The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 and Out - Middlekauff's Weekend Mailbag: Amari Cut, Broncos Post-Rodgers QB Plan, Combine/Draft Q's, Tua Stock

Episode Date: March 6, 2022

John addresses the Cowboys cutting Amari Cooper, and answers listener questions in his weekend Mailbag, including how the Broncos should address their QB situation if Aaron Rodgers stays in Green Bay,... how the Chiefs and Bucs should attack the upcoming draft, if Tua can thrive under new HC Mike McDaniel,Subscribe NOW and follow Middlekauff and The Volume on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest content and updates and check out FanDuel for the best wagering and daily fantasy action! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:51 John Middlecock, Three and Out podcast, a little mailbag weekend edition. Recording this on a Friday morning. Obviously the breaking news this morning. I hit on a little bit on today's podcast. Well, it's out today
Starting point is 00:05:04 that I recorded on Thursday with Amari Cooper. And I mean, I think, you know, let's just break it down. I mean, they're stuck with Zieg's contract. So they need some wiggle room with money. Do they want to cut Amari Cooper? You know, does he leave you wishing there was a little more for sure? But he's pretty damn good. They're cutting him because of Zique.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Zek has $30 million in dead money if you cut him. So you can't cut him. And you obviously can't trade them. So they're stuck. But, you know, the Cowboys, man. Maybe they'll be able to trade him. I mean, he is a good player and a bunch of teams need the Colts, the Patriots, a lot of teams need weapons.
Starting point is 00:05:40 But yeah, what a, what a, what a crazy part about the NFL. You get drafted in the top five of the Kamari Cooper. You become really good for the Raiders. ACDC became a thing. Then you get traded for a first round pick and are good with the Cowboys. Sign a hundred billion dollar contract. And then a couple years later you're traded. It's the best part about the NFL.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Turn over, churning the roster, good players moving, but the star players don't really change teams in their prime. It's just, it's a healthy thing. It really is. And, you know, Cowboys, man. It's always something with them cow, how about them cowboys? At John Middlecoff is the Instagram. At John Middlecophis the Instagram.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Slide up into those direct messages and get your question answered here on the show. Okay. Hey, John. Listen to your weekend mailbag, and as a Broncos fan, I could not agree more. We would do anything to make the playoffs next year. How do you think Nathaniel Hackett will work with the Broncos if they don't get a new quarterback like Rogers, which it doesn't seem like they're going to get?
Starting point is 00:06:46 I know he has seen as a good offensive coach and will call his own plays, but I can't help but worry that is just his association with Rogers in Green Bay. Here's a reality. Nathaniel Hackett has been an offensive coordinator before. It failed. Brian Dayball was an offensive coordinator. before Buffalo. It failed. Most offensive coordinators are not, you know, Kyle Shanahan and can work with anybody. Johnny Mansell, Hoyer, Matt Ryan, make him an MVP, Matt Schaubb, right, Jimmy G. Most guys,
Starting point is 00:07:18 if they don't have a top 10 quarterback are viewed as average. And I think they have to get a legitimate starting quarterback or nothing's going to change. We can talk shit all we want about Vic Fangio's tenure. I don't think it was that bad. Their quarterback play was so terrible, and they were consistently competitive. Their quarterback play was god-awful. If I gave Nathaniel Hackett the same three years with the same team in the quarterback play, I think it's fair to say there'd be worse. Vic Fangio was much more experienced in the league.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Now, maybe he could be a little more innovative offensively, but then you'd say the defense would probably dip because that's usually how it goes. I just think they are going to be very, very dependent on getting a, just a functional quarterback, whether that's just Jimmy G. Because Aaron Rogers probably not moving. Russell Wilson, who knows. But they're not getting them. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:09 So it's, if you got to get Jimmy G. If you got to get Marcus Marriota, you just need a credible guy that just get your, you know, the train pointed on the tracks. But that's hard to do. It really is. Here's a Netflix doc. The Tinder swindler.
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Starting point is 00:09:02 To me, Tinder was the trenches. You know? I mean, Tinder, early on, it was actually, it was on the forefront. It was, you know, before Hinge, before Bumble. So it was pretty normal. But I'd say the last four or five years, it's, it's, uh, yeah. I mean, it's, it's not great. Show recommendations.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Got a lot of show recommendations. Euphoria. Watch the first season. Haven't seen the second one. Um, Lord of Flies, elements, but also luck, HBO. Great show from 2000. 111, 9 episodes, a look at the world of horse racing from the perspective of the owners, jockeys, traders, and rag-tag group of four degenerate gamblers.
