The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 and Out - Mahomes/Allen Instant Classic, McVay/Shanahan NFC Championship Showdown, Rodgers Devastating L

Episode Date: January 24, 2022

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Not going to lie, I had to delete a couple beers because my heart rate from the weekend couldn't take it. I was too amped up. I needed to relax. It was, that's as good of a weekend as you'll ever see in the history of sports. Like, I'm not even trying to over it. react here, but that was awesome. You know, as someone that's 37 years old now and who've really been working in football or talking about football for well over a decade now, and you become kind of numb to it, and I say it all the time, like, I still am a fan of the game. I mean, I die-hard, Nider fan growing up, but once you're in it, you kind of get numb to

it, I felt like a 10-year-old all weekend. Well, except for the first half of the Titans game where I might have took a little nap through. That was a little different, I'd say, than the next. three games. But we'll dive into that last. Obviously, you know, what we just witnessed, when I say we just witnessed, you know, if you're listening to this on Monday, that final Bill's Chiefs game, we'll dive into that. A couple of thoughts on McVeigh-Shannahan, LaFleur and Rogers, that's a pretty devastating loss and some thoughts on Joe Burrow. Now, listen, there are a lot of stuff going on right now. Some rumors of Tom Brady retiring.

Sean Payton, I might quit. We'll get into all that probably on Tuesday's podcast. We're going to kind of live in the present and just react to what we just witnessed. And you know me. I'm not going to let anything slide that is good to talk about. But as of this podcast, three and out feed, subscribe, share it with your friends. You guys know the drill. Leave a review if you could.

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We will get to it. But that game we just witnessed the, let's face it, the AFC championship game, Kansas City against Buffalo. Let's start with the Chiefs. And I remember, was it a Thursday night game, Chiefs against the Chargers, where Travis Kelsey had the walk-off touchdown.

And listen, I'm, I've been watching football now pretty consistently that I can vividly remember for 25 years since the 94 49ers won the Super Bowl till at present. And I'm pretty confident. And I know, listen, I'm not a cowboy hater. Aikman, Emmett, and Michael Irvin, I got, I think those guys, I mean, clearly, they're Hall of Famers. Troy Aikman was not as good as Patrick Mahomes.

We have never seen a player like Travis Kel. or like, obviously like Travis Kelsey, I mean, his statistically, he's going to shatter some records, but like Tyree Kill. Tyree Kill is just in a completely different level. Like he's an unstoppable force in the open field. That trio, especially when you combine them with the head coach, I think it's the greatest offensive trio we've ever seen.

And they keep building on this. You're talking about a group now that's going to their fourth straight AFC championship. and they're two and one in those games, and it took Tom Brady and Bill Belichick beating them in overtime, or they would have gone to three state straight Super Bowls. As of recording this, I haven't even seen the line against the Bengals breaking news. I'm sure they're heavily favored. Seven, seven and a half, eight.

And I know they lost this season, but they're going to be the heavy favorites, not just to win this game, but to win the Super Bowl. Whoever wins between the Rams and the 49ers, if the Chiefs win this game, and I got news for you, they're going to, sorry Bengals fans, they're going to be favored in the Super Bowl. And it's because of those three guys, 15, 10, and 87. Absolute ass-kicking championship winner, all-time great players. Mahomes and those two, I mean, those two combined for like 20 catches, 250 yards,

multiple touchdowns, but it's not, the box score doesn't do them justice. It's when they're down, it's when their backs against the wall. They make incredible plays. They make championship level plays. And all these guys, even Kelsey, who's the oldest of the bunch, who's now on his third big contract, who's made a ton of money, none of that shit matters when they're in the arena. Starts with their quarterback who's just completely under control. It's just awesome to watch.

