,

I mean, this year, we couldn't have been much worse in some of these games in the middle of the season, and we were still right there at the end of the season. So next year, if our offense is better, which I think is always easy to say as an organization, let's just hire a better offensive coordinator. Okay, well, what if that guy's not a better offensive coordinator? everyone think Luke Getsy sucks.

What if it was Justin Fields? Now, I bet next year they get Caleb Williams and maybe they draft a wide receiver as well at Pick 9 and their offense is way better and go, see? Well, it's like, yeah, they got a better quarterback and they got another offensive weapon to go with DJ Moore. So there are always a lot of variables, but I guess that's a long-winded way of saying

a lot of pressure, but I actually think in a weird way it wouldn't shock me if the Saints are better next year than they were this year. Love the pod. one of my favorite podcasts, Packer fan. Love exceeded my and many Packer fans' expectations. Looks to be the real deal, but I do worry,

sounds like Green Bay will be sitting down to extend a huge contract to him. My main thing with quarterbacks is consistency. Not just week to week, but year to year. To be honest, all we've seen from love is seven to eight good games. I worry we haven't seen enough good, consistent play to pay him amongst the great quarterbacks in the league. I think anything in life,

if you are going to invest a lot of money in, you better feel very, very confident. And usually with quarterbacks, right, you have several years. It was the easiest thing the chiefs have ever done or the bills have ever done was extend those guys. The only hesitation, I think, with the Ravens was

is this guy going to stay physically healthy? He had been injured. Right, but clearly they don't regret doing that. But they had several years around these guys. You know, the Jalen Hurts thing is a good example. He had one unreal year. Part of being a great player, like Aaron Rogers did it for 15 years. Tom Brady and paid manny did it for 20.

Drew Brees did it for 15 years, year in, year out. How often does a guy get paid and then in a year like, oh, think they'd want that one back? Well, it's like, well, yeah, you're going off one year. Why would you pay them? what would be the logic to extend them this offseason? Like, will he sign three years, $100 million? Yeah, I'd do that.

But I'm not giving him a normal quarterback contract off eight games, and I'm a believer off what I see. But like, what's our number here? Like, I'm not doing five years, $200 million. That would be malpractice, even if you are Jordan Love's biggest fan. So I hear you. part of like it's easy to extend

T.J. Watt or Nick Boso or Miles Garrett, they have three or four straight years of kicking ass and taking names. Tyree Kill when Miami gave him the big contract. He'd already put together a Hall of Fame career. Same thing with Devante Adams. Year in, year out. Eight games? I haven't read that.

I mean, you're being a Packer fan, you probably read more Packer content on a daily basis. I haven't seen, I don't know if Gutikins has talked yet. maybe that came up in their post-season press conference, but I would just let this play out. I could extend them during the season next year. Why do I have to extend them right now? I don't think you do.

Now, the argument, if you're glass-half-full and you're just betting on him to be an awesome player for the next five years, it's actually cheaper to do it now than it would be if he throws another 30 touchdowns and we win 11 games next year. And that's true. You save some money.

But I do think the risk-first reward, like, is it worth paying an extra $20 million or $30 million to know and feel good about the contract than to risk something that backfires? I would wait. I would be willing to wait. You don't have enough information. Just wondering your thoughts on if the bill should shop around Diggs. Between the drama he brings, his decline in production and lack of leadership, I think it has run its course.

The bill's lack of down-the-field receivers or just receivers that can separate was painfully obvious in the Chiefs game. I've always liked Diggs. I've always thought he was a big-time player, comes through in big spots, he can play in the cold. I've always been a huge fan. Now, I understand you get to a point where it's like this just isn't quite good enough, and the margins are so thin against the best in the business that, you know, that drop was

killer. You know, to be a great player, and at moments in his career, I've considered him like a great player, great players make that catch. Just flip it on the other side. Do Kelsey or Hill over the course of this, you know, I call it a rivalry, but as I talked about last week, it's hard to be a true rivalry when the bills always lose the game. But if Kelsey and Hill are in that situation, a big play in their arms down the field, they make it. And Diggs didn't. Here's the problem. And I haven't done like the bills cap breakdown. But if the bills get rid of them, one, you're not trading them at this point in time of his career for a top 30 pick. So you get rid of them for a pick. The pressure then on you to nail some young receivers in the draft is

really, really high. Gabe Davis has been banged up. Can you depend on him? Kincaid looks like a good ascending player. Shakir is an excellent slot receiver. That kid's a stud. but Cook's a good running back. You do need, you know, I mean, assuming Joe Burrell comes back, they're loaded, you know Andy will reload, that would make me nervous. That would make me nervous to move on. But it's the NFL, maybe you can trade for a guy. I don't know.

