The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 and Out - Leave Dak Tagged For 2020; CFB Corona Spikes; Top 5 NFL Sophomore Breakout Players; Mailbag
Episode Date: June 23, 2020In this episode, Middlekauff explains why the Cowboys should let Dak Prescott play 2020 under the franchise tag before marrying him long-term to Mike McCarthy, his take on the recent spike in coronavi...rus positive tests at certain programs, gives his Top 5 NFL 2nd year breakout players in 2020, and answers listener questions in the Middlekauff Mailbag. Follow John on twitter @JohnMiddlekauff and go to theherdnow.com to find the latest content. Subscribe now! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Despite, you know, quarantine and the coronavirus and weird time, no football, we still got a lot going on.
And Dak Prescott was announced he's going to sign his 31.4 franchise tender.
A bunch of people, I'll dive into that.
A bunch of people in college football have tested positive, different schools, have some thoughts.
I will do my top five breakout players for second year guys,
guys that were drafted this last season in 2019.
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I actually think I got a pretty good list.
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Makes it easy. Okay, let's dive into Dak Prescott. And over the weekend, maybe Monday morning,
I can't even keep track. It was reported, it must have been Sunday, that Dak Prescott will sign his franchise
tender. A comfortable amount of money, $31.4 million to be the quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys.
Now, they still have several weeks until the middle of July to get a long-term deal ironed out.
But I've always wondered this, and I think my generation, the number show we're getting
married a lot later, having kids a lot later. My parents' generation, I mean, my parents were older,
but the majority of their friends and people's, you know, in the 50, 60, 70s, got married very young and had children very young.
And I never understood rushing into marriage.
No, I've never been married.
I'm a single guy.
But, you know, I've dated many people.
I'm dating someone right now.
And there is a process to get to know them, right?
It takes time.
You wouldn't go three months in.
You hear some of these stories like movies about it.
I knew right away, get married.
Typically, those don't work out.
You see some of these reality shows.
For the most part, I'm red flagging those situations.
And I just don't understand the rush when there are major question marks.
And we see it all the time.
That's why the divorce rate now, because it's much more normal to get divorced in 2020
than maybe it was.
I mean, clearly it was in like 1980.
Divorce rate's really high.
You know, a lot of people find out, I don't like the person.
And here's the thing.
Once you have kids, once your job situation, once you've been married a certain amount of time, depending on the state, it gets very expensive.
The NFL is no different.
When you rush into situations financially and put a lot of guaranteed money in front of players, it can be a very, very expensive mistake.
Now you go, John, well, the Cowboys have been dating this guy for four years.
I'd say, yeah, Jerry and Stephen have.
And if Jason Garrett was still there, I'd go, this is a little weird they haven't signed him to a long-term contract.
But they got a new coach.
And his name is Mike McCarthy.
and he's never coached Dak Prescott for a day in his life.
Now, part of it is these crazy circumstances
and didn't have a chance to work together in OTAs.
But you can't convince me that Mike McCarthy is banging the drum
for them to sign him to 130, $140 million contract.
Because if I was Jerry and I could take a step back.
Now, I know it's hard, he's in his late 70,
so it probably would have to be Stephen.
And kind of being the voice of reason
and everything that's been reported over the last decade,
Stephen has become that.
Kind of a calming voice,
not as emotionally invested in everything,
has learned from his dad,
feels like a pretty high-level guy,
and kind of can be this buffer.
And the Cowboys have become,
let's face it, very, very stable
over these last several years.
You could argue too stable
because they let Jason Garrett coach for too long.
But that's, you know, water under the bridge.
They're at where they're at now.
And they got Mike McCarthy,
who if I was the Cowboys and I was Stephen Jones,
I'd play it out like this.
I'd date him for another year.
Now, it's an expensive date, $31.4 million.
But what has Dak Prescott done where you would go, you know what?
And again, you'd say, well, Middle Cough, Jared Gough, got huge money.
I'd say, I wouldn't have paid Jared Gough huge money.
Carson Wentz got huge money.
I would be more likely to pay Carson Wentz money just because of his physical attributes
that are far superior from Jared Gough and Dak Prescott.
Now, Jared Gough has accomplished more than Dak.
He had success two years ago in the playoffs
was starting quarterback for a team that was in the Super Bowl.
But he has severe limitations.
And I'm a Jared Goff fan.
He can't move.
When he's in the pocket and their offensive line isn't very good,
he can't move.
He's an old-school pocket quarterback.
He's not an athlete.
That's the one thing Dak Prescott brings to the table.
Now, I'd have to really dive in which guy I'd rather have.
I'd probably lean Dak.
But again, I understand in football,
typically when it comes to these contracts,
it's based on comparables.
I just, I look at, if I'm the Cowboys, I go, I don't want to do what the Rams did with Jared
Gough, though Dak Prescott, it may turn out that he's better.
I got to see him work under this coach.
The one thing the Rams had is they had set two years of Jared Gough operating with Sean McVeigh.
I don't know how this thing's going to look.
And if I get into a situation where I've guaranteed him $110 million,
and we go through the season and it goes, yeah, this isn't really working.
whatever it is with McCarthy, they don't really mesh.
I'm not saying that's going to happen, but it's a possibility.
We don't know.
What is the point of rush into Vegas and getting married?
And I understand he's been there for a while, but they change coaching staffs.
And anyone that falls football, especially the NFL, when coaching staffs change,
there are major, major changes within the personnel department.
And I don't mean the scouting department, sometimes that happens too.
I'm talking about the personnel on the team.
There's usually a lot of turnover.
Now, what makes the Cowboys unique is they have a lot of set guys.
They remind me a little bit of when Harbaugh came to the Niners,
though the Cowboys have had a little more success recently.
They have a lot of really good players.
They have a lot of players that a lot of coaches would line up to coach.
