The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 and Out - Cowboys are CHEAP, Play Maye! Falcons HAVE To Make Playoffs, Mailbag

Episode Date: August 15, 2024

John reacts to the preseason game between the Patriots and Eagles and wonders why the hell the New England Patriots aren’t getting more game reps for #3 overall pick Drake Maye (7:30). Then, sets th...e bar for the Atlanta Falcons as playoffs or bust following their trade for Matthew Judon and signing of Justin Simmons (14:00). John BLASTS the Cowboys and owner Jerry Jones for being incredibly cheap when it comes to spending CASH on their roster (23:15) weighs in on the firings at ESPN (30:15) and ends the pod with a mailbag where he answers listeners’ questions. (41:15) (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:26 Maybe you work weekends. And you had a good week. Screwing around. But I just watched the first half of the Eagle Patriot game. The Eagles, I mean, don't really play anybody. so there's not much to take away there. Something jumped out to me with the Patriots and their quarterback situation that just has me shaking my head.
Starting point is 00:04:44 The Atlanta Falcons, I think, are in a pretty unique situation in terms of the pressure on the team for someone that just has a first-year head coach, right? Or, you know, he's coached before, but you know what I mean? This is his first year with the team. I saw Mike Greenberg was on with McAfee and made a comment about Jerry Jones and the Cowboys spending over the last decade.
Starting point is 00:05:08 I honestly couldn't believe it when I heard it, but then I did a little digging, and it's pretty eye-opening. And it's something I always say. I judge you not by words, but by actions in life. And I think this is something that probably doesn't get talked about enough. And I think there's a narrative with the Cowboys
Starting point is 00:05:26 and how much money they have and how much they would spend if a cap didn't exist. And I wonder if that's really a giant Fugazi, because it's not actually true by the award. way they operate. And I'll hit you with the Fugazi Friday as well as the Middlecough mailbag at John Middilkoff is the Instagram. Fire in those DMs. Get your questions answered here on the show. And yeah, the plan next week, I'm going to do something with Colin on Sunday. And then, I think, put it out before, we're going to record before the games Sunday night. There's
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Starting point is 00:08:03 not rolling out Lane Johnson, Jalen Hurts, Sequin, A.J. Brown, Devante Smith. Totally get it. Not what Andy Reid or Belichick or some of these other coaches do with veteran players, but that's been their philosophy. I'm not going to argue against it. So there wasn't much to take away from Philly.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Kenny Pickett, who I actually think, I mean, he was all over the place in this game, playing with backup random linemen kind of running for his life. I think that's an upgrade from what they have. last year with Marcus Marriota. But at the end of the day, your backup quarterback, when you're paying your starting quarterback a premium, ideally doesn't factor in much throughout the season.
Starting point is 00:08:44 So the Eagle season's going to go, assuming their defense is going to be better with Fangio, which it will be how Jalen plays and how the offense plays. So we won't know really how that is until we get to regular season games, and their first one Friday night in Brazil against the Packers. When you look at the Patriots, Jacobi Percette is 31 years old. He started 48 games in his career, 48 games.
Starting point is 00:09:09 So, I mean, that's several seasons worth of starting. He's also backed up players like Tom Brady. So he's a lot of experience in the regular season and in the preseason. And this is a team who even they know isn't going to be that good this year. That's why they just traded one of their better players. You could argue their most talented player, though he's a little older. they got rid of them. Why, they're resetting their deck. To me, starting Jacobi Brissette and playing him in preseason games, especially for three series, is laughable. I mean, what are you doing? He does
Starting point is 00:09:46 not need the reps. It's like, we're getting ready for the season to do what? Win three games. And he looked like Jacobi looked through an awful pick in the red zone that hit the DV Maddox in the hands. I mean, just a terrible pick. Got news for you. Jacoby turns the ball over. This is a time when you have this project quarterback in Drake May who played six
Starting point is 00:10:10 snaps in the first season game through three passes. How is he not playing at minimum a half? Why wouldn't you play him the whole game? I don't need to see Bailey Zappy play. We've seen
Starting point is 00:10:26 that the previous couple years. this time of the year for a guy who ideally you don't even want to play in the regular season, get him reps, let him sink or swim. To play Jacoby Brissette three series, to me, the Patriots are taking a lot of shit. A lot of people think they don't know what they're doing. And that the head coach, and now that the crafts have a very, very strong hand in what's going on, they're about to get really humbled. And you'd be like, John, they suck last year with Belichick.
Starting point is 00:10:58 I'm not acting like it's been going well. But to roll out Jacoby Brissette like he needs these reps, like I'm sorry, start the regular season, just let him roll. But shouldn't this be a time to get this young player who is your future, all the reps humanly possible? Because once the regular season starts, at least up until you bench Jacobi, which feels inevitable, he's not taking any of those first team reps.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Deason chance he's out with the scout team running, the opposing offenses scheme. That's what he'll be doing. That's usually in the NFL what backup quarterbacks do. That doesn't mean you can't work on your craft and everything, but you are not repping
Starting point is 00:11:42 your own offense once you go to team periods in the National Football League. So, and I saw Lewis Riddick tweeted this like Jacoby's third series. Put Drake May in the game. That's the whole point of this.
Starting point is 00:11:58 None of this matters. This is all irrelevant in terms of score, in terms of individual plays, but it does matter for the repetitions for younger players. And it does matter for the growth of someone who you invested a boatload into. The Giants were willing to trade you a bunch. Other teams were interested in trading up. You're like, no, which I support. You like this player.
