The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 and Out -  Draft Rounds 2 + 3 Reaction

Episode Date: April 30, 2022

John reacts to the second and third rounds from Friday night, including Malik Willis and other players still on the board still heading into round 4, his favorite day 2 picks, and what teams are facin...g the most pressure. Follow John and The Volume on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest content and updates and check out FanDuel for the best wagering and daily fantasy action! #herdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:06 podcast. Usually go mailbag on the weekend, but we have the second and the third round of the NFL draft. So we'll talk about football because we're now through, as of recording this, it's 9 o'clock at night. We have round 4, 5, 6, 7 and undrafted free agency left. But we have basically the top 100 players based on how the teams view it. Now, some teams probably still have top 100 players still involved that are out.
Starting point is 00:03:36 there, but it's been a pretty eventful draft for an uneventful group of players, I would say, in terms of the star power and stuff. I thought tonight was solid. Hard to trump last night with the AJ Brown trade and Hollywood Brown trade, but have some thoughts today. Of course, Middlekopf mailbag at John Middlecoff, at John Middlecoff, slide up into those direct messages. Maybe I'll throw some of that on Sunday's pod.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Obviously, we put that on Monday's pod again, and we'll just keep it rocking and rolling as we do moving forward. But I wanted to start, I was just watching a little bit of Kyle Shanahan's press conference. I thought he had a good point. He said he thought it was a little unfair that guys just get asked, like, well, why did you draft this guy in the third? People had him in the second.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Or you took this guy in the second. People had him in the fourth. And I think the perception is such a unique event, right? There are so much noise on the outside that we have no clue about. I can't tell you, I mean, I do this for a living. I know countless people on the inside. And I have to constantly, during this draft, like, why is this guy, quote, unquote, falling? And sometimes I get a response, well, he's actually injured.
Starting point is 00:04:48 He's all beat up. We have a bad medical on him. So he's not actually falling. But because, and listen, I love Mel Kuiper. Mel Kiper's a legend. Mel Kuiper, Todd McShay. I'd say DJ's pretty good because he talks to so many people in the league. But when they put a guy in a mock draft, or they put a guy,
Starting point is 00:05:04 put a guy in a certain area, he is viewed to go in that area. Well, internally with teams, I mean, Jerry Jones, the kid that they drafted in the first round, had to defend why they took him? Because you're like, well, why did you take this guy over these other players? And Jerry literally grabbed the piece of paper as Stevens hitting his hand to knock it down, like, Jerry, do not show him. And Jerry's like, we had him graded above them. Why do I care what you think?
Starting point is 00:05:32 because the media does have a lot of pull in this because they shape the fan's perception of the value. Even though the only place where the value actually matters, like literally matters, is in the NFL, the 32 teams, how they value players. I said it over and over and over again. This quarterback class was atrocious. It was bad.
Starting point is 00:05:58 It was a bunch of $500,000 homes. We know quarterbacks. Now are basically three, four, five million pieces of real estate as rookies. And no one's touched any of these guys, you know, the first couple rounds, right? Malik Willis and Ritter, all these guys got drafted way later in the third round.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Malik Willis didn't get drafted late in, by the Titans. He's a major, major projection. People were talking about him going six overall to Carolina. He has no clue how to play the position. None. Good kid, good skill set. He's, what about,
Starting point is 00:06:32 Josh Allen, he was raw. Josh Allen was six foot five. Could run like a fucking deer. Malik Wilson is six feet tall. He can't see over the guard. You have to teach him how to play football. Now, there's a lot to like. But he'd draft like that guy in the third round.
Starting point is 00:06:48 He was properly drafted. Ritter. Like, if his comp is Dak Prescott or Marcus Marriota, like one thing we learned quickly about Marcus Marriota, he had no business looking back like he was a second overall pick. He plays like he's a fourth rounder. Dak Prescott was a fourth round pick. So it's like, and I think sometimes we're really,
Starting point is 00:07:07 I hope this guy go in the second round. What's wrong with going in the second round? Not everyone can be the 15th pick in the draft. If we drive by a skyscraper, there's, and let's say it's 30 stories high. And the corner office on the 30th floor, only one person can have, or I guess there's four of them, can four people can have the corner offices.
