The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 and Out - Foles Exposed; Seahawk Red Flags; AB Risk; Cam/Pats Fall Apart; Week 7 Wrap Up; Mailbag

Episode Date: October 27, 2020

In this episode, John reacts to the Bears getting destroyed by the Rams, why it's clear the magic Nick Foles had in Philly is gone, why he sees major red flags for the Seahawks, why the Antonio Brown addition is a big risk for a rolling Bucs squad, why there's no end in sight for the Pats decline, bounces around the league to wrap up the Week 7 action, and answers listener questions in the Middlekauff Mailbag. Follow John on Twitter and SUBSCRIBE now to get all the latest content!! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I thought Sunday was an excellent day of football. Obviously, the Pittsburgh Tennessee game, that Sunday night game, have some thoughts on, definitely on Seattle. I mean, something came to light in that game that I don't know. I got red flagged with them, and really I have had it red flagged the whole year, and they'll probably keep winning the spite of it,

but it's going to bite them in the ass eventually. Antonio Brown coming to a team that is absolutely rolling. I mean, the buck's just won 45 to 20. I held the week before I turned the game off at halftime when they were playing the Packers. I don't even know that that score might have been like 60 to nothing. I mean, they have destroyed their opponents the last two weeks. This Raider game was a little tighter,

but their high end once they get rolling was just on a completely different level. And Antonio Brown, pretty risky, man. Belichick obviously was pretty locked into Niners Patriots until that game was over at halftime and Cam stinks

Belichick's roster stinks I'm not phased like I'm not going to say Belichick stinks as a coach but his team's awful it really really awful the Niners absolutely destroyed them they just don't have any good players and one thing we've realized

is Cam Newton I think got us all really excited on that Sunday night game against Seattle. Well, the human we've seen the last several games, even before Corona, but definitely these last couple games, he was terrible, first the Niners. I mean, absolutely awful. So we'll dive in. I got some thoughts there on Belichick, and we'll just kind of fire around the league.

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uh listen matt naggy's my guy i've known him for over a decade i'm a big fan and it's they're five and two i mean they just got you know they got mull they got destroyed they got a kind of a garbage time touchdown from Eddie Jackson to make the score. I mean, I just turned the game off for like five minutes left. It was 24 to 10. So if the score changes, I mean, it's just garbage time points. Nick Foles just isn't that good. Now, he's better than Trubisky, but he's just not that good. He's a slow twitch player who caught lightning in a bottle with the Eagles, kind of twice, but really the one time. When you look back on that Eagles team, they had an excellent offensive line. Jason Peters, Jason Kelsey, Brandon Brooks, Lane Johnson.

This Bears team, like they do have some offensive talent, right? Their wide receivers, Miller, Alan Robinson, the tight end they drafted, I think Notre Dame kid. Jimmy Graham's still decent for them. They have some offensive weapons. Their offensive line is putrid. If you have a bad offensive line in 2018, 19, and 20 of these last several years, you can be a good team. we've seen it. We saw it last year with the Minnesota Vikings. You can win games if you have a good defense and good offensive skill guys.

And the Bears, they're going to end up with 8, 9, 10 wins. Like they're going to be, they're already 5 and 2. Like they're not going to not win more games. Their defense is good. And their offense is going to look better than I hope it did tonight. But when you have a bad offensive line, you can look like trash. Because you can't block anybody. In these last handful of years, there have never been the amount of

athletes at the defensive line position that have come in. And the reality is the same amount of good players on the offensive line positions have not come into the league. And clearly, Ryan Pace has not done a good job. Now, Matt Nagy didn't do a good job tonight. I'm sure he'll say that after the game. They got out-coats, they got out-played, they got out-physicaled. The Rams beat the shit out of them tonight.

Now, part of that might be is the Rams last week against the Niners on Sunday night football got punked, got destroyed, and they brought it to the Bears. I also think there's an element of this when you're a great defensive team and your offense is not carrying the weight and every time you look up it's 10-0, it's 13-0, it's 7-3, you know, it's just like, we're doing our job and you guys are scoring no points.

We can only take so much. The thing with football, unlike the majority of businesses, the product are the humans. So they got human emotions. And the bears clearly have enough talent on defense. They are really talented on defense. Definitely talented enough. Probably not, they're not, there's not as well coached. Chuck Pagano is not nearly as good as Vic Fangio. Vic Fangio, you know, at the end of the day, probably should have been a lifetime defense

coordinator. Like I said about Todd Bowles, just know your role. I don't blame him for taking a shot. He was never going to be a head coach. Elway gave him the chance and God, the Broncos are terrible. But Chuck Pagano is a dramatic step down from Vic. And you see it with their defense. But their defense is still fine because they have so much talent. But you can't over a putrid offense, the inability to score points. Because I don't know if you know this, but in sports, baseball, basketball, football, you have to outscore the opponent. And in most games, especially in the NFL, like teams are going to score, I don't know,

over like 17 points. Great scoring defenses are like 15. Elite scoring defense are like 15. So middle of the road, solid defense is probably, you know, low 20s. You got to score some points to win. And you watch the Bears, they not only struggle to score points, they struggle to move the ball. And it's a combination of their offensive line and quarterback play.

And when your offensive line is awful, if you have a great quarterback like we saw years with Rafflesberger, with Rogers, you can overcome it. You can have bad moments, but you can ultimately overcome it. The Bears quarterback situation is shitty. I mean, Ms. Trubisky is one of the biggest whiffs we can think of in recent memory. like you can say Baker we'll get in him a little later it may not be whatever he's still an NFL starter

right I mean Sam Donald you can say yeah he's an NFL starter you look at Mitch Trubisky he's never going to be an NFL starter again I don't even know a team that would want him as the backup so I mean I just think that and then you go to Nick Foles Nick Foles is not an ideal starting quarterback in a perfect world Nick Foles is like what Ryan Fitzpatrick is

about to be. He's there to support you. He's there to help you study. And if you get into a pinch and your guy gets injured or he's got to start a game or two, he can come out of relief. There's a reason guys are relief pitchers and there are reason guys are starters. Now, if you're a big baseball guy, you can, you know, it's kind of been skewed in 2020. But back when I was growing up, there were starters and there were relievers. You know, certain guys couldn't throw as many innings. Certain guys would just be able to throw one hard inning. Whatever the reason was. But ultimately it got separated. And that happens in football.

And some guys become really good backup quarterbacks. And I think Nick Foles is a fantastic backup quarterback. But when you have to start, game in and game out, he gets exposed, especially when the offensive line can't block anybody because he can't really move. Nick Foles is kind of, it's going to sound like an oxymoron. He's a, he's a very good athlete, but he is extremely strong. slow and just heavy-footed. So he can't move very well. He's a big-time athlete. He was a great high school basketball player. I think he was recruited to play at Michigan State. But if he moves around

like one of the slowest players on the field. So just the casual guy would, if you're just watching Nick Foles, you would think he was a low-level athlete, but he's not. He's actually just really slow. And everything about him is just kind of slow twitch. Right. You watch those guys on Sunday night football, Russell, Kyler. I mean, that's fast twitch. Even like Roger, and Mahomes, whatever they do is kind of with a purpose. Even watch Jared Gough, who is on the athletic scale of 2020 starting quarterbacks, would be near the bottom. And look how much faster he just moves around the Nick Bowles.