It is, we're watching these three guys offensively with their elite Hall of Fame offensive coach just do spectacular things over and over year in year out it's fun to watch i felt like a little kid watching that game now a huge part of that was also the buffalo bills and josh allen who you know he was a polarizing player for a long time these last two years like there is no more debate he's one of the best players in the NFL i think i said it in the last couple weeks i it sucks that i was born in the 80s. Because now, I mean, I don't want to be any older, but if I was born in the 70s, if I was, instead of born in 1984, if I was born in 1974, if I was born in 1974, I would have got to witness and taken 80 sports. And one thing I grew up, because if you grew up in Northern California, my dad,

he would have loved the Niners game. I mean, it's just, it kind of made me emotional this morning thinking like, my dad would have loved watching the Niners win that game. But like, one thing that he always had was talking about Montana, talking about John Elway, talking about Dan Marino. And you just hammer home, like those guys, how sweet they were. You can watch it on YouTube, but it's never the same. If you're listening to this and you're 20 years old, like you can watch the documentary on Michael Jordan,

but it's not the same as watching him. I watched him live and I'll fucking, to my grave, we'll go, that's the best basketball player ever. He'll never be surpassed. I feel pretty confident on that. And to my dad's dying days, he thought Joe Montana was better than Tom Brady. And I always argued.

Hell, I thought Steve Young was better than Joe. Montana. And I'm actually watching this Montana Doc. I realized where he was coming from. Now, I would take Brady over Montana, but I've gained a lot of respect for Montana. But you always heard these tales about Elway. This guy that was 6'4, 6.5,

who was an elite athlete and this special arm. And then there came this kid from Fireball California. They couldn't hit water from a boat when he was in college. And somehow the Buffalo Bills took him seventh overall. And they've turned this guy and he deserves

a ton of credit to into a flat out superstar. That guy, you don't need to be Bill Belichick, you don't need to be Bill Parcells, you don't need to be Andy Reid standing on the opposing sideline. That is box office. Like Mahomes, who was incredible,

we know he's box office. He's Ben Box Office. The moment he won the MVP, he's one of the greatest players we've ever seen, and he's played like four or five years as a starter. If he never played another game, he'd be a lock first ballot Hall of Famer. Well, not everyone just hits the ground running.

Some guys take a little time, and Josh did. But you watch Josh tonight, the athleticism, the ability to run, the playmaking, how calm he is, I'd go to war with that fucking guy any day of the week and ten times on Sunday. That guy is a badass, total package. And then when you hear Mitch Morse, the Bill's Center, who, if you watch the end of that game, spent extra time, he went up to Andy, went up to Kelsey, went up to Mahomes, he clearly valued his time. in Kansas City. And he was asked this week, and I think I mentioned this last week, I'm like, what the similarities in the two players were. And he said that one thing that really stood out,

he said a lot of things, right, the physical gifts, but he mentioned one thing. He said they're both really approachable. And we'll get into Aaron Rogers a little bit later. But I think that's an underrated part about being a star quarterback. Ultimately, you have to be just one of the guys. You make more money, right? Mahomes signed a 450, million dollar contract. Didn't Josh Allen this offseason get 150 million dollars guaranteed? If you just combine their money, you're talking over 600 million dollars. They are so much, have so much more money than every, than the majority of guys on their team combined. It's not even, it's not even like you can't even quantify it. Yet both of the guys, and especially Josh Allen,

like Holmes is just pretty natural at it, just feel like God, he's just one of the teammates. they are special. And I was thinking about this. When I grew up, in my generation, we grew up on Troy Aikman, Brett Favre, and Steve Young. That's what I grew up on the NFL. Fox got it, and it shot out like a rocket ship. And those guys were superstars. And I was a sucker for Steve Young, but I'll admit, Brett Fav was better.