They have a roster that many coaches probably would take over their own roster right now.
But I still think the quarterback is a major question mark.
And when I say a major question mark, he's good.
I know that I can compete with him.
But ultimately, if I'm going to give a guy $35 million,
and basically guarantee four years of that,
because that adds up to about 110, 120 in that range,
maybe three and a half years.
But, I mean, I'm committing to him.
I'm getting married to the guy.
I got to know and feel good when I lay my head at night.
You know, I got a top five or six quarterback.
I don't like doing what the Minnesota Vikings did,
giving a guy $85 million.
And then extending him another $60 million.
When I know, you know, I get he won a playoff game last year,
but let's call a spade of spate.
I'm never walking into a game against a top flight quarterback and feeling I got the better guy because that's not the case.
Now maybe Dak takes a huge step this year and him and McCarthy mesh and then you go, you know what?
And maybe they win a couple of playoff games and you go, this guy kind of like Russell Wilson where early on those first three or four years, you know, there were like Colin Coward was always out ahead of it and there was a select few of people, but there were a lot of people on the other side going he wasn't good enough.
And ever since that, the second four or five years, he took off like a rocket chip.
And Dak could easily be that type player.
But the one thing that Russell always had was the same freaking head coach.
And the one thing Dak now has a new head coach,
who's had a lot of success with another really talented quarterback.
So one thing you'd say with Mike McCarthy, once he gets his hands on Dak Prescott,
once he works with that Prescott, once he runs an offense with Dak Prescott,
he'll have a pretty good idea because he's got a pretty good basis.
Now, no one thinks Dak Prescott's going to be as good at Aaron Rogers,
but if he goes, well, he can do some of these things.
We won like this in the playoffs with doing this.
this guy can do that, I feel comfortable paying him.
Because you don't hire Mike McCarthy, even the Cowboys that are run by the owner,
if you're not going to give him a lot of sway and a lot of pull when it comes to the guy
throwing the football.
And he's an offensive mind, he's technically an offensive coordinator.
Now, calling the plays, technically, Kellan Moore, you know, who knows,
Cowboys kind of a weird deal that way.
But it's Mike's baby.
Let's just be real.
And I would play this year out.
Now, I've said before, if you really wanted to sign him long term, I'd have no issue rescinding the franchise tag.
You'd have had to do this before he signed it.
And going back, what is your market?
But the Cowboys clearly respect this guy a lot.
That's a low-level move.
It just is, even though it is the right business move, when you have a lot of respect for a guy,
when you believe in the person, when he's done right by you, you don't do business that way.
So, well, it would be just in a vacuum, dollars and $1.6.000.
sense the right business move because I don't think anyone would even come close to compete to
some of the offers that clearly the Cowboys have already made.
They're going to ride this out.
I would just ride out this season.
I would not extend him unless he would sign some really team friendly deal, which it sure
as hell feels like he's in no business to do, and that's his prerogative.
But I also think it's the Cowboys prerogative.
Like, there's no reason to put a ring on it.
Just let it play out a little bit.
Let your new guy, who essentially, for as much as Jerry, we see Jerry,
Jerry talks, I love Jerry Jones.
He's a legend.
He ain't coaching the team.
Jerry Jones has as much power on game day as mere you.
Once the game kicks off, he does nothing.
He sits there, he drinks a Diet Coke, he eats some popcorn,
no different than you sitting at your house,
eating some snacks, watching the Cowboy game.
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just watching whatever your team is, you know,
the owner has no pull.
Now, he has more pull during the week.
He can say, we've got to cut this guy or whatever.
But when it comes to DAC and when it comes to the offense,
Jerry ain't doing a damn thing.
So Mike McCarthy is the one,
a coach told me this one time.
He said it's so easy for you guys and personnel to go,
yeah, this guy's a bad character.
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Okay, let's dive into some college football.
And because in the NFL, I think until the 49ers,
who had someone, they had a Nashville, basically OTAs,
attended by a lot of players,
and someone tested positive in that really is the only situation we've seen.
Now, we've seen individual players test positive,
Vaughn Miller, I think Kareem Jackson,
I'm probably missing some,
but those were all in situations where they got it on their own training, right?
We had a situation with the 49ers,
where they got it as a group
or someone got it as a group.
We don't have any more information.
And then the NFLPA came out and highly recommended
because they can't force anyone to do it
no more of these personal workouts
until you get back to their team.
College football is a little different.
You know, in the SEC and a lot of these programs
have been together now for two or three weeks.
I mean, I remember I fall Mac Brown on Twitter,
saw a picture, I think, like three weeks ago at North Carolina.
he's like back in the office with all the boys.
It's all the pictures of the players coming in.
And we've seen several incidents from LSU, I think had like 25 players,
Clemson a bunch, Alabama Auburn's had some.
I think Iowa today had nine.
I think the best number I saw was Notre Dame had 90 players tested.
They only had one guy.
And every time I see it, I'm not shocked to see the reaction
because the media in general is very, very emotional.
They're all emotion.
I mean, if we followed them now, I mean, listen, I technically in the media, I just always consider myself more of a hybrid.
I follow a lot of these guys and I just see their Twitter feeds.
It's all emotion.
And I get it.
They just can't control it.
But I don't freak out when I see this because I'm not a Corona expert.
I'm not a doctor.
I don't know anything.
Everything I read and everything I see changes by the day.
I think it's pretty simple that none of us know.
And I get a lot of DMs that hit me up or people.
People tweeting at me like,
middle golf, are you getting scared?
Football's not going to happen.
I don't know.
I don't control any of it.
I've said from the jump,
the NFL will do everything in their power to play.
And it's strictly because of one thing, money.
And that benefits the players too.
They are in bed together.
They are revenue sharing partners.
So for every dollar, the players get 47% of football-related revenue.
It's a pretty good deal, right?