The Bears have a quarterback problem. That is not going to change this year. Their offense is just, they're not going to be able to score many points, bottom line. And you watch the Rams like, they have some high-end players. I mean, Aaron Donald and the Jalen Ramsey are stars. I do think, though, I don't judge last, you know, the Monday night game to, like, the bar for them. Because in their division, they have, I don't, you know, we can probably look at different statistics. In my opinion, I would say Kansas City and Seattle are the two best offenses.

When I close my eyes, I think about those guys throwing bombs and scoring points. Seattle can score on anybody, Kansas City can score on anybody. Well, who the Rams got to play twice? them. Kyler Murray and that offense is just remarkable to watch with Hopkins, Christian Kirk, Kyler is just a star, and Cliff, like, Cliff's a good offensive coach. That offense is big time. And Kyle Shanahan, last time I checked, is one of the best offensive coaches in the league.

And when Debo, Brandon Ayuk, George Kittle, Mozart will come back, like the Niners are loaded with offensive weapons. And we saw the Niners shove the Rams around last week. Now, Seattle and Arizona won't really shove you around. but they'll just throw away from Jalen Ramsey. Now, the one thing the Rams will have against Seattle is Jalen Ramsey will follow D.K. MacKaff. It'll be a little more difficult with the Cardinals

because, okay, you can follow Hopkins, that's fine. They'll just throw it to Kirk and Fitzgerald and other guys. So I just don't know if their defense is going to be good enough to overcome an offense that they do have some weapons. Robert Woods and Cooper Cup are studs, and their run game is just good because McBae is good at scheming it. Well, like when you watch golf, and I'm a Goff fan,

but he has his limitations. And he's not like going to slice and dice really good teams. Now, luckily for his division, Seattle's defense is awful. Arizona's defense is not that good. And the Niners, their past rush is not going to be the same. And he only has to play him one more time, though he's already lost to him. But I look at the Rams and, like, I don't know if they're good enough to, you know, really compete to win the NFC.

But they're clearly good enough to, like, they're going to be in the playoffs. And I think this division with the Niners, the Rams, the Cardinals, the cream's going to rise, like, do they all just beat each other up? Or does one team in the division win, go 5 in 1? And right now the Cardinals have the early edge because they're 2 and on the division. The Rams are 0 and 1 because they lost to the Cardinals. Seattle hasn't played any teams in the division. And they play the Niners this week.

So I think top to bottom, it's the best division of the league. I mean, it might sound like I'm talking shit about the Rams. I think they're probably a 10-win team. Like, I think they're good. I just, I'm going to judge them, not on the Bears. I judge them how they play the Niners, Seattle, and Arizona. And right now, I have talked a lot of shit about the Arizona Cardinals because their coaches never won anything.

And I do not trust the defensive coordinator. And as you saw on Sunday night, like, and while I'll talk about Russ here coming up, but, like, I just, no, I'm just. I respect. I love the quarterback. I love DeAndre Hopkins. Larry Fitzgerald is like my favorite player in recent memory, just in terms of player slash person. Like I'm a huge, I mean, who's not? So it's just how are they going to look when they play a division? Because it does feel like all the teams in the division match up pretty well against them. And if they slip, like if they can go four and two in the division, they're in the playoffs. If they go two and four, they'd be in some trouble.

And they play the Niners, they got shoved around. So I'm just fascinated to watch a playoff. The one thing the Rams do, and like Seattle, and like the Niners, is they typically take care of business against non-common opponents, where they drop games and just is going to be in the division. Like, they do take care of the Bears. They beat them now two years in a row. I'm confident in that. That's what the team will talk about, like, the Arizona Cardinals,

like I'm not as confident in games like we saw tonight that they're just going to win. But they will, I mean, they're playing well in the division. I think the NFC West has kind of separated itself. You know, it's got four teams that if you told anyone that they're going to be in the playoffs, we'd all believe you. You know, I'm texting with people this weekend in the league. They're like, God, you don't, the Niners kind of get their mo. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.

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I'm not backing off. My take on the coach. coaching staff, but they're players and the quarterback is just phenomenal. Now, I do give Cliff credit. He pushed for it, and it's worked out well. But I've just, you tell me these teams in the division when they play, sign me up because I'll be there. But nice win for the Rams, nice bounce back after getting their butt kicked.

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once they were able to kick the Raiders off a Sunday night football with their kind of corona debacle and just obviously they'd love to have Tom Brady but they couldn't risk the game getting whatever I mean you just can't trust the Raiders and especially even to play well in a primetime game you just don't know what you're going to get just to bring up Russ and bring up Kyler Murray obviously Russ you know him Rogers and Mahomes probably in Brady poster boys of the league Kyler Murray this young superstar and let's start with Seattle one thing that really jumped out to me was they have a major, major issue.

And there are just some fundamental things that never change in life, ever. Whether you're talking about football or whether you're talking about you want to own a good restaurant, make good food. Want to have a good television show, hire, you know, get a good script and hire good actors. Want to create funny content, find funny people. Like there's just some basic premises to different, you know, industries in life. you want to win the Super Bowl you have to have a good quarterback

and a good pass rush aka a good defense but I think as we've seen if you have a good pass rush usually your defense is pretty good and that's a problem for Seattle they don't have a good pass rush five teams in the league

have less sacks they're you know single digit sacks right now they're in the bottom third of the league when it comes to getting after the quarterback and their best defense defensive player by a country mile, the guy they traded two first round picks and a second round pick, which I like the guy. He's my type player. It's not going to help that out. He definitely

not going to cover anybody whenever Jamal Adams comes back. Yeah, he's a good blitzer, but if your safety is the best pass rusher on your team, I'm even giving you a bigger red flag. And listen, I've said this over and over and over again. In my 36, years of life. I just had a birthday. If you look, I'm getting old. I have a handful of just when I think favorite players ever. My favorite player when I was young by, you know, it was Steve Young. And you could probably throw in Jerry Rice there. But Steve was just, every kid on the playground wanted to be Steve Young thrown to Jerry Rice. I mean, those guys were the shit where I was growing up. And Steve was this such a fun quarterback to watch. And then as the Niners became kind of rivals with

the Farv Packers, like, who didn't like Farv? Like usually it's just certain quarterbacks. have a little more flair. I have a ton of respect for Manning and Brady. I don't have much in common with those guys. They're 6'5, super rich. No one can relate. If you've met Steve Yelling, he's not that tall. I actually met Brett Farber once when I worked in Philly.

He's like a little taller. But Russell Wilson, I've stood right next to him. He's basically my size. He has no business being this good. And the game is way less violent now. But I do think that Russell Wilson is my favorite player to watch ever. Like, I just never, when I watch Seattle play go, you know, I regret watching that

football game. Ever. I mean, he is that much fun. He's everything you want in a star quarterback. He's a superstar. In their offense, this D.K. Metcalf, that draft pick is going to go down as an all-timer. I mean, it's just a remarkable pick. I also texted one time a couple buddies, like, should he go in the top 10 right after he ran the combine? That's what I was thinking. Now, I hadn't watched him in college or anything. He's a star. Like, their offense is elite. their offense is dominant. But you can't win the Super Bowl if you can't play any defense.