Starting point is 00:07:31 A lot of people in the, cubicles in the middle. Do you know what someone has to do? Clean the bathrooms. Throw away the trash. Everyone has a role. Not everyone can be the CEO. Not everyone can be a first round pick. If you get drafted in the fourth round, here's the great part about the NFL. Just because you get drafted in the third round, the fifth round, things change so quickly. If you prove you can play, you'll start in the NFL immediately. In a couple years, if you're good, you'll get extended. It doesn't matter where you start. Now it helps to get drafted higher. You get maybe more chances. But over and over and over again, pro bowlers,
Starting point is 00:08:09 all pros, hall of famers, just starting players literally come from every round. Because training camp, injuries, so many reps, so much time, there's preseason games, you get so many opportunities. Like this notion just because you go in the third round, you got screwed or you fell BS. A lot of guys, and I'll be texting like, how this guy lasts at the end of the second round, they're like, bad character, questionable person, that is definitely stuff on the outside of we don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Because when I was a scout, the majority of my time was actually not, we spent a lot of time watching film, but so much of it was finding out about the person, was finding out about character. When you say character,
Starting point is 00:08:48 I think often people think, like, is he in trouble? Is he a criminal? No. Character just means like, you know, that could be, he's immature. He doesn't focus
Starting point is 00:08:59 in the sense that he's late to meetings. He, you know, isn't a great communicator. It could mean a lot of things. It could just mean he's a 21-year-old kid. He has a lot of room to grow. I saw Eric Armstead tonight, Gabe, you know, announced the 49th or second round pick.
Starting point is 00:09:18 When he was drafted out of Oregon, people were like, you know, is this guy a little immature? He's got a long way to go. Now he's like, team captain, community leader. You know why? Because he was 21 and now he's 28. People change. But the reason he got to,
Starting point is 00:09:31 drafted 17th and not in the second round because he was six, eight, 300 pounds. You know, some of these guys like Nacobi Dean. Really good pick, a no-brainer for Howie Rosen, but the reason he was there is because he's small. I think a lot of people have questionable medical information on the guy in terms of his shoulders are beat up, his bodies beat up. He's taken a pounding at the SEC. Was he arguably the best player at Georgia?
Starting point is 00:09:54 100%. But why did Jordan Davis and Trayvon Walker go above him? Well, they're both six foot five. one guy's 340 pounds, the other guy's 280 pounds. I mean, both got, one guy looks like Fletcher Cox and the other guy looks like, you know, Vita Vaya, but 6 foot 5. That's why.
Starting point is 00:10:11 You know, the other guy's 510 middle linebacker. And listen, I think to Kobe Dean, like anyone that watched him, thinks he's a stud. But everyone's freaking out. Why is he dropping? Well, because a lot of people had him red flag medically. I bet some teams had a don't touch medically. Now, whether that's right or wrong,
Starting point is 00:10:27 the other thing is the information at the point of purchase, the information at the point of drafting, the information, when you buy a home and you get the, you know, the inspection stuff, it tells you one thing and then you live in it, it might be wrong. Like a lot of people fail people on physicals and that guy goes on to play 10 years. A lot of doctors tell you that guy's perfectly healthy and then you draft him and he can't stay healthy. You never know. These are all educated guesses.
Starting point is 00:10:52 No one truly knows anything about this. This is all just trying to project the future and balance medical information. when none of us are doctors besides the doctors. And I talked to someone in the NFL, I'm like, who'd been in part of war rooms for over a decade. And I'm like, how many different players have the doctors been wrong on? He's like, it happens all the time. You know, they kind of pound the table.