If you're making a billion dollars, it's $470 million.
If it's $2 billion, you do the math, right?
And they have financial reasons to do it.
College is the same thing.
While they're not technically paying the players on the books, we know, for a fact, I say this all the time.
We have factual information from the feds.
These players get paid under the table.
So I hate it when we say players don't get paid because in a lot of these conferences,
especially the South, we know they are.
Again, I have no issue with it.
I don't mind it at all.
It's capitalism.
Free market.
The NCAA is not the law.
It doesn't bother me at all.
But I can never pretend these guys aren't getting cash and benefits.
Now, could they do more in the likeness?
For sure.
That's another conversation.
But here's a reality.
Because all these players at LSU had like, I think, 23 or 30 or some ungodly.
Maybe they were 30 and Clemson was 23.
I think there was a breakout in a nightclub in LSU.
Where I live in California, we have been slower to open things up.
Like right now, we can't, in certain, in the Bay Area in L.A., you can't eat inside.
Now, if you go to Napa, if you go to Sacramento, you can't eat inside.
But the majority, I think about 8 million people in the Bay Area, you know, obviously like 20 million people down south.
Large percentage of people cannot eat inside.
So we're limited to what we can do.
But I do know this.
I have a younger brother who's 30 years old.
I know a lot of people, I'm hell, a lot of people that you listening are in your 20s.
I interact with a lot of you.
Young people do not care.
They don't.
and I don't technically blame them
for not being scared of this virus.
They were told from the jump they can't be affected.
Now it doesn't mean they can't get it,
but we've seen the numbers,
the factual data,
that all the things they're more likely to die from,
like driving a car down the freeway.
So when these guys,
and I follow all these guys on Instagram,
they're not scared.
Now, personally, I'm just speaking for myself,
I'm not scared of the virus.
I'm more scared of financially the second half of the years.
The economy is going to bounce back.
Are my advertisers on the other podcast going to come flooding back?
My worries right now in 2020 are all financial, zero virus.
Now my mom, 74, you know, had cancer before breast cancer.
She's got to worry about it because she's in the right down the middle of the group that it severely impacts.
When you talk about these college football players who already have a crazy self,
I don't even know how to describe it, not arrogance but confidence,
think you're untouchable,
and then you're told,
yeah,
nothing's really going to happen,
and then you get back with your team
just operating in team activities.
I am not shocked to see a lot of these guys,
a lot of these programs,
have a lot of guys test positive.
Because if you think that everywhere they go,
they're social distancing and wearing masks,
you're just crazy.
You're ignorant.
You're just wrong.
And they're not going to start.
They just aren't.
You know, so I think college football,
where in the NFL,
it's going to be pretty simple.
When they tell these guys, and I think just the sport of football,
and we've talked about it before,
is very difficult to operate with these rules.
It's not even possible.
I mean, John Harbaugh, Sean McVeigh, have gone on record.
And I think John Harbaugh says it's not possible,
and Sean McVeigh says it's impossible.
I mean, you can't socially distance to play football.
They're like oxymour.
They're on the opposite side of the spectrum.
To play football is about being close, right?
The huddle, tackling.
What do you, what do defensive coordinators
tell their defensive players.
Group tackle, gang tackle, run to the football, pile-ups.
I mean, offensive defensive lines literally touch every play.
So it's very difficult.
Practice.
Just the showers, the locker room.
It's very, very hard.
But I think at least with the NFL, you can say,
listen, we have to do every precaution possible for you guys to play so you get your money.
And a lot of these guys make a lot of money.
Even the minimum guys are making $650,000.
So these guys are going to be very cognizant of it.
In college is a little more difficult.
While the booster money keeps flowing,
for these coaches to tell them,
and I'm sure they are hammering at home,
it's just harder to get a 19-year-old guy to listen to anything.
When I was 18, 19, I didn't listen to a damn thing.
Hell, I didn't really start listening probably to like three or four years ago.
It's just, you know, guys aren't as mature.
Now, some guys on the team will be,
and I've heard stories.
I was playing golf with someone.
who coached a kid in high school, who's going to Stanford,
who's actually already there.
Like, he's concerned.
So they're going to be individuals for sure.
But I think on the whole, the vast majority are not really going to think about it that much
until they're not allowed to play or until they have to quarantine.
And I think it's going to be much more difficult for college football to contain and
corral and just hammer home what they need to do to avoid it.
And to be honest,
there might be a chance that it's unavoidable.
You guys are just going to test positive all season long,
just because the way they're going to live,
the nature of the sport.
But I'm not here to pretend like I know more about, you know,
what's going on in terms of the virus than you,
like most people on Twitter.
Because I don't, because none of us do.
The information changes daily.
One day it's the worst.
One day it's getting back.
I don't know.
It literally changed.
You can read something.
On any given day, you can read it's the worst.
worst day yet or the best day yet, given what statistics they want to use to, you know,
lean their argument. And it's why I've just tried to tell me to wear a mask in a building. I'll wear a
mask in the building. But if you think I'm spending all day thinking about it at this point in time,
I'm not. Now, indirectly I am because it impacts my business. I worry about football being played
or, you know, what I'm going to talk about on a daily basis. But, and just like I can easily
put myself in your shoes, if you are nervous about it or think about it all the time, I don't blame you.
I completely understand.
But I know this, from just being around college football players for many years,
following just several college football programs on, like,
and star players on Instagram,
and even younger NFL guys, they just don't care.
I mean, they're just, and I think young people all across the country,
you saw, I saw Justin Thomas, they were in Hilton Head in South Carolina
for the PGA golf tournament, and he's like, God, you leave the course, you go around,
people are just, no one cares.
I mean, I'm out in Walnut Creek in California.
We have outdoor dining.
now people are everywhere.
People are tired of being cooped up.
They're losing their minds.