Starting point is 00:12:23 He plays a position in which you need. They mentioned on the broadcast when he scored on a keeper. to score that, you know, obviously not comparing him to Tom Brady, but, you know, one day when this guy's a starting quarterback, it will add an element to their quarterback that they haven't really had over 25 years, a mobile guy. Now, there's more to playing quarterback than mobility, but let him get out there. Let him rep it out with at least like high-end guys, even if they're not starters, guys that you might see on a potential Sunday down the road. Because it is inevitable Jacobi Burset is going to get benched this year. I would bet a lot of money that that's going to
Starting point is 00:13:04 happen. And I would tend to lean with. It's going to happen sooner than later. So you're going to throw this guy out without reppping much once the regular season starts up until that moment in a shitty situation. Your offensive line sucks. Your team's probably going to have a losing record. And you're not even giving them starts in the preseason games that don't mean shit because you want to get what jacobbia sweat i i don't get it i i just do not understand it and listen i'm i'm out on the patriots shorten the patriots just big picture uh not that i'm anti drake may he showed like ball was a little wobbly it looked like a lot going on of course i mean he fucking played six snaps a week ago this guy's not used to being on the field with other teams in the national
Starting point is 00:13:51 football league. So I don't get it. Makes no sense to me. And I think this shows that you just see an operation that feels a little bit over their head. Okay, let's talk about the Atlanta Falcons who are in a really, really rare spot. Most times in the NFL, college football is different because I can sign a big name coach. They get paid a ton and the expectations are super high. Right? The moment Brian Kelly goes to LSU, Lincoln Riley to USC, that type stuff happens. Jim Harbaugh to Michigan. The big-name guys move the needle and you expect to win and you expect to win immediately. In the NFL, when you take over a job, usually the team's terrible. They've lost.
Starting point is 00:14:31 And you kind of get an open runway year one. If you win, it's all gravy. Remember Andy Reid took over the Chiefs, they drafted number one, had them in the playoffs next year. People were like, damn. But for the most part, you're not expected to win year one. Last year, Jonathan Gannon and the Cardinals, everyone thought they were going to suck. That's why Dayball got so much credit. You're like, this team's not any good.
Starting point is 00:14:51 It takes them to playoffs. But this year, for example, the Patriots. If Gerard Mayo were to win five games, he'd get coach of the year votes. If he wins two or three games, no one with a brain is going, he should have done more. That team sucks, right? Because usually when you take over a new team, the team isn't any good. Callahan in Tennessee, he wins eight and nine or nine and eight.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Like, that's a pretty good job. But that's not the case in Atlanta. And I understand position coaches and coordinators' ambition to move up. It's very lucrative. Going from the quarterback coach to coordinator doubles your salary. And while you're making a lot of money, let's say $800 grand as a quarterback coach, it's a lot different making $1.75 million a year. Just like if you're making $2 million as a defensive coordinator for the Rams,
Starting point is 00:15:42 it's a lot different making $9 million as the head coach. So I get it. In money and power, given that you don't have to take orders from anybody. You are the boss. You dictate everything football-wise in your organization, how we play, what schemes we run, when we practice, who you want to practice, who you want to play. It's a lot different. You're no longer, you know, you're the top guy in the organization chart when it comes to the football team. The GM doesn't dictate the lineup. Dictate doesn't dictate practice. Doesn't dictate the schemes. That's not the way it works. He doesn't even know the
Starting point is 00:16:16 playbook most of the time. So I get guys want to do that. And usually you get all this money and you get a chance to take a deep breath. If the Atlanta Falcons don't make the playoffs this year, Rahim Morris, head coach hasn't been one in a long time where he kind of flamed out in Tampa, obviously older, more mature now. It is going to be viewed as a major failure. They just traded a third round pick for Matt Judon, which is the type of move you do around the trade deadline because you think you're a Super Bowl contender. Now, they made that trade deadline, Super Bowl contender move in the middle of August. which I'm not against, but you better be good because those second day picks are pretty valuable.
Starting point is 00:16:56 And they also signed Justin Simmons, multiple-time pro bowler, former Denver Bronco today, to like $7.5 million all guarantee. You do those type moves when you think you're going to be good. And I'm telling you, they think they're going to be good. The betting markets, everyone's betting on them to win the division and be a playoff team, which is fine, but based on previous history,
Starting point is 00:17:16 like they've been pretty average the last three years. And last year was a big embarrassment. and you might just say, well, their quarterback play sucks. Maybe it's just, maybe that's, it's just that deep. It was just their quarterback play. But there is tangible pressure on this team to make the playoffs this year. Anything less, you don't have to win the division, but you better be playing a game on Wild Card Weekend.
Starting point is 00:17:39 If you are not, it just is a failure. And that can't usually be said about first year head coaching situations. So it's kind of unique. And listen, Rahim Morris backed it up. up with saying we have a massive coaching staff. They're like, why? Because we're grooming people to take over jobs when we win and they get plucked. Usually people don't talk like that. And I got no problem talking to talk if you're walking the walk, but I'm interested to watch this team play. They definitely have some talent. But we'll see. Better come through or it's
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Starting point is 00:23:14 And then I get home and I scroll on Instagram and I see the clip. And I watched it. And Greenberg kind of went on this rant about Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys. And he said, listen, no one can argue Jerry's fame, his impact on the league for marketing. and how powerful the Cowboys are as a brand and the size of their fan base. But it cannot be argued. It is just objectively true. It's a fact that the Cowboys are financially cheap when it comes to paying players.
Starting point is 00:23:50 I was like, damn. He's like, no team over the last eight to ten years has spent more actual cash on players than the Dallas Cowboys. Seriously? So this morning, I went and I googled it, and I was reading a, about it because, you know, in football, the salary cap, 100 million, 200 million, 250 million, you can spend more actual cash than the salary cap. I get front load contracts. I can pay you huge signing bonuses.