And I was texting with a buddy with the Chiefs, and he's like, you know, kind of reminded me of us, you know, in 18. And we were just in the middle of the game, you know, he's just, he's just, and I was like, yeah, I thought that too. And then I kind of thought about it over the last, you know, 24 hours.

I was like, I don't know. You know, the Chief's defense was way better in 18 than Seattle's defense. Why? Well, D. Ford made the Pro Bowl that year as a pass rush, he had 13 sacks. I'll tell you who the Seattle Seahawks do not have. And trust me, D. Ford, who knows if he was going to play football again. But that given year, he was really good.

And he made an impact for him. Now, ultimately, he probably cost the Chiefs, right, in that AFC championship game, the offsides. But Seattle, who's even going to be in that position for them? Like, he was a legitimate star pass. They also had Chris Jones, who hadn't quite become. what he became the following year, but he was still damn good. Like Chris Jones and that version of D-Ford are infinitely better than anything Seattle has. I'm watching Seattle, they just do not have the players.

They have no impact up front. And I saw it last year with the Niners. Like Richard Sherman was good last year, but they played with Emmanuel Mosley, who actually turned out to be okay, but he's an undrafted free agent. Quaskey Tart, Jimmy Ward, aren't great cover guys. But their secondary looked unreal because they're past. rush was awesome. And watching those Richard Sherman,

Earl Thomas teams, their talent in their defensive backfield was good. Camp Chancellor couldn't really cover anybody. But their pass-russ, that front with Averill, with Bennett, with some of the dudes they had, were just unstoppable, unblockable. I remember going to games in those peak years against those early when L.O.B. was kind of coming to their own.

The defensive line did not get enough credit. Michael Bennett, listen, whatever you think about him personally, he was an ass kicker on the field. And Cliff Averill was an incredible speed rusher off the edge. Like they were getting after the quarterback. And this Seattle team is just like, is Bobby Wagner still what he was? No, I don't think so.

He's solid. KJ.R. White, those guys are solid. Those two are the least of their worries. And when Jamal comes back, he's basically a third linebacker. And I'm not trying to beat on Seattle because they had a bad loss. I think Seattle's a better team than Arizona. It took a three-pick. I mean, I have to go back and look.

That's got to be one of the worst games of Russell's career just in terms of interceptions. I know he had like a five-pick game. Remember a couple years ago, someone told me about on Twitter against the Packers that NFC championship game when they won on that on-side kick that they ultimately, I think, lost to New England in the Malcolm Butler pick game.

I think he had four in that game. But, I mean, he had two in the second half of this game. and the one to Isaiah Simmons, who's kind of a bust right now, he's not really playing, was a nice play by the rookie, but that doesn't look like Russell Wilson. And that picked a Patrick Peterson

in the back of the end zone definitely didn't look like Russell Wilson. It took those multiple interceptions in the second half for this game to go overtime. And then Pete Carroll, you know, kind of wist out on letting Russell play it, but given the clock position at the end of the game,

I have no issue running the ball, letting the clock and putting it back. It was really good drive by Kyler. But the pushback would be like, Pete, your defense sucks. Your defense is awful. You don't have any impact players. And part of the reason they had impact players

on those original really good teams when Russell was nowhere near what he is now because they hit on a lot of picks. And I'm not talking first round picks. Bobby Wagner was a second rounder. Sherman was a fifth rounder. I think Cam was a third or fourth rounder. Like Earl was a star, he was a high pick,

but most of those other guys were not. Pretty sure they got Michael Bennett for not much. They signed Cliff Averill as just a free agent anyone could have had the guy. Like they didn't really done. they haven't really done a good job. And they've had to kind of double down and spend a lot on Jamal Adams,

who again, I like Jamal Adams. I'd want him on my team. But when you factor in, he can't really cover, you know, that's a lot to give up for a guy that can't cover. So they're not going to have a first round pick for the next couple of years. I just know this. Who goes consistently to restaurants that have bad food?

It doesn't happen. The best restaurants in America make good food. It's just consistently. The teams that win, the Super Bowl have a good defense. Because the price of admission is having a good quarterback, right? Tom Brady, Mahomes. I just think of some of the, obviously, that year with Foles, Brady, Russell, Manning.

Think of the quarterbacks. There's this decade that have won Super Bowl's, right? The price of admission is having a Hall of Fame quarterback. Rogers, that's the deal. Rathesburger, I mean, that's, but you need a good defense. Without a good defense, you ain't winning the Super Bowl. So unless something dramatically changes and they can make some crazy trade for a defensive lineman, which is going to be tough because they don't have any picks because it's Jamal Adams thing.

Like, I'm not some anti-Seattle guy. You back middle-cloth, you just like the Niners. Yeah, I like Seattle too. Like, I love Russell. It's a favorite player in the league. But I'll tell you this. Like, I just, their record's going to be good. They're going to end up 13 and 3.

I would not pick them to win Super Bowl. I actually think they have no chance to win the Super Bowl with this defense. Okay, one team that's emerging as a clear league power is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They look really good. Tom looks really good. And they're doing something. that's a little crazy. Now, I've said it over and over on this pod. I'm pro-risk. I admire people that take risks. I've never been one to stay in the slow lane. I don't try to associate with people

that stay in the slow lane. I like risk takers, and I appreciate them. And one thing I think we've all learned probably this year more than ever is there is risk in fucking everything we do. Who would have known if you, you know, started a business. in 2020, you might have failed. Not because your product wasn't good enough. Not because your restaurant wasn't good enough. Not because of anything you did, but because the government mandated

you close your doors. In my 36 years of life, that's never happened. Now, if you broke laws or whatever, they might take away your business license or take away your alcohol license if you're a business or a restaurant or whatever. There are individual things that can... But if you were just following the rules

and doing everything is planned in about early, April, you were told to shut it down, close the doors. And it was, you know, 10 years into a bull market, a lot of people had got aggressive and risked a lot of things. And we've all seen the numbers. It's been catastrophic for many businesses. And I think the thing that hurts people like me the most for those type people is, for many of them, it was completely out of their control. They had no control of any of the restrictions levied by the government during this, during this virus and pandemic. It's been awful. But it is a good lesson. Like, you just never know. And some of the

richest people I've known have always told me. Like when their businesses are at their peak or they've never made more money, they're just like, you just, it could all change tomorrow. Uh, and now the older I get, like you kind of get some perspective. I mean, Monday, it's, I'm recording this, uh, you know, it's the stock market today. I, I like, I'm sure many people listening. It's, it was a You never know. I lost five figures today. Some of my socks I was way up. I was thinking like, should I cash out a little bit? Take myself a little commission,

a little Matthew McConaughey style. Ended up not doing it. There's not as much money to take out now. I'll promise you that. Now, I'm not worried it's long-term play, but you just never know. So I understand, and one thing I learned when I was in the NFL, a position of strength can become a position of weakness very fast. just because on September 1st or October 15th, you look at your roster

and you see five pro bowlers on your offensive line, hypothetically, right? Or a wide receiver group that you think is one of the best in the NFL. Two injuries later, you could be in shambles and that could be a weakness. We see it happen all the time, especially now with injuries, right? So I understand making bold plays on players. And that's what it looks like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers or signing Antonio Brown will do. Now, I knew people with the Raiders when they signed Antonio Brown,

and some of the stories I heard post-Antonio Brown were crazy. And the things were never based, I guess crazy would be strong, but just what you would think of with a nut job, right? You know, just full-on disrespect in meetings, not showing up. Obviously, the helmet debacle is publicized. The one thing you never heard, though, work ethic on the practice field when he showed was fantastic

and he's an elite player he's never been out of shape and he never hasn't dominated but everything else gets a little crazy now Tom because once you become a certain figure you feel you can take more risks I've done some reading aka some listening