So the young people especially,
it's just, I think college football,
while there's a ton on the line, right,
if college football has not played this fall,
say bye-bye to the softball coach,
say bye-bye to all the volleyball scholarships,
say bye-bye to college baseball,
say bye-bye to the wrestling program,
say bye-bye to the swimming program.
They literally pay for everything.
Say bye-bye to the seven assistant eight athletic directors.
There's no money.
So all the money depends on them.
It's just a little more difficult to set up,
the NCAA, the money factor,
the health factor with younger people
and technically, you know, quote unquote kids,
it's definitely probably going to be a little bit of a challenge.
Okay, let's do something fun.
And let's dive in to the guys who are going to be sophomores
this upcoming season, second year players,
guys who were drafted in 2019,
I basically picked my five favorite breakout candidates.
You know, there were guys that had really good seasons.
Nick Bosa, A.J. Brown, D.K. Metcats,
Josh Jacobs.
There are players that broke out that are just good, right?
We know right away.
That doesn't happen for everyone.
Sometimes it takes time for guys to prove their worth in the league.
For every guy that just, Kyler Murray, you know, hits the ground running and you're like, damn,
some guys take a couple years.
Devante Adams took like two and a half.
So you can become a pro bowl level player and have an average first year.
Now, you can also have a good first year and Bill Buffett.
there's a different path to stardom in the NFL for the majority of players, right?
Not everyone comes at the same speed, and that's what makes sports cool.
You never know at what rate people are going to be stars.
Steph Curry was not LeBron, right?
Just year one, it wasn't like, oh, this guy's going to win multiple MVPs and, you know,
three championships and go down as probably the second-gradeest point guard ever.
Another way it works.
They almost traded Clay Thompson for Kevin Love, right?
It happens.
so we just
Russell Wilson
we're arguing over whether it was a star
like by year four
by about year six
you couldn't talk but it took
Dak Prescott we're still talking about it
so I think it takes time
but there are five guys to me
that really jumped out
and I talk some people around the league
players a couple of these guys
I like coming out a couple of these guys
I didn't know that much about
and let's start at five
Jonathan Abram
the safety from Mississippi State
the Raiders took last year in the first
round. And he made it through about half a game last year. Now, my concerns with him coming out of
college, because people I know in the NFL liked him a lot. Big hitter. If you look, I think his last year
at Mississippi State, they played Iowa in the ball game. Fant Hawkinson, I had scouting director
tell me, check out that game tape. He's locking those two guys down. So because there were some
concerns, he wasn't a great cover guy, more than a hitter. And I had new people in the league that
thought he would transition very well to become a cover safety.
You know, a hybrid, right?
A physical player that can cover.
I know Jim Nagy that runs the senior ball,
longtime NFL scout loves him.
And he made it through half a game because he had a huge hit
in their opening game in 2019 against Denver Broncos,
tore his labor him out for the season.
But people think that I know think highly of them.
I know John Gruden and Mike Mayock think highly of him.
There's going to be a lot of pressure on him.
He's going to be immediately one of the more talented.
talented defensive players.
He was this year,
will be again next year.
And I think they've surrounded him with a little more help.
The key is staying healthy.
He's a guy that wants to play like Cam Chancellor.
And that's, to me, my big red flag on him.
He just has to adapt.
Now, great players adapt.
You know, you can't.
Headhunt might be strong,
but you have to hit under control of 2020.
This isn't 98, which, don't get me wrong,
I love 98.
I love big hits.
And if this was old school, John A.
would be just knocking, K-O.
In people every game.
He can't do that.
So he's just going to have to, but the talent is there.
He was a first round pick for a reason.
The several teams that I've talked to either had him in the first
or high in the second round on their draft board.
I'd expect if he can stay healthy for him to have a really good season.
Number four, the 49ers just lost Debo Samuel to a Jones fracture.
Anytime there is a name with an injury, Jones Fracture, Tommy John,
I read Flaggett.
Never good.
Last year they had a player, Trent Taylor, who got the Jones Tractor, missed the entire season.
Now, Debo claims we'll be back in 10 weeks.
Who knows?
I got a red flag.
I hope he comes back healthy, but you never know.
Jalen Hurd, a guy that the 49ers took last year in the third round.
I went to practice last year in the spring and in training camp.
This guy is enormous.
He played running back at Tennessee.
He's like 6.3.5, 6.4.
Transferred to Baylor became a wide receiver.
Kyle Shanahan loves him.
He's like a hybrid.
They can put him in the backfield.
He can play a little tight end.
They can put him in the slot.
He got hurt last year.
Kind of like Jonathan Abram.
I'm betting on a guy staying healthy.
Had a fracture in his back, missed the entire season.
Did have a preseason game where he trucked like three people, had a touchdown,
and everyone thought this guy was going to play a major role.
And then he never played a regular season game.
Well, now that Debo's already out, their second best wide receiver now without Debo
is going to be a rookie from Arizona State, Brandon Iyuk,
who's a junior college transfer.
really has had one good season.
So I think, besides Kittle, there is going to be a lot of action for this guy.
Major mismatch, offensive genius as the play caller.
They have, you know, they had Trent Williams, their offensive line solid,
they got Jimmy Garoppel.
They have a running game.
I think Jalen Hurd, you can look up and you go, damn,
49ers, one of the best teams in the NFC, that guy caught 50, 60 balls.
I'd keep it high on Jalen Hurd, especially for you fantasy guys that might be drafting people late.
Number three, I had, I know a bunch of people with the bear,
they were raving to me last year
about this rookie safety for the Green Bay Packers.
I didn't know that much about him.
They drafted him in the first round,
Darnell Savage Jr.
Watch him a bunch this year,
he's going to be a really good player.
Hot take, he's got a very good chance
to be a top five safety in the next two years.
Very, very talented.
He plays for the Packers.