And as Marty Mourningwig once told me, he thought Brett Fav was the best player he ever saw in those three years. He won three straight MVP's, and it was awesome. right? And it created my generation to be diehard, you know, football fans, because how big and famous and good those guys were. And then the generation a little bit younger than me got Manning and Brady. And that rivalry, I remember being in college, like, it was football porn. It was badass. And I started as a Peyton guy. I transitioned to a Tom Brady guy. And now just, I love them both. I'm glad to have witnessed their careers. And then came the Rathesburgers and Aaron Rogers and some of these guys. And every generation,

It's just got these star players. Well, I watched that game the night, and I felt like a 10-year-old kid. And I, as someone that does this for a living and doesn't want to stop anytime soon, partly because I don't know what else I could do. I don't have that many skills. There is going to be a generation of kids

that are 8, 9, 10, 11 years old. They were at their house today with their father, with their brother, with maybe some of their friends, that it hopefully weren't on YouTube that were watching that game. and falling in love with the sport of football. Because a game like that

and watching those two guys play make someone that, let's face it, I can become pretty jaded to the whole thing. I make money off this. I become numb to it. It's moments like that. It's the playoffs where I get to feel like a little kidded again and that's cool.

And sometimes I'm jealous. I know all you people listening get to be fans of a team that's true. Some of the purity left me a long time ago. I felt that watching those two guys play. It's like this is why I, love the sport of football, that there is nothing like it. And those two guys, and specifically Josh, like, we already knew Mahomes was already

anointed for Josh to get to do that in front of, I'm sure the ratings are going to be 45 million people watch that game. Like, there is no argument anymore. Josh Allen is a superstar, an absolute, you know, flat out bowler. I feel like I'm watching John Elway. I also feel like that kind of with Justin Herbert as well. Who are these guys? Where do these humans come from?

Six foot five that can run like that with that powerful of an arm on the road to do that. It was awesome, man. I mean, I'm very, very happy. I'm closer with the people in Kansas City. I'm very, very happy for Kansas City. But I'll be honest. I'm a little heartbroken is the wrong word, but I do feel for Josh Allen and Sean McDermott. Like those guys are, they got something brewing.

And I think Coach Reid would be the first to tell you that. I mean, he's been doing this for 23 years. I can't imagine, besides like Belichick and Brady, he's looked down the gun barrel against an opponent and thought, holy shit, these guys are good. And then you know what's cool about this? And I'm a big believer in the, just kind of the motto, the cream rises.

And sometimes, and I've learned this with age, it takes time. Like some people, like CJ Stroud or Bryce Young, they're at Oklahoma, or I mean, at Alabama, in Ohio State. Those guys were clearly elite. 1617. They went to Alabama, Ohio State, and they've been elite immediately.

There is no guarantee that those guys are going to continue to be elite. Now, I think they're both really good, but we see it time and time again. Like Tua, coming out of high school could have gone anywhere. Guy was elite.

And we see him in the pros, like, he's been passed. Because over time, talent, and when I say the cream rises, like sometimes it takes a little bit of time. And you look at a guy in Josh Allen who went to Wyoming and Patrick Mahomes who went to Texas Tech are the best two young quarterbacks in the NFL. Think about that. Like to me, that's part of what makes sports really cool.

And I think it has a lot of parallels to life. It is not where you start. Now, you have to be talented. You have to work hard. You have to whatever you're doing, it has to mean a lot to you. You have to be very, very invested. But those two guys, now, and again, they were, Alan was the seventh pick in the draft. Mahomi was the, I always get him and Watson mixed up. Was he the 10th or 12th? Like, they were both

top 12 picks. So it's not like people thought they were scrubs coming out of college. But they did not come from Oklahoma. They did not come from Alabama. They did not play at LSU or USC. Yet within three or four years, I mean, like I said, Mahomes is going to the Hall of Fame. Josh Allen is starting to put some peltz on the wall to develop a Hall of Fame career. He's definitely a Hall of Fame talent. That much is not even debatable. And you can go to Wyoming and go to Texas Tech. And listen, I'm a smaller school guy.

And I feel some kinship with some of the small school guys in the NFL because I didn't go to Northwestern or Syracuse or USC. I went to Cal Poly. And when I moved to Philadelphia, when I introduced myself, I told people I went to cow because people wouldn't know what cow polly is so i i take just i get a lot of joy and it excites me when i see these smaller school guys fly up the rankings and pass all these guys from premium schools then pass all these guys that have four and five stars because what you have at 18 19 20 years old as you get older no one gives a shit and the one thing the private sector and definitely the NFL, like, if you're good, you're good.

