The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 and Out - Draft Lead Up, Bobby Wagner --> Rams, Tiger Masters Hype, Dan Snyder Heat

Episode Date: April 4, 2022

John explains what front offices are doing behind the scenes on the lead up to the draft, what the Booby Wagner signing says about the Rams, why Tiger's impact on golf is unlike any star the NFL has ever seen, and why Dan Snyder's latest transgression could finally get him bounced as owner of the Commanders.Follow John and The Volume on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest content and updates and check out FanDuel for the best wagering and daily fantasy action! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And it looks like Tiger Woods is going to come back. Have a couple thoughts on that. Dan Snyder is just under attack. It's pretty clear, you know, regardless where you fall in this matter, you know, in terms of, I guess most people would be anti-Dans Snyder, but people are coming for him. And it feels like a coordinated effort to do whatever humanly possible to get him kicked out of the league.

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I can't wait. Yeah, that'll basically cover it. So we'll have a big week. As things slow down, this is a period of time in the national football league. When, you know, for the most part, the free agents, I mean, there's a couple of guys out there, right? Tyron Matthew, Julio Jones, some big names, but they're not signed for a reason. Most of the teams now are going through draft meetings, bringing players in, and getting their draft board. dialed in. To me, that is really what the next several weeks are, putting together any last

minute information you have, all the character stuff, all the pro days are now basically finished, sending any coaches to individually work out guys if, you know, you have some question mark because you can also spend time. But that is what NFL front offices are doing now, you know, April, the next two or two and a half weeks. And by that last week leading up to the draft, basically all the Hayes in the barn. Decisions are made. in terms of where guys are slotted. Now, unless you draft one or two, a lot's out of your control. So I think a large thing that happens over the next couple weeks is the scouting department

really talks about where guys potentially are going to go. You know, so you have an idea if you're drafting 20th, you know, you're not going to be able to get the guy you want at 20th. So are you willing to trade up? Are you willing to trade back? And you're kind of going over scenarios as you slot with your scouting department. and you know with the head honchos and the coaching staff is kind of chewing you know it depends different organizations are kind of aligned differently some the coaches play a bigger role some

they don't obviously some you know the coach is basically the boss like pete carroll or bill bellichick or you know in carolina mat rule i mean hell with the 49ers kow shanahan is the boss and then some teams like the rams don't have any picks so and and listen let's just go to bobby Wagner right there. Sean McVeigh is clearly and rightfully so obsessed with veteran players.

He has had the majority of his success with guys they have drafted well in the later rounds. They are not just a team of stars everywhere. They have a lot of guys that if you just listed their name the casual sports fan, they would have no clue.

Now when you talk about the Rams, you think, you know, the Aaron Donalds, the Jalen Ram, these, the Matt Staffords, the, you know, Todd Gurley's, who ironically was drafted by them. But, you know, just over the duration of his tenure there, a lot of star players at the top. I think he knows. He is clearly just, like, listen, Bobby Wagner is a free agent, so they didn't have to give up any capital to get them. And Sean McVeigh, being the offensive coordinator, has gone up against Bobby Wagner for five plus years, right, twice a season playing Seattle.

so 10 plus games of playing the guys. But, you know, money to him and clearly that organization is irrelevant. They will spend whatever it costs to acquire any player. Everyone abides by the same rules in the NFL, right? Everyone has the same salary cap space. You know, in terms of the amount of cap space, every team falls under the same, you know, that same number. It's how you choose to invest your resources. And the Rams have shown over and over in the.

over again that they are willing to pay premiums for veteran players, whether that be like buying a guy like Bobby Wagner or Alan Robinson or whether that be trading for a guy like Alan Robbins or I mean Jalen Ramsey. They will do whatever it takes. And listen, I know people, I live in 49er land, people get jealous because when you operate like the Yankees and it works, like there is no way around it. The Rams philosophy of being aggressive with veteran players through trades, through acquisitions of buying them, has been very successful. It honestly couldn't be much more successful unless they had multiple Super Bowls. They've been to multiple Super Bowls.

They've won one. They go to the playoffs every freaking year. Like they are, they've set the bar now. And listen, Tampa did the same thing once they got Tom Brady of being very aggressive. Like the philosophical idea of building slow, be imprudent using your picks, like they've gone the complete other way. And they put a lot of pressure

on their fifth, sixth, and seventh round picks, and they've hit on some of them. But the reason they've won is because they've been aggressive with acquiring high-end veteran talent. And as someone like, ultimately the goal of the sport is to win football games.