Starting point is 00:11:15 I would not touch this guy. And that guy goes on to be a really good player. And sometimes they tell you, I think he's okay. And then the guy that issue crops up. Because what's face it, a doctor doesn't truly know. He's just taking the information and he's basing it on, the information that he has. his experience, and his education on the subject matter.
Starting point is 00:11:35 So these are complicated situations. But the freakouts that happen are... Now, to me, the better... The more telling situations are like when Seattle... Think about what Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll. Fundamentally and philosophically, they did not align. Russell Wilson is the greatest deep ball thrower I think I've ever seen. It is an absolute gorgeous deep ball.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Pete Carroll, I was going to say he has wet dreams, which is inappropriate if you're a kid listening. Don't repeat that to your parents. But Pete Carroll gets very, very excited about running the football. Pete Carroll a couple years ago drafted Rashad Penny in the first round, who actually came on at the end of this year's fourth year and they resigned him. And then in the second round, he drafted a running back. If Pete Carroll could drafts running backs in the top three rounds every single year, he would. You know why? Because deep down, Pete Carroll's core is 2000.
Starting point is 00:12:29 21, Pete Carroll's philosophy is like 1992. He wants to run the ball down your throat. And do you know what Pete Carroll would tell you? Do you know how if I was Pete Carroll, how I became a legend? When we went to USC, I had the two best running combination in Reggie Bush and Lendell White in the country. And then I came and I won national championships. And then I came to Seattle. And arguably the best move that I don't think we even get enough credit for was when I traded a fourth round for this guy named Marshawn Lynch.
Starting point is 00:12:57 and when we won the Super Bowl and we got back to another, I ran it down people's throats with that guy. So when I've had success at USC and then when I won a Super Bowl in the NFL, I ran the ball. And Russell sees all of his contemporaries throwing the ball
Starting point is 00:13:11 and then he throws the ball, bombs away, and has success, but his coach always wants to run the ball. This is who Pete Carroll is. He drafts Kenneth Walker from Michigan State, who's a really good player, who's awesome, who doesn't like Kenneth Walker. But that's Pete Carroll.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Pete Carroll can't, even hide from his true colors. Because ultimately Seattle, I think it's cool with Gino Smith and Drew Locke, because they're going to think we're going to be the best running team or, you know, I mean, attempt to be. That's going to be their philosophy. We're going to play defense and run the ball down your throat. Now, we'll see if it works, but with Rashad Penny and Kenneth Walker.
Starting point is 00:13:44 And Drew Locke can be our quarterback. Now, I don't think it'll work, but I think that's what they're going to try to do. And only time we'll tell. The Green Bay Packers. I didn't realize this guy was this guy. good of a prospect. Now, in my kind of sphere and world, because Trey Lance, North Dakota State, a lot of people have been talking about Christian Watson, the wide receiver from North Dakota State because he's 6'4, he can really run. And I just, I don't know. I thought he was like a third or
Starting point is 00:14:13 fourth round guy. Not that I studied him, but I just didn't assume that North Dakota State had a top 40 prospect. And the Green Bay Packers drafted him at 34 and I start texting around. I'm like, this guy was valued this high. And they're basically just like, you get a guy that size and speed, you know, you take a big swing. And part of it is having Aaron Rogers and trying to mold him. Now, you get a guy from a small school going to the Green Bay Packers with Aaron Rogers. That is a tough transition. Devante Adams, who is currently the best wide receiver in the NFL, came from Fresno State,
Starting point is 00:14:47 where he was definitely an NFL prospect playing with an NFL prospect wide receiver or quarterback in Derrick Carr, really struggled for a couple years. It is a hard transition. And I've been saying this over and over. The pressure that is going to be on whoever is drafted, whether they had drafted someone at 22, 28, whatever other pick was, or this pick. I guess this was probably one of their first they traded back,
Starting point is 00:15:10 was going to be very, very difficult on the player. Because I would say so far, of all the young wide receivers, the most pressure is going to be probably squarely on this guy, and it's not his fault, but it's because they don't have any wide receivers. And then, again, not this player's fault. but the guy John Robinson drafted to replace A.J. Brown. So, you know, the Packers drafted a wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Hope everyone's happy. And now let's see if this guy can play because he's going to have all the pressure on him to do that immediately. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential.