I'm a big audiobook guy I've tried to just listen to different audio books definitely over the last couple months I've watched everything on Netflix and I almost said Antonio Amazon Prime. And I just, I need to, I need to read. So I'm like, I don't really want to read.

So I'll listen. And I get audiobooks and I'm an audio consumer. So I'll listen to audiobooks. I listen to Bob Iger's book just about his kind of career. And he was a CEO of Disney for a long time. I think technically he still is. He was going to retire and the pandemic and he kind of came back. Fascinating story.

Obviously had a lot of big hits because they got to the point like, we can do anything. They merged with Pixar, you know, Steve Jobs. That was huge. Obviously, they took over Marvel. I don't know if you've checked, if you're a movie watcher, that the Iron Man's and the Spider-Man's made Disney a shit load of money. But they also made a lot of mistakes.

And he talked about it in the book of like, we thought we could do no wrong. Who Wants to Be a Millionaire became a big hit. And they tried to like double down on that. He had several television shows that big time flopped. And you don't hear about that. You know, obviously ESPN, which they owned, remember they did a phone?

They obviously have several television shows that consistently flop. But we only talk about the good stuff, right? First take has been a hit. So we talk about first take, I don't watch it, but I'm saying economically for them. And obviously Disney, like not everything you do is going to go smoothly. And you have to know that in business, as you do in football. But Tampa has a pretty good thing going.

And their wide receiver room, and I would just say their weapons in general are the strength of their team. And I get Tom Brady as surely pounding the table for him. And unlike I saw it got tweeted out that Tom Brady sent Tony Robbins Antonio Brown's way. And listen, I think Antonio Brown is insane. But everyone I saw quoting the tweet, all the media people talked a bunch of shit, do you know what I would do if someone sent Tony Robbins my way?

I would say thank you. I thought that was awesome. I'm like, I commend Tom for doing that. And maybe it helped them, maybe it didn't. But, I mean, how many people have done anything? you know obviously Tom knows him as a friend so it wouldn't be like Tom sending him to me or you or some guy that like he doesn't know and selfishly Antonio Brown can help Tom Brady but like I I'm impressed by that move like that's why Tom Brady is a great score he's a high level individual he does high level shit the media who just always wants misery of course they hate that like I actually think and listen I'm not some Antonio Brown defender I would not sign him if I was them Tom wants him and I think he think what Tom has meant so far to their team, there's got to be a give and take in any relationship personally or professionally. And after Tom kind of proved his worth, and now that

Antonio is clear, and maybe if I was Bruce Ariens or Jason Light, maybe I talk to Tony Robbins and asked what he thought of him. And I saw Bruce Ariens gave a quote that he thinks he's matured. But the Tampa Bay Bucks now back-to-back weeks, they beat the shit out of the Green Bay Packers. The game was actually close against the Raiders. They ended up winning. at 45 to 20. Their high end now as a team is they can be the best team in the NFC. You're the best team in the NFC. That means you can win the Super Bowl. So they are taking a risk. Now, it's not a very expensive one and they can surely get out of the who he acts like an idiot. But listen, I don't know. The upside is they get one of the best players we've ever seen

to go along with Mike Evans and Chris Godwin and the running backs and the greatest quarterback we've ever seen with a really good coach and a good defense and they dominate and they kill everyone. Where it goes poorly is all of a sudden he starts acting weird. And I bet that's where if Jason Light was here is like, we're not guaranteeing him any money. If Mike Evans says he hates them, our wide receiver. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days I'd put on 10 pounds, I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.

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I think Belichick's the best coach ever in the NFL. I think he's arguably the best coach in sports history. His team's terrible, and they are headed down a slippery slope of, not mediocrity, of a three or four win team. Cam Newton, the guy that played on Sunday against the Niners, their team does not have close to the talent of the Niners. But the version of that Patriot team versus the Niners was much worse because of how shitty Cam Newton was.

He struggled to complete, basic routes. Like a basic out route, he didn't probably get it within 10 feet of the guy. It's skipped on the ground. His release looks funky. His ball's not coming out of his hand. He has no accuracy. He's an awful player. Now, the Niners have got their juice back, and their offense is really good. Kyle's a big time coach, and their team has just kind of found their mojo again. After the Rams game and then this game. I was not expecting the Patriots to beat him. I put money on the nineers. So nothing shocked me necessarily about the outcome.

The one thing that did shock me is how bad Cam is right now. Cam doesn't look like a starting NFL quarterback. Cam looks like a guy that should be on a practice squad. And I was saying probably a month ago that I thought this guy was the steal of the year. Because after that Seattle game, I don't know how you couldn't think that. Well, that guy has disappeared. Whether, you know, he got Corona, but he's just been bad now for a month. He's been, ever since that game, he has not been good.

And if you're not accurate, you can't play quarterback. Simple period, point blank. I think Belichick will know after this season what his long-term outlook is for the rest of the year. They beat the Bills, who knows, maybe Cam just had a couple off weeks. If they get rolled again, now the Bills, Josh Allen, who I was kind of, I was stroking for a little while, he's lost a little bit of his mojo.

And the Bills' defense isn't that good. Hell, the Jets, a team that I also bet against this weekend, cover the spread. And that game was actually pretty close, and the Bills really struggled against the Jets, which they should not struggle against the Jets. the Jets. I think we all agree, the Jets are not going to win a football game this year. But Bill Belichick and the Patriots, if they lose this game, they're two and five.