And they've accomplished that goal, consistently year in, year out. Beside Belichick and Brady and maybe Andy and Mahomes these last three or four years, nobody's Super Bowl or bust. The majority of franchises are just glad to be in the playoffs. If you win playoff games, that's a big deal, right?

Do you know how many teams would just throw a party to win one playoff game? What's the last time like the Raiders haven't won a playoff game in 20 years? What's the last time the Lions won a playoff game? The Houston Texans? Like you just go around. The Indianapolis Colts? Like, you know what they would have done to be in the playoffs this year? Like I think sometimes.

It's like Super Bowl, yeah, the goal is a Super Bowl. Like, the goal is to be worth $100 million. But you're not a failure if you accumulate $30 million, right? If you just make the playoffs, that's a big deal. Now, you could argue it's never been easier to make the playoffs seven seats. But like, you know, come on. Like, look at Michigan last year. They had an incredibly successful season.

They beat Ohio State and they won the Big Ten. Yeah, they got smashed by Georgia, but they made them. the playoffs. I'm sorry, that's a big freaking deal for a program that hadn't sniffed the playoffs in a while. They've been getting their brains beat in by Ohio State. Not everyone operates on the same wavelength. And I think the Rams have just kind of proven and made people think like there are multiple ways to do something. And I was thinking about it this weekend because right now we don't know if Tiger Woods is going to play in the Masters or not. It sure looks like he's going to. If you fall on social media, he's smiling, he's playing practice. He's

practice rounds. There is no one in team sports that is bigger than the sport. Like LeBron, let's face it, like it's kind of irrelevant now. He's been very relevant the majority of his career. But most people I know, not on Twitter, but in society, you couldn't pay them to watch LeBron play basketball on television to get in front of their TV and watch him play. They're just not doing it. Now, they would have maybe six, seven years ago. Like, to me, his star has greatly diminished. He's still good. But in terms of his ability to move the needle. it's not the same. And part of that he's been playing 17, 18 years.

We're just kind of tired of him. But if LeBron retired tomorrow, like the NBA would go on, Tom Brady literally did retire. And obviously it would have been a blow for the NFL, but the NFL would have been fine. Tampa Bay, they would have to move them off the primetime games. They just would have put someone else in the primetime games. Tom Brady is the, and Tom Brady is the best quarterback ever.

And LeBron Jay is probably the second best player in the NBA history. And if you remove both of those guys tomorrow from their sports, like in a couple of years, we wouldn't even notice. Now, I'm not saying we wouldn't talk about them. They haven't had remarkable careers and they haven't printed money as, you know, members of their business. They've been huge parts of the cash generation. But neither's bigger in football or basketball. That's just a fact. There is no baseball player who's even remotely close to as big as the sport. I mean, when I was a kid, there were players that I don't know if they were as big as baseball,

but they were damn close. Can Gravy Jr., Barry Bonds, Cow Ripkin Jr., these guys were rock stars, and baseball overall was still bigger than them. Tiger Woods is the one current athlete who is, he's bigger than golf. And listen, I'm biased. I love golf.

I've watched way too much of the Valero, Texas Open, but it's not even close. You could combine the top 20 players right now in the world. And it's loaded with high-end young talent. And all combined, they don't equal Tiger Woods. And it's kind of cool. Like Michael Jordan, to me, was the last athlete like this. Like Michael Jordan, in his heyday in the mid-90s,

was bigger than the sport of basketball. And there hasn't been anyone in any sport since beside Tiger Woods who can make that claim. So when, if and when he's playing this weekend, or I mean, he's always going to play Thursday. Friday for sure. He's never missed the cut, so I'm assuming he's going to play this weekend. It's as big as it gets. Because even Augusta, the Masters, which is the biggest golf tournament of the year, and really, even if you're not a big golf fan, it cuts through the noise. It's one of the