Starting point is 00:24:17 And then it goes on the books as I amortized it over the life of the deal. So you can and Jake Rosenberg, who was on my podcast, discuss this. If your owner is all in, you can manipulate the salary cap with actual money, actual money. And turns out the Cowboys don't do that at all. From 2016 to 2019, the league average in cash spending over 16, 17, 18, and 19 for four seasons was $704 million. The Cowboys were dead last with $634.4 million. Over the last three seasons, 21, 22, and 23, and the Cowboys have been good. Dallas was 30th in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:25:03 league average was $627 million. The Cowboys spent almost $90 million less with $534 million. To put it in perspective, two teams, there are obviously the big rival in the Eagles and a team that they've played twice in the playoffs. The Eagles were 10th most cash spending at $655 million, so spent $80 million more. The Niners were $664 million seventh in the league. And I started thinking, you know, Dabo takes a lot of shit because in his heyday, which wasn't that long ago, and Clemson was kicking everybody's ass,
Starting point is 00:25:42 transfer portal didn't exist. And he had to draft and develop players. And he recruited like he was Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Ohio State. And he had teams full of NFL players. And they won national championships. And then the world changed. And the transfer portal happened. And you could sign a guy from another school,
Starting point is 00:26:01 who had already played and he didn't have to sit out. And all the best teams now dabble in that. Now they don't take Dionne Sanders 40 transfers, but what Ohio State this year do this year? They took the starting safety from Alabama who looked like a future top 15 pick. What did Alabama do a couple of years ago? They took this guy Jameson Williams from Ohio State
Starting point is 00:26:25 because he couldn't crack the line up because they had so many sweet wide receivers. And then they just plugged a hole here, plug hole there. and Clemson has fallen behind. And I started to think that Jerry, when Jerry became really famous, right, when he buys his team in 89,
Starting point is 00:26:41 within the next less than 10 years, he's got three Super Bowl rings, he has a household name in sports. He's a famous rich guy. There are a lot of rich people that you've never heard of. There are a lot of people, not a lot,
Starting point is 00:26:57 but there are people, you know, definitely in the 90s that had way more money than Jerry Jones. And you couldn't point out of a lineup. And I wonder if back in the 90s, and this goes back to the rules in the NFL of why you need to put money into escrow. Because way back in the day, they wanted to prove that if you were going to sign this contract,
Starting point is 00:27:18 you actually had the money. That's a stupid, outdated, archaic practice. We know teams have the money now. But Jerry's in this mindset of, I don't want to rob Peter to pay Paul because in the 90s that would have been very, very risky. Obviously, the salary cap got created, what, 93, 94? Jerry hasn't changed his tactics.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Obviously, Jerry pays his own guys, but he made the comment, we're all in and he's taking a lot of shit. Jerry's not all in. Because to compete in this modern day NFL, you can use cash to your advantage. The Dallas Cowboys were just valued at $10 billion. Jerry is worth, I mean, I can't even imagine how much cash that guy has in the bank, how much money the Cowboys generate on a yearly basis. And he's not using it to his advantage.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Part of having a successful business is reinvesting into that business to keep growing it. And I do think it's fair after looking at some of these numbers to go, the Cowboys have fallen behind. And it's not because they don't have the resources, they have the cash, whether it's Jerry's old school mindset or it's just his unwillingness to part with some of his money and up you know up front bonuses to certain players but that's embarrassing that should not happen they should be near the top in cash spending forever all we've ever heard if there was and shit i'm guilty of this if there was no salary cap jerry would buy all the players then you look at the data and you go yeah i don't know
Starting point is 00:28:55 that's true. I don't, I think Jeffrey Lurie would be much more inclined to buy the players. The Cleveland Browns and New York Jets were one and two over the last three years in cash spending. You'd argue those two teams would be much more willing to cut enormous amounts of cash to players. I don't know if Jerry would. Because you, and this is what I think so many people are so phony in politics and living in California for so long. Like everyone talks a big game. I don't give a shit what you say or what you post. I judge you on how you act. So you can talk one way.
Starting point is 00:29:31 If you're living a different way, I think you're a fraud. I think you're a complete phony. And Jerry has this kind of way that we judge him and look at him of like, just this gunslinger throwing around his coins. He's just paying this guy, paying that guy, making shit happen. Turns out, no, he's not really. And a lot of other owners are spending way more actual cash. salary cap can be whatever the contracts can be whatever say it all the time average per years can be
Starting point is 00:29:58 super high everyone's like average per year how about this average per year i don't give a shit how much money do you actually have to pay the player you can say hey john you know it's like here you're making x per year it's like well i've actually only received this so what does that mean and i get why agents love saying that. I got my guy 27 million a year. It's like yeah, signing bonus was $10 million. And the guarantees are not very high. If he does not produce, they cut him after a year.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I just thought looking at these numbers was pretty crazy. And I don't know if Jerry's legitimately actually cheap, which I think it's fair to say after looking at these numbers, stuck in this old school practice of this mindset, like when he bought the Cowboys and he didn't have much money. Hard to say that because he's got hundreds of millions of dollars put into a yacht.
Starting point is 00:30:52 So he's not afraid to spend it. He flies around on a helicopter. And I'm pro Jerry Jones. But he ain't spending money like these other guys when it comes to his team. I saw ESPN fired RG3. I found RG3 pretty annoying. I also Sam Ponder got fired as well. I read she made $7 million or excuse me, seven figures.