They're clearly, they have a bunch of talent,
especially in that defensive backfield
with the corners.
You know, I just think
when you look around the safeties around the league,
whether it's Jamal Adams
Who are the really great safeties right now in the NFL?
I think this guy has a chance to take a huge,
a Derwin James.
You know, Isaiah Simmons is a young guy
that was just drafted really high
who's kind of like the hybrid.
I think this guy has a chance to be kind of the ultimate combo
of being a physical hitter.
He'll throw his nose in there.
He ain't afraid,
which is something I always love in a safety.
It's what Jonathan Abram has.
You've got to be a little crazy
because you're playing in space,
people moving at rapid speed.
I like guys that will lay
the wood.
They can, are athletic enough in 2020, that can find themselves in positions where they're
not going to get flagged all the time.
And then this guy can also play the ball.
So he had two picks last year.
I'd expect maybe that number to double this year.
I think Darnell Savage Jr. has a chance to have a huge season for the Green Bay Packers.
Number two.
Jeffrey Simmons, the defensive tackle hybrid guy that the Tennessee Titans took in the first
round last year.
There's a chance that this guy, if he had not torn his ACL before the draft, would have gone,
there are some people talking like top five, probably a top six or seven lock.
They got them.
I think it was pick 19.
Jarrell Casey, who they cut this year.
Jarel Casey has made several pro bowlers, pro bowlers, is a really good player who's been
one of the stalwart defensive linemen in the league for the last handful of years.
they just cut.
And the reason is
Jeffrey Freaking Simmons.
He had seven starts last year, two sacks,
coming back from that injury.
He is massive.
He is super athletic.
I mean, he's got Vrable.
He's got kind of a defensive culture.
I had a buddy tell me in the league
like over the weekend.
You could look up and Jeffrey Simmons could be a star.
This guy of this group might have the highest upside.
Like there is a chance.
He's a top two or three D linemen in like three years.
All of a sudden he's like
JJ Watt
That's how talented this guy is
Now a lot of people don't know about him
Mississippi State gets injured
Didn't play that much last year in terms of impact
Only played less than half the season
Despite being on a team that went really far
I'm telling you
When you're watching the Titans
Keep an eye on Jeffrey Simmons
And the number one breakout star potential
This one was pretty easy for me
Drew Locke
I know Greg Cosell
Who just watches as much quarterback
film as anyone hell
besides the maybe NFL coaches
loves this guy.
His talent is undisputable.
Indisputable?
It's not arguable.
He's got a big time arm.
Now, I didn't really watch him that much in Missouri.
Full disclosure, I'm not spending too much time on Saturdays
watching Missouri football.
People I talked to said that the arm strength was there.
It was just about corraling,
just like any young quarterback who, you know,
has the physical attributes.
you want to then translate, become an accurate player,
become a guy who understands the offense,
a guy that can lead the team.
A lot comes with playing quarterback.
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you're an underdog a lot of the weeks, right?
You are consistently playing teams that are better than you.
So there is a lot of unknown.
Like, what would he do with better talent?
how would he have been if he was the Bama quarterback or USC quarterback and had the proper talent around him?
You never know.
And once you get to the NFL, especially given the baseline of talent that his team now has,
you'd go, well, his offense is pretty loaded, right?
They get Pat Schumer as offensive coordinator who, terrible head coach, really good offensive coordinator.
They have a defensive head coach who is going to play really good defense.
I will be shocked, shocked if the Denver Broncos, Vic Fangio, Bradley Chubb, Vaughn Miller are not.
a top 10 defense this year.
They made strides the year went on without Bradley Chubb.
He's back full go.
They're going to be good on defense.
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They signed Melvin Gordon.
They drafted Noah Fant last year in the first round.
I think who had 40 catches as a rookie.
They have Philip Lindsay.
They draft KJ Hamler, kind of the speed demon, to spread the offense.
Drew Locke had, he only made five starts last year.
He threw seven touchdowns and three picks.
But just from the eye test of the little bit I watched,
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And I think a fair comp, and I don't know how tough he's going to be in the pocket.
You never know, you've got to play a lot of games.
Will you stand in there and make throws?
But just physical attributes, I think he has a lot of comparisons to Derek Carr
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And those first couple years for Derek before the Raiders have kind of been
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I mean, his second year was kind of his breakout season.
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The division is really good.
I think the Raiders are going to be a lot better.
The Chiefs are the Super Bowl champions, and the Chargers defense is stacked, right?
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Hell, they drafted the Oklahoma linebacker.
Their defense is going to be excellent.
Gus Bradley's a defensive coordinator.
It's not an easy division.
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I think they're already, you know, Collins's already picking them.
They're already kind of a sexy team out there.
I like them a lot.
I think they should make a wild card because they went 7 to 9 last year after a terrible start
and Joe Flacco playing terrible.
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Okay, let's get into the Middlekopf mailbag at John Middlecoff, Insta.
It's where you guys get to ask questions,
and we answer them right here on the podcast.
Also, like I mentioned earlier, leave your reviews if you like to show greatly appreciate it.
What are your thoughts on Josh Gordon signing with the 49ers now that Debo has a broken foot?
In my memory serves, Josh's record-breaking season happened with Kyle as the offensive coordinator for the Browns.
Just some random thoughts I'm having while cutting hay.
Keep up the good work.
If you're really cutting hay, you're a grinder.
I don't know much about personally the relationship.
I'd have to, maybe you're right in 2014, that was Josh Gordon's breakout season.
I'll type it as as I'm talking.
I don't see that.
I mean, last year, Seattle had him for a little bit.
He couldn't last because he got in trouble.
Obviously, the Patriots cut him.
The 2004, no, it was 2013, was his, God.
87 catches, 1,600 yards, nine touchdowns.
And then 2018, he had 41 catches.