And they're not going to make the playoffs. It's over. The AFC is going to have, you know, probably seven teams with 10 plus wins. And the bills would just probably cruise the division. But the point is, his team sucks. The talent is not on the roster. He had a bunch of opt-outs, true. But Nekiel Harry, who I would have drafted two if I was him, is not good. Edelman is old. They don't have any other talent at tight end or wide receiver. Their offensive line is just kind of meh. Defensively, even their backups,

which most of their starters opted out beside like McCordy and Gilmore stink. They don't have any talent. Why not just bottom out? And as someone told me in the NFL, he's like, you know what you should do a topic on? I said what? He's like, why wouldn't Belichick

ensure the Jets couldn't get the number one pick? because let's say there are multiple teams I don't think the Jags are going to win another game it's going to be difficult for the Giants to win probably more than three games but what if Belichick

threw those two games against the Jets now Bill is a good enough coach where he probably couldn't get the number one pick they already have two wins they probably end up with four or five but he could make sure that the fucking Jets don't get it and I think I was like you know it's not really Belichick style

but if his team so terrible? If all of a sudden they're 2 and 7 or 3 and 10, why not? Lose both the Jets games on purpose. When you think Belichick and you think the teams he hates, I think two teams. He can't stand the Colts because he hates Ryan Grickson, he hated Polion, he hates the Colts, despises them. He like Peyton Manning, he hated their management. And he was right. Griskson turned him in for deflategate. Pollian was always bitching and moaning about his about his corners. I'm on team Belichick on both those two arguments.

The other team that he clearly hates the New York Jets. And the irony is the Jets, the majority of his career with the Patriots have been zero factor. They had a couple years of wrecked Ryan. But other than that, I bet if we looked up his career record against the Jets in his 20 plus years in New England, he's beating a crap out of him.

But he hates him. I mean, he hates the franchise. Maybe it was the way he left. I don't know. But what if he screwed up their path to get Trevor Lawrence. And he would not do that if his team was competing for the playoffs. He just wouldn't.

And even when Colin Coward was talking about Belichick tanking the season, I never bought it. That's not how Belichick's wired. He's too competitive, and he's just too good of a coach. Once you watch his team, and it turns out Cam Newton sucks, we also can tell Jared Sidham isn't that good. We already know Brian Hoyer sucks. His quarterbacks are awful. You can't win in the NFL when you don't have that much talent and your quarterback plays

bad. I don't care if you got Bill Belichick, if you got Tom Landry, or you got Bill Parcells. You're not going to win many games. But the Jets are on a collision course with Trevor Lawrence. And if I was Trevor Lawrence or I was Justin Fields, the one thing I would do is I would refuse to play in Jacksonville. The franchise is

just a god-awful franchise. They never win, and it's a tiny market where you can't make any money. A lot of people think that the guys should do that to New York. I got news for you. They will not do that to New York. Way too much money to be weighed with the Jets. For as bad as the Jets are, they have been successful in the last couple decades,

and they're going to have a new coach. So I just don't see any player doing that with the Jets. The market's too big, too much cash to be made. With the Jaguars, I would do that. The Giants, who knows if they would take a quarterback, what they would do with Daniel Jones. We'll see. Texans, I guess they don't have to pick.

The Dolphins would trade the pick. The Patriots have to start thinking about if they lose this week, and to me, this is a kitchen sink week. The Bills, who I don't even know if they're that good anymore, which is crazy because I thought they were one of the best teams in the league a couple weeks ago, but that is not the case anymore. I think Belichick would have to start thinking, Bill Belich, big picture,

how do I ruin the Jets season and position myself to change my franchise? So next year, I can have top five picks, a top five pick, and then picks in every round and make sure that the New York Jets don't get Trevor Lawrence. That to me is where you pivot. And that wasn't my original idea I was scout in the NFL It was actually I thought the idea was crazy And then once I watched the Niners play the Patriots

I'm like actually that idea makes a lot of sense Because Belichick not just owes it to his owner But owes it to himself Like this team is nowhere near With Brady leaving, Gronk leaving He's missed on a lot of players in recent drafts He just doesn't have any impact young guys

You watch their team in the first and second rounders There's no impact That's on him For the majority of the last 20th years, it didn't matter. Because he had Tom, he had Gronk, he had McCordy, he had High Tower, they'd always get back like a Jamie Collins, they'd make a trade for Danny Shelton, they'd make a trade for whoever, they'd make a trade for Muhammad Sunu, who cares? Turns out they gave up a second rounder, Mohammed Sanu's not even in the NFL. Well, the moment you don't have a quarterback,

all that stuff matters, because you don't have the talent around. Like part of the reason like the Niners, like right now, like Jimmy Garoppel hasn't been very good this year. Well, in their wins, it doesn't matter. They got George Kittle. They got Brandon Ayup. They got Debo Samuel. Still got Fred Warner. They got impact players.

They got Trent Williams. They got impact players at other positions. Rahe Mostert. They got good backups. You know, guys that can make plays. The Patriots don't have any guys that can make plays. You're watching the Niners play the Patriots. You're like, this is varsity versus JV.

Belichick's no dummy. He understands that. And if Cam Newton's going to play like shit and Jared Sidham just isn't good, to me the move is just ensure you keep losing. But make shit. Sure. You lose those two Jets games. Okay, let's dive into some stuff from this weekend. We'll just go kind of rapid fire things I saw, things that happened, some thoughts.

Start on Saturday. I talked last week about Justin Fields. You know, I did a little drinking this week, so it wasn't super locked in on Saturday, but did catch a good amount of the Ohio State game. He's going to be a really good player. He is a good player. Ohio State's staffed. They should be a playoff team. You would think maybe Michigan

giving a better game, Minnesota. Their schedule is pretty easy. I think, yeah, they would play Penn State because they're on their side. But Penn State losing Indiana. Obviously, Clemson's really good. Alabama, who, you know, I love Alabama, but Jay Leno Wattle broke his ankle or leg or foot or something.

I think his ankle. He's out for the season. That's a big blow to Alabama. I mean, their defense stinks. Stinks would be strong. but it's nowhere near what it once was. They're an offensive team. And Najee Harris, Baller, Devante Smith Baller, and Jalen Smith Baller.

And now with no, you know, Waddle, it's not going to be as easy. I hope it doesn't impact his draft stock that much. I doubt it will as long as it was a clean break. But that was a pretty big blow. It's about my only takes probably from Saturday. It wasn't too locked in as the day went on. But Sunday, woke up ready to watch some NFL football. Pittsburgh, Tennessee, everything I want in an NFL game.

I say it all the time. I watch football for several reasons. Like I love the two coaches and just the tactical side of the sport. It's an intellectual game despite being a very violent game. And I love the violence of football. For as great as Sunday night was, it gets a little seven on seven for me. Now, I enjoyed the game. Now, granted, I had the over in the Sunday night game, but I'd rather see kind of an old-school

dudes getting blasted on every play. And Tennessee and Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh brings the heat. And I think Tennessee, like, it's pretty clear, I'd say Kansas City is the best team in the league. I'd put Pittsburgh number two. If Pittsburgh's the second best team in the league, it's pretty clear the Titans are damn good too. And Derek Henry is just a star. I love Rable.

That was a very, very good showing. When they easily could have tapped out, because Pittsburgh was kind of, to dominate and earlier. But I just love the physicality of that game. And just, I mean, it felt like round two of the playoffs. It was awesome. I mean, this is an impressive little stretch. I mean, we'll see how impressive it is.