Starting point is 00:31:14 So she made over a million dollars to host the NFL show in the morning. That seems crazy. to me. I mean, who is signing these contracts for, and I'm not anti-Sam Ponder, but like, what? I thought RG3 was making seven figures too. It's like, who has given out this money? These people don't work in jobs that generate revenue. You could replace them with someone else and no one would notice. I get why you pay Tom Brady or Troy Aikman, you feel comfortable, their name. But for the most part, people that call games, they can be replaced. If Penn State's playing Michigan, regardless who's calling the game, I mean,
Starting point is 00:31:50 Obviously, it can't be terrible. But when it's the guy of like RG3's level, like, no one cares. He's calling college football games these last whatever, three or four years. It's like you can replace them with whoever. No one would notice. Some of these people running some of these operations are fucking morons. And last but not least, Fugazi Friday, it kind of hit me the other day. I don't think there's a service that you can pay for.
Starting point is 00:32:20 that I don't pay for from obviously YouTube TV to Netflix to all the hits the Amazon Prime's Apple TV but then the Paramount Pluses the Maxes of the Hulus
Starting point is 00:32:32 the Peacocks I mean I shit I got it all there is not a streaming service that has content that your boy doesn't have a credit card information on file for and it kind of hit me the other day I was like laying in bed
Starting point is 00:32:47 probably 9 9.30 we're looking for something to watch. I'm like, there is never in the history of my life, my time on this planet, and I've watched a lot of television in my life, a lot of movies, a lot of shows, especially at night. I'm like, I can't find anything to watch. How? Can I pay? Who knows? It's like, I'm not doing the books on a monthly basis on what I'm paying, but it's my guess would be, I don't know, three, four hundred dollars. Couldn't find anything to watch. Now, there is stuff to watch. It's like, I don't really want to watch that. Don't really want to watch that.
Starting point is 00:33:21 And I think back to simpler times. Let's just go 15 years ago. And listen, Cable was screwing us. Not necessarily me because the bundle for me made sense. I watched a lot of sports, but it was screwing a lot of people that didn't watch sports were getting just railroaded. So I have no sympathy for that thing just disintegrating. But in 2000, let's just pick a year, 2007, you would just sit on your couch or sit at your house on a night when there's like no sports on or whatever and just find something to watch there'd be a movie they're oh they're 45 minutes in the shashank or oh old school is on or damn i love sean connery and the rock and you just watch like 45 minutes of it i've said this before but like the one negative with youtube tv who i'm a huge fan of and love it a lot
Starting point is 00:34:12 you don't scroll. So I would never just see there's some movie playing on a station. Right? I don't run into Shashank anymore. If I want to watch Shashank, I have to go seek it out.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Because YouTube is so genius, it knows like the five channels I watch. It's just, you know, ESPN if a game's on, golf channel, CNBC, and then during football season, just the football games.
Starting point is 00:34:40 or during, I guess, the NBA finals, whatever. It just, it aggregates that for me. I rarely have to go far in Food Network. I don't even have to go that far. I just see what I'm going to watch and I click it. I never scroll. And I was always old school. I used to like the guy and see what it was on.
Starting point is 00:35:01 But there's not really any need to do that. And I think, and obviously when a good show comes out, that presumed innocence show was on Apple TV, that was entertaining. I watched this show last night on Peacock, like the biker gang. I think Tom Hardy was in it. It was kind of entertaining.
Starting point is 00:35:20 I fell asleep halfway through. It wasn't that great, really. But it's just like you really sometimes got a force. Like, I guess I'll try this out. It's like, I couldn't have more options. I have about 17 apps on the home screen. Just provide me with unlimited content. Yet when I'm looking,
Starting point is 00:35:39 if there's not like a super hot or, popular television show or like some documentary that everyone's talking about. You just keep scrolling. I don't really want that. Don't really want to watch that. Yeah, scroll that. Like, how's this possible? How is this possible? And yet it is. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes, for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds.
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Starting point is 00:36:35 my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations
Starting point is 00:36:50 with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment. And the next, we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast.
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Starting point is 00:37:40 This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast deeply well with Debbie Brown and explore the journey of healing, self-discovery, and returning to yourself. We explore higher consciousness, emotional well-being, and the practices that help you find clarity, peace, and self-mastery in a world that can feel overwhelming. The world is becoming lonelier. We're not becoming more social and connected. We're becoming more individualized. but we actually meet people in connection.
Starting point is 00:38:10 If you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you to hear more. Listen to deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. American soccer is about to explode.
Starting point is 00:38:33 The World Cup is coming. Ramos sending on to earn a store at the chip. I'm Tab Ramos. I'm Tom Boone. On our podcast, Inside American Soccer, you'll get the real storylines. I'm not worried about Policic. I'm not worried about Balagan. I'm not worried about McKinney.
Starting point is 00:38:54 My only concern is what happens in the back. The biggest decisions. If you're going to look at stats and numbers, he has no shot at making this World Cup team. And the truth about the U.S. national team. It wouldn't be a huge surprise if our team ends up in the quarterfinals or potentially a great run into the semifinals. The World Cup is almost here. Experience it all with us. Listen, Inside American Soccer with Tom Bogart and Tab Ramos
Starting point is 00:39:23 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows.
Starting point is 00:39:46 without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall.
Starting point is 00:40:04 And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers, why he got the ball.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, let's do a little Fugazi Friday mailbag. At John Middlecock, Instagram, fire into those DMs. Big fan of the show. Watch it on the tube. YouTube for a while.