Yeah, I think that ship sailed.
I don't, I'm not an expert on the drug policy in terms of the testing and the changes, everything that's been made.
But I don't see the 49ers doing that.
They have Trent Taylor on their team.
They have Jalen Hurd on their team.
They draft Brandon Ayuk.
They have George Kittle.
They have a million running backs.
Kyle, I just believe in his heel able to scheme guys open.
I don't see that.
Who are the top five most untradable non-quarterbacks in the NFL?
By the way, love the pod, and I'm a future Cal Poly Mustang.
Love it, young guy.
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Jealous.
Top five most untradable players.
Okay, I would say, let me think for a split second.
You would think defense.
You know, Cleo Mac after the year, I don't know if he's untradable anymore.
Aaron Donald, would they trade them for like four first rounders?
Would anyone trade four first rounders?
Are there really that many untradable, non-quarterbacks?
You know, I don't think the 49ers would trade George Kittle.
You know, O'Dell Beckham would get, he could get trade.
Maybe another, who's another sweet pass rusher?
Nick Bosa?
Trying to think of young guys, Joey Bosa.
Do the Cowboys, Texans not really?
Saints. I mean, Michael Thomas, but would you trade Michael Thomas for a couple of first rounders?
I mean, to make you think.
I got news for you.
There's not real, when it comes to non-quarterbacks, if you give me the right offer, we're talking.
I love George Kittle.
He's probably my favorite non-quarterback in the league right now.
He's a badass.
I was watching Shark Tank on Friday night, and this chick was freaking out about these bags she had,
and she was yelling at everyone.
And she eventually, you know, the four other panelists were like,
I'm out, I'm out, I'm out, I'm out.
And she's like, I want Mark Cuban buy it.
And Mark Cuban's like, make me an offer.
She said, what do you want?
He said, no, you make me an offer.
So if I had Aaron Donald, if I had Cleo Mac, if I had George Kittle,
if I had Michael Thomas, if I had any of these dudes,
make me an offer.
You know, this is not basketball where it's LeBron James.
Because LeBron James is the quarterback in the NFL.
John, I know your background is in football in the podcast I listen to most right next to part in my take.
I know you're somewhat of a barstool guy.
You dive into other sports every now and then, but I'd say 90% of what you talk about is football.
Have you ever thought about expanding your podcast to cover more than just one sport?
Well, my podcast I do with Haberman and Middletoff.
Now, we talk more maybe Bay Area with the Warriors, but we talk baseball.
We talk everything.
You know, it was basically we had a radio show or we did talk a lot of PJ Tor golf.
we talk about it all.
On this podcast, it's just easier to just focus in the NFL and based on the numbers.
I mean, football's king.
Even on the other podcast, we talk football the most because it's by far the most popular.
Now, I'm a huge sports guy.
I'm a rare 35-year-old that watches way too much baseball.
I love the PGA tour.
While I talk some shit about the NBA, I watch an ungodly amount of the NBA.
I love basketball.
So, I mean, between those four sports, you know, football,
pays my bills and it's just even when I was in radio we talk about football more so I yeah I mean
I tweet and talk my do my periscopes but it's just it's more fun to do topics about football
because more people react you can do a baseball a top five baseball players I tweeted that out right now
I get two people interact I did top five you know quarterbacks under 30 I'd have 500 replies
it's just people just are more passionate right now about football and basketball
even, you know, I'm a sucker about the PGA Tour.
Just a picture of a guy cooking steaks for Father's Day.
That sounds cool.
Happy Father's Day to all the fathers listening.
Do you feel the West Coast offense could really take off over the coming years?
If you look at Philly, for example, with two tight ends and Ertz and Goddard, you see Goddard got knocked out,
a great running back in Miles Sanders, I wouldn't say great yet, but talented, who should improve
after his rookie season and two burner wide receivers in Rager and Deshawn.
Tide ends are extremely undervalued position, as you have talked about with George Kittles' contract talks
and are much cheaper usually than most slot receivers,
thus allowing money to be spent on the O-line or elsewhere on the team.
What do you think?
Yeah, I mean, I think everything now in 2020 is a hybrid offense.
You know, the RPO is such a big part of the game.
All these quarterbacks are moving.
If you have two tight ends, you'd be stupid not to put them on the field.
The Niners would have no problem putting two tight ends on the field.
Their problem is they don't really have a good second tight end.
Now, they play a lot of, you know, situations in 21 personnel
with two running backs and one tight end, right?
Because they have Kyle Uscheck, who is kind of unique.
Is he a running back?
Nah, I mean, he's kind of more of like a hybrid tight end,
but he also is a full black lead blocker.
He's just the ultimate Swiss Army knife.
I think it's just all about your personnel.
I would not have a quote-unquote offense.
I would just have, I would like, you know,
obviously you'd want a staple of your offense,
but I would want to be able to deliver plays.
An offensive coordinator told me this last year.
What makes the best offensive coordinators great
is they're not worried about balance,
run, pass.
They're worried about getting their playmakers the ball.
It's what Andy Reid does a great job of, right?
He gets Kelsey and Tyree Kill and Sammy Watkins the football.
Kyle Shanahan does a really good job of this.
Now, he even spreads it out.
I'd argue sometimes too much, but you can't complain with the results.
That I don't, the quote-unquote, what kind of offense?
To defense, to me, it matters more.
Because your base personnel gives your gap assignment,
so who's going to make a tackle or has what gap.
in football, whether I've got two tight-ins on the field,
no tight-ins on the field,
well, if I got four street-wide receivers
or multiple sweet running backs,
like, I don't blame the Baltimore Ravens
for doing what they're doing.
That's their personnel.
To me, it's just based on your personnel.
Now, if you wanted to take even a step back,
should you be looking for that second tight-end,
ideally, yes, you would like two Kelsey's.
You would like two kittles.