It's a complicated situation. I don't have a great answer for you. One little nugget I'm surprised you haven't used given your history with the Eagles. Remember Vince Young touting their dream team? I do. And they accomplished nothing. To discredit Purdy for simply meeting

expectations with a stack team is hilarious. I don't know who's discrediting Purdy though. But that's like, weren't we all on the same page beside a couple of people that just wanted to argue? He had a great season. He was near the lead in every statistical category at the position.

he eviscerated teams like the Cowboys and the Eagles was awesome was awesome he's a legit pro-ball player in the NFC that game that we witnessed the other night it's not good enough if you're going to be a pro-bowl player especially if your defense's going to be shitty comparing Vince Young was the backup quarterback like here's the thing

Vince Young got a little too much credit for saying that he's a backup so I don't know what that has to do with Purdy to be honestly. As a Detroit Lions fan, I have always struggled with the idea that the only way to win is with an elite quarterback. I watched Stafford do everything he could

for years with Calvin Johnson as his number one wide receiver and he could barely get us in the playoffs. Now we're all doing all this with Gough who everyone says is less talented. That is true. Like, everyone doesn't say that. It's like a fact.

Matt Stafford is more physically talented than Jared Gough. Sometimes the word narrative gets thrown around. Like Josh Allen has more gifts than Brock Purdy. Like the difference between a narrative, like, can LeBron ever win a championship? Like, that's a narrative. And then there are just like some facts. Matt Stafford, way better arm, moves better than Jared Gough.

My question is this. Do you believe it's possible to build a Super Bowl winner with a mid-level quarterback who with a stacked roster can compensate for him? or is this the only way to win? Well, I think the Lions and the 49ers are great examples, right? The other two teams, and really I would throw the bills in there as well, they have highly paid quarterbacks who on any given game can beat you by themselves. They are three of, like Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes,

not even talking about their accomplishments, MVP's, pro bowls, all the money. Just their physical gifts. I've been watching football for 30 years. They are as physically gifted as any group of guys. Farr, Rogers, you know, what makes Peyton Manning's kind of unique. He was more his mind because he couldn't move and his arm was average, but his accuracy and he was just a genius. Tom, big time armed, but also couldn't move, was a genius.

But like some of the great physical freaks, you know, Cam Newton wasn't very accurate. Rathustberger was pretty special. But like Jared Gough, you know, Brock Purdy makes under a million dollars. So the amount you can use on your cap is a lot of money. Right? He takes, let's just make it easy for mass sake. If he makes less than a million dollars and the cap is $200 million,

he's half a percent of your salary cap. Jared Goff, relative to some of these other quarterbacks, like Jared Goff's a top 10 quarterback in the NFL. He makes like $24 million. A lot of people in his spot make like $40 million more. So he's relatively cheap too. And what did both those guys have? They have really good offensive play callers, and they have really good skill guys.

Could either one of those guys win with an average group around them? Probably not if their defense wasn't good. But we've seen Jared Goff multiple places now win with a good team. Now, I would say this, Jared Goff and Brock Purdy, Jared Goff was the number one pick in the draft. He's 6'5, he's got a good arm, he's accurate, he can push the ball down the field. Jared Goff's pretty talented. He's just not a good athlete relative to NFL quarterbacks

And he can't you know he can't ad lip But I think you can win a Super Bowl with Jared Gough For sure My girlfriend and I are planning on stages of starting our own podcast It would be about what's going on in sports Improving your relationship Family and funny stories Came up with the idea because every time we travel out of state

People gravitate toward us and after meeting us, comment on how hilarious we should start a podcast. You guys must be kind of funny. Looking for your advice since you mentioned you have a girlfriend. Without naming names, is there a genre of podcast you would listen to with her? I think the challenge is men and women typically. I know you have some ladies that listen don't like the same content. Yeah, that would be my, we just listen to different stuff.

Like the podcast I listen to, football, golf, and finance podcast. are just a lot different than the podcast she listens to. So, like, I would say the podcast, we both agree, we listen to the same type of music. We like the same type of music. But I would say when it comes to podcasts, content tends to be different,

just in general, of girls I've dated. And those, these are girls that like sports. So, but I would say, for the most part, based on the data we have, like they don't, you know, girls, like the ratio of men to women listening to my show or just sports shows in general is heavily weighted one way. In sports radio, which is very antiquated in terrestrial radio, they don't even factor in women.