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I was thinking a lot about this because obviously Kyle Shanahan's 42 years old and Sean McVease 35. I think in the hiring cycle, you see a lot of different takes out there on television on the internet. It's like, this guy deserves this job. He's put in the time. I think one of the most overrated things in life is age. I've met a lot of morons that are 30 years old.

I've also met a lot of morons who are 66 years old. However old you are, I got news for you, is pretty irrelevant. Because some people are just truly more talented than others. Now, I will never dispute that experience matters, that reps matter. Like when Tiger Woods won his first major at whatever, 20 or 21 years old, it was a really big deal. But as time went on, we look back and we went, well, he was training like a PGA tour player from the moment he was like four or five years old.

If you've watched the documentary on him, his dad had like a Navy SEAL psychologist messaging like formulating his mind to be a killer on the golf course when he was seven, eight years old. The guy was on a completely different wavelength than everyone else. Well, when you look at Sean McVeigh and Kyle Shanahan,

Kyle Shanahan grew up in junior high in high school being the ball boy for the Eddie to Bartolo 49ers. Steve Young, Jerry Rice. Every day in practice, he went. Sean McVeigh's grandfather was the general manager for the Bill Walsh 49ers. These guys were born into football royalty. Now, just because you're born into something

does not mean anything. We have enough evidence. It doesn't mean shit. Because one, I don't know if you're going to like whatever your father or grandfather does. And two, I don't know if you're going to be any good at it. But here's what I know about Sean McVey and Kyle Shanahan. Not only do they like football, the family business, they're addicted to it.

And two, it's pretty clear in 2022, they're elite at their job. So they were born into it, massive advantage. Then they loved it and they turned out to be awesome at it. But here's the thing. Both of them, when they graduated from college, went directly into the national. Football League. So when Sean got hired at 32 years old, he had been in the league, been in the NFL for a decade. Experience matters when you like something and you're naturally good at it. You need to build reps. That is important. Part of Bill Belichick, when he got his first head

coaching job in his early 40s, he had been a coordinator forever of Parcells. He also got involved in the NFL at 1975, another guy who was born into it. And listen, I'm not saying that these guys are be Bill Belichick, but like Bill Belichick, they were born into football families, and they fucking loved it. You can't fake that. These guys are football addicts. But the age think, there are a lot of guys in the NFL, and I've been around some of them that are over 50, that might be over 60. I wouldn't hire to be, if I was in charge, they wouldn't be my position coach, let alone a coordinator. Age is irrelevant. How talented you are matter. And let's face it, a billion dollar industry, how talented you are really matters.

And these guys happen to be way more talented than the majority of their peers. That's not really debatable. Kyle Shanahan has now made a second conference championship with Jimmy fucking Garapolo. Sean McVeigh just turned Matt Stafford. And listen, I like Matt Stafford, but let's face it, his resume in Detroit was pretty questionable. Now, we could argue it was Detroit, wasn't him. But then we saw this year like, well, did he get himself over his head?

No, found him. NFC Championship. And here's the other thing. They both put all their chips in the table, in the middle of the table, on one trading for Matt Stafford. They spent two first round picks in a third. And Kyle Shanahan,

while he traded for Trey Lance, he kept Jimmy Garoppel. Because they both desperately, all they cared about was winning in 2021 and making playoff runs in the January of 2022. Well, as Brandon Staley would tell you,

he's obsessed with his process. And that sounds great. And NFL Live will probably eat it up. And some of the Twitter elites will be like, oh my God, the process. We're in a results-oriented business. Anyone listening that's in sales, that's in the majority of industries,

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You either win or you lose. Well, both of them made bold plays. Trading for Stafford and keeping Jimmy Garoppolo when you traded three first-round picks for Trey Lance to me was a bold play. I didn't like it. I said I would have gone from Trey from the jump. Well, guess what? Kyle's smarter than me.