Starting point is 00:40:56 As a diehard Eagles fan, I feel like we are honestly in a bad spot coaching-wise. Fangio and Kellyn Moore both obviously have long-term head coaching aspirations. And if we have an 8 to 10, 8 out of 10 season, as in we lose in a divisional or NFC title game, I think losing in the NFC title game is better than 8 out of 10. It's obviously not a 10 out of 10. If winning the Super Bowl is an 11 out of 10,
Starting point is 00:41:26 making to the Super Bowl is probably 9.5. I'd say making to the NFC chance your game, at minimum is 8.5.9. As someone who worked there and assuming a decent season and not a total collapse, when obviously Siriani would be canned, how do you think the best way to handle head coaching position is going forward? Do you think we have a standout offense this year?
Starting point is 00:41:50 There's any chance Lurie would evaluate Kellyn Moore and get rid of Siriani or same with Fangio? If the defense is elite. One thing you said about Fangio having head coaching aspirations, I think those days are done. I think Fangio and head coaching, that ship has sailed. He got a shot a little later in life, and it didn't even come remotely close to working.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Vic Fangio's never going to be another head coach in the NFL. I feel pretty confident saying that. And I'm a Vic Fangio guy, I think excellent hire for you guys. But I don't think you have to worry about it. him. I think the question mark is the head coach and the offensive coordinator. And if the offensive coordinator has a lot of success with Jalen, with the offense, they're explosive, spent a lot of money on these cats, it's a pretty natural transition if they feel comfortable with him kind of leading the group, right, which they'd have to, I guess,
Starting point is 00:42:47 project a little bit, but I would say that he would have a strong chance. And I was texting with someone the other night, a buddy of mine about Hardknucks. And maybe I mentioned this also on a previous mailbag, but who would I hire? Like if I was just needed a coach this offseason based on what we know right now. I think I'd hire Mike Vrable. I'd hire Vrable over Belichick in the sense of he's just way younger. And I'm a Belichick supporter and people that act like he's the village idiot now, I think, are complete morons.
Starting point is 00:43:23 But it is going to be 2025. The guy got in the league in 1975, so I would lean Vrabel. If the Harbaugh Bros. If Tomlin, Dan Campbell,
Starting point is 00:43:35 I'm pretty confident Vrable can be a good head coach. Obviously, in a perfect world, you know, you hire the next McVeigh,
Starting point is 00:43:43 Shanahan. But I don't know. I mean, Ben Johnson seems terrified to be a head coach. How could I hire that guy? Play scared.
Starting point is 00:43:54 I dare you to take that Chargers bet. You'll lose your money. They have zero weapons. I love it when someone threatens you when you publicly say you're going to make a bet. Like, I dare you to take that bet. Like, guys, I've been gambling for, I don't know, almost 25 years. If you count sneaking into the Indian casino when I was like 15, 16 years old, been gambling on sports now for 15 plus.
Starting point is 00:44:22 You lose bets. You know, it's part of the deal. It's part of the fun. Get your juices flowing. You don't win them all. Hell, you're a legend if you hit like 55% of your sports betting. So yeah, I could bet. Could lose the money.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Also could win it. It's part of why you gamble. I think there's nothing stupider than that one. Like, I dare you to do that. No, I'm going to do it. Well, I was until Herbert got hurt now to kind of freak me out. But, like, you understand when you gamble, you're not afraid to lose the money.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Part of gambling. If I didn't want to lose the money, I wouldn't gamble it. I know you are a fan of betting on season wins or division winners. I might change my tune. I think I'm going to do it this year. I got a couple that I'm looking at. The Bills, the Saints, and those Fresno State Bulldogs. Also tempted to dabble a little on Oregon to win the Natty.
Starting point is 00:45:19 I kind of want to have a long-term team to win the Natty. but I don't know. I haven't decided on that one. There seems to be a lot of juice in a lot of these odds compared to the MVP or comeback player of the year. A lot of winners of the award never seem very chalky either. Even parlaying the team to make the playoffs with the coach of the year seems like a worthwhile long bet.
Starting point is 00:45:44 For example, Doug Peterson, winning coach of the year, doesn't seem like a stretch. Parlay it with the Jags to make the playoffs. and it would turn $50 into $8,000. Thanks. If you ever land in New Zealand, you will love Tasmania. Plenty of top Lynx golf courses there. Yeah, I would shit.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Love links golf. I do think it's difficult, right? Like, think about last year who won coach of the year, Stefansky. Well, they didn't win the division. Who won it the year before? I know what you're saying, and trust me, No one loves a $50 bet to win $8,000 like your boy.
Starting point is 00:46:25 I couldn't bet on golf just like get super aggressive. So I put $150. And I did two $50 parlays or actually I think a $75, a $25 and a $50 parlay. One was 19K, one was 12K, and one was 8K. I need Max Homer to play well this weekend. I wouldn't mind Tommy Fleetwood winning either. Or Morricow will get, and Billy Horshawks, top tens and top 20s.
Starting point is 00:46:51 But I think it sounds a lot easier with that strategy than it actually working. Because when you just look at the last two winners, Dayball and Stefansky, they didn't even come close to winning their division. I mean, a couple years ago, the Giants, dayball was the right choice. How many games of the Eagles? What was the difference? What were they, nine and eight? What were the Eagles going?
Starting point is 00:47:13 Were they 14 and 3 that year? You're talking about five game difference. So I hear you. And it sounds great when you say it out loud, and it sounds even better. You go to Draft Kings and you type in the two. You're like, holy shit. 50 to win 8Gs. And they're like, what's the likelihood of this happening?
Starting point is 00:47:31 It's just not very high. Multi-year listener, long-time fan. Got a question that might stir up the listeners. I go on Twitter and everyone acts. This is about CJ Stroud. Like it's a no-brainer, he's throwing 5,000 yards and 50 TDs. Let me remind you. He had 23 touchdowns last year, and five came in one game.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Let's throw in the 5 to 10% chance that Diggs ruins chemistry. I know we like the player and love the coach, but can we damper the expectations for this guy? They bolstered the run game with Mixing and won't have to be in shootouts. How do these outrageous predictions make you feel? It's a good question. I think Tank Dell is, I put his over under and touchdowns, assuming he plays 17 games at like 30, but I'm with you, people acting like it's going to be 50.