It's just men. So I don't have great advice. I would just try to do like a lifestyle podcast. If sports come up, they come up. But just talk about life stuff, you know, hanging out, boozing, relationships. stuff, kids, just whatever you're doing in life. Partying, relaxing, cooking, just what normal. I don't listen to a lot of those type shows, though I've heard Maria has, and I've

heard kind of what they talk, they just talk about life. But I don't have a great advice for you there. Sounds like you guys are funny, though, when you travel. I was wondering your thoughts on the in-house hire of Dan Morgan and the assistant general manager to the general manager. How big of a role does an assistant GM typically compare to the GM? I think it depends. You know, in some organizations, they play a massive role.

Like, I think Adam Peters with the 49ers play a very, very big role. I think if you look at, like, you know, some organizations where the GM is just doing a lot, you know, might be a little less. Like, there are things that Howie Roseman or probably John Schneider are going to do that, you know, might not happen at other places, right? They're just going to do a lot. So I have no clue how much Dan Morgan was or was not doing. I commented on the podcast part that when you work for a nut, you know, and even if the nut knows what he's doing, like George Steinbrenner or Al Davis in his prime, it's hard.

These are difficult, difficult roles. It's hard to work for an owner who's crazy, who doesn't know about the sport. It's hard to work for an owner that's crazy and does know. Like having an owner that's very involved and who's just, you know, piss is hot every day coming in to work, wanting to know what the hell is going on in a sport that like, you know, for nine months of the year, not every day is crazy. But, you know, in the stock market, for example, anyone that has any money invested, every single morning you can get up Monday through Friday and check the markets, good or bad, but something's happening. Right. In football, like,

not every day is crazy. Like, sometimes you have to be relatively just neutral. And I wonder that's hard for David Tepper. And it definitely gets really hard to stay neutral when you're losing. And it gets worse. So maybe Dan Morgan, his playing background, he can just figure it out because he was a badass player. I forget his injury, but he had an injury that kind of ended his career young. Big Seahawks fan, what have you been hearing about the coaching search? I'm really curious why they haven't interviewed Mike McDonald yet.

You know, I don't know, John Schneider. I'd be lying if I said I had like any inside inside. Intel, it does kind of feel like they've just gravitated toward Dan Quinn before this thing even started. Now, I think Mike Vrable would make a lot of sense there. I think Mike McDonald would make a lot of sense there. I think all these young coordinators, I would be, I'd be interviewing them all. Mike McDonald, Ben Johnson, I'd be interviewing Rahim Morris with the Rams.

If I'm not going to go, you know, Dan Quinn, they don't really need to interview. But I don't know. your guess is as good as mine. I think it's actually a pretty intriguing job. They have some young talent. They have a really good GM. They have players that are used to winning. Not huge, but I mean, it's not like they've been losing.

So they have a positive culture. They have guys that just have been in some big games, some big moments. They have bridge quarterback on the roster. There's a lot of mixed opinions on whether Purdy is actually good. If the 49ers don't win the Super Bowl this year, do you think they really start to have conversations of making a change at quarterback? I would say this. Purdy had a good season.

That happened. Pretty had a really good offseason, or I mean good regular season. Really good. Now, the pressure on him in the playoffs, just like for any quarterback, when your team is a legit Super Bowl contender, is really, really high. So if they were to lose, like if they lose the Lions, there's no way you could lose the Lions, and it not be a disaster. You're a big favorite. It's at home.

Everyone throughout the season thought you should win this conference. Now, it's sports. It's football. You're not guaranteed to win. Like, the Lions have good players too. But if you lose that game, yeah, it becomes a major conversation. I don't think anything changes if they win this game and they lose in the Super Bowl to Mahomes or Lamar Jackson. but

Listen, Kyle Shanan's proven Jimmy Garoppel. See ya. Trey Lance. We use a bunch of capital. Two years later, see ya. Rock Bertie's on a scholarship. And I'm a fan.

What I witnessed this year, he's a good player. Big fan, long-time listener from Australia. You seem to be a big fan of Taysam Hill's skill set and also of Justin Fields' athletic ability. Could there be a future for Fields as a Taysom Hill type multi-role player? And if so, how much work would have to be done to catch, run, ETC? Would it be better just to persist with him as an average to below average quarterback?

Interested to get your opinion? That's a good question. Again, I haven't broke down every single game Taysam Hills played in. But when I watch him, he's a pretty natural catcher of the ball. And he can run the ball. Like, part of Fields, who is an incredible athlete and great runner in the open field. Most of his runs are outside the tackles. You know, Taysam Hill can just turn into a running back between the tackles and in short yardage. So I, like, Justin Fields is a better

athlete than Taysam Hill, but he's clearly a better quarterback than Taysam was, but I don't know if he could just develop into that version. You know, Tassum Hill is like this hybrid, kind of like Mike Allstott meets Kyle Ushach. He's just a very unique player. I don't know if Justin Fields could do that. Because I don't think most guys could do that. But maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. I don't know enough.