Starting point is 00:09:41 This sounds right up my alley. Luck, HBO, I'll check that out. Great cast, Dustin Hoffman, Nick Nolte, Dennis. That is a good, that's an excellent recommendation. Luck. I probably need to write these down. Luck, HBO. My college roommate, Steve Maich.
Starting point is 00:10:00 well he's my roommate for I think a year and a half because he graduated in like two and a half a year smart he's been in Washington DC you know peddling real estate and all sorts of stuff married to a lawyer loved horse racing he had a he had a friend that he went to high school with whose dad was the CEO of MGM
Starting point is 00:10:20 when we were in college Terrence Lanny who I think has since passed away and his younger son they were really in the horse racing game I never really got that into it I'm still not really into it but I've never been to like a big time horse race. I would love to go to the track, right? Kentucky Derby, the Belmont, the Preakness,
Starting point is 00:10:38 obviously the one in Southern California. Whatever that. I can't even, I'm not thinking straight right now, but yeah, I mean, it's, I could see myself getting into it fast. I would love, I used to be a big Jim Rome guy, like when I was in high school and in college, and obviously he owned horses and he always made it sound really cool. It feels like you get attached.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Obviously, you've got to have some cash to get into the horse racing business. And even then, I've heard people talk about it. Like, you don't actually make that much money. It's more of a passion project. But you end up loving your horse like you would like a dog. You know, which I'm a big animal guy. I love just horses. I used to ride a little when I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Not like I didn't have a horse or anything. But I went on a couple trips with my dad. My dad was a big outdoors guy. We went on a couple horseback riding trips. And where'd we go? Not big sir, but a mammoth mountain. we went for like five days. I rode the shit out of that horse.
Starting point is 00:11:33 How about the Bearcats? Seven Combine invites. Wide receiver Pierce runs a 4-3 and Ritter top quarterback numbers come out of Nippert for a game. I've been a Nippert when I was at Fresno State. We went to Nipper Stadium when Brian Kelly was the coach. Tony Pike was the quarterback.
Starting point is 00:11:48 And we had a pretty epic game. That place was really cool. That was an awesome environment. The stadium is in the middle of campus. It's kind of like it's below. it's just it's kind of sunk it's it was sweet i really enjoyed it it's not shocking they have a bunch of people at the combine when boise state with chris peterson was winning 11 12 13 games going to the bcs they were doing the same like this is speaks to your program you're a big time program right now
Starting point is 00:12:15 producing NFL guys NFL star NFL corner you're going to have the first corner drafted this quarterback once he ran yesterday 449 and he starts getting compared to deck prescott like he's going in the top 45 picks. I just don't really like average arm guys, but his athleticism, his size, his character. If you start comparing him to Dak Prescott, listen, we can nitpicked all we want,
Starting point is 00:12:37 Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott is starting quarterback in the NFL. So Desmond Ritter, like you have a quarterback, you have wide receivers, you got running backs, you got defensive players. You know, Luke Fickle, you guys got a big time program. Be proud. Hey, John, love the pod.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Midwest guy from Ohio. Go Tigers. Cheese fans since 1985, like the mid-80s. What do you think of their draft last season? First round pick was traded
Starting point is 00:13:05 for Orlando Brown. Second round pick was Nick Bolton is a tackling machine. I like that guy. I know Andy and Veach. Love that guy. Creed Humphrey was graded as the best center in football.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Tray Smith was drafted 226 and played every snap at guard last season. I'm awfully excited about these guys. Andy and Veach know what they're doing. I mean, you are in very good hands. If you are a cheese fan,
Starting point is 00:13:30 I would enjoy the shit out of this next, you know, obviously the last four years and the next four years. It just doesn't get any better in this. You know, ask Patriot fans what, you know, those 20 years were like. Ask 49er fans with those 20, like you're going on a decade plus long run.