Because it worked. And they're both in the NFC championship. So kudos to them. They're elite. They're young. They run circles around the majority of the NFL. And it shows you. They have the combination of natural talent, which is elite, experience for younger people.

And they just, this game, inject this game into my veins. I can't wait. We'll see how the cookie crumbles if I end up in attendance. Though, as someone texts me, they went to the Packer-Niner game. And they had really good seats. and this guy DM me, and he's like, I paid $300 a pop. And he was in like the 12th row. I'm like, God damn, I love the Midwest.

I paid that in Sellers' fees per ticket for the game I went to at Week 18. These tickets for the Ram Niner game are going to be outrageous. I've already seen some numbers on the L.A. Super Bowl, which I might have been wrong on that. I do think the Super Bowl is going to stay in L.A. That's going to be the most expensive ticket in the history of the NFL. But I can't wait for this game. I have nothing but respect for both these coaches.

They're doing it a little bit different ways. One guy has an elite talent. The other guy has just kind of a placeholder. And they're both just winning games. One guy went, I mean, the Vaughn Miller trade is really working out. Shanahan moved Debo to basically running back and he's carried the team for a couple months. These guys are certified badasses. So when people try to be like, oh, this guy deserves the job, he's 60 years old.

I don't care how old you are. Are you good enough? You know, with Sean McVeigh, like he's 31 years old. Do you know what turns out? Smart as hire the Rams have ever made. Kyle Shannon. Oh, you just Mike Shanahan's sudden nepotism. No, Kyle Shanahan runs circles around

whoever you think is a good coach. I'll promise you that. Let's get into the Packers and Aaron Rogers. And I said this last week. I didn't have faith that I was going to win. I sprinkled a little money on the money line. But I actually have a buddy that spent 10 grand on the money line. That's balls.

That's balls. And it worked out. That's an incredible gambling win. But I said that if they lose this game, and even I thought about, I couldn't go to bed. I went to bed last night on Saturday night at about probably almost 2 o'clock in the morning. It was just, it's one of the just most powerful games

I've ever witnessed, gambled on. I'm obviously rooting for the Niners to win that game. But even up until that punt was blocked, I was reserved, the Niners were going to lose the game. For as great of a win that was for the 49ers, and it's one of their, and there are storied history, one of the most legendary wins

in the history of the franchise, you could make the argument that is an even worse loss for the Green Bay Packers, given Aaron Rogers' contract status, his drama, Devante Adams is a free agent, just the simmering everything.

They were the number one seed. They were hosting. San Francisco had beat him three straight times in the playoffs. They were favorite. It was the biggest favorite of the weekend. I watched Matt LaFleur's press conference. I swear to God,

looks like he saw a ghost. And I understand why he looked like that. You don't shake an L like that. That's one that stays with you forever. You lost a game where Jimmy Garaplo at one point in time felt like he was going to throw for 40 yards. And I think about it all the time. I work in the streaming bit.

I'm basically in tech, right? In podcasting, in streaming. And when the Niner game ended on my other podcast, we went live right away. And it's already our biggest stream of all time and it'll easily be our most listened to podcast. Well, when I was hosting a radio show, I would have had to wait till whenever my show was two days later.

I would have had, there's nothing I could have done. I just would have had to wait. Yet the business I'm in, I can immediately grow. It's my greatest advantage that everything I do is real time if I want it to be. Where forever, just in traditional radio, or traditional television, you have to wait for whenever your time slot is.

There is no time slot on the internet. I do whatever I want to do whenever I want to do it. Now, I choose, like, I can go out and party on Saturday night or I can work. I looked at Coward. Coward put out a video from the Volumes YouTube channel on the Aaron Rogers loss. I just checked before I went live. It had over 400,000 views. He went into the streaming internet world,

started the volume for a reason. It was a huge advantage, the power that he has, to go into that business. The world is changing. And he's taking advantage of it. It's why for a guy that has so much success, so much money, I'm always just so impressive. He's always just, he's so entrepreneurial