biggest events of the year. Like, I'm not a race guy, but I know the Daytona 500 is pretty big. If you're not a basketball guy, you know the NCAA tournament's pretty important. You know, if you're not a horse racing guy, you know the Kentucky Derby is a pretty big deal. Like, there are certain events in this country. If you're just alive, you know, that matters. matter. And the Masters is one of them. Right. But ultimately, if Tiger plays for as big as the Masters is, Tiger's even bigger than the Masters. Tiger's clearly bigger than the PGA Tour. And he is an all-time needle mover. And I don't think we've seen a guy, because I've said over and over, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady

were the Larry Bird and Magic Johnson of the NFL. Now, unlike Larry and Magic who saved a dying brand of the NBA in the late 70s and made it culturally relevant, help David Sterling. take the league and print cash into Michael Jordan. The NFL was already rolling. They and Roger Goodell and just the mindset of football went to another level. But they rode the backs of Peyton Manning and Tom Brady and that rivalry. Because those were the two biggest stars in the league. They played each other for a decade and a half.

And the league followed their lead. And the league was still bigger than those two individuals. So I just think it's, I saw Rory. Listen, was it his own fault that he got in the car accident? You know, who knows? The details. Tiger is somehow like, no one can circumvent things like, well, what really happened? And no one truly knows.

Like he was going 80 miles an hour down a hill, never touched the brakes. Bizarre situation. But I say this all the time. I know someone through secondhand that knew a firefighter that arrived on the scene and just said there were bones everywhere. So 14 months later, to be able to compete in the Masters is just an incredible accomplishment. Again, when he does not need to do this. But I'm glad he's doing this because, and as sports fans, everyone should be glad because it really matters. Because he's that big of a star.

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with the players, right? And then it's distributed throughout, well, I guess it's split with the league. And then I don't know exactly the details of how everything split. I just know the players get a piece of that. And it was reported by front office sports that, you know, they are being investigated, not by the league. Obviously, the league already did that in claim nothing happened. By the U.S. government. And someone told the U.S. government, some committee, you know, the government, they got a million fucking committees,

that Dan Snyder skimmed off the top of the 40% that he was supposed to give to the league that then they redistribute, right? that he was not giving the actual amount of money. And listen, the way white collar crime works, right? Sometimes white collar crime is not just burning Madoff, running a Ponzi scheme and pocketing all the money. Sometimes it's just like, hey, I'm in a partnership, a 50-50 split, but I'm actually keeping 70 of it, right? That is illegal if you are in a partnership and a contract that is binding, right?

Which Dan Snyder definitely is in one. So there are reports basically saying, and listen, I'm not some lawyer, just a state school guy who likes following this stuff, who likes a good television show surrounding law. But I don't pretend to truly know how all this stuff works in terms of the legalities to kick him out of the league, how he can fight back. But I do know because it's all PFT wrote,

like, if this is true, he's in major trouble as in audios. And it's been clear for a long time that the league desperately wants to kick him out of the league. That's not even arguable at this point. He's had minority owners going after him on his own, that he owns the team with. Clearly the league is kind of in a tough spot. It felt like they also wanted that,

but then kind of protected him in the email scheme because John Gruden was the only guy that got taken out. But the bullets have not stopped coming. And it feels like the majority of his, the last like decade he's had on a bulletproof vest and avoided being taken out. Well, this one might be the straw that breaks the Campbell's back.

Because if he was skimping off the top and they can prove that he knows it, to me, that's the easiest way to kick him out of the league. And let's face it, they want Jeff Bezos to own this team. And people like, oh, Jeff Bezos could own the Broncos. What if he doesn't want to own the Broncos? He owns the Washington Post. He clearly in this weird way wants to have a bunch of influence in that city politically, right?

Because eventually they're going to come after his business. This is too powerful. He's making too much money. That's, well, if he can set up. up roots there. He already owns the paper. He owns the team. He'll basically just be like, you know, essentially a Congress member. And he wants it. They know he wants it. They want to be in business with them. And they're going to try it. To me, I think Dan Snyder is going to get kicked out eventually. I don't know. This is going to be the reason, but it's just been one

thing after another, one leak after another. There are too many people actively going after and he clearly has done a lot of shady stuff to make it possible. Like if you haven't done anything shady, even if you hated me for whatever reason, you wouldn't be able to take me out. But this guy does shady stuff and there's a lot of people that want to take him out, which includes, it feels like prominent power brokers within the league to then place Jeff Bezos. And listen, you know, they're already in business with Amazon for this Thursday night game. Like I said, it's Amazon is in this business to just be in the NFL business.

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