Starting point is 00:13:46 As long as Andy's at the helm, as long as Vech is the helm, as long as my home's there, you guys are going to be really good. I'm talking powerhouse. Now, part of being a person, power out, you have some devastating losses and losing sucks. Well, the 49ers with Bill Walsh had some devastating losses. Part of the reason Montana went 4 and 0 in the Super Bowl, they weren't
Starting point is 00:14:05 making the Super Bowl every year. They were getting knocked out in the second round and the third round. They had devastating loss of the Bears. They lost the Vikings one time. They lost a bad game to the Giants at home where Roger Craig fumbled. You know, part of sports, as great as the highs are, winning a championship or winning a championship game like the NFC or a FC championship game or having some devastating losses. You know, Brady didn't win every year. I would be very, very fired up. You're going to keep getting good young players.
Starting point is 00:14:34 There's a reason the Eagles won for a decade, right, with Coach Reed. They drafted well. They have good quarterback play. Their teams, they just, they build it in the trenches. You guys are in good hands, man. And I watch a lot of AFC West football and they're going nowhere. Longtime listener, first time questionnaire. I'm a Tampa, Tampa,
Starting point is 00:14:55 native and I heard you in Haberman talking about Florida sports. And I have to say you're dead on about the strip clubs per capita. I said Tampa is the most strip clubs per capita as any city in America. But a little off on no successful Florida teams. The lightning went back to back. True that. Anyways, my question is if you were Jason Light and you had to pick between resigning Chris Godwin or Carlton Davis, who would you pick and why? Chris Godwin, no questions asked. I can find corners. Wasn't Carlton Davis? Was that a second round pick?
Starting point is 00:15:27 I'm like, I'll just draft a guy in the second or third round to play corner. Like Chris Godwin is a high-end wide receiver. I'm paying Chris Godwin. Now he's coming off at ACL so it complicates it a little bit. But to me, it's a no-brainer. And I would expect, I saw Jason Light say that Chris Godwin has been a huge part of their team, obviously. The last several years, they want him back. I would expect him to stay.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I would say franchise tagging him is on the table. Love the show. Tom Brady has played in 10. Super Bowls. Have a great day. True. I think I said nine. Obviously the Patriots, he played nine, and then he won the one in Tampa. Good, you know, way to catch me. I can take criticism. I can take coaching. I make mistakes. Sometimes, you know, I don't edit the podcast. My guy Mike Holst does. And again, edit. I mean, just we don't like remove things I say, but just in terms of cutting down on the dead space and stuff. Sometimes if I just, if I have something bad,
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Starting point is 00:23:48 Love the pod. Question, could the Niners trade Jimmy G and a fifth round pick for a conditional pick next year? Is that allowed? And would that be enough to offset the shoulder surgery and current salary?
Starting point is 00:23:59 I would say, yeah. I would say the only way they would do that is if the conditional pick was like a second round pick. Because other than that, my take on the Jimmy G. Situation is you just take
Starting point is 00:24:10 what you can get and get that salary off so you can start unloading the clip on free agents. They need his $27 million with the salary cap space to buy players. Part of having a young quarterback is buying players around them. Look at what Belichick did last year. What the Chargers should do this year.
Starting point is 00:24:28 What Andy and Veach did when Mahomes first started. What the bills did with Josh Allen. You got to load up. And so to me it's less about the pick. I'm less worried about it. Jimmy G's, his value was well worth it. They got him for a second round pick. he was a starting quarterback for four playoff games.
Starting point is 00:24:46 If I get a fifth, then I can just move on and use that space, so be it. Sometimes, you know, you can't be greedy. And sometimes you just got to play it out. Like right now, I own this stock called Skills. It's a video game company. I am down about 85% of a decent chunk of change. Not quite six figures, but it's a lot of money. And I'm just riding that thing out.
Starting point is 00:25:11 I don't necessarily need the money, but every time I look at my e-trade account, I go, holy moly. The Niners could do that. There have been talked like, just write it out to the training camp. They're not in that mode. They need the money now.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Skills, keep screwing me. I own it at $9. This is almost at two. It's called a penny stock now. Jimmy, whether he's a penny stock or not, you have to unload that. You got to do it because you need the money. God, I hate skills so much right now.
Starting point is 00:25:41 but I'm in a long-term hold because I still believe the video game industry, all the kids, you know, it's where a lot of gambling is going to go on. I believe in it, even though the company is really struggling. They're like the Jacksonville Jags of companies right now.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Question for the mailbag. In your opinion, what would you do if you're the bucks? Where do you go from here with no Tom Brady? Also, great show on Amazon is Reacher. I just didn't like Reacher. I thought it was kind of cheesy.