when he doesn't even need to be. And that sums it all up. Like, that's why he started the volume. Because that's where the world's going these next 10 years. years. Well, the Green Bay Packers' greatest advantage is they have, and I still believe this. I know Collins is more down on Rogers than me. He's one of the greatest quarterbacks I've ever seen. He's one of the greatest athletes I've ever seen. He is a master of his craft. But as we saw in Kansas City, and I've lived in Kansas City for four months in 2000, my senior year

in college, I interned for the Chiefs in the fall of 07. That place is freezing cold. Yet that game in Kansas City, relative to the game in Lambeau, one game looked like Newport Beach, the other game looked like the Frozen Tundra. And Aaron Rogers' greatest skill being able to throw the ball all over the yard is completely

neutralized in home playoff games. Because it's so cold. You are not going to be able to throw the ball for 350 yards. And same thing with Farrf. You are not going to be able to sling the pill when it's negative 5 degrees. So their greatest

disadvantage is completely neutralized in the most important time of the year. They work all season long. They win all these games. They get the number one seed back to back years. Then they play in these freezing cold games. And their best player, their best advantage, can't take over. Now, we could argue he's not aggressive enough. The play calling's not as good.

But fact is a fact. I remember years ago when Kaepernick went in there and beat him with the 49ers. A huge reason the Niners won that game is not because Kaepernick was throwing the ball, it's because he was running the ball all over the place. Because it's, who's catching the ball in negative three degrees? George Kittle, one of the best players in the NFL, dropped a ball that you would see in peewees. George Kittle played at Iowa. He's used to playing in the freezing cold.

I don't give a shit where you're from. I can't imagine how difficult it is to catch a ball in that situation. It has to be, I mean, I wouldn't, that's really, really tough. So it shows you the Packers, their success, that place is so cold that when they get in these situations that's to me their best team of the last decade

their greatest advantage is neutralized and now they're going to a situation where the drama I texted a couple people this today is it as easily I don't even think it's close going to be the biggest story of the offseason

these next two months off the field Aaron Roger's situation is he going to quit is he going to retire is he going to try to go host Jeopardy? Is he going to demand a trade? Is he going to sign an extension? It's going to be the number one story. He's won multiple MVP's. You have a guy that wins multiple MVPs. You're a six-point

favored and you lose to a team where their quarterback is Jimmy Garapolo. It's an awful loss all the way around. It is a, it's a devastating loss. Aaron Rogers has lost to the 49ers four times in the last 11 years. Actually, yeah, 11 years. Now, 10 years because I guess it would have been 2012, the Niners beat them. They didn't play them Harbaugh's first year. Think about that. There are a lot of memes going around in my circles of, you know, Aaron Rogers claims, you know, the Niners were always going to pay and that's true. They got four playoff victories out of it. And it's hard to shake, man. It really is. And we'll, we'll dive into more Aaron Rogers as the weeks goes on. But, you know, you just, that fucking cold. They can't, they can't

dominated in the air. And in the game, you play a team like San Francisco, you're just, it's a coin flip game. It was 7-0 in the fourth quarter. Seven-nothing. That's, that's, I guess it might have been 7-3 in the, I guess they might have scored a field goal in the third quarter. Maybe it was seven-three. But that's, that's a loss that you, you know, you could argue it's a worse loss than a great win, and it is a great win for the Niners. That's one of the worst losses in the history of the franchise for the Green Bay Packers. And they're one of the most storied franchises in the history of the world. Let's end on this, Joe Burrell.

I say it all the time because I don't think we talk about this enough with quarterbacks is an attribute that I, it's a must have for me. If I was running a team or I was going to root for a player, be a fan of a player, you have to be tough. And it's the one thing with quarterbacks, like you can kind of quantify it with linemen and even linebackers. how hard they hit or even D.Bs. Like, you watch Jalen Ramsey.

You're like, that's fucking guy's tough. That guy will just tackle. With quarterbacks, you know, it's a little harder to tell. Joe Burrow got absolutely destroyed in that game. Well, they have nine sacks. He was getting peppered. He was running for his life. Of course he was.