Starting point is 00:48:30 The other thing is Domingo has said, I've seen him say this multiple times. Diggs will not ruin our chemistry, a.k.a. It gets weird. We will cut him. Like, there is no rope here. There is no margin for, yeah, we'll just, He's having a rough, rough week here with the boys. That ain't going to fly.
Starting point is 00:48:50 It ain't going to fly with D'Amico, and it's not going to fly with Casario. They took a relatively low-risk situation, but I do not envision them letting him cause problems. Now, it's part of taking him in. He gets emotional. I will say this about Diggs, for an emotional player that a lot of people think is kind of crazy. He has been a winning player.
Starting point is 00:49:15 He was part of winners. He won in Minnesota. He won in Buffalo as one of the better players on the team. So sometimes you get these guys that have this negative kind of just aura, I think the kids are saying, this negative reputation. And they're from, they're just losers because they've been around losing and they just, that's who they are. This guy's kind of a winner.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Not Super Bowl championships, but like this guy's going to the playoffs. every single... This guy's playing in a ton of big games. I went to the Niners Vikings playoff game in 2000... What year was that? 2020? First drive to the game.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Pass to Diggs. P.I. to Diggs. Touchdown Diggs. Only points they scored all game. It was like bang, bang, boom. It's like, ugh. How are the Niners going to cover this guy? He's...
Starting point is 00:50:07 I wouldn't worry as much about him. Because one, I think he's either got a shape in or he shapes out. There's no begging him to stay. You know why they don't need him? Tankdale dude's the star. Nico Collins is like 6-3-2-20. Baller. Mailbag, hot take. Trent Williams shouldn't be given a new contract. He was a liability in the Super Bowl and his age has shown. I will say this. He kind of has the Niners by the Bulls. End of the day, they don't need Iyuk. I mean, they want Iyuk. He helps them. he's a really good player.
Starting point is 00:50:47 But if push came to shove, they could trade him. They can't do that with Trent Williams. Even if Trent Williams isn't quite what he once was, he is so much better than you can combine all their offensive line, and he's not as good as that guy. I just think he's got him in a weird spot. Now, like you said, he's a little older. He had a bad game.
Starting point is 00:51:10 He also had a lot of great games. So you don't judge a man on the one game. I think what concerns One, I've heard he's asking for a lot of money As he should. I mean, if I'm him, I want, like at minimum these next two years, $60 million all guaranteed. Whether we just add more guaranteed to the money, guarantee it all,
Starting point is 00:51:31 but like that's what I would need. What are they going to say? No. Who are you going to play with? Jalen Moore? What are you going to do? That's where he really has him by the balls. So you just say no
Starting point is 00:51:45 And then you just hope This is the hard part for the Niners They could just drive a hard bargain on both guys You know what Brandon? You're going to play on $14 million contract Fifth year option You know what Trent? You're going to play on your $20 million contract
Starting point is 00:51:59 Name me a human being behind Levyon Bell In the history of the world Maybe Dave Chappelle Whoever gives up a combined $34 million It wouldn't happen But you get angry guy who are two of your best players. So this is just, it's a complicated situation.
Starting point is 00:52:21 You know, it really is. Question for the dog pound. Do you think Deshawn Watson has motivation anymore? Would love for Stefanski to have a legit quarterback in his system. Also, if you're ever in Virginia Beach, let's get a round in. You know, there's something special about just people saying, hey, if you're ever here, play golf, more than likely, might never be there. And if I was, I probably wouldn't remember the DM that I read during the mailbag.
Starting point is 00:52:49 But there's such a community aspect. Like, hey, come to Arizona. Let's play some golf. Hey, you're coming. You're coming to, I had a guy reach out. Hey, you're going to be in Nashville in a couple weeks. Hit me up. Let's play golf. You know, I know we got a bunch of waiting shit to do, but I'm going to play three rounds because your boys are sneaking one in on Wednesday. This is a picture. Looks like someone in public beach. Long time listener, I have a golf mailbag question thought about hearing your open take about the tour playing more link style golf. On the 4th of July, my buddy and I played Chambers Bay. That's a course in Seattle area.
Starting point is 00:53:28 During our round, our caddy was saying that after the 2015 U.S. Open, the USDA was upset with the course and how tough it played. Chamber does not have any major PGA events lined up for the next five-ish years. The tour could easily start playing a tournament yearly there and give the fans' TV audience a tough link-style course without super long travel or changing TV times. Plus, it's downright gorgeous. He took me some pictures. Looks pretty awesome. You know, the problem, let's use football as an example. Do you think the Eagles?
Starting point is 00:54:04 I was thinking about this day in the shower. because whatever happens in the Eagles Packers game, we're going to have, you know, if the Packers' defense still looks crappy or something's off with Jalen, there are going to be a lot of takes flying from this podcast here. But they're playing in Brazil. So is there a chance that it is just really weird
Starting point is 00:54:25 for one of the teams, one of the players, some jet lac, whatever, just a game in Brazil? But why are they playing in Brazil? because there is a governing body that is chosen by the owners, starting with Raj, who tries to do things
Starting point is 00:54:43 in the best interests of the business. So you have cohesion from the top, even though no one's always going to agree. If I was on the Eagles or I was on the Packers, the last thing in the fucking world I'd want to do is to play a football game in Brazil. I'd be like, this is so stupid. Why couldn't we just play it?