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Starting point is 00:27:25 And also, I totally love your show. We don't need to read the compliments. You know, compliments are, you know, like poison. What's the statement? Everyone likes looking at them, but if you swallow them, they'll kill you. I don't know why you would like looking at poison. I think I'm screwing up that statement. Been a listener for years.
Starting point is 00:27:44 I'm a former college golfer. Now retail executive who lived in Scottsdale and still has a house there. I think you need to move there soon. I agree. Love what you were doing the main pot and your adjacent golf pod now. I also love your takes on life business. So this is just, again, again, you can't swallow these. They're like poison.
Starting point is 00:28:08 You know, you just got to look at them. I appreciate that. Thank you for the kind of words. I would move there. But every home I look at, you know, it's like $1.8 million. And then you look, you're like, this was $700,000 three years ago. Like, listen, I just, I'm not opposed to, you know, paying 80% premium, but it does feel a little outrageous in a city that, you know, had the biggest impact of the last recession, you know, was destroyed. Now, I think times are a little different. You know, people are like me, like in the
Starting point is 00:28:43 history of California, a guy like me would never leave California. I'm from here. Uh, I enjoy it here, but and I keep making, you know, I do business here, but it doesn't pencil anymore. I'm like, I'm not spending four million dollars for just some, I don't have it. And just I got to fucking tear it down. Like, I'm not doing it. But I also struggle at looking at some of the Scottsdale prices. is now I do think Scottsdale and I think Vegas is the same thing, at least on the West Coast, is going to be very equivalent to like Nashville and Austin. Like people are going to move there.
Starting point is 00:29:14 It's cheaper to live. So really like $1.5 million from some of these people living in these big cities that sold their house for $2.5 million, it's not that big a deal. But, you know, just, you know, recessions happen every 15 years and, you know, 10 to 15 years. And I want to make a good deal. Could be wrong. I don't know. I don't have all their right answers.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Hoping you take the golf pot off the three and outfeed soon, it's pissing me off and have to keep deleting it. Ha, ha, ha. It's going nowhere. I not only love the golf pod, we're going to double down. That thing's going to be a revenue cash cow. And it's a passion project. So it's a double whammy.
Starting point is 00:29:50 It ain't going anywhere. This podcast is just whatever I want to talk about. And luckily, it's a lot of football because there's nothing like the National Football League. But the PGA tour, like let's face it. The NBA is diminishing greatly. The ratings in the tank. baseball doesn't even exist. I think the room for growth in golf.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Now again, I'm biased on this one, but I saw it over COVID. And it's really happened since the Tiger Woods generation. It's not an, when I was a kid, it was elite of sport, country clubs. It no longer is. I ran into people over the last couple years joining country clubs that were like,
Starting point is 00:30:26 you know, I was as a public golfer and it made more sense for me to join the country club. Most country clubs are not Augusta. A lot of these country clubs aren't that expensive to join. You know, I mean, obviously there are MPCC or Augusta or, you know, L.A. Country Club. Those are the minorities. Most country clubs, you know, cost five grand to join. I'll pay some dues and you get to play golf whenever you want. Like that's, I grew up around one. El Miserro. Cost like five grand to join. But everyone's like, oh, you're just a country club guy. Well, yeah, it's fucking not that expensive. You pay for fucking gym memberships and all these other stuff. Same thing. Obviously, there are certain country clubs that, you know, costs hundreds of thousands of dollars. Like, We need to separate, right? There's like, you know, the Green Day Packers, the Cowboys and the 49ers, and then there's like the Jags. And there's like the Houston, Texas.
Starting point is 00:31:13 They're all NFL teams, but some generate a little bit more rev than others, right? Some, you know, have a little more impact than others. But goddamn, I love golf. I really do. I told Kevin Clark at Collins Party at the volume, I had a few pops. I'm like, I might like golf more than football. Now, I value football and I love talking with football guys and I have so many friends in the NFL. I love the business.
Starting point is 00:31:39 I love talking about the business. I love watching football. But I haven't played football since high school. Like, I can still play golf. And when my game's on, I'm not bad. You know, I'm a single digit, you know, four handicapped. Right now on paper, I'm probably more like a six or seven. But I don't play football.