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Starting point is 00:19:29 whether that player thinks it's right or wrong, thinks it's fair or not, you value the player at X number. And the reports were that it was $16 million. That's what they offered them per year. When it's clear, guys are getting $27, $28 million, which A.J. Brown's not a $27, $28 million player. But I can see from his point of view,
Starting point is 00:19:49 and I think even he said, if they had offered me $22 million, I would stay. But I said this over and over. the Belichick coaches all suck. We'll see Josh McDaniels might be able to turn it around. But the rest of the guys were an embarrassment. Beside Billy O'Brien, and even Billy O'Brien wasn't just a Belichick guy, he had been a lot of other places. But the Patricias, the judges, the Romeo, you know the crew.
Starting point is 00:20:14 They tried to copy Bill. Well, here's the thing I respect about their GMs. They all have their own philosophies. And they've proven John Robinson, Jason Light. I think Ziegler's doing a good job with the Raiders, even though he's only been there, months, they're pretty good. For whatever reason, it feels like Bill is more comfortable telling them information about how to do things than the coaches. So John Robinson, who has a long track record now of winning, I'm going to lean. He knows what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Now, I like the move as well for the Eagles, but he knows this guy well. They had a price point, and this is a Belichickian move. We have a number. We are not emotional about it. The hardest thing to do, it's easy to me in like finance and venture capitalism and just business in general to not be emotional. To not be emotional. It's all just spreadsheets and, you know, Excel and just numbers. And if you just look at it that way, it's easier just to let's get rid of this, you know, segment of the business, get rid of this. Even if people are involved. It is harder in sports because literally your business, A.J. Brown is a hundred million dollar business. So it's not just, it's just that individual. That human beings. being that they've dealt with. And you have to balance,
Starting point is 00:21:24 because you get to know these guys personally. I mean, John Robinson drafted him. But balance being emotional about the guy that let's just assume they like the person. And I could tell Mike Vrable last night at the press conference really valued the guy. And he was, it was just an uncomfortable situation.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Why? Because these decisions that Bill Walsh, Bill Belichick, decisions like this to trade away, star young players are never easy. But I respect it. You know, if you have the conviction to do it, because that's how you operate. A lot of times decisions that are poor
Starting point is 00:21:57 are because you get too emotionally connected. So I understand where they were coming from on that. The Ravens, who just consistently get good football players. Said in the first round, they got Kyle Hamilton, who was still pissed off in his press conference. They got Lindenbaum or Lindenbaum, I'm screwing up his name, best center in the draft. Then they get the guy from Michigan
Starting point is 00:22:18 who was going to be a first round pick but tore as Achilles in the pro day. Like to me, that's just, we have so many defensive linemen. We know how to create and develop these guys. This is too good of value to pass up. And it would not shock me if in like three years, Ajabu, the dude from Michigan is just an ass kicker for him. And you're like, how'd they end up with this guy?