You would like a gronk and a, you know, again, bad guy,
you know, murderer, but Aaron,
That's what ideally you'd want.
It's just easier said than done.
After hearing your convincing take on Deschambeau Saturday, I just see, I'll talk other sports,
I decided to lay some bones on his 19 to 1 odds.
Although he came up a few shots short, it made Sunday much more compelling for a novice gambler like myself.
My question is, would you ever consider doing a middle cough money bag or something of the sort
each week in addition to the mailbag?
Something that gives us all your juicy lines in golf, major league baseball, and the NFL.
Whatever really.
Appreciate it.
Well, I'll tell you this.
Gambling on football is by far the best, and we will clearly incorporate more gambling this fall.
I love gambling on football.
In my experience, March Madness is really fun.
But it's more just the event than you feel that great about your picks.
Now, you can take the advice of the Jay Billis's of the Doug Gottlieves and the 12-5.
and feel pretty good.
But more and more now than ever,
we don't watch as much college basketball.
And I watch sports for a living,
I don't even watch that much.
To me, my second favorite sport to gamble on,
the NBA is not easy anymore.
Unless you're going to bet on playoff series,
and the last couple of years I've bet against Russell Westbrook
in the first round and got plus money.
But a regular season game in the NBA,
guys don't try, guys sit out, it's impossible.
I used to love gambling on the NBA
because I used to back when Kevin Durant was on the Thunder,
I would bet a lot of team overs.
You know, they would be like over under 110 points for the Thunder.
And they would score so many points.
It was awesome.
I loved it.
And bet Lakers back when like Kobe's last couple years, their defense was awful,
the over under in the game.
But it's, to me, the NBA has become much more difficult to gamble.
I don't gamble it anymore.
Football and golf.
Love gambling and golf.
Now, golf is more difficult because, like, I love Bryson D. Chambot.
And I still do.
I played Harding Park.
It's where the PGA championship is going to be in August.
And it's not that long of a course.
And the fairways are really tight.
And the rough is ungodly.
I lost like five balls.
And you just, you can't find the ball if you don't hit the fairway.
And you're not going to hit that many fairways because the fairways got cut like by 60%.
Well, Bryson is going to be 40 yards past everybody.
And he has the power to get out of the rough.
So last I checked, did Bryson, depending on where you look,
was like 25 to 1 to win the PGA championship.
Now, again, betting on individuals to win golf tournaments is difficult.
But there are a lot of fun bets wherever you gamble.
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Gorsha accusing Kelly of sleeping with a merry man.
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from fighting Drew. Pinky has financial issues.
I like the bougie style of Housewives show.
I think it looks like it's going to be interesting.
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Do you think there's a legitimate chance the NFL season gets canceled? I dismiss the idea at first
personally, but I'm starting to see it become more and more topic lately. Keep up the good work.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
I think they will do everything humanly possible to play.
I've said it's, and I keep quoting these guys,
it's going to be hard for the protocols to work,
it's going to be hard to practice football
and not have guys get corona.
I think guys are going to get corona.
A lot of these teams have older coaches.
It's going to be a challenge.
Someone that desperately wants sports to come back.
I'm actually watching the NASCAR race behind me right now,
but it's going to be an uphill battle.
but they will, all their chips are in the middle of the table.
They have 12, 13, 14, whatever, billion reasons to get this thing to play.
If that means pushing it back a couple of months, I don't know.
I'm not a doctor.
I'm not, I'm just giving my opinion.
And my opinion on this, I don't feel, listen, I have no problem giving opinions.
I just don't know.
Like, I, back to, I don't have really corona takes.
Tell me to wear a mask in your restaurant, I wear a mask.
If you expect me to, like, scream about it all day when I'm at my condo or going on a walk,
like, that ain't happening.
I'm not a fear porn daily freak out guy.
I also respect anyone who is.
I get it.
You right?
I mean, any day you can read an article
that feels like the year's going to end.
I'm not taking that outlook.
Just because I read a lot of articles in the other,
or at least headlines.
I don't consume that much of Corona stuff anymore.
I refuse.
Because out of my control,
I don't even believe anyone on either side.
I don't want anyone to die.
No one wants Grandpa to die.
But I'll social distance,
if I don't know you or whatever.
But I'm also living in my life.
I've played golf probably four times the last couple weeks.
I've gone different places to play golf.
I don't spend that much time thinking about it.
And I think a lot of players, and I DMed with a couple,
they're not that freaked out either.
The players are not because most people in the 20 to 30-year-old age range
aren't consumed with it, beside the media,
who just is consumed with it.
So I guess it's a roundabout way of saying,
I just don't know.
But yeah, I mean, every once in a while,
if I spend too much on Twitter, I get a little freaked out.
Wanted to get your thoughts on what sort of compensation you'd be looking for if you were Joe Douglas shoes when it comes to Jamal Adams.
Obviously, he has a list, but as you've pointed out in the past, the NFL doesn't operate the same as the NBA.
No, they don't.
The Jets will not hold on to Adams because the Jags were Bengals called instead of the Cowboys or Ravens.
Dealing him to a crappier team would likely result in the higher pick.
I was thinking maybe two second rounders or a second and third is realistic.
However, if a team like the Cowboys calls, would you rather ask the Cowboys for a second or third and Gallop
since they are likely to be a good pick
so their pick will end up being low.
Also, they drafted Lamb, signed Cooper for Big Bucks.
You have a bunch of other players to pay Gallup.
Not a terrible idea.
I like where you're looking at here.
I think if you were open to trading Jamal Adams,
getting a second round pick
and a legitimate player is not a bad idea.
I think so often we love trading good players for a first round pick.
But what if you got a second round pick
and a guy who immediately starts on your team?
Michael Gallup's good.
every time I watched the Cowboys, I went,
listen, Michael Gallup's not as good as Mark Cooper,
but he's not some scrub.