Starting point is 00:31:55 You know, I get to play golf. So you watch a golf tournament. Like, I can go play. I just played when I went to the Niners game the course they're going to play for the U.S. Open in a year. I'm not going to play a you know, tag, you know, a game of two-hand touch at Lambo. It's just a different
Starting point is 00:32:12 relationship. And I love gambling on it. I like gambling on football too, but it's just, it's a different gambling relationship. You got to bet more on football to win. As a Dolphins fan, I'm quietly optimistic about McDaniels coming in. Think this could be a home run for Tua. I think Tua has been good when you consider his win percentage while playing behind one of the worst old lines in football.
Starting point is 00:32:36 I think the narrative around Tua, unfortunately, has never had a chance to grow in a positive way do the momentum being halted by injury. How do you think he can change the mainstream media narrative that he isn't the guy? I think even he does well this year, the system and not the player. If he does well this year, the narrative doesn't matter. The narrative doesn't matter when you're having success. The narrative only matters when you're failing because a narrative is usually true. Like the narrative, Russell Westbrook is very overrated. Like, that's a fact now.
Starting point is 00:33:09 That didn't matter when he was with Kevin Durant and they were competing to go to the NBA finals. You could say he was overrated or not, they were winning and they were kicking ass. The moment you remove him and he starts bouncing around all these teams, like, it's no longer a narrative. It's a fact. Right? I think we watched Tua and there are some facts.
Starting point is 00:33:24 He's small. He doesn't have a great arm. Now, there are also things that go on, like you said, their old line's terrible. They've coaching turnover on offense has been weird. There have been a lot of Deshawn Watson rumors for sure. But if he's good under McDaniel, the only narrative will be you can compete with this guy,
Starting point is 00:33:44 which is all that matters in football. Like any narrative around Jimmy Garoppolo, who, you know, I'd put, you know, best case scenario in like the Tua camp, the Niners won four playoff games with him. Four fucking playoff games. Say that out loud. Four playoff games with him is the starting.
Starting point is 00:34:00 quarterback. You know, obviously it's a team game, but the Cowboys can't win a playoff game with Dak Prescott to save their life. So it just can you compete at the highest level with him playing quarterback if you build up the team around them? Most guys are not Aaron Rogers, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Brady. And even Brady, right, has benefited from going to Tampa with a loaded roster. Do you think baseball will ever be able to compete with the NBA and NHL for TV ratings? Well, locally, I saw someone, I think Outkick had an article the other day. I saw my Twitter timeline that baseball in many of the major cities outrates the NBA. L.A. it does. In Chicago it does. In New York, it does.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Baseball in, you know, local markets in the major markets in America, dominates. The Bay Area where the Giants, when they're good, it does really well. The Warriors are just the highest rated NBA team. If you look at the NBA ratings this year, besides, I had the Golden State Warriors, people are not watching the NBA locally. They just are not. It has become a social media sport. And I'm not a hater of basketball. I grew up a diehard NBA.
Starting point is 00:35:07 I grew up on Michael Jordan. I loved the NBA. Loved the NBA. I think it's a terrible product right now. If you don't watch the top three or four teams and you just watch a random NBA game, it's a joke. The effort. And I hear guys, and listen, I actually met Bill Simmons at the volume party.
Starting point is 00:35:26 He talks about like there's never been more. talent in the league. And I'd probably say, yeah, that might be true. But it's ultimately a team game. This isn't golf or tennis. The teams are terrible. Why? Because all these guys are bouncing around. You watch the teams play, they're fucking awful. They're terrible. At least if you watch the Dodgers or the Yankees or the Cubs when they're like baseball, it's much easier to be a cohesive team because it's really more of an individual sport played in a team game. Basketball is much closer to football where chemistry matters, experience with each other matters. you know, intangible stuff matters.
Starting point is 00:35:59 And these guys bounce around left and right now, like it's speed dating on Tinder swindler, and it's just bad. So, you know, baseball, I think a lot of people are making too big a deal. Like baseball screwing up. No one even notices. When they start playing games, people will pay attention. Everyone on social media is like,
Starting point is 00:36:16 I'm never watching baseball again. Bullshit. It'll be on TV. You'll have it in the background. No, no one really cares. They're arguing over a lot of money. And I love, listen, I'm not picking aside on this one.