Starting point is 00:22:41 Oh, they got him in the second round because he tore his Achilles. Because if he hadn't Torres Achilles, he's going in the 20s, and the Ravens don't get him. Maybe they take him, but they don't get the center. Like they would have to pick. Whenever the Eagles, or excuse me, the chiefs take a wide receiver who can run, you're like, this guy's going to be good. It's just one of those.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Forever the Spurs had it, like when they just drafted someone, you're like, that guy's going to be good. That's going to work. It happened like when the A's claim someone with Billy Bean. You're like, yeah, this guy's going to work. And now, because all Billy Bean's minions, like one dude's in Tampa Bay, Bay, one dude's with the Dodgers, one dude's with the Giants. They're all at different places.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Like Theo's with the Cubs. they just, the Mets, Sandy Alderson, they just regurgitate the same players. They just go from spot to spot and they're all just good. What feels like Andy Reid College wide receivers are like, yeah, one of these guys he'll take and then that guy's going to be sweet. Now, I'm not saying Sky Moore
Starting point is 00:23:33 is going to be Tyree Kill. Hell, they were comping him on television to Antonio Brown, but I think it's going to work. I think the Chiefs have had a really good draft. I mean, McDuffie is a really good player. Sky Moore is going to be a, they just plug and play
Starting point is 00:23:49 wide receivers. And he's been doing it now for decades with speed guys. This is just, this is going to work. I thought that was a really impressive pick. Another pick that I loved is the bills. Last year, one thing the bills really lacked, they drafted the corner in the first round. They're clearly a powerhouse, right? They are a true Super Bowl contender. But they had a major flaw. Their quarterback was their best running back. And listen, Josh Allen is like secretariat. He is a beast, right? He's 6'5, he's 235 and he can run. But the moment I invest $45 million, and I'm paying you that a year, I'm paying you that because of your army and you playing quarterback. If you go down, my season is over. It does not matter. I think Bill Pauline used to tell people this, like,
Starting point is 00:24:46 are we worried about the backup quarterback? And he'd be like, if Peyton Manning goes down, we're all fucked. It's so true. If Mahomes, I'm talking major injury, right? If you miss a game or two,
Starting point is 00:24:57 you got a serviceable backup, you can win. But if you lose your starting quarterback with a broken clavicle or torn ACL, your season's over. Cash money, period, point blank, go home. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:25:10 And Josh Allen is a fantastic runner of the football. But I can't risk moving forward. my franchise running around like he's doing. And their running back situation has not been great. Zach Moss, the kid from Utah, I love that guy in college, for whatever reason it didn't work. They took Dalvin Cook's brother James from the University of Georgia, who is just a big physical back.
Starting point is 00:25:35 I like that. I think that works. And they are desperate for a running back that they can just lean on. That short-yarded situations, when they're up a couple touchdowns, just run out the clock, because too often, and it happened in big games, listen, I have no problem when Josh Allen needs to scramble, he's got to scramble.
Starting point is 00:25:52 When Mahomes got a scramble, he's got to scramble. It's part of the deal. Part of the modern day NFL is to have athletic quarterbacks who can move around. But I can't depend on him in big games, where it's like, screw it, run quarterback sweeps, run quarterback power. I want to hand it to a running back. So my quarterback can watch him and see the back of his jersey
Starting point is 00:26:13 and read his name as he's running the ball. and I think the bills did the right thing. Because there's always a balance, right? A balancing best player available and need. And you want to take the best player available and the need. When they match up perfectly, you're in lockstep. A lot of times they don't. It's like the Eagles.
Starting point is 00:26:32 They took a center in the second round. They don't technically need a center. Last year they got Land of Dickerson, who can play Garden Center. They still got Jason Kelsey. But big picture, if the center is the best player on your board, you know Kelsey's probably going to retire after this year. it's like smart, big picture team building.
Starting point is 00:26:47 But the bills needed a corner, they drafted a corner, they needed a running back, they got a running back. And I think both these two guys can play. So I really, really like that pick. Anything else? I think the Jets, one thing the Jets have done, there's going to be pressure on them to win seven, eight games. Because it's going to be on the quarterback. They drafted a sweet wide receiver high. They drafted a running back really high.
Starting point is 00:27:14 They already had the North Carolina running back that they drafted last year is pretty good. I think they drafted the tight end from Ohio State. I didn't jot this down, but off memory, I'm pretty sure they did. They obviously drafted Elijah Moore last year from Ole Miss, who I remember talking to one of the guys on the staff. They loved him in like OTAs. So it's like Zach Wilson, we got to learn something and we got to learn something fast. Can this guy play?