I'd have to text buddies who have been around fields like as a catcher of the football. Could he play wide receiver? Some guys have. He's a good enough quarterback to keep playing. But he's a pretty average quarterback relative to the NFL. You can't throw from within the pocket. Can't function. It's not being mean.

That's just a reality. It's funny. Like whenever you just give your opinion on a player, Like, you hate this guy. No, I actually kind of liked him. I would have taken number two overall in the draft. Hey, I've loved listening to All-Seasoned podcast. I have a more generalized question related to football as a whole for the mailbag.

Why is the no woman's NFL? We have a WNBA, women's soccer, and softball, but only recently flag football started up at my high school for women. it feels like with young women like Haley Seinfeld, Simone Biles, and Taylor Swift around the NFL, there would be a decent market

of young girls who want to play football. Seems like a good business proposition for the NFL. Interesting question. Never really thought about it. It's, you know, in softball, there are, think about

basketball and softball or gymnastics or whatever, lacrosse, soccer for sure. they start playing at a very, very young age. So just like boys basketball or boys, you know, baseball or men's soccer, all these people start playing young. Well, when I was a kid, you couldn't even call it this now, but peewee football was called midgets.

You were in junior midgets. You know, I didn't play actually. First time I started playing was in ninth grade, but some of my friends played like tackle football in like sixth, seventh grade. Right? So you start playing football. when you're young, no different than like being on the seventh grade basketball team or playing soccer or Little League, right? That just, there is no starting spot for girls when it comes to

football. No one ever does it. Right, but all the other sports exist, which they gravitate toward soccer, basketball, swimming, where I came from a lot of, you know, the swimming program was really big, same with water polo. So I think it always starts at the grassroots. Like, why are we not as good at soccer as all these countries. It's not a lack of people. It's not a lack of athletes. It's because we are not as dedicated at the youth level like we are in football, basketball, and baseball. It's not a huge part of the ethos as our culture. If you go to Spain or you go to Italy or you go to France or you go to England, like they treat that in the youth level. They take it very, very seriously. Now, I'm not saying some people in this country don't take soccer seriously young,

but as a whole, it's very, you know, it's spread out because we have so many sports that people play. And the most popular sport in the country is something that a lot of young boys are going to want to play. Like, I would say most young girls don't look at playing football because there's no women to look up to playing. When I was a kid, like, who do I idolize?

Michael Jordan, well, what did I do? I want to shoot baskets. Brett Farv, what does everyone want to be at recess? The all-time quarterback. I don't know. I've never really thought about that, but that would be, I just don't think it really exists. Do you think Anthony Richardson is being overshadowed due to C.J. Stroud's success? I know he only played in five games.

Well, I think he just answered your own question. But in those games, he was electric. Again, he played in five games. And then he was injured and we never saw him again. So it's not, he's not being overshadowed. There was nothing, he disappeared, he got broke his shoulder. It was in a sling on the sideline. Gardner Minchew was.

is their starting quarterback. When you say Indianapolis Colts, 2023, what's everyone going to say? Damn, it's incredible what Shane Snyke did with Gardner Manchu. No one's going to talk about anything in Richmond.

So it's not overshadowed. When you miss what percentage of that, 75% of the season, it's just part of the deal. Now, if he's back next year and good, then no one will say a peep. People like,

this guy's sweet too. Maybe this guy could be the next Cam Newton. because he was kind of like this hybrid Cam Newton, Michael Vic, he looks sweet. But he got hurt in multiple games. C-O'd. I'd say it's kind of concerning. Anytime, you know, you don't make it through a season

and you play, that was your first season, we just go, is this guy going to be last? It might not even be fair. I mean, we may look back in 10 years. He never misses another game. But right now, I'd say the biggest question mark, he's not being overshadowed. It's before we say, hey, could he be C,

C.J. Stroud's like, hey, can you just start 10 straight games? Can he play a full season? Especially with the way he plays? Like, C.J. Stroud, we've seen that player over and over play in the NFL. Pocket quarterback. I mean, he can move a little bit, but he's not, like, running around. A big part of Anthony Richardson's game is, like, the incredible running. Because he's an incredible freak athlete.

But he also took some shots. Actually, if I remember correctly, the play that he got injured on, he it wasn't some crazy shot. He just kind of got like an innocuous tackle. Just a normal, every day play on Sunday. And it broke his shoulder. So I don't think it's fair to say that he got overshadowed. I just think he's, we question if he can stay on the field.

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