Starting point is 00:36:27 because I don't really care. And obviously you always benefit being the owner. Of course you do. But let's not act like I've seen so many players. Anyone listening to this that falls baseball closely, you have seen an overpaid player in your team. Let's not act like a lot of players don't get over. You get put on scholarship once you sign,
Starting point is 00:36:45 even if it's a $60 million contract. You send a $60 million contract and you're terrible immediately. I got to pay you every penny. We've seen how many guys, $150, $200 million deals that fail. So all these people, players, like some of them get screwed. Some of them get off. You know, some of them take advantage of the system. Say it's like a 50-50 split. I just, the overreaction to the baseball lockout is like,
Starting point is 00:37:08 give me a break. No one's even paying attention. I think the question is, can golf be the second biggest sport, you know, beside football, NFL and the in college football, which I lumped together. Obviously, the NFL is bigger in college football, but just football in general, one and two. I think it's in play. I mean, the Warriors played the Lakers a couple of weeks ago and the waste management did the same exact number. So we're coming. There's a reason I talk about it. If no one was watching, if 100,000 people watch golf, I would not do a podcast about it.
Starting point is 00:37:38 I'm basing it strictly on television numbers because I know I like it and I'm watching. If I see a lot of other people watching, I'm talking about it. Part of the reason a lot of people don't talk baseball nationally is because nationally we don't watch baseball. But like locally, the local radio stations, which are holding on for dear life in a lot of markets, do talk a lot of baseball in L.A., Chicago. San Francisco, New York, Philly, Boston. Because people watch.
Starting point is 00:38:02 You just talk about what people watch. It's really a pretty basic business. Do people watch? I'll talk about it. Because if you're watching, you want to think, you're thinking about it and you'll listen. Longtime listener, first time DMer. Love the show.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Do you have any information about what it takes to become a photographer in the NFL? I couldn't imagine a more exciting dream job than snapping picks during NFL games. You'd also get to be on the sideline, which is very, very hard to do. I have no clue. I couldn't even.
Starting point is 00:38:30 I would just Google it. You know the best part about life right now? People ask me questions like, how do I learn about football? YouTube? How can I gain knowledge to be a high school coach? YouTube? How can I figure out how to be this? YouTube? Google?
Starting point is 00:38:46 There's literally the two biggest search engines in the world. Really, Google owns YouTube. It's Google and YouTube. Let's go to those. Look it up. It's never been a better time to be. curious. We don't need to go to the library and do that stupid little system and figure out where to find stuff. You just go to the internet. And you can, you just, you got to, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:07 figure out what you need, what you don't need, and go from there. Love the internet. I have never, and I said this to someone the other day. I'm not proud to admit this. I don't read that much anymore. I never was a big reader, but I don't really read it all besides the occasional article, MMQB athletic article. But like, I haven't read a book in five years. but I've never gained more information. I listen to probably a book a week. Maybe not that strong because I listen to a lot of podcasts. Maybe a book every three, four weeks.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Probably a book a month. I watch a ton of just anything I have a question on. I just go to YouTube and watch it. There's so much fucking information that is so easy to access now, there was no excuse. Like in the 80s, in the 90s, in the 70s, like every smart guy I knew growing up.
Starting point is 00:39:53 The guy my dad worked for. It was brilliant. Big time farmer. The guy read like a, book a week. Just the guy was brilliant because he's never stopped reading. My dad was an intellectual guy. Read all the time.
Starting point is 00:40:04 It's the only place to gain your information in the 70s, 80s, 90s. Right? Now it's just boom. Hell, you gain knowledge watching some of these documentaries. I watched this Carl Eichon documentaries. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:40:16 God, you just can learn about people so easily. Even if you don't like reading. If you didn't like reading before or couldn't read, you were going to get lapped. I haven't read forever. I ain't getting lapped. You know, and I think a lot of people are like that. My generation, remember when the media, remember like Fox and all these media companies like,
Starting point is 00:40:33 you know, we're going to scale back on writing and everyone's like, oh my God, they're going to video. Yeah, because that's where the consumer consumes. Most people my age, and, you know, I'd say 45, 50 and under, you know, maybe that age they're still reading. But I'd say 40 and under, we're consuming audio and video. That's where we do 99% of our consumer. You go to my mom's house?
Starting point is 00:40:54 She's got like seven newspapers. It's like, mom. You read all these newspapers? Different world. Got to adapt. Adapt or die. Have a good weekend. Adios.
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