Starting point is 00:27:38 You got Elijah Moore. You got Garrett Wilson. You now got multiple running backs. you sign the tight end from Cincinnati to go along with the tight end you drafted. Like they drafted a bunch of linemen last year. They've done a lot for Zach Wilson. It's not like they've only built the defense this offseason. They have spent, they signed Lake and Tomlinson.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Like to me, there is tangible pressure on the Jets to be competitive under Joe Douglas and Robert Sala. Here's the problem. Like, okay, the bills, like I said, powerhouse, easily one of the best one or two teams in the AFC. And the AFC we know is loaded. The Patriots like, are Zach Wilson going to beat Bill Belichick? Even if the Patriots are kind of a flawed roster, time will tell. We'll see. I doubt it.
Starting point is 00:28:23 And then Miami. A lot going on with Mike McDaniel. I saw he was in the draft room with Dan Marino having a big chew. Not Mike McDaniel wasn't having a big chew. Marino always has a massive chew in. Marino just looks like I just want to be around football. I just want to be around football. even though I don't quite want the role John Elway had because remember he tried it and he didn't last long,
Starting point is 00:28:48 but he still gets his juices flowing by sitting in the draft room. I don't blame him. If I could just show up to like a team, if I could just like the Niners like, yeah, come down to the draft room. I would do that. It has to be pretty fun because you have no pressure on making the pick. You just get to watch them make the pick and then get excited. It's got to be pretty cool. But it's going to be tough for the Jets.
Starting point is 00:29:06 The AFC is loaded. Their division is not easy. But there's going to be, like people are going to, you can't. win five games anymore. Can you have just a season where you have seven wins going into week 18 and have a chance to get to like eight and nine and just be competitive? To me, that's kind of where they're at. Because I'd say if they have another four or five win team, it's like, what are we doing here? Are we making any progress? Other than that, highlight of the night was Wayne Newton, who 80 years old, a lot of Botox, hair still dark, wasted or on pill.
Starting point is 00:29:41 or something, but, you know, he didn't barely even read the card, said Mississippi when it was actually Memphis. That was classic. I'm a sucker for just the draft rooms, everyone clapping when everyone makes a pick. Just a lot of claps in the background. That's always, always makes me smile. Just the excitement. I say it all the time. Half these guys, more than half of them are going to be average players.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Many below average players, many are going to get cut. But the excitement on draft night, obviously from the kids, you know, reaching their dream and going to sign an NFL contract. But the draft room. All these guys spend all this time evaluating the film, evaluating the person, stacking them up against the other players in the draft, stacking them up who they wanted on their team,
Starting point is 00:30:23 the scheme fit. And I've been a part of it. Just the amount of work and, you know, basically the light at the end of the tunnel. Like this is what you all, you work all year long if you're a college scout, if you're a general manager, if you're an executive,
Starting point is 00:30:38 to get for these three days of the draft. And then it ends. It's crazy how long it takes to get there, and then once you're here, it goes by so fast. And then once you draft, you feel really good about all the players, but you don't truly know until you get them at OTAs, and then you have a positive or a negative feeling. You're like, oh, if it's negative, you're like,
Starting point is 00:30:56 I'll wait until the pads come on. If it's positive, like, can't wait for this guy to kick ass. Then the pads come on and some guys fall back and some guys keep shining. It's just an awesome little stepping stone leading up to the season. But the draft is a pretty special moment. It's fun to watch. and the NFL, the Vegas, it feels like it makes a lot of sense.
Starting point is 00:31:15 It feels like it fits. You could argue just put the draft in Vegas every year. I mean, I don't think anyone would complain. Have a good weekend. Fire me some DMs at John Middlecoff is my Instagram. And we'll do this again on Sunday. Have a little pod, a little recap pod, a little draft recap pod. And yeah, have a good weekend.
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