Pittsburgh plays the Ravens this week. I think it's in Baltimore. But that game was fun. I mean, remember, we had to wait for it because the corona test with Tennessee. So it eventually came, and it definitely lived up to the hype for me. the Browns I tweeted something early in that game that if you just watch the quarterbacks

there's a chance that if you're just talking about talent Baker Mayfield might be the least talented player for a starting quarterback in the league all 32 now you could argue a couple guys at the bottom but he's a bottom five talent not a great athlete not a great arm and everyone's like oh he beat the Bengals yeah they're the Bengals I mean they're going to win

two games max this season They suck. Now, Joe Burrow, Stud, covered every spread this year. I think he pushed week one, but he's an excellent player. Like, it's just eye-opening how good he is, given how shitty his offensive line is. If I was a Bengal fan, I couldn't wait for this off-season and just to keep building around Joe Burrow.

And the Browns, their playoffs this weekend. They beat the Raiders. I just don't see how they're not a playoff team. They'd be six and two. I mean, they probably won't beat the Brown, or the Ravens or the Steelers this year, but it won't matter. Because you're 6 and 2, you basically can go, they could probably go 3 and 5 the second half of the season, and get that 7th wildcard spot. Because they'd have the tiebreaker over the Raiders.

Raiders would be 3 and 4. The three playoff spots would either be the Ravens or the Steelers, who doesn't win the division, and the Browns and the Colts. That'd be your playoff teams right there. You know, your wild card teams, excuse me. Then the Bills, Chiefs, and Titans, and then, like I said, the winner of the Steelers and the Ravens, whoever wins the division. So you just, that'd be the playoffs. It's pretty crazy.

I mean, the Browns can borderline solidify themselves as a playoff team this year. And I think that it's going to be the hard part is, and this gets back to Baker, they could do that without really beating anyone good. You know, they really could. I don't necessarily consider the Raiders good, but, you know, if they get swept by the Ravens and the Steelers, I think they're would be heavy underdogs, obviously, in the wild card. But it's, listen, the Browns make the playoffs. Everyone should rejoice. That's a huge step forward for the franchise.

The Lions? Now, I guess they have a good win over the Cardinals. But they're somehow three and three. Like, you just watch them, Stafford. I don't think they're going to be good enough on D. But I don't think they're going to be the complete train wreck that we once thought. I had a little cash on them, too, so it was cool to see that moment. I don't know.

I haven't seen any Patricia's quotes. You know, he's Belichick, so he probably wouldn't admit it. If they told their defender to pretend to tackle him and, you know, kind of mentally psych him out so he could score. Obviously, Todd Gurley, if he could do it over again, would have stopped. I think it's hard sometimes your instincts take over. But letting him score, you don't sometimes see that, was 100% the right play. We talked a little bit about the Sunday night game and Russ

and just the Seattle's defense. But I've talked about it before. that graphic last Monday night of Kyler Murray being 24 and 0 or excuse me 42 and 0 in high school and a bunch of people in Texas had tweeted at me who said they saw him in high school, thought he was the best high school quarterback

in the history of the state which is really saying something. When you factor in how short he is, it's one of the most remarkable things I've ever seen. I mean that guy is so fucking talented it's stupid. His athleticism, his sports, speed, his arm talent, his arm strength, his accuracy when he's in rhythm, he is, he's box office, you know? I mean, he really is. I liked him in college, who didn't? I mean, it was hard

to watch him and not think he was a big time talent. Beside Cliff Kingsbury, though, I don't know if anyone thought he'd be this good. Like, he's eye-popping where you just watch him, you go, that's like what a pro-bowl looks like, pro-bowler looks like. And one thing's pretty clear is the way they handled the Josh Rosen deal. It was never going to be a right way to handle it. You would take Tyler Murray over Josh Rosen seven days a week and seven million times on Sunday. I mean, it's just, it's probably the easiest deal that I'll ever do. And they nailed it, and it changed their franchise.

Now, we'll see. I mean, I still don't trust them when it comes to the Rams, when it comes to Seattle, when it comes to the Niners. When they just play random games, I feel better about them than I do the Cardinals. And you've seen the Cardinals have lost the Lions. They got killed by the Panthers. But I do think the Cardinals play well against the NFC West. Beat the Niners Week 1 at home. Just beat Seattle.

I think they'll probably, at minimum, split with the Rams. They're going to go probably at worst three and three in the division. There's a chance they go four and two. So can they go six and four in their out-of-conference games? And they get the NFC East, but that's the thing. If you told me the Washington team or one of the random NFC East teams beats them, they kill the Cowboys. but the Eagles, I'd believe it.

But if they can take care of business against the NFC East, probably a playoff team. I would have to eat my words a little bit. Now, their defense is awful. Isaiah Simmons, I was texting with buddies in the league. I mean, all of my friends thought he was the most overrated prospect in a long, long time. And when I say overrated prospect, I mean, the hype on a guy that was clearly going to go

probably in the top 10 that I had buddies that said, like, I wouldn't have taken him in the first couple rounds. and he struggles to get on the field. Now, he did make a nice play against Russ that pick, but the biggest beef against him is he doesn't have a position. He's not physical and instinctive enough to be like a middle linebacker, you know, like a Fred Warner despite being a good athlete. And he's kind of stiff where he can't just play deep safety.

And, you know, you need a really dynamic coordinator to use them. And I see people tweeting like, well, they use Buda Baker. Buddha's just a more natural instinctive, he's a safety, he has a position. Isaiah Simmons could not do what Buda Baker does. And Buda Baker is good. I didn't realize, I feel like I've watched like at minimum half the Cardinal Staps this year. And every other play, the guy dominates. That guy is a badass, huge Buda Baker fan here.

That's probably, I don't know, I guess there's, what are you going to say about the Cowboys. I mean, I've said my piece. I get a lot of DMs. Like, why do people in the national media keep talking about the Cowboys? What we do is pretty simple. You know, if you have a television show or a radio show, a national show, you talk about the biggest brands, because that gets the most amount of people. You wouldn't spend time talking about the Tampa Bay raise when you can talk about the Yankees or the Dodgers. You know, at the end of the day, push comes to shove. That's the best part of the NFL. Like, you can talk about smaller markets because Aaron Rogers, Russell Wilson,

they're national brands, but the Cowboys do resonate with a lot of people in America. And there are a lot of people. The Cowboys have a large quantity of fans. It's just basic business. If you want the most people to listen to you, you talk about the thing that most people like, you know, or are passionate about.

And the Cowboys do have a huge fan base. Like Ohio State. I mean, I bet Ohio State, you know, I've said this before, probably is like a top seven or eight, football brand, including the NFL in America. And it's pretty clear the ones that are, right? It's the Cowboys.

It's the thing about the Packers, despite being a small brand. They have a huge, huge market. It's why the Yankees and LeBron. I actually think the LeBron thing has jumped the shark, and you see the NBA ratings in the tank. LeBron has now been such a public superstar for so long. I think people are just tired of him. Like, his topics bore me.

They bore me, and I like basketball. But you're going to talk to LeBron. I'm going to change the channel. I've been listening to it for 17 years. I think he's one of the best players I've ever seen, but I just don't give a shit like that his kids smoked a joint. And like the moment that happens, all these... I unfollowed Bleacher Report like a week ago.