Starting point is 00:55:02 I don't know, in Philadelphia. But the league who ultimately is trying to make the most money, so the owners and the players profit, that's all they care about. And you can say sometimes that's not the right mindset to have, but it's the one they have. Yet in golf, there is no cohesion. You have all these independent contractors, everyone complains, no one wants to do this, everyone bitches and moans about this course is too hard. you know, we don't want to travel to Europe to play the world tour, live guys, and all. It's like, we got too many cooks in the kitchen. Say what you want about commissioners and they take a lot of heat.
Starting point is 00:55:44 There's one guy making a decision. It is, everyone has a suggestion. It is much harder to make a decision. And in golf, no one ever makes a decision. Yet in all these other entities, you know, in team sports, it's like, we're doing this. Whether it works or not, but we're going to try it out. The in-season tournament, which everyone's circle jerked on Twitter. You couldn't have paid me to watch.
Starting point is 00:56:08 But at least they, you know what, we're going to do this. We're all in. Everyone's in. And golf's like, yeah, we'll try this, but then no, it doesn't really work. And this guy's pissed off. And Tiger doesn't want to do this, even though he doesn't even play anymore. And he's 48 years old. It's like, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:56:25 They just feel like they're lost at sea. And in 2025, you know, you're, You don't want to get lost. Because you get lost, might never see you again. I will, because I love it. I was watching it today. I'm not the majority. I'll promise you that much.
Starting point is 00:56:43 I'm a Titans fan, sadly. I know it's early. But if Will Levis, let's just say league average, and the Titans end up with drafting the middle of the pack, would you look at drafting another quarterback, which would be the third quarterback drafted by us in the first three rounds in three years? or would you look at drafting more help
Starting point is 00:57:02 whether it would be offense or defense? I heard you say you'll be in Nashville at the end of August. If you have time, I highly recommend playing Gaylord Springs. Only 10 minutes from the airport, and it's a beautiful link-style 72, par 72. I think I'm playing with a guy in the business at Brentwood Country Club.
Starting point is 00:57:28 At least that's the plan of right now. I might only have time for one round because I got other shit to do. Ideally, like to get two in. I played there before. Someone DM me a member there, but I played when I went out for a bachelor party at a place called Legends.
Starting point is 00:57:44 My brother's a member at a Trune course and made a call and I pretended I was him and I played there. It was pretty sweet track. The thing with Levis, it's funny. In the game the other night, Will Levis will not slide. He won't slide.
Starting point is 00:58:00 and Vrable used to drive him nuts. Then in the preseason game, he lowered his shoulder against this guy named D Winters from TCU's like Dre Greenlaw 2.0. Not as good as Drey Greenlaw yet, but just runs around and tries to kill people. It's like Will.
Starting point is 00:58:19 You are going to get injured. Slide, bro. Like, what are you doing? That to me is the first thing. You cannot not slide, the NFL. This is not the Mountain West. This, hell, in the SEC, like, this is, all these guys will break your clavicle. They will break your arm. That's my first thing. Second, I don't think anyone in the building cares about Malik Willis being drafted, whatever he was, third round a couple
Starting point is 00:58:51 years ago. That's irrelevant. They took Will Levis in the second round. This new GM did, but if he's not good enough, he's not good enough. And he's going to get. get obviously a long lease this year. He's going to be the full-time starter. They've added offensive weapons. How good are you? Or do you show any progress? Do you have any, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:14 future? Like, is it something to keep developing and keep working with? But to me, if he's average, I think he'd be done. Because this new coaching staff has zero connection to him. Zero. Love the pod. I watch every night to know if certain, if you could have kept one team in a certain location,
Starting point is 00:59:37 who would you have chosen? Chargers, San Diego, Raiders, Oakland, Rams and St. Louis. To me, it's a no-brainer. You needed a team in L.A., the stadium suite, hosting Super Bowls. St. Louis stole the Rams from Los Angeles. That wasn't your team, St. Louis.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Los Angeles got their team back. So I'm putting the Rams in Los Angeles. Oakland couldn't function any longer. They're the only team in my lifetime who has lost three teams in like under five years. And you can bitch and moan and give me all these different reasons for every team. I don't give a shit. If it was one team, I'd hear you. All three teams next year, a place when I was in radio,
Starting point is 01:00:26 the Warriors played there, the A's played there, the Raiders played there. And in 2025, none of them will exist. The in and out down the street had to shut down. Why? It's one of the best businesses in all of California. Because you get robbed nonstop. That area is so shitty. They had to go.
Starting point is 01:00:46 And it's just, it's not feasible. I would say Oakland, California would be one of the last places that have had major sports teams that you would ever put a sports team in in 2025. So I feel like the Raiders in Vegas is a no-brainer. Vegas is a booming. And that stadium is awesome. It changed their franchise. Obviously they lost the home crowd, but financially they couldn't function there. And you couldn't function in the area in which they were functioning.
Starting point is 01:01:23 That strip, 66 and Hagenberger, is just awful. I mean, it is an absolute dump. So to me, it'd be the Chargers in San Diego. But I don't think that that, you know, people go, well, they ever go back? They're never going back. They just spent hundreds of millions of dollars on this new facility in Southern California. They pay a dollar rent with Cronky.
Starting point is 01:01:50 They're just never going back. First time, mailbagger. You said you like the Saints to make the playoffs this year, but are not a fan of Dennis Allen or Derek Carr at this point in time as your career. What's your reasoning and trusting the Saints when the two most important pieces of a franchise are a big question mark.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Well, Derek didn't play well the first half of last season. He played really, really bad. And the last half of the season, the last like five games, he was really good. Well, this year he has an offensive coordinator, who's a real offensive coordinator, and going to run an offense that quarterbacks thrive in in Clint Kubiak.