I mean, they have excellent pass rushers on Tennessee, and Burroughs O line stinks. Yet every single time he was destroyed, yep, right back up. Didn't look at the referees and bitch and moan and scream for a call like he's James Harden, he just hops back up, gets back in the huddle.

And I've seen now countless interviews with Joe Burrell. The way he carries himself, the way he just talks, I'm like, this guy is an absolute, this guy gets it. And I think that's an underrated

characteristics for humans. You know when you're around a guy and you're like, this guy just doesn't get it, man. This guy just won't shut up. We all have like friends, maybe boyfriends of our wives, you know, girlfriends or whatever. Just people that you're around, other men, you're like, I just can't stand this guy,

but you're forced him to hanging out with them. Could be family, whatever it is. To me, Joe Burrow is the guy like, is Joe coming? Is Joe going to be there? Like, you know, honey, like I don't really want to go to this party, but you're like, oh, Joe Burroughs going to be there? I'm there. And to me, Joe Burrow, like I said, with Mitch Morse, the way he described Mahomes and

Josh Allen, their best characteristic is they're just approachable. that's what Joe Burrell feels like. And in a sport where guys make so much money at that position, they become so famous. And ultimately, the team, the city, in Burroughs case, like, you could argue the state, the Browns are a big deal too, but like Joe Burroughs is going to be the biggest deal in the state of Ohio in terms of quarterbacks. That ain't a discussion. It feels like he handles himself, like a normal human being. I can't even imagine.

I can't relate to that at all, right? Most of us can't. The pressure in your mid-20s to have that many people, I don't care how much money you're getting paid. That many people relying on you. It's hard. I know it's in my 30s. It's like, you know, you start doing a business. Maybe you get married. You have a child. Like I see my brother, who's had my nephew's, you know, birthday. Pressure is no joke, man. But it's one thing to have pressure of like a wife and a kid or maybe a company of five people or a restaurant where you employ 10 people. It's another thing where you have. The entire city looking at you, the entire organization looking at you and handling it just like, oh, it's another Tuesday.

It's another Saturday. It's another Wednesday. You're just born with that, man. Maybe you can improve on that over life. But whatever he's got, Urban Meyer chose once upon a time, Dwayne Haskins over him. Think about that. Now you can tell me all you want about Dwayne Haskins' great season for Ohio State.

I saw Joe Burroughs' great season at LSU. One a natty. 15 and 0. We'll go down as arguably one of the greatest teams we've ever seen. I've said it before. I'll say it again. Like, he's just got it. That guy just has,

he's a special cat, man. And he made a franchise that was, wasn't just completely irrelevant. It was kind of worthless. Like, the NFL didn't only not need it. No one ever had to talk about it. And listen, I'm not trying to talk shit. Like, I don't care.

I enjoy watching Joe Burrow play, but he's not just made them relevant. He's made them watchable. It's one thing just like we talk about you. It's another thing like, oh, Joe Burroughs on? What channel is Joe Burrow on? Oh, Joe Burrow's playing? Joe Burrow games on? 10 a.m. Sunday, week four?

I'm going to check Joe Burrow out. How many people are going to want Joe Burrow on their fantasy team? How many little kids are going to buy Joe Burrow jerseys that live in Texas, that live in San Diego, they live in Seattle, Washington? That's power. This kid, I thought he was a good prospect. He is a, he's got a chance to be an all-timer, man. I mean, he's pretty special.

I know, listen, he beat the Titans and he beat the Raiders, but you're two coming off a year when his leg was shattered, he's in the AFC championship game? Man, that's, what a badass. What a weekend of football. If you hope everyone enjoyed it as much as me, because I did, I'll be honest, I'll be candid. You know, I keep it real here on the show.

I took a little nap during the first half of Tennessee Bengals, but the second half, the Niners Packer game, this morning's game, and then Bill's Chiefs, that's as much fun as I've had watching football on my couch as I've ever had. I feel that's as good as it gets. That was, that was football porn. all day, every day, except the first half of the Titans game. I was tired.

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