It's the best thing I ever did. Like, if you guys tweet out one more picture of what LeBron's backyard looks like, I was going to puke. I've unfollowed it and I feel like... I feel liberated. I feel great. I mean, their tweets are just so stupid. And yeah, the Cowboys stink.

Okay, let's go a little Middlecough mailback. At John Middlecough is my Instagram handle. Slide up in those DMs. Get on this little thing we like to call a podcast. And yeah, we'll go from there. Okay, I told this guy that I would answer his question, Dylan, this week because I did not answer it last week. Updated my question for the pod. So this Dallas defense might be the worst defense I've ever seen.

Apparently, forgetting how to play football is a symptom of COVID in Texas. Trying to be realistic and optimistic here, and I predict we will go 5 and 11 end up with a top 10 pick. I optimistically assume Jerry will do the right thing and can Mike Nolan. Who are your realistic DC options for Dallas? And what do you think with that pick? Ideally, the offensive issues with Dallas sort themselves out with the return of the offensive linemen, defense needs free agents,

draft help, so what do you do? Thanks again for taking the time. No problem, buddy. I think the main issue, if you're the Dallas Cowboys, is you're not Mike Nolan, who I said was the number one problem. And, you know, I'll take a little victory lap. Again, it's not like I was in college when he was the coach of the Niners. He's like, have we followed football?

Mike Nolan hasn't been a defensive coordinator in over a decade. No one was making him the defensive coordinator. He's just not a good coach. He's just not a good coach. And he wanted to change the scheme. wasn't going to work. Now, I'll be the first to admit. I didn't think it was going to be this bad. I just thought that they would, I mean, to be honest, I probably thought they'd win eight or nine games, and their defense would just be below average. They never thought it would look like this.

I think what Jerry has to be doing, and I've talked about it before, is mistakes in business are really costly, and anyone listening in smaller businesses know that sometimes you just can't overcome them, so you almost have to write them out, because you can't afford stuff. And, you know, It's why Fortune 500 companies always typically have the money to make up for mistakes, but they're just the Excel spreadsheet. They don't want to lose money that sometimes they get into worse situations because they don't cut bait. Jerry, it's pretty black and white. Money is no issue for Jerry, yet he's watching Mike McCarthy be one of the worst head coaches in the league.

What does Mike McCarthy do? He doesn't call the offensive plays. He obviously has nothing to do with the defense. I thought Mike McCarthy was a solid head coach. I gave him the benefit of the doubt. I'm like, listen, Rogers, you know, this intellectual elite who's a great player, but just, you know, they had a fallen out. You know, I know that article said that Rogers thought he was a meathead.

I was like, listen, we all, for whatever reason, every single person listening has people they just that have worked with that they just don't like for whatever reason, boss, coworker, whatever. And sometimes the longer you're around someone, the more you hate them. so I was just like, you know, I just, I think Roger is the more talented of the two, but let's just let this play out. I think Mike's a solid head coach. I don't think that anymore. I think Mike's a terrible head coach. I just watch his team every week, and I'm not even judging them off like plays or scheme. I'm just judging them off effort. It's just a lifeless,

effortless group. That hit on Andy Dalton, no one caring, no one, does anyone even like each other in the locker room? Now, fairness to Mike, he doesn't pick the players, the owner does, who also the GM. Cowboys are in just a terrible spot. I mean, they really are. I don't really know what to do. They're just in a terrible spot.

A big fan of the pods. Listen religiously. Fellow Ag business major here from Colorado State. I feel like the Broncos don't get the credit as one of the best franchise in the NFL. I know they suck lately and I know I'm biased, but I think they should be the top five programs of all time in the NFL.

They've won three Super Bowls and they've played in eight of them, considering they've only had nine losing seasons and the history. I think they should be considered one of the best franchises in football, but don't hear anything about them from NFL media, giving them their praises. They give it to like the Steelers and the Ravens

and other franchises praise, understandably, but I don't hear much other about the Broncos. One of the best quarterbacks of all time in Elway and one of the most underrated owners and Pat Bowlin. Just wanted to know your thoughts on Denver as far as the top five NFL franchise of all time. Also, who are your top five NFL franchises. Yeah, I mean, listen, the Denver Broncos are an elite franchise. Denver, badass place to live.

Like you said, a ton of history. You don't lose that much. You've won two Super Bowls with Elway. You got back again with Peyton. You won another one. Peyton's last year in the league. Like, the franchise is badass. They're just going through a rough time.

Their team looks terrible right now. Now, they've had a bunch of injuries. But, yeah, I think it's a big-time franchise. I don't know. What are we basing big-time, like, franchises off of? Like history, how much money they make, how popular they are. You know, I think if you told me that you could go work for the Denver Broncos as like a head coach with the GM, I think that would be a badass job.

Now, would you want to be the head coach of this Denver Bronco team? Probably not. You got to answer to John Elway, who is the most famous player in the history of the franchise. And I've always supported John Elway when a lot of people are shitting on him. Like, I think he's pretty good at his job. But I don't know if he's the easiest guy to work with being the head coach. He sits in the box and listens to, or at least he did before. I haven't really seen the Broncos play this year

But I remember with Vance Joseph He'd be in the coach's box listening It's like bro, you're not Al Davis here So I think that element in the franchise is a little tough My top five franchises I mean, I don't know You know, the Cowboys The Packers, the Steelers

You know, the Ravens have only been doing it 20 years But if I bring up the Patriots They've really only been good for 20 years You know Growing up for the first 20 years of my life life, the Niners were kicking the shit out of everybody. So, you know, I think, I think there are 10 franchises that are well-run, that make a bunch of money that have huge...

Part of it is having huge fan base because you can make a lot of money, right? Like, the Niners have a way bigger franchise... Fan base than the Seattle Seahawks. But if you just look at the last 10 years, Seattle's been way better than the Niners. But the Niners make more money than them, bigger market. You know, the Cowboys who don't win make more money than everybody. The Packers who don't have that big of a market, who I've been... to Raider games and Niner games

against the Packers, I swear to God, it was majority Green Bay Packer fans. Packer fans, they have a massive fan base. Same with the Steelers. I've been to both Steelers and both those places too, and they sell out. I mean, I think those two franchises are big-time franchise. I think the Patriots

became that with Tom Brady. Now, do they maintain it if they suck? We'll see. Because their history is not like, you know, the Cowboys, the Niners, you know, a team like that, the Steelers. It just kind of started in 2001. I'm biased, but I work for the Eagles. I know they're having a tough year,

but just in terms of the way they run, the money they make, the power in a city that's the top five or six market in the league. They're big time. I mean, the Giants, when I was in the NFL, they went a Super Bowl.

But they've fallen on really, really hard times. I mean, I think we could argue 10 franchises depending on the year and how things are going. You know, the Steelers just, they're always good. The Steelers are consistently always good. And for the most part, the Packers, you know, once Ron Wolf got there in like 92, 93, they've been pretty consistently good since, you know, I was like in fifth grade. And I'm 36 and bald now.

So those franchises, and the Steelers probably would be the cream of the crop just consistently. I mean, they've had three coaches in like franchise history. To me, they feel like Ohio State football or something. They just don't have down years. when are you going to give us the story on getting the boot from Collins podcast? It's not getting the boot from Collins podcast. You guys will know here in the near future. It's not a bad thing.