Starting point is 01:02:26 I don't like Dennis Allen relative to the top head coaches, but he is a good defensive coordinator. And they went 9 and 8 last year. Their defense is going to be solid. Their offense was an embarrassment. Well, if their offense isn't an embarrassment and they're good on defense, because Dennis is a good defensive coordinator, couldn't they be a 10-11 win team? I just think it's possible. Now, part of the reason I like the bet is the value.
Starting point is 01:02:52 You can just get good odds. There aren't good odds on the Atlanta Falcons winning the division. and on paper you're like this team's way better it's true but you just don't get very good odds I like the same simply because they went 9 and 8 last year they were literally a game away
Starting point is 01:03:07 from being in the playoffs and the odds are like they're more like a 6-7 win team and to me it's just Derek you can't rely on Derek to play like Tom Brady if you're going to try to have him throw 40 times a game
Starting point is 01:03:22 and just pick you apart and carry you that's not a winning formula throughout a season. If you hit play action, you get them on the move, you run the ball, which this system is going to do, it will work. Like, he can be a top 15 quarterback. So to me, it's more of a value proposition than I like love the team.
Starting point is 01:03:44 A lot of people say that there are two ways to build a Super Bowl contending team. The young quarterback on his rookie contract with a stack team or a great defense with good quarterback play. What's your thought process on good quarterback? like Tua Dac and Cousins, then draft high-end wide receiver and keep the offense young and fresh. Never pay a running back because it's more common than not.
Starting point is 01:04:06 After four years, you let them walk. With college producing consistently good-skilled positions and seems like you can get them all the way into the third round, if you stuck to the plan, you'd never get the awkwardness that 49ers are dealing with or the risk of paying a running back and getting injured quickly after paying him a high contract. Well, here's the problem with what you just said
Starting point is 01:04:28 is you assume you hit on draft picks. So it's like, just let him go and draft a guy. Okay, we draft a guy. Like, the Niners did. I think they were like, okay, Iyuk might not sign this contract. Let's draft this dude in the first round, Ricky Pearsall from Florida. Then he's been hurt in OTAs and training camp.
Starting point is 01:04:46 So I'm supposed to play real games when I don't even know this guy could stay healthy. I'm just using the Nyer's example because I just know like the details of their, They drafted a running back really high, already injured. So you can be like, oh, just let this guy walk, draft these guys. Teams do that all the time. Just draft this guy.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Okay, I hear you. Well, okay, I'll just draft this guy in the third round. We'll draft this guy in the second round. Well, is that guy Bobby Wagner or Fred Warner, or does that guy just turned into a special team or average practice squad guy? Because when you draft him, you're like, I really like them. Hell yeah. And then all of a sudden the game starts. and you're like, this guy's not very good.
Starting point is 01:05:28 I mean, it happens all the time. That's why teams, once you have a player who is good, usually pays them. Because there is no guarantee, and I love the draft as much as anyone. But just because you got, I give you three second round picks. If I gave you three second round picks,
Starting point is 01:05:49 whoever your team is, you play the season out, you go like, shit, we got a couple guys that we don't want to pay. A running back. let him walk. Let's say we got Sequin and we got some corner, let them walk. We'll draft a corner and a running back in the second round. What if that guy's not any good?
Starting point is 01:06:08 You're going to think he's good when you draft him, but then you actually have to play in the NFL. So it's more complicated than it sounds. It's so easy to talk like in theory. Every professor thinks they're a genius on the board in the classroom. It's like, yeah, in reality, like yeah in theory the supply demand uh you know inflation all then there's the real world like no one's buying our products like what we're supposed to do we did all we took all the steps followed all the textbooks it ain't working hey let this guy walk use your second round pick
Starting point is 01:06:45 on a on a linebacker fill his role okay we'll draft this dude from florida state or from Texas or wherever. Then midway through training camp, you're like, oh, you can't really understand our defense. He doesn't know where he's going. But hey, he was dominating against Oklahoma and Ole Miss. It's just, it's more difficult than that. Now, I hear what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:07:09 It's why it's hard, I would say, in football, just like any business, to have like hard set rules. Like, no matter what, we will let this guy go. No matter what, we won't pay this position. and then you get Christian McCaffrey, or you get Alvin Kamara, or you get whatever, you name the position. Most teams, like, I don't love paying middle linebackers.
Starting point is 01:07:32 I hear that all the time. Have you ever played with Roquan Smith on your defense? You had Fred Warner or Luke Keakley on your defense? Because you put those guys in your defense to see, like, yeah, we'll just let that guy walk. We'll just draft a guy. It's just not going to happen. So I hear what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:07:51 and I do understand, because it's easy to go, well, you haven't been winning shit with CD Lamb anyway. And Jared would be like, well, we're winning 12 regular season games. Well, you can't win any playoff games. Like, okay, so let's get rid of CD because we haven't got over the hump. I'm just giving a hypothetical. Trade them right now. Have some team give you a couple ones.
Starting point is 01:08:15 I mean, are you winning eight games in the regular season? We don't, wouldn't even give ourselves a chance. you're like, well, use those picks and you're just trying to draft another wide receiver. That's the thing. It's like, okay, let's say the 49ers trade Brandi-I-Yuk this weekend. They trade them. They would need another wide receiver in the draft next year. They would draft another guy who they'd be hoping to be Brandon Ayuk.
Starting point is 01:08:41 No different if you trade Cid Lam. I know they're not going to or Jamar Chase or anything. You'd just be trying to find another guy like that. And there's no guarantee you can. So even if you draft another wide receiver, who knows? The volume. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends.
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