I know he got banged up last year,
but I took him a lot in daily fantasy,
and he always produced.
I was actually really impressed with him.
So I think that would be a more than fair ass.
Let's see Michael Gallup last year.
I know he was banged up.
He had 66 catches for 1,100 yards, six touchdowns.
Trust of me, the Jets.
Would I do Jamal Adams for a second round pick
and Michael Gallup, I would strongly think about that.
I really would.
Now, Michael Gallup's going into his third year,
so he's got to get paid after this year,
but he's not going to be that expensive.
I like that type deal.
Now, if you're going to get a first-round pick from a team,
then that'd be hard to pass up.
But if they're all second-rounders,
would I rather have the Cowboy second-rounder and Michael Gallup
than the Bengal second-rounder, for sure?
God, we get some good ideas here.
That's some high-level thinking there.
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Do you think the 49ers have one more big move up their sleeve this offseason?
I don't.
No.
They don't have any picks to trade.
They don't have any more players to trade.
I would not really expect them to do much.
New listener from Down in New Zealand, big fan of the NBA, NFL, and Colin.
Heard you answering fans last week and brought up the question about the rugby league.
It's completely different set of rules from the rugby union.
In some aspects, it's similar to American football, except,
you can't throw it forward down the field
and you only have a single team of 13 on the field
who attack and defend.
You have a six tackle set
before you have to kick the ball to the opposition.
Bloody good sport.
I love bloody.
That's a great cuss word over across the pond.
Good sport to watch and one of the only ones at the moment with the virus.
Anywho, just letting you know I'm a big fan
you have a listener's way down here in New Zealand.
I went to New Zealand when I was 13.
When I was growing up, my dad's dad, who was a professor at Cal, was a big fly fisherman.
He used to take my dad every year for like 30 years to New Zealand.
They'd go for like three or four weeks.
When I was 13, my dad was like, why don't you come?
I'm not a huge fisherman, but I went out there, stayed with him for a couple weeks.
It was badass.
I remember eating this ice cream called Hokie Pokey.
We got helicoptered back and fished.
We played a little golf.
We went to, I told my dad, maybe I was 12 because I told him bungee jumping.
I'm pretty sure was invented in New Zealand.
And the place where it first started was this crazy, like, a bridge that I think is like a 500-foot fall.
And they can time it where you touch the river that you jump into.
I'm like, Dad, I'll tell him I'm 13.
Drive me there, and I will jump off this bridge.
So he drives me there, and we park, and we go out to watch.
And I remember walking out and looking, I'm like, oh, my God, that is so freaking high.
So we walk in to go get fitted.
He's like, he wants to do a bungee jump.
And the guy's like, how old are you?
You had to be 13.
I was like, I'm 12.
I'm 12.
And they're like, okay, you can't do it.
And I get out of it.
My dad's like, oh my God, you're such a wuss.
Like, yeah, dad, no freaking way I'm jumping off that thing.
But that's my lasting memory of New Zealand.
So question for the show.
I'm from the Pacific Northwest and been a hawks fan since I can remember.
Most analysts, journalists, and media members never give the Seahawks the respect they deserve.
Every year, all anyone can say is how they were going 7 and 9,
and then what do you know they're in the playoffs?
He said, we're in the playoffs.
True, I appreciate the fandom.
Being a Niners fan media guy, can you account for the lack of respect?
I feel like Schneider, Carol, and Russ have earned a certain amount of respect anyway.
I never picked the Seahawks to miss, so I don't know what those idiots are doing.
I do know this as someone that breaks down rosters and has a pretty good feel for what an elite team looks like.
Their roster the last couple years has not, and I think even you as a Seahawks fan will admit this,
not nearly as good as it was in 12, 13, and 14, right?
It's not as deep, not as star studded.
Now, their curveball, and this is why you can't dismiss them,
they have either the best or second best quarterback in the world in Russell Wilson.
And he's a magician.
Unlike Mahomes, who doesn't, I mean, while he kind of indirectly does,
but they have so much help, Russell has to carry the team.
Their defense isn't as good.
They don't have as many Pro Bowl guys on defense.
He's got to be a star.
And he is a star.
He can have these games.
To me, Russell Wilson's a lot like Steph Curry.
He can have these games where he looks terrible for three quarters.
And then all of a sudden he flips a switch and throws three touchdowns in the fourth quarter
and just rips your heart out and does just Houdini stuff.
So I really think it's just Russell Wilson.
He is one of the most incredible quarterbacks we've ever seen.
and for them to be whatever they won, 11 games last year,
and being within a half inch, a half inch of sweeping the Niners
and being the second seed would have been one of the most incredible accomplishments
given their roster I've ever seen.
Because that team was not as talented as their record,
but their quarterback is more talented their record.
So I think it's that simple because player for player,
their roster leaves some to be desired.
Now, you could argue it's a little better.
Now they got D.K., who's a really good player.
we'll see if they get clowny back.
But, man, yeah, I think what that franchise has accomplished these last two, you know, decade,
really the second half of the decade has been more impressive.
Now, they haven't won a Super Bowl or even gotten back,
but being able to sustain, maintain, and win all these games that no team pulls more games out of their ass than Seattle, Cocks.
And I say that as a compliment.
But how often are we sitting on our couch on Sunday,
especially when they kick like a 10 a.m. kick off, you know,
they're playing like the panthers or the jets or something and they'll be down like you know 17 to 10
just playing like crap then all of a sudden two straight russell wilson drives bang bang boom and it's
24 to 17 they win like they have so many games like that and that that's just their culture they're
they're winners they all they do is win appreciate everyone listening uh enjoy the week and uh i guess it's
summer it's kind of a weird summer but summer's here so enjoy your summer and uh
I'll talk to you a little bit later.
Adios.
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