I just need you to go subscribe to the three and out podcast by itself. I appreciate that. You'll figure out why and it'll be cool. And we'll laugh about it. We won't really because I don't know any of you guys. But you listen and you can DM me and we'll shoot the shit about it. Love the show and the takes. All I keep hearing is teams that may trade a first round pick for DornRour

The Cardinals were only able to get a 60-second pick for Rosen, which is basically a third-round pick. Donald is 11 and 19 as a starter and soon to be on an 0-16 team. Not sure why teams would give up a first-round pick for a quarterback who has done dog shit. I'm a Steelers fan, and that is what people are saying the Steelers should do. I saw last year what Life Without Ben looks like, and I just don't think Donald is the answer. Thoughts.

Well, I think everyone in the league, first off, most people didn't love Rosen coming out. He was a very polarizing prospect. So a big thing when a guy like Darnold or any young player gets traded is you're basing a lot of it off a guy like Sam Darnold, if the Steelers, if the Colts, the Niners, whoever,

were to be aggressive for Sam Darnold, you'd be basing a lot of that for how much you love Sam Darnold in the draft process and what you thought he would have been on your team because he's still 23, 23, 20. 24 years old. And you'll just point at the Jets as being the village idiots. Kind of what the dolphins did. I would imagine the dolphins like Josh Rosen. Here's the thing. Most of the league did not. My friends in the NFL did not like him.

He also had some attitude, just some personal issues. It wasn't like bad character, but it wasn't, Sam Donald was great character. Really good talent. Now, he had to be molded, and he went to the Jets who were just a dumpster fire. Now, I'm with you. I don't know what the exact value would be. If you're the steel, and let's say you go to the AFC championship game. Let's just go a hypothetical here. And you'll lose. And you go, okay, we're drafting 28th.

So 28, 29, 30, 30, 31. So you'd be drafted 29. 29, 39, 30, 31, 32 are the last four picks. And let's just say that's the pick, 29. You go, well, it's Corona. I only got like eight games of data on all these prospects. Some of them didn't even play. I don't have a great feel for this draft class.

Ben is telling me He's probably got one year left Now Ben I could see acting a little like Farv But I think when you watch him against the Titans He throws a couple bad plays He has moments where he really looks his age But he's still

He's an all-time great So all-time greats even when they're at like 80%. I mean shit I watched Peyton Manning I went to a game I went to two games that last year He couldn't throw it from me to the wall And I could touch the wall right here He was awful but he was so

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So I just think you need to prepare. So could you trade, does it make sense for the Steelers to trade a first round pick for him when he wouldn't even play on your team next year? I don't know if that makes much sense because you have to pick up his 50s. your option but next year he wouldn't he was a third pick in the draft so he doesn't make i mean it's not like he's making 800,000 dollars i would imagine you're making five or six million dollars Steelers have some cap issues i'm sure too uh ideally you'd like to get him for a second round pick i just part of it's a competition because if the Colts have a much better second round pick

they can just offer their second round pick who would the Jets take their second round pick or the steelers second round pick where you just take the better pick it's just all about market value. To me, a first, you know, I'm a big believer of this when you want to live somewhere. Like, if that's where you're going to live, and you're going to live there for a while and you know you're going to live there for a while, like, overpaying for a house, if that's

the house you want, like, you live there. I think people do get caught up. Like, if you're flipping houses, I was hanging out with this dude that flips houses this weekend. He is so unemotional about the houses. He looks like, he looks at a house like you and me look at a sandwich. It means nothing to him. Flips it within

30, 45 days. He's crushing it. Doing awesome. Great. Really impressive young. He's like a year older than me. He's really impressive guy. But if you're going to live in a house, like, who gives a shit if you got to overpay a little bit? You're going to live there, especially if you have kids and you have a good yard, you got a lot of rooms, whatever you need. I think people kind of overthink that sometimes. Like, yeah, when I bought this condo, I was like, you know, I want to live here the rest of my life. You kind of try to play the market, you know, even though I paid way more than the asking price, but that was just Bay Area real estate at the time, which I just saw something on the internet

it today that the Bay Area in California in general the last three years mass exodus. Hard to blame people. You know, eventually you start taxing people that make $50,000 nine percent. You know, eventually they're going to say, see you. But that's a whole another discussion. I just think if you like the quarterback, you got to be aggressive. Because like you said, you saw no Ben last year and it's a miserable fucking feeling to have no quarterback. Awful. It'd be the equivalent of like any team, if you ever watch a baseball, team, whoever your favorite baseball team is, and we got a lot of younger listeners, I don't know if you watch baseball, if your team can't pitch and your bullpen is bad, you just watch the same

thing over and over and over again. You're like, I can't do this. And when you watch a football team with a bad quarterback, it's like puke, you know, I'd rather watch a movie than two bad quarterbacks play a football game. I can't. Like, it was tough watching Nick Foles tonight. It really was. It really was. I think the key is if you like him, he's got to be aggressive to get him. Now, is he good enough? I like him, but I'll be honest. Like, I don't feel quite as confident as I did

three years ago. But is that the Jets? Is that is it him? That's the hard part. Like, this is why I do a podcast now. This is why I don't work in the NFL. I don't know. I can see both ways. I wouldn't be

probably that confident doing it. And, I'd say the Steelers, you know, I think there were rumors last year they didn't really like James, so I couldn't see them doing that. I don't know what quarterback they'd be interested in. What grows in the forest? Trees? Sure.

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Who do you think would work? What are they doing the Niners and Pats? I wasn't super locked into the audio. I actually think my one take on Nance and Romo is Nance, or excuse me, Romo has really lightened Nance up. Like, I'm a big golf guy, but Nance is a, you know, pretty cheesy. I mean, it's kind of a schick. Now, I like it.

Again, I like the golf cheesy bullshit, but I could see where when I'm like in football mode, I'm like, Jesus, Jim, just call the fucking football game. And he just, him and Phil, when Phil Sims was doing it, it was a bad broadcast. And I think bringing Tony in has really, lightened them up. I actually think they have a lot of fun. Maybe I'll have to go back and maybe I'll have to go back and watch the broadcast because I have one thing I feel very confident

at with those two guys is Tony has been really good for Jim and Jim likes them and they kind of really get along. Now sometimes I think as like a broadcast purist, which I'm not, I do think Tony kind of screws around a little bit and I'm a huge Tony fan. I wish I was friends with Tony Romo. I want to play golf with Tony Romo. I want to hang out with Tony Romo. But when I'm watching the game, and I don't watch that many Tony Romo games, because I watch probably more on Sundays the NFC game with the TV, because usually the Niners, they just play a lot of those 1 o'clock games. I usually have that audio on, and those guys call it the AFC game,

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I got to go back and look at that. But I, I'm telling you, I think that, uh, I think Nancy loves Tony. Maybe I'm wrong. Appreciate everyone listening. Have a great week. And, uh, come back Friday. follow me on Instagram. Shoot me your Instagram DMs. Adios. May the peace be with you. Godspeed. See you.

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